Re: [ubuntu-uk] Trusty problem .....
On 15/03/14 16:02, Alan Bell wrote: I went through the same thing, lightdm stopped working last week some time, had to flip to gdm to fix it, but now I am back on lightdm and all is well (GDM was fine too, little bit prettier imho, but I like to run as standard as possible). Trusty looks like it is going to be a good one, a lot of the unity window manager bugs have been addressed, locally integrated menus are massively better than the global menu, alt-tab and alt-` and launcher mouse scroll wheel for window changing is generally not producing any of the surprising results it used to do. Hmmm ... interesting. I just tried switching back to lightdm after grabbing the latest updates. It's still broken on my system. I'll keep trying from time to time. I think Trusty is a big improvement in many ways. It also seems a whole lot faster than Saucy. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Trusty problem .....
I went through the same thing, lightdm stopped working last week some time, had to flip to gdm to fix it, but now I am back on lightdm and all is well (GDM was fine too, little bit prettier imho, but I like to run as standard as possible). Trusty looks like it is going to be a good one, a lot of the unity window manager bugs have been addressed, locally integrated menus are massively better than the global menu, alt-tab and alt-` and launcher mouse scroll wheel for window changing is generally not producing any of the surprising results it used to do. Alan. On 14/03/14 20:52, Barry Drake wrote: On 14/03/14 15:18, Peter Smout wrote: lightdm - this command should through you to the graphical login screen (may need to be run as root ) It may also be worth checking the logs in /var/log (cd into /var/log and use nano to view the files) I'd look in the xorg log first if it still exists :) Thanks all of you. startx didn't help - x was already running. The xorg log shows no problems. The problem is in, or associated with, lightdm, but stopping and restarting it made no difference. Currently, I have altered the default desktop manager to gdm. This works, but I really don't like it! Lightdm running unity really is nice. gdm is not as easy to use and is much slower. I guess I'll just have to try lightdm after every likely update until it works again. I booted into my paralell installation of 13.10 this morning to get access to Trusty and edit the desktop manager. It is so slow compared with Trusty. I'd forgotten about that. Regards,Barry. -- Libertus Solutions http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Trusty problem .....
On 14/03/14 20:52, Barry Drake wrote: On 14/03/14 15:18, Peter Smout wrote: lightdm - this command should through you to the graphical login screen (may need to be run as root ) It may also be worth checking the logs in /var/log (cd into /var/log and use nano to view the files) I'd look in the xorg log first if it still exists :) Thanks all of you. startx didn't help - x was already running. The xorg log shows no problems. The problem is in, or associated with, lightdm, but stopping and restarting it made no difference. Currently, I have altered the default desktop manager to gdm. This works, but I really don't like it! Lightdm running unity really is nice. gdm is not as easy to use and is much slower. I guess I'll just have to try lightdm after every likely update until it works again. I booted into my paralell installation of 13.10 this morning to get access to Trusty and edit the desktop manager. It is so slow compared with Trusty. I'd forgotten about that. Regards,Barry. Might be worth re-installing lightdm, possibly after purging to remove config filesjust a thought. Pete S -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Trusty problem .....
On 14/03/14 15:18, Peter Smout wrote: lightdm - this command should through you to the graphical login screen (may need to be run as root ) It may also be worth checking the logs in /var/log (cd into /var/log and use nano to view the files) I'd look in the xorg log first if it still exists :) Thanks all of you. startx didn't help - x was already running. The xorg log shows no problems. The problem is in, or associated with, lightdm, but stopping and restarting it made no difference. Currently, I have altered the default desktop manager to gdm. This works, but I really don't like it! Lightdm running unity really is nice. gdm is not as easy to use and is much slower. I guess I'll just have to try lightdm after every likely update until it works again. I booted into my paralell installation of 13.10 this morning to get access to Trusty and edit the desktop manager. It is so slow compared with Trusty. I'd forgotten about that. Regards,Barry. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Trusty problem .....
