Re: [ubuntu-uk] Why did you all ignore me........................
Assuming you can't boot in Windows and fix the improper shutdown issue, perhaps the key is to mount it from Gutsy with the older read-only driver? However, that is only half a fix because, of course, you won't be able to write to it which makes it little more than a glorified CD. Personally if it was causing me sleepless nights, rather than get tireder and tireder I'd be inclined to splash out and buy another 200GB drive, format it ext3 or some other sensible filesystem type, boot into Feisty Live, copy all the files over and then re-format the original one. In a day or so I'd be over the crisis and able to find some more useless things to fret/lose sleep about. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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My suspicion about the change of the default drive in Gutsy is confirmed here... http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg512470.html Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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I used to be able to mount NTFS drives read-only regardless of whether they'd been shut down correctly... it was only if I manually tried to mount them read/write that I'd get the improperly shut down error. In Gutsy the read/write is default... I believe in Feisty it was not, and this (I think) is almost certainly your issue. Question - when you mount it in Feisty Live is it read-only? I believe that there is a way of resolving the "improperly shutdown" status on a drive from the command line but I don't personally know the syntax or the risks involved. Would be much better to simply mount the drive on a Windows box and then shut it down normally and see if that resolves it - is this really not an option? Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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To Dave Restall I have give as much information as I can with my limited knowledge of what I should be looking for, however here is the output of dmseg when it hangs(at the ubuntu startup screen) below is the output from when I type dmesg in the terminal... 48.698824] NFORCE2: IDE controller at PCI slot :00:09.0 [ 48.698849] NFORCE2: chipset revision 162 [ 48.698851] NFORCE2: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later [ 48.698855] NFORCE2: BIOS didn't set cable bits correctly. Enabling workaround. [ 48.698857] NFORCE2: BIOS didn't set cable bits correctly. Enabling workaround. [ 48.698863] NFORCE2: :00:09.0 (rev a2) UDMA133 controller [ 48.698873] ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA [ 48.698885] ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA [ 48.698893] Probing IDE interface ide0... [ 48.986396] hda: MAXTOR STM3160215A, ATA DISK drive [ 49.210085] usb 2-2: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2 [ 49.266156] hdb: IBM-DTLA-307030, ATA DISK drive [ 49.322735] ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 [ 49.325552] Probing IDE interface ide1... [ 49.428852] usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 49.443924] usbcore: registered new interface driver hiddev [ 49.450083] input: Dell Dell USB Mouse as /class/input/input2 [ 49.450209] input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Dell Dell USB Mouse] on usb-:00:02.1-2 [ 49.450223] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid [ 49.450227] /build/buildd/linux-source-2.6.22-2.6.22/drivers/hid/usbhid/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver [ 50.061481] hdc: ASUS DRW-1608P3S, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive [ 50.733032] ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 [ 50.737788] HPT374: IDE controller at PCI slot :01:09.0 [ 50.737994] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC2] enabled at IRQ 17 [ 50.738002] ACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:09.0[A] -> Link [APC2] -> GSI 17 (level, high) -> IRQ 19 [ 50.738014] HPT374: chipset revision 7 [ 50.738029] HPT374: DPLL base: 48 MHz, f_CNT: 127, assuming 33 MHz PCI [ 50.742964] HPT374: using 50 MHz DPLL clock [ 50.743071] HPT374: 100% native mode on irq 19 [ 50.743083] ide2: BM-DMA at 0xa000-0xa007, BIOS settings: hde:pio, hdf:pio [ 50.743106] ide3: BM-DMA at 0xa008-0xa00f, BIOS settings: hdg:pio, hdh:pio [ 50.743153] ACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:09.1[A] -> Link [APC2] -> GSI 17 (level, high) -> IRQ 19 [ 50.743171] HPT374: no clock data saved by BIOS [ 50.870303] HPT374: DPLL base: 48 MHz, f_CNT: 122, assuming 33 MHz PCI [ 50.875222] HPT374: using 50 MHz DPLL clock [ 50.875329] HPT374: too many IDE interfaces, no room in table [ 50.875333] HPT374: too many IDE interfaces, no room in table [ 50.875335] HPT374: neither IDE port enabled (BIOS) [ 50.875340] Probing IDE interface ide2... [ 50.890030] hda: max request size: 512KiB [ 50.934236] hda: 312581808 sectors (160041 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=19457/255/63, UDMA(100) [ 50.958593] hda: cache flushes supported [ 50.958645] hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 > [ 50.995248] hdb: max request size: 128KiB [ 51.023211] hdb: 60036480 sectors (30738 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=59560/16/63, UDMA(100) [ 51.023216] hdb: cache flushes not supported [ 51.023237] hdb: hdb1 < hdb5 hdb6 hdb7 hdb8 hdb9 hdb10 > [ 51.110502] hdc: ATAPI 40X DVD-ROM DVD-R-RAM CD-R/RW drive, 2000kB Cache, UDMA(66) [ 51.110512] Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 [ 51.440193] Probing IDE interface ide3... [ 52.008120] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [AP3C] enabled at IRQ 22 [ 52.008127] ACPI: PCI Interrupt :02:01.0[A] -> Link [AP3C] -> GSI 22 (level, high) -> IRQ 16 [ 52.008134] 3c59x: Donald Becker and others. [ 52.008140] :02:01.0: 3Com PCI 3c920 Tornado at f883a000. [ 52.031428] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCM] enabled at IRQ 21 [ 52.031434] ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:0d.0[A] -> Link [APCM] -> GSI 21 (level, high) -> IRQ 17 [ 52.031441] PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:0d.0 to 64 [ 52.083524] ohci1394: fw-host0: OHCI-1394 1.1 (PCI): IRQ=[17] MMIO=[e6082000-e60827ff] Max Packet=[2048] IR/IT contexts=[4/4] [ 52.090025] sata_sil :01:0b.0: version 2.2 [ 52.090266] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC3] enabled at IRQ 18 [ 52.090275] ACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:0b.0[A] -> Link [APC3] -> GSI 18 (level, high) -> IRQ 20 [ 52.090731] scsi0 : sata_sil [ 52.090939] scsi1 : sata_sil [ 52.091077] ata1: SATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xf884c080 ctl 0xf884c08a bmdma 0xf884c000 irq 20 [ 52.091082] ata2: SATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xf884c0c0 ctl 0xf884c0ca bmdma 0xf884c008 irq 20 [ 52.611208] ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310) [ 52.619757] ata1.00: ATA-6: ST3120023AS, 3.01, max UDMA/133 [ 52.619760] ata1.00: 234441648 sectors, multi 16: LBA [ 52.619762] ata1.00: applying bridge limits [ 52.619768] ata1.00: applying Seagate errata fix (mod15write workaround)
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Why did you all ignore me........................
Quoting David Restall - System Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> access all the content. However, today I booted up from a Gutsy Live >> (CD) and although I can still see the drive, it would not mount. It gave >> me some error about improper shutdown or it still being in use. Also >> something about ntfs and a very concise option on how to force mount it > > More snips... > > Because it is seen as 'improper shutdown or it still being in use', I > would suspect that it is in use rather than improper shutdown. If it > was a shutdown problem the live cd would probably give you the same > message becuase it too would detect the improper shutdown. This leads > to the conclusion that the drive must be seen as in use. Something must > be trying to mount or access that drive and so stopping it from being > mounted. What does your mount command show ? The drive may already be > mounted just not where you expect it to be. > I find that on my laptop which dual boots Gutsy and Windows XP, if I hibernate Windows XP I'm unable to mount the NTFS partition as it said it isn't shutdown correctly. Sounds like a similar thing. Is it possible to boot the machine in Windows and shut it down correctly? Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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Hi, Has nobody told you about the BO ? :-) > I posted this and no one replied. I've met Alan Pope and Dave Walker > at the gutsy party as well as Mark Shuttleworth who tried to help me > out also. > > Please does anyoen have a clue to the below. > > Ok, some additional information. It seems that I got it wrong in the Snip... > access all the content. However, today I booted up from a Gutsy Live > (CD) and although I can still see the drive, it would not mount. It gave > me some error about improper shutdown or it still being in use. Also > something about ntfs and a very concise option on how to force mount it More snips... Because it is seen as 'improper shutdown or it still being in use', I would suspect that it is in use rather than improper shutdown. If it was a shutdown problem the live cd would probably give you the same message becuase it too would detect the improper shutdown. This leads to the conclusion that the drive must be seen as in use. Something must be trying to mount or access that drive and so stopping it from being mounted. What does your mount command show ? The drive may already be mounted just not where you expect it to be. > Has anyone got any idea why I can see and use the drive connected to > port 1 or 2 on the Highpoint Rocket Raid 1540 SATA , when using the > Feisty Live (DvD) but it will not work on either the Gutsy Live (Cd) > or either Feisty or Gutsy installed on an IDE hard drive? > > Please help me someone as this is causing me sleepless nights and I dont > know enough about linux or Ubuntu yet to try compiling the source HPT374 > driver from Highpoint, yet. > > Nuff respect to all the good work all of you do both here and elsewhere, > in promoting this wonderful (if sometimes frustrating) OS. TTFN D ubuntu/uk-2007-11-08.tx[EMAIL PROTECTED] ubuntu-uk ++ | Dave Restall, Computer Nerd, Cyclist, Radio Amateur G4FCU, Bodger | | Mob +44 (0) 7973 831245 Skype: dave.restall Radio: G4FCU | | email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : Not Ready Yet :-( | ++ | Cheops' Law: | | Nothing ever gets built on schedule or within budget. | ++ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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Hi, Has nobody told you about the BO ? :-) > I posted this and no one replied. I've met Alan Pope and Dave Walker > at the gutsy party as well as Mark Shuttleworth who tried to help me > out also. > > Please does anyoen have a clue to the below. > > Ok, some additional information. It seems that I got it wrong in the Snip... > access all the content. However, today I booted up from a Gutsy Live > (CD) and although I can still see the drive, it would not mount. It gave > me some error about improper shutdown or it still being in use. Also > something about ntfs and a very concise option on how to force mount it More snips... Because it is seen as 'improper shutdown or it still being in use', I would suspect that it is in use rather than improper shutdown. If it was a shutdown problem the live cd would probably give you the same message becuase it too would detect the improper shutdown. This leads to the conclusion that the drive must be seen as in use. Something must be trying to mount or access that drive and so stopping it from being mounted. What does your mount command show ? The drive may already be mounted just