Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
songbird have a ppa on launchpad On 6 October 2010 14:52, pmgazz wrote: > > > On 06/10/10 13:58, Alan Pope wrote: > > > But if everyone just says "music player X is broken with large music > collections" and then _nobody_ files a bug about it, how will that > status quo ever change? > > Cheers, > Al. > > > > OK OK, I'll try to be less of a slob ;) > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On 06/10/10 13:58, Alan Pope wrote: But if everyone just says "music player X is broken with large music collections" and then _nobody_ files a bug about it, how will that status quo ever change? Cheers, Al. OK OK, I'll try to be less of a slob ;) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On 6 October 2010 13:51, David Houston wrote: > >> > songbird stopped linux support didn't they? >> >> Yup! > > http://getnightingale.com/ <-- Fork > That looks unpromising. A website and forum that has changed twice, no code, no releases. I'll set my expectations accordingly. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On 6 October 2010 13:54, pmgazz wrote: > Good point! But all the music browsers are a bit temperamental with big > collections But if everyone just says "music player X is broken with large music collections" and then _nobody_ files a bug about it, how will that status quo ever change? Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On 06/10/10 13:44, Alan Pope wrote: On 6 October 2010 13:43, Dan Attwood wrote: Still not in the repos though? songbird stopped linux support didn't they? Yup! http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/songbird-leaving-linux-behind Al. Whaaat? That's not nice :( Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On 06/10/10 13:14, Alan Pope wrote: Be nice to find out why banshee is crashing rather than just jump ship and use something else though. Al. Good point! But all the music browsers are a bit temperamental with big collections except gmusicbrowser - so if I can't get anything else to run properly, I fall back on it. It's an ugly critter though and doesn't do anything other than handle large collections well. Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
> > songbird stopped linux support didn't they? > > Yup! > http://getnightingale.com/ <-- Fork -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On 6 October 2010 13:43, Dan Attwood wrote: >>Still not in the repos though? > songbird stopped linux support didn't they? > Yup! http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/songbird-leaving-linux-behind Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
>Still not in the repos though? songbird stopped linux support didn't they? > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On 06/10/10 12:17, Jacob Mansfield wrote: songbird is great, took me a little while to sort out banshee's mess but it works briliently Still not in the repos though? Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On 6 October 2010 13:14, pmgazz wrote: > I have 97 GB of music, works fine for me - must be another reason why it's > crashing. You could try gmusicbrowser, I don't like its interface but it's > designed for big music collectoins. > Be nice to find out why banshee is crashing rather than just jump ship and use something else though. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On 05/10/10 16:26, Jacob Mansfield wrote: banshee crashes every 10 seconds, due to the fact that I have 103.7GB of music On 5 October 2010 14:28, pmgazz wrote: I have 97 GB of music, works fine for me - must be another reason why it's crashing. You could try gmusicbrowser, I don't like its interface but it's designed for big music collectoins. Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
songbird is great, took me a little while to sort out banshee's mess but it works briliently On 6 October 2010 11:19, Alan Pope wrote: > On 5 October 2010 16:48, Jacob Mansfield wrote: > > > > > > On 5 October 2010 14:28, pmgazz wrote: > >>> (Amarok is painfully slow, especially on GNOME and Exaile is also very > >>> slow and crashes a lot). > > > > There's your answer > > > > Whose answer? To what question? > > Al. > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On 5 October 2010 16:48, Jacob Mansfield wrote: > > > On 5 October 2010 14:28, pmgazz wrote: >>> (Amarok is painfully slow, especially on GNOME and Exaile is also very >>> slow and crashes a lot). > > There's your answer > Whose answer? To what question? Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
I'm reading from the file size according to ls after banshee duplicated most of my files On 5 October 2010 17:03, Simon Greenwood wrote: > Most music players just show the location of a music file as stored in a > database, not the music file itself. It shouldn't be the size of your > library, but could possibly its location or more likely locations. > > Simon > > On 5 Oct 2010 16:33, "Alan Pope" wrote: > > On 5 October 2010 16:26, Jacob Mansfield wrote: > > banshee crashes every 10 se... > What leads you to believe the volume of music files is responsible for > the crash? > > I have a similar volume of music and have never seen Banshee crash as a > result. > > Al. > > -- > > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.c... > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
