Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses/Certification/UK (Steven Roberts) (bod...@googlemail.com)

2011-10-27 Thread Haqking
The CompTIA Linux + is the same 2 exams as for LPIC and NCLA, the only
difference is if you take anyone of the last 2 you only get that cert,
if you opt for CompTIA you get the option to ask for the other 2 certs,
the exams are exactly the same for all 3.

CompTIA is partnered with LPI now
http://certification.comptia.org/getCertified/certifications/linux.aspx

Objectives and topics for each of the 2 exams here:

LX0-101

http://www.comptia.org/global/Libraries/DE-Docs/CompTIA_Linux_Powered_by_LPI_LX0_101.sflb.ashx

LX0-102

http://www.comptia.org/global/Libraries/DE-Docs/CompTIA_Linux_Powered_by_LPI_LX0_102.sflb.ashx

If you take and successfully pass both of the above exams you get
awarded CompTIA Linux +, Linux Professional Institute Certification
Level 1 and Novell Certified Linux Administrator.



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 HaqKing,
 
 Is the CompTIA Linux+ up to date? The practice questions list Xfree86 as a 
 package more suited to workstations than servers.
 
 Xfree86 hasn't had a release for almost 4 years where as X.org has had a 
 contribution 30mins ago
 
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 Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses/Certification/UK (Steven Roberts)
 
 FYI
 
 So you know, if you take the CompTIA Linux+ which is 2 exams (LX0-101
 LX0-102), during the admin part of the exam you can give permission for
 your information to be passed onto LPI and so by taking the CompTIA
 Linux+ you will also be awarded LPIC Level 1 as well as Novell Certified
 Linux Administrator, so you get 3 certifications for the price of one
 cert (2 exams)
 
 Kind Regards
 
 Haqking
 
 
 
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  On 26 October 2011 11:27, macammonius.grammati...@gmx.co.uk  wrote:
   Not sure the Sony A55 is supported by UFRaw:
 
   http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/Cameras.html
 
  If by A55 they mean Sony SLT-A55V, then it is supported by UFRaw,
  according to that page.
 
 Well spotted!  I missed that in my quick skim.
 
 Sarah  Is this the right camera?  If so, GIMP + UFRaw / gimp-ufraw 
 plugin is the way to go on a Linux system.
 
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  Sarah  Is this the right camera?  If so, GIMP + UFRaw / gimp-ufraw 
  plugin is the way to go on a Linux system.
  
 There are a few RAW converters available for Ubuntu and I would suggest
 that Photivo is well worth more than a look at.
 
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[ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses/Certification/UK (Steven Roberts)

2011-10-26 Thread Haqking
FYI

So you know, if you take the CompTIA Linux+ which is 2 exams (LX0-101
LX0-102), during the admin part of the exam you can give permission for
your information to be passed onto LPI and so by taking the CompTIA
Linux+ you will also be awarded LPIC Level 1 as well as Novell Certified
Linux Administrator, so you get 3 certifications for the price of one
cert (2 exams)

Kind Regards

Haqking



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses/Certification/UK (Steven Roberts)

2011-10-26 Thread bodsda
HaqKing,

Is the CompTIA Linux+ up to date? The practice questions list Xfree86 as a 
package more suited to workstations than servers.

Xfree86 hasn't had a release for almost 4 years where as X.org has had a 
contribution 30mins ago

Bodsda 
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Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses/Certification/UK (Steven Roberts)

FYI

So you know, if you take the CompTIA Linux+ which is 2 exams (LX0-101
LX0-102), during the admin part of the exam you can give permission for
your information to be passed onto LPI and so by taking the CompTIA
Linux+ you will also be awarded LPIC Level 1 as well as Novell Certified
Linux Administrator, so you get 3 certifications for the price of one
cert (2 exams)

Kind Regards

Haqking



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[ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses/Certification/UK

2011-10-25 Thread Steven Roberts
Has anybody got info on Linux courses running in the UK? If so, could they
share it, please?

I'm currently going through the University websites and searching for Linux
courses.

My base is South Wales. UWCN (University of Wales, Newport) is the closest
Uni to myself.

