Re: [ubuntu-uk] Low power 2-drive NAS box that can run Ubuntu?
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:04, Andrew Oakley andrew.oak...@hesa.ac.ukwrote: I'm looking for a low power NAS box that supports: * Two SATA hard drives up to 2TB each in RAID1 mirroring * Runs Ubuntu Server or can be flashed/reinstalled to run a variant of Ubuntu (or failing that, Debian) - in particular, must be able to run cron/at jobs, must be able to do overnight large file transfers and torrents * Is low power (I already have an miditower Linux server... it uses too much power and does too little to warrant 24/7 ATX PSU power consumption) * Is silent or near-silent (may be situated in spare bedroom that is frequently occupied) * Can operate in a dusty environment (may be situated in loft with dust and occasional spiders) * Ideally has E-SATA and USB2 ports for occasionally connecting external drives * Ideally budget of £50-£100 (without drives, I already have the 2 drives) but up to £150 if outstanding The Netgear ReadyNAS series runs some derivative of Debian internally and works well with both Windows, Ubuntu and PS3 boxes in our house. SSH and root access available for the advanced tinkerer but the default settings allow more than enough tweaking without voiding warranty. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001O35S7M/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Low power 2-drive NAS box that can run Ubuntu?
Another one drawn to my attention is the ReadyNAS' cheaper sibling, the Netgear Stora: http://www.netgear.co.uk/ms2110.php It already runs a custom Linux install, and there's a hacking community here which have managed to get vanilla Debian running on it: http://hardwarehackersunite.com 55 quid on Amazon: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Netgear-Network-Attached-Storage-Included/dp/B003RFNHU0 ...so this is probably going to be the one for me. Andrew Oakley Head of Software Development Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211460 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.uk http://www.hesa.ac.uk/ From: ander...@gmail.com [mailto:ander...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Anders Jacobsen Sent: 07 September 2010 16:08 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Cc: Andrew Oakley Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Low power 2-drive NAS box that can run Ubuntu? On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:04, Andrew Oakley andrew.oak...@hesa.ac.uk wrote: I'm looking for a low power NAS box that supports: * Two SATA hard drives up to 2TB each in RAID1 mirroring * Runs Ubuntu Server or can be flashed/reinstalled to run a variant of Ubuntu (or failing that, Debian) - in particular, must be able to run cron/at jobs, must be able to do overnight large file transfers and torrents * Is low power (I already have an miditower Linux server... it uses too much power and does too little to warrant 24/7 ATX PSU power consumption) * Is silent or near-silent (may be situated in spare bedroom that is frequently occupied) * Can operate in a dusty environment (may be situated in loft with dust and occasional spiders) * Ideally has E-SATA and USB2 ports for occasionally connecting external drives * Ideally budget of £50-£100 (without drives, I already have the 2 drives) but up to £150 if outstanding The Netgear ReadyNAS series runs some derivative of Debian internally and works well with both Windows, Ubuntu and PS3 boxes in our house. SSH and root access available for the advanced tinkerer but the default settings allow more than enough tweaking without voiding warranty. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001O35S7M/ __ This incoming email was virus scanned for HESA by MessageLabs. __ _ Try our free UK HE Stats iPhone app - http://www.hesa.ac.uk/iapp1 No iPhone? Use our mobile website - http://m.hesa.ac.uk/ _ Higher Education Statistics Agency Ltd (HESA) is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England at 95 Promenade Cheltenham GL50 1HZ. Registered No. 2766993. The members are Universities UK and GuildHE. Registered Charity No. 1039709. Certified to ISO 9001 and ISO 27001. HESA Services Ltd (HSL) is a wholly owned subsidiary of HESA, registered in England at the same address. Registered No. 3109219. This email is private and confidential. If you have reason to believe that you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and remove it from your system. No employee or agent is authorised to conclude any agreement binding on HESA/HSL without express written confirmation by the Chief Executive or an employee of HESA/HSL with director in their title. _ This outgoing email was virus scanned for HESA by MessageLabs. _-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Low power 2-drive NAS box that can run Ubuntu?
