Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Posters

2008-11-14 Thread Rob Beard
Rob Beard wrote:
 HI folks,
 
 Further to Paul Sutton's comments about posters, would it be worth 
 getting some Ubuntu posters professionally printed from somewhere like 
 VistaPrint?
 
 As happy as I would be to print A4 posters out at home on photo paper or 
 at work on the Xerox printer, sometimes I can't help but think maybe a 
 glossy A3 poster would look really good.
 
 Something like this one which appears someone was selling...
 
 http://diy.devubuntu.com/repo/spreadubuntu/DIY%20Material/Batch%201,%20Posters/HanZo/poster-layout.jpg
 
 (of course we'd have to try and get higher quality artwork for printing).
 
 Rob
 

Doh, just had a look at the link that Alan posted.  Got some good 
posters on there.  I could only find PNG and JPG formats though, not 
anything in either OpenOffice, SVG or Scribus format :-(

I might have to print off some Ubuntu fridge magnets though.  I've often 
thought that my fridge should be powered by Ubuntu ;-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Posters

2008-11-14 Thread Alan Pope
2008/11/14 Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I might have to print off some Ubuntu fridge magnets though.  I've often
 thought that my fridge should be powered by Ubuntu ;-)


I quite like the idea of a bumper sticker. I have a debian one on my
car at the moment, but it's been on there a few years. Time for an
upgrade.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Posters

2008-11-14 Thread Rob Beard
Alan Pope wrote:
 2008/11/14 Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I might have to print off some Ubuntu fridge magnets though.  I've often
 thought that my fridge should be powered by Ubuntu ;-)

 
 I quite like the idea of a bumper sticker. I have a debian one on my
 car at the moment, but it's been on there a few years. Time for an
 upgrade.
 
 Cheers,
 Al.
 

Never thought of that.

Anyone got a brown mini with an Ubuntu logo stuck to it? :-)

Other option I guess is some car window stickers.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Posters

2008-11-14 Thread Dave Walker
Alan Pope wrote:
 I quite like the idea of a bumper sticker. I have a debian one on my
 car at the moment, but it's been on there a few years. Time for an
 upgrade.

 Cheers,
 Al.

I think this is a superb idea.. However, the same question that keeps
raising it's head when this is discussed - Should they be sold for
cost, or a slight mark-up.  If so, what happens with the money?

Kind Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Posters

2008-11-14 Thread Matt Jones
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Dave Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Alan Pope wrote:
  I quite like the idea of a bumper sticker. I have a debian one on my
  car at the moment, but it's been on there a few years. Time for an
  upgrade.
 
  Cheers,
  Al.

 I think this is a superb idea.. However, the same question that keeps
 raising it's head when this is discussed - Should they be sold for
 cost, or a slight mark-up.  If so, what happens with the money?

 Kind Regards,
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Maybe this should be put as a suggestion to the people who run the canonical
ubuntu store, especially on the sticker front.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Posters

2008-11-14 Thread David King
I would suggest that if such a poster was being used in the UK, that the 
spelling be changed to British spelling instead of American.

David King


Rob Beard wrote:
 HI folks,

 Further to Paul Sutton's comments about posters, would it be worth 
 getting some Ubuntu posters professionally printed from somewhere like 
 VistaPrint?

 As happy as I would be to print A4 posters out at home on photo paper or 
 at work on the Xerox printer, sometimes I can't help but think maybe a 
 glossy A3 poster would look really good.

 Something like this one which appears someone was selling...

 http://diy.devubuntu.com/repo/spreadubuntu/DIY%20Material/Batch%201,%20Posters/HanZo/poster-layout.jpg

 (of course we'd have to try and get higher quality artwork for printing).

 Rob

   

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Posters

2008-11-14 Thread Rob Beard
David King wrote:
 I would suggest that if such a poster was being used in the UK, that the 
 spelling be changed to British spelling instead of American.
 
 David King
 

Yep, hence needing the original artwork and not just a JPG/PNG image.

I'm sure it's out there on the net somewhere.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Posters

2008-11-14 Thread Philip Wyett
On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 17:35 +, Dave Walker wrote:
 Alan Pope wrote:
  I quite like the idea of a bumper sticker. I have a debian one on my
  car at the moment, but it's been on there a few years. Time for an
  upgrade.
 
  Cheers,
  Al.
 
 I think this is a superb idea.. However, the same question that keeps
 raising it's head when this is discussed - Should they be sold for
 cost, or a slight mark-up.  If so, what happens with the money?
 