What I want is to become Linux Certified - initially the LPIC-1 is the
certification I need by the look of it.

There is an Open University beginner's course. This might be a good start to
getting qualified but the next enrolment is Oct 2010 according to the
webpage.

I'm looking at trying to find either distance learning, online learning,
flexible learning or plain old evening classes or whatever it takes.

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses/Certification/UK

2011-10-25 Thread MS

On 25/10/11 13:10, Steven Roberts wrote:

Has anybody got info on Linux courses running in the UK? If so, could they
share it, please?

I'm currently going through the University websites and searching for Linux
courses.

My base is South Wales. UWCN (University of Wales, Newport) is the closest
Uni to myself.

What I want is to become Linux Certified - initially the LPIC-1 is the
certification I need by the look of it.

There is an Open University beginner's course. This might be a good start to
getting qualified but the next enrolment is Oct 2010 according to the



http://www3.open.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/course/t155.htm
Says May 2012 for the next beginners' course  . . . . . ?



webpage.

I'm looking at trying to find either distance learning, online learning,
flexible learning or plain old evening classes or whatever it takes.

Cheers,

Steve R.





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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses/Certification/UK

2011-10-25 Thread john beddard
On 25/10/11 13:35, MS wrote:Hello Steve,

I would recommend the Ubuntu Professional Course available from Ubuntu's
own Training Team. Its half the price of the O.U Course and is
extensive, with something like 16 modules. Its an ideal preparation for
the more extensive Ubuntu Server Course. Although it requires the
discipline of self-study.

My own motivation for the doing this is to build an openstreet map
server, with openstreet map being built on the Ubuntu Server.

Hope this helps,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses/Certification/UK

2011-10-25 Thread Barry Titterton
On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 16:47 +0100, john beddard wrote:
 On 25/10/11 13:35, MS wrote:Hello Steve,
 
 I would recommend the Ubuntu Professional Course available from Ubuntu's
 own Training Team. Its half the price of the O.U Course and is
 extensive, with something like 16 modules. Its an ideal preparation for
 the more extensive Ubuntu Server Course. Although it requires the
 discipline of self-study.
 
 My own motivation for the doing this is to build an openstreet map
 server, with openstreet map being built on the Ubuntu Server.
 
 Hope this helps,
  John
 

John,

What competence level does the Ubuntu Professional Course start at?

Barry T


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses/Certification/UK

2011-10-25 Thread john beddard
On 25/10/11 19:26, Barry Titterton wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 16:47 +0100, john beddard wrote:
 On 25/10/11 13:35, MS wrote:Hello Steve,

 I would recommend the Ubuntu Professional Course available from Ubuntu's
 own Training Team. Its half the price of the O.U Course and is
 extensive, with something like 16 modules. Its an ideal preparation for
 the more extensive Ubuntu Server Course. Although it requires the
 discipline of self-study.

 My own motivation for the doing this is to build an openstreet map
 server, with openstreet map being built on the Ubuntu Server.

 Hope this helps,
  John

 John,

 What competence level does the Ubuntu Professional Course start at?

 Barry T


Hi Barry,

I would say that it's a good introductory course to using the command
line within different structured areas of Ubuntu :
https://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=533 Any
experience using command line is useful. It is aimed at Sys Admins.
After a while the knowledge needed is extensive, so is the knowledge
gained : there is no end to the learning process.

With a background in networks, I wanted a structured course in order to
gain experience with Linux/Unix command line, which is extensive. This
course has really got me into Ubuntu. I found the book 'Ubuntu Linux' by
Chris Nergus and Francois Caen to be useful in broadening and sometimes
deepening the course.

The Ubuntu Prof Course has more command line than the Linux equivalent
LPIC-1 and is less explanatory. The two are now considered separate
qualifications. Although the Ubuntu Prof Course really needs to be done
in the context of providing the basis for the Server and Cloud Computing
Courses. Each module ends with a quiz and the course is just completed :
unless there is a surprise exam waiting for me ! The course is
self-paced with a maximum of one year to access the materials on-line.

