Re: [ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle
Yep, and for those requests for old copies of Windows and Office I also politely tell them about Linux / Open Office respectively. Out of 6 attempts so far, no coversions to Linux, but 2 to Open Office smug smile. E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Harrison Sent: 01 August 2007 17:43 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle Hi all, The following just came in on our local Freecycle. (www.freecycle.org to find your local group.) === OFFER: Complete working PC Made almost entirely out of Freecycled parts: Midi-tower Pentium III 600Mhz with 192Mb RAM and a small but adequate hard disk, with (v. good but fairly large) Dell/Trinitron 17 CRT monitor graphics card, CD and DVD reader drives, keyboard mouse and speakers. Runs Windows XP fine, but currently has the latest release of Ubuntu Linux installed. Ideal to learn Linux on, or maybe as a homework PC for the kids. === I'm just flagging it up as I thought it was an ideal way to promote Ubuntu! If you have an old PC that you no longer need, why not install Ubuntu on it, and offer it up to your local Freecycle group? Kudos to Martin in East Grinstead who made the offer on Freecycle Crawley. Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle
Good idea, and tried it a little while ago with nil response. Spoke with a couple of people in the Freecycle cafe and of course the reason why they were not interested were those already covered by other postings ie why change, what is it etc etc E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 02 August 2007 00:19 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle alan c wrote: I would noty have many PCs to hand out. The freecycle one is almost average spec of one of my current usage! (I use more RAM)(and big HD) What about advertising on Freecycle- 'Ubuntu Linux CD - the good alternative to Windows - free install and advice' I was at a Computing for Profit meeting last week and Freecycle was mentioned (as one of the guys at the meeting is involved with the Saltash Freecycle list). IIRC one of the suggestions was to give away Ubuntu CDs on Freecycle. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle
On 8/2/07, Mark Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: alan c wrote: What about advertising on Freecycle- 'Ubuntu Linux CD - the good alternative to Windows - free install and advice' It would be totally AGAINST the charter of Freecycle just to do this, and likely cause a backlash. IAWTP. If you have Ubuntu disks going spare, I've generally found local libraries are a good distribution point. I put a dozen or so disks there every other week and they're generally gone the next time I visit. The librarian makes sure it's one per person :) Oh, hi by the way - just joined the list :) John -- John Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nelefa.org Dreamers come and go, but a dream's forever. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle
** Mark Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-08-02 10:30]: alan c wrote: What about advertising on Freecycle- 'Ubuntu Linux CD - the good alternative to Windows - free install and advice' It would be totally AGAINST the charter of Freecycle just to do this, and likely cause a backlash. The purpose of Freecycle is to stop stuff going to landfill... not to provide a platform where other groups can promote their own agendas. I would far rather than The Ubuntu Community approached The Global Freecycle Team and tried to put together a cross-promoted initiative to provide a service where we would put Ubuntu on old PCs and then Freecycle them... - local Ubuntu teams would be encouraged to contribute the installation time - local Freecycle groups would be encouraged to specifically get their members to contribute older PC kit There's a difference between working WITH another group, with their own mission, and trying to Hijack their services to promote our own. ** end quote [Mark Harrison] Whilst I'd agree that a concerted effort to use Freecycle as an advertising platform is something that should be avoided, I have seen people acting as individuals recommending somebody try Linux, OpenOffice, or etc. in response to requests for Windows and Office CDs. I've also seen, as per the orignal post, PCs offered running Linux. As to a joint effort between Ubuntu and Freecycle, I think you're crediting Freecycle with a bit more organisation than it actually has. From my experience different groups have slightly different policies, and even within a single group the policy differs from post to post at times. Getting all the various Freecycle groups working together as opposed to separate little 'empires' under a single umbrella isn't something I can see happening I'm afraid. As an example, I saw a post a few months back from somebody wanting a CD for Windows ME or newer because their AV vendor no longer supported their Windows 98 installation. They also, iirc, commented that they may need a better PC and/or some upgrade parts. I decided to reply to this with a list of alternative freely available AV products that would do the job for him, and potentially save his PC being scrapped (sadly suggesting Linux was not a practical option in this case). Thinking that the information would possibly save other machines from being scrapped I coppied the Freecycle list, but was told by the moderator that since it was not saving something from landfill it had been blocked. A matter of days later posts were let through for internet codes from Rice Crispies, discount voucher for Homebase and some 'go free' vouchers whatever they are - certainly not saving anything from landfill. -- Paul Tansom | Aptanet Ltd. | http://www.aptanet.com/ | 023 9238 0001 == Registered in England | Company No: 4905028 | Registered Office: Crawford House, Hambledon Road, Denmead, Waterlooville, Hants, PO7 6NU -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle
Mark Harrison wrote: alan c wrote: What about advertising on Freecycle- 'Ubuntu Linux CD - the good alternative to Windows - free install and advice' It would be totally AGAINST the charter of Freecycle just to do this, Ah! Ok understood. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle
On 8/2/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CDs for Library: Are these ones you have burned, and what packaging have you used, wit any instructions or commentary? Yeah, I burned a pile of copies of the Edgy Live CD and printed out a little quickstart guide I wrote, along with links to the various faq sections of the ubuntu forums. John -- John Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nelefa.org Dreamers come and go, but a dream's forever. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle
John Dow wrote: On 8/2/07, Mark Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: alan c wrote: What about advertising on Freecycle- 'Ubuntu Linux CD - the good alternative to Windows - free install and advice' It would be totally AGAINST the charter of Freecycle just to do this, and likely cause a backlash. IAWTP. If you have Ubuntu disks going spare, I've generally found local libraries are a good distribution point. I put a dozen or so disks there every other week and they're generally gone the next time I visit. The librarian makes sure it's one per person :) Oh, hi by the way - just joined the list :) Welcome! CDs for Library: Are these ones you have burned, and what packaging have you used, wit any instructions or commentary? My local and main library accept leaflets but even they have to be formally approved before acceptance. I would not expect they would accept CDs unless it was a very good day. I might try though. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle
On 8/1/07, Mark Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, The following just came in on our local Freecycle. (www.freecycle.org to find your local group.) snip Freecycle, another great idea which has fell fowl of greed and selfishness. Our local Freecycle groups suffer from car booters who pickup anything and everything to sell on for a profit and people asking for unreal items (any one got a Nintendo DS going spare?, I need a Glass TV stand for my 52 HDTV, wanted: car, must be a good runner). You may think i'm joking, but its all game on our lists... Currently one guy offers PCs up for Freecycle with Windows pre-installed, considering the guy picks up beige box, home built PCs I dont think he can verify a single license for any of these... I've dropped him a mail about installing Ubuntu instead but I got no reply. -- Andrew Williams w: http://nikdoof.net e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle
On 02/08/07, John Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/2/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CDs for Library: Are these ones you have burned, and what packaging have you used, wit any instructions or commentary? Yeah, I burned a pile of copies of the Edgy Live CD and printed out a little quickstart guide I wrote, along with links to the various faq sections of the ubuntu forums. John Any chance you could show your quick-start guide to the list? 'Cause there's been a lot of talk about leaflets lately. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle
On 8/2/07, Alec Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 02/08/07, John Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/2/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CDs for Library: Are these ones you have burned, and what packaging have you used, wit any instructions or commentary? Yeah, I burned a pile of copies of the Edgy Live CD and printed out a little quickstart guide I wrote, along with links to the various faq sections of the ubuntu forums. John Any chance you could show your quick-start guide to the list? 'Cause there's been a lot of talk about leaflets lately. Sure - I'll dig it out when I get home. It aint purty, though. John -- John Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nelefa.org Dreamers come and go, but a dream's forever. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle
Alec Wright wrote: On 02/08/07, John Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/2/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CDs for Library: Are these ones you have burned, and what packaging have you used, wit any instructions or commentary? Yeah, I burned a pile of copies of the Edgy Live CD and printed out a little quickstart guide I wrote, along with links to the various faq sections of the ubuntu forums. John Any chance you could show your quick-start guide to the list? 'Cause there's been a lot of talk about leaflets lately. I have recently typed up the actual text content of the shipit cd covers because the wording is both legally and otherwise fairly well thought out. I have begun to use it fairly successfully as a *simple* folded cover for a paper CD case. The folded cover is from a single A4 double sided printed sheet. I have only used mono printing so far but the graphic is colour and with a different printer one can get fairly close to the effect of a shipit pack, at a much reduced actual cost I suspect. The files are on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Leaflets and specifically are leaflet1b-SHIPIT-folded_alan_cocks leaflet1b-SHIPIT-folded-instructions_alan_cocks -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle
Hi all, The following just came in on our local Freecycle. (www.freecycle.org to find your local group.) === OFFER: Complete working PC Made almost entirely out of Freecycled parts: Midi-tower Pentium III 600Mhz with 192Mb RAM and a small but adequate hard disk, with (v. good but fairly large) Dell/Trinitron 17 CRT monitor graphics card, CD and DVD reader drives, keyboard mouse and speakers. Runs Windows XP fine, but currently has the latest release of Ubuntu Linux installed. Ideal to learn Linux on, or maybe as a homework PC for the kids. === I'm just flagging it up as I thought it was an ideal way to promote Ubuntu! If you have an old PC that you no longer need, why not install Ubuntu on it, and offer it up to your local Freecycle group? Kudos to Martin in East Grinstead who made the offer on Freecycle Crawley. Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle
If you have an old PC that you no longer need, why not install Ubuntu on it, and offer it up to your local Freecycle group? Kudos to Martin in East Grinstead who made the offer on Freecycle Crawley. Mark That's a really good idea Mark. At the end of the day, if someone gets given a PC with Ubuntu on, then they're more likely to use and stick with Ubuntu. It'd probably be a good idea to install using the alternate CD and the OEM install for manufacturers. That way it'll prompt the user for username, password etc etc when they first boot Ubuntu. Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle
Chris Rowson wrote: If you have an old PC that you no longer need, why not install Ubuntu on it, and offer it up to your local Freecycle group? Kudos to Martin in East Grinstead who made the offer on Freecycle Crawley. Mark That's a really good idea Mark. At the end of the day, if someone gets given a PC with Ubuntu on, then they're more likely to use and stick with Ubuntu. It'd probably be a good idea to install using the alternate CD and the OEM install for manufacturers. That way it'll prompt the user for username, password etc etc when they first boot Ubuntu. Cheers Chris I would noty have many PCs to hand out. The freecycle one is almost average spec of one of my current usage! (I use more RAM)(and big HD) What about advertising on Freecycle- 'Ubuntu Linux CD - the good alternative to Windows - free install and advice' -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle
alan c wrote: I would noty have many PCs to hand out. The freecycle one is almost average spec of one of my current usage! (I use more RAM)(and big HD) What about advertising on Freecycle- 'Ubuntu Linux CD - the good alternative to Windows - free install and advice' I was at a Computing for Profit meeting last week and Freecycle was mentioned (as one of the guys at the meeting is involved with the Saltash Freecycle list). IIRC one of the suggestions was to give away Ubuntu CDs on Freecycle. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