Most music players just show the location of a music file as stored in a database, not the music file itself. It shouldn't be the size of your library, but could possibly its location or more likely locations. Simon On 5 Oct 2010 16:33, "Alan Pope" wrote: On 5 October 2010 16:26, Jacob Mansfield wrote: > banshee crashes every 10 se... What leads you to believe the volume of music files is responsible for the crash? I have a similar volume of music and have never seen Banshee crash as a result. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.c... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On 5 October 2010 14:28, pmgazz wrote: >> (Amarok is painfully slow, especially on GNOME and Exaile is also very slow and crashes a lot). There's your answer -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On 5 October 2010 16:45, Jacob Mansfield wrote: > before I loaded the majority of my music into it, it ran fine > Run it from a terminal and see what error you get? Perhaps there's a bug filed, if not, you could file one. Happy to help you file a bug if you're not familiar with it. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On 5 October 2010 16:32, Alan Pope wrote: > On 5 October 2010 16:26, Jacob Mansfield wrote: > > banshee crashes every 10 seconds, due to the fact that I have 103.7GB of > > music > > > > What leads you to believe the volume of music files is responsible for > the crash? > > I have a similar volume of music and have never seen Banshee crash as a > result. > > Al. > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > Same here, my music collection is 175-180GB and I can't remember it crashing ever, it took a long time for it to first catalog the files but since then it's been fine. Andy -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
before I loaded the majority of my music into it, it ran fine On 5 October 2010 16:32, Alan Pope wrote: > On 5 October 2010 16:26, Jacob Mansfield wrote: > > banshee crashes every 10 seconds, due to the fact that I have 103.7GB of > > music > > > > What leads you to believe the volume of music files is responsible for > the crash? > > I have a similar volume of music and have never seen Banshee crash as a > result. > > Al. > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
You can set amarok to just scan a whole folder tree. It automatically finds new files added there. Anton - Anton Piatek email: an...@piatek.co.uk blog/photos: http:// www.strangeparty.com pgp: [74B1FA37] (http:// www.strangeparty.com/anton.asc) No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. On 4 Oct 2010 21:27, "Jacob Mansfield" wrote: > can't find that in synaptic. AmorK can only import individual files, banshee > duplicated everything and crashes every ten seconds and rhythmbox lacks the > MP3 player features as well as crashing every few seconds > > On 4 October 2010 21:21, Anton Piatek wrote: > >> >> It might help if you said why the others failed you. I love amazon, and it >> should do most of your list (though I prefer to manage my library as files >> than let a tool do it for me) >> Anton >> - >> Anton Piatek >> email: an...@piatek.co.uk >> blog/photos: http:// www.strangeparty.com >> pgp: [74B1FA37] (http:// www.strangeparty.com/anton.asc) >> >> No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a >> significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. >> On 4 Oct 2010 21:04, "Jacob Mansfield" wrote: >> > could anybody recommend a good music player/manager, I've just spent 4 >> hours >> > clearing up after banshee, amorak and rhythmbox and I'm not happy. it has >> to >> > be able to consolidate my music library using move, NOT COPY. use 'smart >> > play-lists' get album art. manage the content on my mp3 player based on >> what >> > I haven't herd recently. oh and did I mention I have 105GB of MP3s which >> I >> > also want to convert into ogg vorbis. any ideas about this? >> >> -- >> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ >> >> -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On 5 October 2010 16:26, Jacob Mansfield wrote: > banshee crashes every 10 seconds, due to the fact that I have 103.7GB of > music > What leads you to believe the volume of music files is responsible for the crash? I have a similar volume of music and have never seen Banshee crash as a result. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
banshee crashes every 10 seconds, due to the fact that I have 103.7GB of music On 5 October 2010 14:28, pmgazz wrote: > > > On 05/10/10 12:33, Jacob Mansfield wrote: > > rythmbox keeps crashing, but I'll try songbird > > On 5 October 2010 09:39, George MacLeod > wrote: > > > > Strange that you've had problems with these players I have used all three > but have stuck with Rythmbox and Songbird. Rythmbox can play MP3 files, > makes a play list and also syncs with Ubuntu One. Both have album art > capability as well as many other features. > > -- > > I know, I use Banshee and although it crashes about once a month it's as > reliable as anything else and pretty fast (Amarok is painfully slow, > especially on GNOME and Exaile is also very slow and crashes a lot). I'm not > crazy about Rhythmbox but it works OK. I tried Songbird a couple of years > ago, it was fast but very buggy - if it's better now, I'll give it another > go. > > I used to use gmusicbrowser a couple of years ago because I have a huge > music library and everything else was hopelessly slow ( I set up Amarok with > a mysql back end once but it was still not great). But Banshee is pretty > nifty these days and since gmusicbrowser's interface is clunky and annoying > I've switched back to Banshee. > > Paula > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On 05/10/10 12:33, Jacob Mansfield wrote: rythmbox keeps crashing, but I'll try songbird On 5 October 2010 09:39, George MacLeod wrote: Strange that you've had problems with these players I have used all three but have stuck with Rythmbox and Songbird. Rythmbox can play MP3 files, makes a play list and also syncs with Ubuntu One. Both have album art capability as well as many other features. -- I know, I use Banshee and although it crashes about once a month it's as reliable as anything else and pretty fast (Amarok is painfully slow, especially on GNOME and Exaile is also very slow and crashes a lot). I'm not crazy about Rhythmbox but it works OK. I tried Songbird a couple of years ago, it was fast but very buggy - if it's better now, I'll give it another go. I used to use gmusicbrowser a couple of years ago because I have a huge music library and everything else was hopelessly slow ( I set up Amarok with a mysql back end once but it was still not great). But Banshee is pretty nifty these days and since gmusicbrowser's interface is clunky and annoying I've switched back to Banshee. Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