I'm looking for a low power NAS box that supports: * Two SATA hard drives up to 2TB each in RAID1 mirroring * Runs Ubuntu Server or can be flashed/reinstalled to run a variant of Ubuntu (or failing that, Debian) - in particular, must be able to run cron/at jobs, must be able to do overnight large file transfers and torrents * Is low power (I already have an miditower Linux server... it uses too much power and does too little to warrant 24/7 ATX PSU power consumption) * Is silent or near-silent (may be situated in spare bedroom that is frequently occupied) * Can operate in a dusty environment (may be situated in loft with dust and occasional spiders) * Ideally has E-SATA and USB2 ports for occasionally connecting external drives * Ideally budget of £50-£100 (without drives, I already have the 2 drives) but up to £150 if outstanding Any suggestions gratefully received please, thanks all. Andrew Oakley Head of Software Development Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211460 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.uk http://www.hesa.ac.uk/ _ Try our free UK HE Stats iPhone app - http://www.hesa.ac.uk/iapp1 No iPhone? Use our mobile website - http://m.hesa.ac.uk/ _ Higher Education Statistics Agency Ltd (HESA) is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England at 95 Promenade Cheltenham GL50 1HZ. Registered No. 2766993. The members are Universities UK and GuildHE. Registered Charity No. 1039709. Certified to ISO 9001 and ISO 27001. HESA Services Ltd (HSL) is a wholly owned subsidiary of HESA, registered in England at the same address. Registered No. 3109219. This email is private and confidential. If you have reason to believe that you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and remove it from your system. No employee or agent is authorised to conclude any agreement binding on HESA/HSL without express written confirmation by the Chief Executive or an employee of HESA/HSL with director in their title. _ This outgoing email was virus scanned for HESA by MessageLabs. _-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Low power 2-drive NAS box that can run Ubuntu?
I think you'll have at least a bit of trouble doing this with current-ish kit, the big killer will be the silent requirement. I suspect, though, that putting together osmething like one of those Shuttle mini things with an Atom or C3 processor will do what you need. Alternatively, a netbook and a couple of external USB boxes for your drives. Also, finding an old-ish machine and underclocking the CPU might work-- I'm thinking centrino-era solos. Or why not put the drives in your mid-tower? If you're running it most of the time anyway. The best you'll get will be about 12-15w consumption, so maybe doing the math will see if it makes sense to just have a single box vs. the additional capital expense/carbon/energy/etc. of having a separate box. Best of luck, Glen On 02/09/2010 10:04, Andrew Oakley wrote: I'm looking for a low power NAS box that supports: * Two SATA hard drives up to 2TB each in RAID1 mirroring * Runs Ubuntu Server or can be flashed/reinstalled to run a variant of Ubuntu (or failing that, Debian) - in particular, must be able to run cron/at jobs, must be able to do overnight large file transfers and torrents * Is low power (I already have an miditower Linux server... it uses too much power and does too little to warrant 24/7 ATX PSU power consumption) * Is silent or near-silent (may be situated in spare bedroom that is frequently occupied) * Can operate in a dusty environment (may be situated in loft with dust and occasional spiders) * Ideally has E-SATA and USB2 ports for occasionally connecting external drives * Ideally budget of £50-£100 (without drives, I already have the 2 drives) but up to £150 if outstanding Any suggestions gratefully received please, thanks all. *Andrew Oakley Head of Software Development* Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211460 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.uk http://www.hesa.ac.uk/ _ Try our free UK HE Stats iPhone app - http://www.hesa.ac.uk/iapp1 No iPhone? Use our mobile website - http://m.hesa.ac.uk/ _ Higher Education Statistics Agency Ltd (HESA) is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England at 95 Promenade Cheltenham GL50 1HZ. Registered No. 2766993. The members are Universities UK and GuildHE. Registered Charity No. 1039709. Certified to ISO 9001 and ISO 27001. HESA Services Ltd (HSL) is a wholly owned subsidiary of HESA, registered in England at the same address. Registered No. 3109219. This email is private and confidential. If you have reason to believe that you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and remove it from your system. No employee or agent is authorised to conclude any agreement binding on HESA/HSL without express written confirmation by the Chief Executive or an employee of HESA/HSL with director in their title. _ This outgoing email was virus scanned for HESA by MessageLabs. _ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Low power 2-drive NAS box that can run Ubuntu?