One surprising aspect of the course was that i was also able to quickly 
understand the Windows file and command system. My hope is that the
Server and Cloud Courses come up to the professional level of Cisco
Certification Courses. It would be good to build learning groups around
the Ubuntu Prof Course.

Hope This Helps !

  John



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

2011-07-21 Thread bodsda
The OU also allow you to use tesco clubcard points to pay for some courses 
(this one included) 

The problem i found when looking for courses/certification is that most of it 
is almost always outdated or unrecognised. Comptia Linux+ for example has 
sample questions, one of which asked what the default X server for linux 
desktops is: the answer they give is Xfree86, which due to licensing issues was 
forked to X.org around 2004, so their material is about 7 years out of date.

The only certifications i personally would trust is the LPI qualifications. 
Having said that, LPI-1 can be passed by anyone with minimal linux admin 
experience, so you would need at least LPI-2 to prove your worth.

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On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 19:35 +0100, Dino T. wrote:
 Hi everyone. I was thinking of doing a Linux course but haven't got a
 clue on who to do it with. I live in Liverpool so any centre close
 that is credible and good?
 

The OU do a Linux course, the course code is T155 I believe... here a
link http://www3.open.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/course/t155.htm its not
cheap but then I think you get discount to take the CompTIA Linux+ exam
at the end of the course.

might be worth a look.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

2011-07-21 Thread Dino T.
Thanks to everyone who's answered. I'll do some more research with the
material you've given me.

*Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)*





On 21 July 2011 11:06, bod...@googlemail.com wrote:

 The OU also allow you to use tesco clubcard points to pay for some courses
 (this one included)

 The problem i found when looking for courses/certification is that most of
 it is almost always outdated or unrecognised. Comptia Linux+ for example has
 sample questions, one of which asked what the default X server for linux
 desktops is: the answer they give is Xfree86, which due to licensing issues
 was forked to X.org around 2004, so their material is about 7 years out of
 date.

 The only certifications i personally would trust is the LPI qualifications.
 Having said that, LPI-1 can be passed by anyone with minimal linux admin
 experience, so you would need at least LPI-2 to prove your worth.

 Bodsda
 Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

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 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

 On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 19:35 +0100, Dino T. wrote:
  Hi everyone. I was thinking of doing a Linux course but haven't got a
  clue on who to do it with. I live in Liverpool so any centre close
  that is credible and good?
 

 The OU do a Linux course, the course code is T155 I believe... here a
 link http://www3.open.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/course/t155.htm its not
 cheap but then I think you get discount to take the CompTIA Linux+ exam
 at the end of the course.

 might be worth a look.

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[ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

2011-07-20 Thread Dino T.
Hi everyone. I was thinking of doing a Linux course but haven't got a clue
on who to do it with. I live in Liverpool so any centre close that is
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

2011-07-20 Thread Avi
Dino T. wrote:

 Hi everyone. I was thinking of doing a Linux course but haven't got a
 clue on who to do it with. I live in Liverpool so any centre close
 that is credible and good?

What do you want to get out of it? Is this for your CV or as a genuine
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

2011-07-20 Thread Kris Douglas
I would also be interested in learning a little more about doing courses in
Linux in the UK.

I followed some links to do with the LPI but it was a bit confusing as to
what exactly is the definite one to do. The Ubuntu website shows there are
courses but the literature isn't the best.

On 20 July 2011 19:35, Dino T. dinot1...@gmail.com wrote:

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

2011-07-20 Thread Dino T.
Exactly, it's not the easiest thing to understand.

*Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)*

http://www.liverlinux.co.uk



On 20 July 2011 19:39, Kris Douglas krisdoug...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would also be interested in learning a little more about doing courses in
 Linux in the UK.

 I followed some links to do with the LPI but it was a bit confusing as to
 what exactly is the definite one to do. The Ubuntu website shows there are
 courses but the literature isn't the best.

 On 20 July 2011 19:35, Dino T. dinot1...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi everyone. I was thinking of doing a Linux course but haven't got a
 clue on who to do it with. I live in Liverpool so any centre close that is
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

2011-07-20 Thread Dino T.
It would be both, for my CV and learning experience. I dont want to be
investing time and money however on a course where it'd be worthless as a
qualification.

