Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem when powering off - suspend light flashing

2011-11-17 Thread Colin Law
On 16 November 2011 21:03, Barry Titterton
barry.titter...@mail.adsl4less.com wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-11-16 at 09:06 +, Colin Law wrote:
 On 15 November 2011 22:09, Steve Fisher xirco...@gmail.com wrote:
  Coming out of standby is a major issue on a lot of machines.  Usually a
  problem with the video drivers (but not always).  What video card do you
  have?  My machine will not come out of standby 90% of the time running 
  FGLRX
  radeon drivers, but does on the open source drivers, works as good as gold
  on the open source version.

 I think you have misunderstood the problem, it does not go into
 standby, nor am I asking it to.  I ask for a normal shutdown, which it
 does.  After shutting down the shutdown light flashes *as if* it were
 in standby, but it is not.  The problem is that something (possibly a
 hardware fault) is causing it to think it is in standby when it is
 not.

 Colin

 I had something similar with a desktop after I messed with the ACPI
 options. Has your installation/upgrade to 11.10 introduced some ACPI
 settings without your knowledge?

I don't think it is that, I have not knowingly changed anything.  As
an experiment I booted off a 10.10 live CD (and I did not see this
problem at all back then) and was able to see the problem on shutting
down the live CD session.

In fact I have discovered another symptom which I think confirms that
it must be hardware.  If I leave it disconnected from the mains for a
few hours and then plug it in it immediately enters the fault mode
with the standby light flashing and the power button non-functional.
I have to leave it plugged in for ten or fifteen minutes (presumably
something is warming up) and then if I power cycle it is ok.  I think
it has to be hardware, I suppose the first thing to do is to try and
find an old power supply and swap that over.

Colin

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem when powering off - suspend light flashing

2011-11-16 Thread Colin Law
On 15 November 2011 22:09, Steve Fisher xirco...@gmail.com wrote:
 Coming out of standby is a major issue on a lot of machines.  Usually a
 problem with the video drivers (but not always).  What video card do you
 have?  My machine will not come out of standby 90% of the time running FGLRX
 radeon drivers, but does on the open source drivers, works as good as gold
 on the open source version.

I think you have misunderstood the problem, it does not go into
standby, nor am I asking it to.  I ask for a normal shutdown, which it
does.  After shutting down the shutdown light flashes *as if* it were
in standby, but it is not.  The problem is that something (possibly a
hardware fault) is causing it to think it is in standby when it is
not.

Colin

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem when powering off - suspend light flashing

2011-11-16 Thread Barry Drake

On 16/11/11 09:06, Colin Law wrote:
I think you have misunderstood the problem, it does not go into 
standby, nor am I asking it to. I ask for a normal shutdown, which it 
does. After shutting down the shutdown light flashes *as if* it were 
in standby, but it is not. The problem is that something (possibly a 
hardware fault) is causing it to think it is in standby when it is 
not. Colin 


Curiously, I experienced the same problem exactly, just twice, on a 
Samsung N150 Netbook with 11.10.  The only way out was to unplug the 
battery for ten seconds.  Nothing else got any response.


Regards,Barry.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem when powering off - suspend light flashing

2011-11-16 Thread Jon Reynolds
On Wed, November 16, 2011 10:10, Barry Drake wrote:

 Curiously, I experienced the same problem exactly, just twice, on a
 Samsung N150 Netbook with 11.10.  The only way out was to unplug the
 battery for ten seconds.  Nothing else got any response.

 Regards,Barry.

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And curiously still, I have a Samsung N130 running 11,10 which recently,
when shut down, exhibits similar behaviour. It goes to the text screen,
where it says it is stopping services etc., but then hangsif I haven't
noticed, the battery eventually runs out. But I can force it to shut down
by holding the power button.

Maybe there is some funny bug in the shut down procedure?
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem when powering off - suspend light flashing

2011-11-16 Thread Andy Braben
On 16 November 2011 15:22, Jon Reynolds maill...@jcrdevelopments.comwrote:

 On Wed, November 16, 2011 10:10, Barry Drake wrote:
 
  Curiously, I experienced the same problem exactly, just twice, on a
  Samsung N150 Netbook with 11.10.  The only way out was to unplug the
  battery for ten seconds.  Nothing else got any response.
 