 Kind Regards,
 Dave Walker
 

A bumper sticker has a very limited audience and the item itself
conjures up some mental pictures stereotypes i.e. one ventriloquists
characters specifically ...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq4GI9NZKxM :-D

Note for those like myself that don't use flash. You can use
http://mux.am to convert it to theora. ;-)

Regards

Phil


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Posters

2008-11-14 Thread Philip Wyett
On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 18:17 +, Rob Beard wrote:
 David King wrote:
  I would suggest that if such a poster was being used in the UK, that the 
  spelling be changed to British spelling instead of American.
  
  David King
  
 
 Yep, hence needing the original artwork and not just a JPG/PNG image.
 
 I'm sure it's out there on the net somewhere.
 
 Rob
 

As a group we can accomplish these things and create a good promo stuff
for the UK that maybe generic enough for others to use and be pushed
into the spread ubuntu arena. We can create some good print quality
stuff and I would love to have us do this. As an example. An Ubuntu CD
wrap is good but we should have a nice insert for us as the UK team to
point people to the mailing and IRC etc. Keep to the branding but we add
an avenue to the UK community for support.

These things we can put up for discussion at upcoming team meetings, a
call for artists and interested writers etc.

Regards

Phil


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Posters - cafe press

2008-11-14 Thread Paul Sutton
Matt Jones wrote:


 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Dave Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Alan Pope wrote:
  I quite like the idea of a bumper sticker. I have a debian one on my
  car at the moment, but it's been on there a few years. Time for an
  upgrade.
 
  Cheers,
  Al.

 I think this is a superb idea.. However, the same question that keeps
 raising it's head when this is discussed - Should they be sold for
 cost, or a slight mark-up.  If so, what happens with the money?

 Kind Regards,
 Dave Walker

I am sure cafe press do stuff like thism if you give them art work they 
will transfer on to all sorts of stuff, stickers,  car stickers, bumper 
stickers etc etc, at leat with that perhaps we can set up a general 
ubuntu-uk shop,   We can then raise funds for stuff like this, and also 
sell things that will more to the genral public and kids (like ubuntu 
teddy bears - start em early eh),  

this may be the way forward,  they have the resouces to create the items 
in house, and sell them via the site,  all we would need is a link to 
our shop on their site the various team pages,

funds raised can perhaps go towards more advocacy etc, for ubuntu 
generally  I think we need the backing of canonical for this,  and work 
with them to make it all work,

i agree however that doing these posters your self the cost builds up,  
i have just downloaded some a5 posters, and am about to laminate them, i 
also downloaded a flyer with pull off tabs at the bottom which I have 
perforated (as my cutter does that),  this looks fine, but posters and 
things to be displayed must look professional, we are up against 
Microsoft on this and we need to be able to at least try to compete with 
regard to poster quality.

You never know if we had the funds we could advertise on a bus,   
Paignton RFC sell banners for 200 quid including the banner and site 
hire for a year,  (i think or could be season september to may),   but 
it would be good exposure,  which is what we need, 

as people have mentioned COmputer = microsoft = windows,  this needs to 
change and will change if people start seeing Linux / Ubuntu etc etc all 
over the place, it will take time but should have the desired effect.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Posters

2008-11-14 Thread Paul Sutton
Rob Beard wrote:
 David King wrote:
   
 I would suggest that if such a poster was being used in the UK, that the 
 spelling be changed to British spelling instead of American.

 David King

 

Not mention grammar, spelling and lack of proof reading the poster I 
have here says

Thousands of free and legal software are available with the click of a 
button,  (see link to resources for this poster),  i don't think i will 
bother printing them now due to the errors, they just look bad, 


this should read software titles,  or something surely.  I think it also 
says wtithin but again its cut off,  part the issue is its using US 
paper sizes, I don't have any, can't afford to buy it, and it should 
really be in A4, which is international, and still prints on US letter 
paper.

Paul


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Posters

2008-11-14 Thread Paul Sutton
Alan Pope wrote:
 2008/11/14 Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 I might have to print off some Ubuntu fridge magnets though.  I've often
 thought that my fridge should be powered by Ubuntu ;-)

 

 I quite like the idea of a bumper sticker. I have a debian one on my
 car at the moment, but it's been on there a few years. Time for an
 upgrade.

 Cheers,
 Al.

   
I have just printed off a sheet of avery j8160 labels, with a pic of tux 
on,  these go down great with kids, they love stickers, i need some more 
labels so I can print some with the ubuntu circle of friends and perhaps 
the website if space permits, 

then we can start really doing stuff, these are idea at events etc.  
ideally however they would be professionally printed,  cheap in quantity 
like its £1.70 for 40 ubuntu stickers from canonical,  this is my sort 
of price range, 

on the subject of car stickers they already do stickers which are clear, 
so a car sticker is the same but the printed side is reversed or 
something so it can be seen from the out side,



Paul

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Posters

2008-11-14 Thread David King
I think Paul has hit on something important here. A lot of software, 
including FOSS, likes to default to US Letter size, a size which is 
alien to people outside of North America.

