Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on BBC news website

2008-04-22 Thread alan c
Kris Marsh wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7358483.stm
> 
> It's the top article on the Technology page
> [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm], and it was the on
> the main BBC news page [http://news.bbc.co.uk/] earlier.

also see the blog:
Is it lift off for Linux?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/04/is_it_lift_off_for_linux.html
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on BBC news website

2008-04-21 Thread Jai Harrison
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:47 AM, Sean Anderson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Josh, I thought that they were probably referring to the Windows
>  preview, but I would not consider booting from a CD in any way a major
>  change to my system :)
>
>  Sean.

Then I guess your name isn't Darren Waters (the author of the article =P).

But yeah, I guess for someone who's never booted from a Live CD the
idea can seem scary. Now all they have to do is install the
application the same way they're used to and they can remove it just
as easily.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on BBC news website

2008-04-21 Thread Sean Anderson

On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 00:42 +0100, Josh Blacker wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 22:03 +0100, Sean Anderson wrote:
> 
> > > The version [Hardy Heron] has also been designed to ... give users the
> > > chance to try the OS without making radical alterations to their
> > > current computer set-up.
> > The liveCD is nothing new to ubuntu, even if trying ubuntu under the
> > Windows OS is. It's technically not inaccurate, but seems a bit iffy
> > again.
> 
> Although I agree with some of what you said, I think you misunderstood
> the article at this point.
> 
> I think it's probably referring to the ability to install Ubuntu under
> windows using the windows bootloader - the new Wubi installer, I believe
> - rather than the liveCD. Installing under windows means you don't have
> to partition - the "radical alterations" the article mentions.
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> All the best,
> Josh Blacker

Josh, I thought that they were probably referring to the Windows
preview, but I would not consider booting from a CD in any way a major
change to my system :)

Sean.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on BBC news website

2008-04-21 Thread Josh Blacker
On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 22:03 +0100, Sean Anderson wrote:

> > The version [Hardy Heron] has also been designed to ... give users the
> > chance to try the OS without making radical alterations to their
> > current computer set-up.
> The liveCD is nothing new to ubuntu, even if trying ubuntu under the
> Windows OS is. It's technically not inaccurate, but seems a bit iffy
> again.

Although I agree with some of what you said, I think you misunderstood
the article at this point.

I think it's probably referring to the ability to install Ubuntu under
windows using the windows bootloader - the new Wubi installer, I believe
- rather than the liveCD. Installing under windows means you don't have
to partition - the "radical alterations" the article mentions.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on BBC news website

2008-04-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
awesome rant !!! :)

On 21/04/2008, Kris Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7358483.stm
>
> It's the top article on the Technology page
> [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm], and it was the on
> the main BBC news page [http://news.bbc.co.uk/] earlier.
>
> Kris
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on BBC news website

2008-04-21 Thread Sean Anderson
On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 18:34 +0100, Colin McCarthy wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Kris Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7358483.stm
> 
> It's the top article on the Technology page
> [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm], and it
> was the on
> the main BBC news page [http://news.bbc.co.uk/] earlier.
> 
> I just noticed this too. Was a bit of a surprise.  Maybe the worm
> really is starting to turn :-)

Oh dear, some reading of the article does not give me a sense of
confidence in the BBC's understanding of the topic :P

>From the article:
> ..said Mark Shuttleworth, who leads distribution of the Ubuntu
> operating system (OS)
Wait, he leads distribution? Maybe it's a typo.

> He manages Canonical software, which is the primary sponsor of
> distribution for Ubuntu, and a key element in the platform's
> development.
Ubuntu is *a* distribution, and surely the platform is Linux, not
ubuntu? Might be a bit of a taxonomic moan, but that doesn't seem right.

> The version [Hardy Heron] has also been designed to ... give users the
> chance to try the OS without making radical alterations to their
> current computer set-up.
The liveCD is nothing new to ubuntu, even if trying ubuntu under the
Windows OS is. It's technically not inaccurate, but seems a bit iffy
again.

There's not much in the article that would give a new user any reasons
to try ubuntu rather than stick with Windows; no screenshots, no
technical detail, barely any descriptions of ubuntu features. Of course
for screenshots I presume that the author would have to *use* Linux,
which doesn't appear to be the case. Whether or not the writer has the
technical knowledge and just isn't saying isn't apparent, but he's
hiding it well enough if he does.

It's not brazenly inaccurate, but the article seems to have been written
by someone who began his research by opening Google and typing Lyn^H^H,
"wait, no that's not it..."i-n-u-x... and optimistically clicking "I'm
feeling lucky." The extended version: I'm feeling lucky, and I hope to
god no one that understands half these terms I'm using gets wind of this
article.

Sean.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on BBC news website

2008-04-21 Thread Colin McCarthy
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Kris Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7358483.stm
>
> It's the top article on the Technology page
> [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm], and it was the on
> the main BBC news page [http://news.bbc.co.uk/] earlier.
>
> Kris 


I just noticed this too. Was a bit of a surprise.  Maybe the worm really is
starting to turn :-)

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[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on BBC news website

2008-04-21 Thread Kris Marsh
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7358483.stm

It's the top article on the Technology page
[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm], and it was the on
the main BBC news page [http://news.bbc.co.uk/] earlier.

Kris

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