On 14/03/14 15:30, Liam Proven wrote: On 14 March 2014 15:18, Peter Smout wrote: I am no expert, but if you have a prompt Correct. (I'll mention at this point that I'm running Saucy so some of this may well be obsolete, in which case please accept my apologies in advance!). It isn't obsolete. Trusty isn't out yet. I don't think it's even formally in beta. It is not finished, and as such, anyone running it should /expect/ to have problems. If you get a login prompt login first (obviously) startx - this command starts the 'X-server' that powers your GUI, this is possibly redundant if 14.04 is using Mir (I hope not as these things should be tested in a development release first!) This should work, yes. The first thing I'd do, though, would be to see if there was an xorg.conf file in /etc/X11. If there is, remove it, or better still, temporarily move it elsewhere or rename it. As of recent X.org versions, for a few years now, it should start and run fine with no xorg.conf - removing this is an easy way of getting around problems with proprietary drivers, for instance. H interesting I had to create a xorg.conf file to get my laptop to display correctly on HDTV And no, Mir will not be on by default in 14.04! But of course the OP /might/ have enabled it. Pete S -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Trusty problem .....
On 14 March 2014 15:18, Peter Smout wrote: > I am no expert, but if you have a prompt prompt then AFAIK the 'system' has started OK, but for some reason the GUI > has not and I did know a couple of commands that MAY help Correct. > (I'll mention at this point that I'm running Saucy so some of this may well > be obsolete, in which case please accept my apologies in advance!). It isn't obsolete. Trusty isn't out yet. I don't think it's even formally in beta. It is not finished, and as such, anyone running it should /expect/ to have problems. > If you get a login prompt login first (obviously) > > startx - this command starts the 'X-server' that powers your GUI, this is > possibly redundant if 14.04 is using Mir (I hope not as these things should > be tested in a development release first!) This should work, yes. The first thing I'd do, though, would be to see if there was an xorg.conf file in /etc/X11. If there is, remove it, or better still, temporarily move it elsewhere or rename it. As of recent X.org versions, for a few years now, it should start and run fine with no xorg.conf - removing this is an easy way of getting around problems with proprietary drivers, for instance. And no, Mir will not be on by default in 14.04! But of course the OP /might/ have enabled it. -- Liam Proven * Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk * GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com * Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 * Cell: +44 7939-087884 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Trusty problem .....
On 14/03/14 09:25, Barry Drake wrote: Hi there After taking the updates yesterday evening, my installation of Trusty fails. I get the login screen, but after entering a password, I get a blank background with nothing else other than a cursor. I have used a terminal this morning to do update and upgrade, but the problem is currently still there. If you guys have any commandline tricks, that would be good. Otherwise, I'll just have to boot and use the terminal to update from time to time hoping the problem will get fixed. Any suggestions? Regards, Barry. Hi, I am no expert, but if you have a prompt prompt then AFAIK the 'system' has started OK, but for some reason the GUI has not and I did know a couple of commands that MAY help (I'll mention at this point that I'm running Saucy so some of this may well be obsolete, in which case please accept my apologies in advance!). If you get a login prompt login first (obviously) startx - this command starts the 'X-server' that powers your GUI, this is possibly redundant if 14.04 is using Mir (I hope not as these things should be tested in a development release first!) lightdm - this command should through you to the graphical login screen (may need to be run as root ) It may also be worth checking the logs in /var/log (cd into /var/log and use nano to view the files) I'd look in the xorg log first if it still exists :) None of this will correct the error that has left you hanging in limbo, but might get you a usable system! If you are just getting a flashing cursor in the top left corner of the screen I know of no-way to recover the system, when it has happened to me I've always ended up re-installing. As I stated I'm not a expert and if anyone has any other hints or tips or correct an error I have made I would be pleased to hear :) I've waited all day before replying to your question in the hope someone with more knowledge than myself would jump in first! Wishing you good luck, Regards Pete S -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Trusty problem .....
Hi there After taking the updates yesterday evening, my installation of Trusty fails. I get the login screen, but after entering a password, I get a blank background with nothing else other than a cursor. I have used a terminal this morning to do update and upgrade, but the problem is currently still there. If you guys have any commandline tricks, that would be good. Otherwise, I'll just have to boot and use the terminal to update from time to time hoping the problem will get fixed. Any suggestions? Regards, Barry. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