And considering Ubuntu is from South Africa (not the USA, like 
Microsoft), we really need to have any posters, etc., using the 
international standard paper sizes like A4, A3, A2, etc.

With some distros (I forget which), despite selecting my location as 
London, UK, when installing, I still find that some software defaults to 
things like US Letter size and inches, instead of A4 and millimetres 
(including Firefox 2 on Linux, but not in Windows; Firefox 3 works with 
the proper UK settings).

David King


Paul Sutton wrote:
 ...
  part the issue is its using US 
 paper sizes, I don't have any, can't afford to buy it, and it should 
 really be in A4, which is international, and still prints on US letter 
 paper.

 Paul

   

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Posters

2008-11-14 Thread alan c
Dave Walker wrote:
 Alan Pope wrote:
 I quite like the idea of a bumper sticker. I have a debian one on my
 car at the moment, but it's been on there a few years. Time for an
 upgrade.

 Cheers,
 Al.
 
 I think this is a superb idea.. However, the same question that keeps
 raising it's head when this is discussed - Should they be sold for
 cost, or a slight mark-up.  If so, what happens with the money?

I really like the idea of bumper stickers!
Bumper stickers of any reasonable quality - with some water and UV 
resistance - are not particularly cheap. I have modified oval stickers 
for my bumpers, and they are still fading. In fact the standard gloss 
paper Ubuntu Sticker is surprisingly good if you dont mind keeping an 
occasional eye on it for replacement.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Posters

2008-11-14 Thread Alan Pope
2008/11/14 alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I really like the idea of bumper stickers!
 Bumper stickers of any reasonable quality - with some water and UV
 resistance - are not particularly cheap. I have modified oval stickers
 for my bumpers, and they are still fading. In fact the standard gloss
 paper Ubuntu Sticker is surprisingly good if you dont mind keeping an
 occasional eye on it for replacement.

Mine:-

http://gallery.popey.com/gallery/v/bbq3/Img_309.jpg.html

It's lasted quite well actually. Starting to fade a bit though.
Although of course mine is not strictly a car sticker because it's on
the outside. I guess ones on the inside would weather better but would
certainly fade in the sun.

Cheers,
Al.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Posters

2008-11-14 Thread Matt Jones
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2008/11/14 alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I really like the idea of bumper stickers!
  Bumper stickers of any reasonable quality - with some water and UV
  resistance - are not particularly cheap. I have modified oval stickers
  for my bumpers, and they are still fading. In fact the standard gloss
  paper Ubuntu Sticker is surprisingly good if you dont mind keeping an
  occasional eye on it for replacement.

 Mine:-

 http://gallery.popey.com/gallery/v/bbq3/Img_309.jpg.html

 It's lasted quite well actually. Starting to fade a bit though.
 Although of course mine is not strictly a car sticker because it's on
 the outside. I guess ones on the inside would weather better but would
 certainly fade in the sun.

 Cheers,
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For DIY stickers, this stuff http://linkpot.net/odious/
is fantastic, although expensive. I used it for the ORG laptop skin I made,
it prints just like glossy photo paper but it has a microfibre surface so it
is basically waterproof.(I left a freshly printed strip in a jar of water
and over about 4 hours it did bleed a bit but this was probably an extreme
example). If anyone could let me know of somewhere cheaper than just under
£1 a sheet then it would be handy!
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Posters

2008-11-14 Thread Paul Sutton
Matt Jones wrote:


 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2008/11/14 alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I really like the idea of bumper stickers!
  Bumper stickers of any reasonable quality - with some water and UV
  resistance - are not particularly cheap. I have modified oval
 stickers
  for my bumpers, and they are still fading. In fact the standard
 gloss
  paper Ubuntu Sticker is surprisingly good if you dont mind
 keeping an
  occasional eye on it for replacement.


http://bumperstickers.cafepress.com/item/ubuntu-sticker-bumper/158648386

$4.49

Not sure what the current exchange rate is,

Paul

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Posters

2008-11-14 Thread Michael Holmes
2008/11/14 Paul Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 http://bumperstickers.cafepress.com/item/ubuntu-sticker-bumper/158648386

 $4.49

 Not sure what the current exchange rate is,

Cafepress says £3.03 here.

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