Glen Mehn wrote: I suspect, though, that putting together osmething like one of those Shuttle mini things with an Atom or C3 processor will do what you need. Do these come with low-power PSUs? I was hoping for something like a beefed-up NSLU2, but which supports SATA. ( www.nslu2-linux.org ) Or why not put the drives in your mid-tower? If you're running it most of the time anyway. I currently have the drives in an ATX mini-tower, self-built job running 24/7 under Ubuntu Server with a Celeron 3500 and a micro ATX motherboard. Acts as a Samba file share, cron/at job scheduler, overnight file transfers etc. This has a 450w ATX PSU which I would estimate consumes around 70-120w when idle. My goal is consume less power and make less noise whilst maintaining functionality. This will then free up the mini-tower to become a desktop workstation, which will only be turned on when required, spending most of its life in standby or maybe even hibernate. Andrew Oakley Head of Software Development Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211460 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.uk -Original Message- From: Glen Mehn [mailto:glen.m...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Glen Mehn Sent: 02 September 2010 12:45 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Cc: Andrew Oakley Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Low power 2-drive NAS box that can run Ubuntu? I think you'll have at least a bit of trouble doing this with current-ish kit, the big killer will be the silent requirement. I suspect, though, that putting together osmething like one of those Shuttle mini things with an Atom or C3 processor will do what you need. Alternatively, a netbook and a couple of external USB boxes for your drives. Also, finding an old-ish machine and underclocking the CPU might work-- I'm thinking centrino-era solos. Or why not put the drives in your mid-tower? If you're running it most of the time anyway. The best you'll get will be about 12-15w consumption, so maybe doing the math will see if it makes sense to just have a single box vs. the additional capital expense/carbon/energy/etc. of having a separate box. Best of luck, Glen On 02/09/2010 10:04, Andrew Oakley wrote: I'm looking for a low power NAS box that supports: * Two SATA hard drives up to 2TB each in RAID1 mirroring * Runs Ubuntu Server or can be flashed/reinstalled to run a variant of Ubuntu (or failing that, Debian) - in particular, must be able to run cron/at jobs, must be able to do overnight large file transfers and torrents * Is low power (I already have an miditower Linux server... it uses too much power and does too little to warrant 24/7 ATX PSU power consumption) * Is silent or near-silent (may be situated in spare bedroom that is frequently occupied) * Can operate in a dusty environment (may be situated in loft with dust and occasional spiders) * Ideally has E-SATA and USB2 ports for occasionally connecting external drives * Ideally budget of £50-£100 (without drives, I already have the 2 drives) but up to £150 if outstanding Any suggestions gratefully received please, thanks all. *Andrew Oakley Head of Software Development* Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211460 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.uk http://www.hesa.ac.uk/ _ Try our free UK HE Stats iPhone app - http://www.hesa.ac.uk/iapp1 No iPhone? Use our mobile website - http://m.hesa.ac.uk/ _ Higher Education Statistics Agency Ltd (HESA) is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England at 95 Promenade Cheltenham GL50 1HZ. Registered No. 2766993. The members are Universities UK and GuildHE. Registered Charity No. 1039709. Certified to ISO 9001 and ISO 27001. HESA Services Ltd (HSL) is a wholly owned subsidiary of HESA, registered in England at the same address. Registered No. 3109219. This email is private and confidential. If you have reason to believe that you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and remove it from your system. No employee or agent is authorised to conclude any agreement binding on HESA/HSL without express written confirmation by the Chief Executive or an employee of HESA/HSL with director in their title. _ This outgoing email was virus scanned for HESA by MessageLabs. _ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Low power 2-drive NAS box that can run Ubuntu?