rythmbox keeps crashing, but I'll try songbird On 5 October 2010 09:39, George MacLeod wrote: > > On 4 October 2010 21:26, Jacob Mansfield wrote: > >> can't find that in synaptic. AmorK can only import individual files, >> banshee duplicated everything and crashes every ten seconds and rhythmbox >> lacks the MP3 player features as well as crashing every few seconds >> >> >> > Strange that you've had problems with these players I have used all three > but have stuck with Rythmbox and Songbird. Rythmbox can play MP3 files, > makes a play list and also syncs with Ubuntu One. Both have album art > capability as well as many other features. > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On 4 October 2010 21:26, Jacob Mansfield wrote: > can't find that in synaptic. AmorK can only import individual files, > banshee duplicated everything and crashes every ten seconds and rhythmbox > lacks the MP3 player features as well as crashing every few seconds > > > Strange that you've had problems with these players I have used all three but have stuck with Rythmbox and Songbird. Rythmbox can play MP3 files, makes a play list and also syncs with Ubuntu One. Both have album art capability as well as many other features. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
can't find that in synaptic. AmorK can only import individual files, banshee duplicated everything and crashes every ten seconds and rhythmbox lacks the MP3 player features as well as crashing every few seconds On 4 October 2010 21:21, Anton Piatek wrote: > > It might help if you said why the others failed you. I love amazon, and it > should do most of your list (though I prefer to manage my library as files > than let a tool do it for me) > Anton > - > Anton Piatek > email: an...@piatek.co.uk > blog/photos: http:// www.strangeparty.com > pgp: [74B1FA37] (http:// www.strangeparty.com/anton.asc) > > No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a > significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. > On 4 Oct 2010 21:04, "Jacob Mansfield" wrote: > > could anybody recommend a good music player/manager, I've just spent 4 > hours > > clearing up after banshee, amorak and rhythmbox and I'm not happy. it has > to > > be able to consolidate my music library using move, NOT COPY. use 'smart > > play-lists' get album art. manage the content on my mp3 player based on > what > > I haven't herd recently. oh and did I mention I have 105GB of MP3s which > I > > also want to convert into ogg vorbis. any ideas about this? > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
It might help if you said why the others failed you. I love amazon, and it should do most of your list (though I prefer to manage my library as files than let a tool do it for me) Anton - Anton Piatek email: an...@piatek.co.uk blog/photos: http:// www.strangeparty.com pgp: [74B1FA37] (http:// www.strangeparty.com/anton.asc) No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. On 4 Oct 2010 21:04, "Jacob Mansfield" wrote: > could anybody recommend a good music player/manager, I've just spent 4 hours > clearing up after banshee, amorak and rhythmbox and I'm not happy. it has to > be able to consolidate my music library using move, NOT COPY. use 'smart > play-lists' get album art. manage the content on my mp3 player based on what > I haven't herd recently. oh and did I mention I have 105GB of MP3s which I > also want to convert into ogg vorbis. any ideas about this? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
can't re-rip them, I never had the CDs in the first place. my boss sent me most of this stuff On 4 October 2010 21:12, Grant Sewell wrote: > On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 21:03:43 +0100 > Jacob Mansfield wrote: > > > could anybody recommend a good music player/manager, I've just spent > > 4 hours clearing up after banshee, amorak and rhythmbox and I'm not > > happy. it has to be able to consolidate my music library using move, > > NOT COPY. use 'smart play-lists' get album art. manage the content on > > my mp3 player based on what I haven't herd recently. oh and did I > > mention I have 105GB of MP3s which I also want to convert into ogg > > vorbis. any ideas about this? > > Regarding the converting of MP3s to OGG Vorbis audio files... don't. I > know keeping MP3s around kinda goes against the ethos and spirit of > FLOSS, but if you care about audio quality then you'll re-rip the audio > and store as either FLAC or OGG-Vorbis. Converting from one lossy > format to another lossy format is just a recipe for poor audio quality > files as an end result. > > Grant. > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 21:03:43 +0100 Jacob Mansfield wrote: > could anybody recommend a good music player/manager, I've just spent > 4 hours clearing up after banshee, amorak and rhythmbox and I'm not > happy. it has to be able to consolidate my music library using move, > NOT COPY. use 'smart play-lists' get album art. manage the content on > my mp3 player based on what I haven't herd recently. oh and did I > mention I have 105GB of MP3s which I also want to convert into ogg > vorbis. any ideas about this? Regarding the converting of MP3s to OGG Vorbis audio files... don't. I know keeping MP3s around kinda goes against the ethos and spirit of FLOSS, but if you care about audio quality then you'll re-rip the audio and store as either FLAC or OGG-Vorbis. Converting from one lossy format to another lossy format is just a recipe for poor audio quality files as an end result. Grant. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
could anybody recommend a good music player/manager, I've just spent 4 hours clearing up after banshee, amorak and rhythmbox and I'm not happy. it has to be able to consolidate my music library using move, NOT COPY. use 'smart play-lists' get album art. manage the content on my mp3 player based on what I haven't herd recently. oh and did I mention I have 105GB of MP3s which I also want to convert into ogg vorbis. any ideas about this? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