  Regards,Barry.
 
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 And curiously still, I have a Samsung N130 running 11,10 which recently,
 when shut down, exhibits similar behaviour. It goes to the text screen,
 where it says it is stopping services etc., but then hangsif I haven't
 noticed, the battery eventually runs out. But I can force it to shut down
 by holding the power button.

 Maybe there is some funny bug in the shut down procedure?
 --
 Thanks and regards,

 Jon Reynolds (j0nr)
 
 http://www.jcrdevelopments.com



Maybe it has nothing whatsoever to do with the shutdown procedure that is
causing the problem.

OK I have an Acer Revo which nobody is talking about, but these hang on
10.04 and 10.10 (and presumably later, but upgrades haven't had the problem
reoccurring).

This problem was caused by the wifi driver. The resolution was to add
blacklist rt2800pci to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf

I have no idea if that will solve your problem, but as with my issue, it
might not be a shutdown bug.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem when powering off - suspend light flashing

2011-11-16 Thread Tony Pursell
On 16 November 2011 15:22, Jon Reynolds maill...@jcrdevelopments.comwrote:


 On Wed, November 16, 2011 10:10, Barry Drake wrote:
 
  Curiously, I experienced the same problem exactly, just twice, on a
  Samsung N150 Netbook with 11.10.  The only way out was to unplug the
  battery for ten seconds.  Nothing else got any response.
 
  Regards,Barry.
 
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 And curiously still, I have a Samsung N130 running 11,10 which recently,
 when shut down, exhibits similar behaviour. It goes to the text screen,
 where it says it is stopping services etc., but then hangsif I haven't
 noticed, the battery eventually runs out. But I can force it to shut down
 by holding the power button.

 Maybe there is some funny bug in the shut down procedure?


I've had this problem a lot on my desktop PC - I hear the disk drive stop,
but I need to press and hold the on/off button to switch it off.  Sometimes
I get a full shutdown.  Of course, its not on battery power :)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem when powering off - suspend light flashing

2011-11-16 Thread Barry Titterton
On Wed, 2011-11-16 at 09:06 +, Colin Law wrote:
 On 15 November 2011 22:09, Steve Fisher xirco...@gmail.com wrote:
  Coming out of standby is a major issue on a lot of machines.  Usually a
  problem with the video drivers (but not always).  What video card do you
  have?  My machine will not come out of standby 90% of the time running FGLRX
  radeon drivers, but does on the open source drivers, works as good as gold
  on the open source version.
 
 I think you have misunderstood the problem, it does not go into
 standby, nor am I asking it to.  I ask for a normal shutdown, which it
 does.  After shutting down the shutdown light flashes *as if* it were
 in standby, but it is not.  The problem is that something (possibly a
 hardware fault) is causing it to think it is in standby when it is
 not.
 
 Colin
 
I had something similar with a desktop after I messed with the ACPI
options. Has your installation/upgrade to 11.10 introduced some ACPI
settings without your knowledge?

Barry T


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[ubuntu-uk] Problem when powering off - suspend light flashing

2011-11-15 Thread Colin Law
I have a problem that I am pretty sure is nothing to do with Ubuntu
but I hope somebody here may be able to help.  On one of my desktop
PCs (running Ubuntu 11.10), about 50% of the time when I shutdown it
does a normal power down but then the standby light flashes as if it
were in standby.  It is not actually in standby and does not respond
to pressing the power button.  To recover I have to pull the power
lead out for about 10 seconds and then it (usually) is ok after
plugging back in,  and will do a normal power up after pressing the
power button.

I assume it is a hardware problem, presumably either the mother board
or the power supply but I have not got a spare of either so I can't
try swapping them out.

Any thoughts anyone?

Colin

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem when powering off - suspend light flashing

2011-11-15 Thread Steve Fisher
Coming out of standby is a major issue on a lot of machines.  Usually a
problem with the video drivers (but not always).  What video card do you
have?  My machine will not come out of standby 90% of the time running
FGLRX radeon drivers, but does on the open source drivers, works as good as
gold on the open source version.

Cheers

Steve
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