Hi, Andrew Oakley on Thu Sep 02 10:04:39 2010 did scribble :- I'm looking for a low power NAS box that supports: * Two SATA hard drives up to 2TB each in RAID1 mirroring * Runs Ubuntu Server or can be flashed/reinstalled to run a variant of Ubuntu (or failing that, Debian) - in particular, must be able to run cron/at jobs, must be able to do overnight large file transfers and torrents * Is low power (I already have an miditower Linux server... it uses too much power and does too little to warrant 24/7 ATX PSU power consumption) * Is silent or near-silent (may be situated in spare bedroom that is frequently occupied) * Can operate in a dusty environment (may be situated in loft with dust and occasional spiders) * Ideally has E-SATA and USB2 ports for occasionally connecting external drives * Ideally budget of £50-£100 (without drives, I already have the 2 drives) but up to £150 if outstanding Might blow the budget a bit but I've just ordered QNAP TS210 (£168 inc VAT Delivery from www.cclonline.com http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=41794. It's just been delivered and I'll be sorting it over the weekend. It has an external PSU and runs ~14W. Will take 2TB drives and provides loads of other stuff. The installed OS is Linux - don't know what flavour but I suppose it will be replaceable with Ubuntu. I bought it as recommended by a friendly Sun engineer who came to site yesterday :) Long story but I bought two 2TB drives to replace two ageing 330GB drives in my shuttle only to find the MB doesn't support SATA II so I ended up spending more wonga on a barebones box then discovered the TS210. My son's dead chuffed - he's getting the old shuttle :) I've currently got two 1TB drives hanging off a slug (NSLU2) running debian but it's very unreliable so I'm hoping this solution will work. I'll let you know what it's really like when I get it built. TTFN D ubuntu/uk-2010-09-02.txandrew.oak...@hesa.ac.uk ubuntu-uk ++ | Dave Restall, Computer Nerd, Cyclist, Radio Amateur G4FCU, Bodger | | Mob +44 (0) 7973 831245 Skype: dave.restall Radio: G4FCU | | email : d...@restall.net Web : Not Ready Yet :-( | ++ | If you would understand your own age, read the works of fiction produced | | in it. People in disguise speak freely. | ++ Any suggestions gratefully received please, thanks all. Andrew Oakley Head of Software Development Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211460 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.uk http://www.hesa.ac.uk/ _ Try our free UK HE Stats iPhone app - http://www.hesa.ac.uk/iapp1 No iPhone? Use our mobile website - http://m.hesa.ac.uk/ _ Higher Education Statistics Agency Ltd (HESA) is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England at 95 Promenade Cheltenham GL50 1HZ. Registered No. 2766993. The members are Universities UK and GuildHE. Registered Charity No. 1039709. Certified to ISO 9001 and ISO 27001. HESA Services Ltd (HSL) is a wholly owned subsidiary of HESA, registered in England at the same address. Registered No. 3109219. This email is private and confidential. If you have reason to believe that you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and remove it from your system. No employee or agent is authorised to conclude any agreement binding on HESA/HSL without express written confirmation by the Chief Executive or an employee of HESA/HSL with director in their title. _ This outgoing email was virus scanned for HESA by MessageLabs. _ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Low power 2-drive NAS box that can run Ubuntu?
David wrote: Might blow the budget a bit but I've just ordered QNAP TS210 (£168 inc VAT Delivery from www.cclonline.com http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=41794 Wow. That is *exactly* what I want... only 50-75 quid cheaper! I will do the standard IT action in these circumstances; wait until the price drops. ;-) The other route looks like shopping around for a low-power mini-ITX motherboard, mITX chassis and build from there. What I absolutely do not want is an ATX or mATX power supply slurping 100w and making fan/buzz noises. So maybe I can find an mITX motherboard which takes a 9v/12v power brick mains adaptor. Andrew Oakley Head of Software Development Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211460 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.uk -Original Message- From: David Restall - System Administrator [mailto:d...