I want to focus on desktop technical support and system maintenance.

*Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)*



On 20 July 2011 19:38, Avi li...@avi.co wrote:

 Dino T. wrote:

  Hi everyone. I was thinking of doing a Linux course but haven't got a
  clue on who to do it with. I live in Liverpool so any centre close
  that is credible and good?

 What do you want to get out of it? Is this for your CV or as a genuine
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

2011-07-20 Thread Simon Redmond
On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 19:35 +0100, Dino T. wrote:
 Hi everyone. I was thinking of doing a Linux course but haven't got a
 clue on who to do it with. I live in Liverpool so any centre close
 that is credible and good?
 

The OU do a Linux course, the course code is T155 I believe... here a
link http://www3.open.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/course/t155.htm its not
cheap but then I think you get discount to take the CompTIA Linux+ exam
at the end of the course.

might be worth a look.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

2011-07-20 Thread Bill Cumming
I'd love to find any course up here in scotland, got an ILA voucher (£200)
heading my way for training.

On Jul 20, 2011 7:48 PM, Dino T. d...@dinot.co.uk wrote:

 It would be both, for my CV and learning experience. I dont want to be
investing time and money however on a course where it'd be worthless as a
qualification.

 I want to focus on desktop technical support and system maintenance.

 Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)




 On 20 July 2011 19:38, Avi li...@avi.co wrote:

 Dino T. wrote:

  Hi everyone. I was thinking of doing a Linux course but haven't got a
  clue on who to do it with. I live in Liverpool so any centre close
  that is credible and good?

 What do you want to get out of it? Is this for your CV or as a genuine
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

2011-07-20 Thread Alan Lord (News)

On 20/07/11 19:35, Dino T. wrote:

Hi everyone. I was thinking of doing a Linux course but haven't got a
clue on who to do it with. I live in Liverpool so any centre close that
is credible and good?



Try doing Linux From Scratch (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/) a few 
times manually - you will probably learn more than many courses will 
teach you and you won't be as tied a particular distro as might be the 
case if you did a RHEL or Ubuntu course for example.


(Interestingly Google threw up several ads to linux courses on the right 
hand side of their homepage - LFS is an educational project so that 
makes sense).


I'm sure there are good courses available but there is also a *huge* 
amount of educational and teach-yourself material available for free 
on-line.


Another good place to start?

TDLP http://tldp.org/


HTH

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

2011-07-20 Thread Avi
Dino T. wrote:

 It would be both, for my CV and learning experience. I dont want to be
 investing time and money however on a course where it'd be worthless
 as a qualification.

I think you're going to hit an oft-encountered problem, in that there's
little intersection between the two.

LPI appears to be the 'standard' Linux qualification but it doesn't
require much real-world knowledge to pass. As is the nature of exams,
it's relatively easy to treat it as a brain-dump, rather than a test
of understanding. I gather Linux+ (the other main qualification) isn't
a lot different. Even being the standard qualification, it's not really
held in very high regard by the sorts of people you're looking to
manage you, but might be by the people doing the hiring - recruitment,
personell departments and agencies love initialisms.


The usual source for getting 'real' training is to hire a consultant,
really. UKUUG used to occasionally send me details of such courses,
where they'd hired a consultant and were selling tickets, but they've
stopped doing so since I stopped giving them money. 

The problem you're going to see is that for a lot of employers the
first measure of how good someone is is their experience. Linux being
both sorts of free, and community driven, means it's not hard to gain
experience without it necessarily being *paid* experience, you just
need to rent a server, stick a web page on it and not get hacked :)


If I were in your position, I'd look at doing a course that does some
proper training in Linux with a view to an LPI, and then getting an LPI
at the end of it. If you're looking for Linuxy admin work, though,
nobody is likely to hire you unless you're already running a server
of some sort.


The above is almost entirely based on me asking the same questinons
about a year ago, but then somebody gave me a job before I had a chance
to put any of it into practice :) Some of it might be different now.

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