@restall.net] Sent: 02 September 2010 14:43 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com; Andrew Oakley Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Low power 2-drive NAS box that can run Ubuntu? Hi, Andrew Oakley on Thu Sep 02 10:04:39 2010 did scribble :- I'm looking for a low power NAS box that supports: * Two SATA hard drives up to 2TB each in RAID1 mirroring * Runs Ubuntu Server or can be flashed/reinstalled to run a variant of Ubuntu (or failing that, Debian) - in particular, must be able to run cron/at jobs, must be able to do overnight large file transfers and torrents * Is low power (I already have an miditower Linux server... it uses too much power and does too little to warrant 24/7 ATX PSU power consumption) * Is silent or near-silent (may be situated in spare bedroom that is frequently occupied) * Can operate in a dusty environment (may be situated in loft with dust and occasional spiders) * Ideally has E-SATA and USB2 ports for occasionally connecting external drives * Ideally budget of £50-£100 (without drives, I already have the 2 drives) but up to £150 if outstanding Might blow the budget a bit but I've just ordered QNAP TS210 (£168 inc VAT Delivery from www.cclonline.com http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=41794. It's just been delivered and I'll be sorting it over the weekend. It has an external PSU and runs ~14W. Will take 2TB drives and provides loads of other stuff. The installed OS is Linux - don't know what flavour but I suppose it will be replaceable with Ubuntu. I bought it as recommended by a friendly Sun engineer who came to site yesterday :) Long story but I bought two 2TB drives to replace two ageing 330GB drives in my shuttle only to find the MB doesn't support SATA II so I ended up spending more wonga on a barebones box then discovered the TS210. My son's dead chuffed - he's getting the old shuttle :) I've currently got two 1TB drives hanging off a slug (NSLU2) running debian but it's very unreliable so I'm hoping this solution will work. I'll let you know what it's really like when I get it built. TTFN D ubuntu/uk-2010-09-02.txandrew.oak...@hesa.ac.uk ubuntu-uk ++ | Dave Restall, Computer Nerd, Cyclist, Radio Amateur G4FCU, Bodger | | Mob +44 (0) 7973 831245 Skype: dave.restall Radio: G4FCU | | email : d...@restall.net Web : Not Ready Yet :-( | ++ | If you would understand your own age, read the works of fiction produced | | in it. People in disguise speak freely. | ++ Any suggestions gratefully received please, thanks all. Andrew Oakley Head of Software Development Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ T 01242 211460 F 01242 211122 W www.hesa.ac.uk http://www.hesa.ac.uk/ _ Try our free UK HE Stats iPhone app - http://www.hesa.ac.uk/iapp1 No iPhone? Use our mobile website - http://m.hesa.ac.uk/ _ Higher Education Statistics Agency Ltd (HESA) is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England at 95 Promenade Cheltenham GL50 1HZ. Registered No. 2766993. The members are Universities UK and GuildHE. Registered Charity No. 1039709. Certified to ISO 9001 and ISO 27001. HESA Services Ltd (HSL) is a wholly owned subsidiary of HESA, registered in England at the same address. Registered No. 3109219. This email is private and confidential. If you have reason to believe that you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and remove it from your system. No employee or agent is authorised to conclude any
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Low power 2-drive NAS box that can run Ubuntu?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/09/10 14:43, David Restall - System Administrator wrote: snip Might blow the budget a bit but I've just ordered QNAP TS210 (£168 inc VAT Delivery from www.cclonline.com http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=41794. It's just been delivered and I'll be sorting it over the weekend. It has an external PSU and runs ~14W. Will take 2TB drives and provides loads of other stuff. The installed OS is Linux - don't know what flavour but I suppose it will be replaceable with Ubuntu. snip I suspect getting ubuntu on to it may be a challenge, but debian is certainly possible, see: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwood/qnap/ts-219/ HTH Sam -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx/vBcACgkQ5OkJa9KnDaPXogCeMPtswjr0mkBkUWEOnxlWMB7b jfUAoKSUfEGHiOR4fU5BFXz3Eph37+za =1BvM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Low power 2-drive NAS box that can run Ubuntu?
On 02/09/10 15:16, Andrew Oakley wrote: The other route looks like shopping around for a low-power mini-ITX motherboard, mITX chassis and build from there. What I absolutely do not want is an ATX or mATX power supply slurping 100w and making fan/buzz noises. So maybe I can find an mITX motherboard which takes a 9v/12v power brick mains adaptor. Here's the story of what I built almost three years ago. A VIA C7 (which I now downclock!) in a small case. It draws 20W from the socket and It's been on virtually all the time since I built it. http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2007/09/08/untangle-asterisk-pbx-and-file-server-all-in-one/ Another option is to look at some the little Revo-type boxes... Al -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