not where you expect it to be. > Has anyone got any idea why I can see and use the drive connected to > port 1 or 2 on the Highpoint Rocket Raid 1540 SATA , when using the > Feisty Live (DvD) but it will not work on either the Gutsy Live (Cd) > or either Feisty or Gutsy installed on an IDE hard drive? > > Please help me someone as this is causing me sleepless nights and I dont > know enough about linux or Ubuntu yet to try compiling the source HPT374 > driver from Highpoint, yet. > > Nuff respect to all the good work all of you do both here and elsewhere, > in promoting this wonderful (if sometimes frustrating) OS. TTFN D ubuntu/uk-2007-11-08.tx[EMAIL PROTECTED] ubuntu-uk ++ | Dave Restall, Computer Nerd, Cyclist, Radio Amateur G4FCU, Bodger | | Mob +44 (0) 7973 831245 Skype: dave.restall Radio: G4FCU | | email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : Not Ready Yet :-( | ++ | There's only one way to have a happy marriage and as soon as I learn | | what it is I'll get married again. | | -- Clint Eastwood | ++ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 00:59:18 + Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Why did you all ignore me On 08/11/2007, Rohan Omard wrote: > can still see the drive, it would not mount. It gave me some error about > improper shutdown or it still being in use. Also something about ntfs and a Post precise error messages. > 1.) The drive mounts and is able to be accessed normally from a Feisty Live > (DvD). So it's a perfectly good drive and free of errors? You're quite sure of this? > 2.)The drive is visible but is not mounted, neither can it be accessed on > the Gutsy Live (Cd) without forcing (something I am not prepared to do at > this juncture as the data held on it is to important to me to risk > corruption). 3.)The drive causes a virgin Feisty installation to a IDE hard > drive to freeze at the Ubuntu splash window, if it is connected to the > Highpoint RocketRaid 1540 interface card at boot up (* please note that it > will only cause a boot freeze if connected to ports 1 or 2 on the interface > card - If connected to ports 3 or 4 it will boot normally, however the drive > is not visible inside either ubuntu Feisty or Gutsy if the the OS is > installed on a hard drive). If the data is that important to you, you'll have it backed up. You issue with it locking your machine if it's connected to specific ports sounds like a fairly major bug the drive is legit. Nothing on any of the bug trackers about issues with this controller? Amusing choice of signatures and email addresses by the way. -- Steve When 1 person suffers from a delusion it is insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Religion. 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- Steve Thank you for your reply. Ok, I first wrote concerning this matter in Volume 31, either issue 19 or 20 and no one replied, hence my angst. I submitted an ubuntu question soon after having this problem here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/12661 When I felt I had more information(and was a little more clued up about where to post such things) I posted a bug report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/159397 as for my email address and sig it is a remnant of my online gaming days when I used to be a clan leader playing Sof 1 & 2. :D Regards N3m3sis (Rohan O'mard) From: "Sean Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "British Ubuntu Talk" Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 06:35:16 + Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Why did you all ignore me Mark Shuttleworth does technical support? Wow, very hands on... Seriously, this error sounds like the one that is given if (for example) you try to mount a Windows drive and it hasn't been shut down properly... the easiest solution normally is to boot into Windows, let it do its "Scandisk" or whatever, and then shutdown in an orderly manner. I assume this isn't an option? (unfortunately you've started a new thread so I can't see your original cry for help at this moment)... Another alternative would surely be to copy the data off the drive using the Feisty Live CD, perhaps onto removable storage or another drive, and then reformat this one and be done with it... surely easier than all those sleepless nights you seem to be having as a result. Sean Hi Sean Seriously.. I met Mark Shuttleworth at a Gutsy launch party in Hackney, east London and he did indeed listen to my problem and try to help me. by going on his pda and looking to see if perhaps there migh be a bios update for the highpoint 1540 sata card that I was/still am having so much trouble with. A fact that Alan Pope, Dave Walker and John Levin could verify as they also listened to my problem and tried to give suggestions as to why it is happening. The drive is sound. The problem occurs with any sata drive plugged into either porrts 1 or 2 of the interface card( I know this because I have 3 such drives and have alternatively tried them all, with the same results). The drive is a 200gb drive which is nearly full(of music, films etc) that I do not have the facility to back up at present. Besides that, it works very well when I boot from the feisty liveDvD. On the Gutsy liveCD however, I can see the drive but not access it or see its contentsstrange. Regards N3m3sis (Rohan O'mard) - For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this month.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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Mark Shuttleworth does technical support? Wow, very hands on... Seriously, this error sounds like the one that is given if (for example) you try to mount a Windows drive and it hasn't been shut down properly... the easiest solution normally is to boot into Windows, let it do its "Scandisk" or whatever, and then shutdown in an orderly manner. I assume this isn't an option? (unfortunately you've started a new thread so I can't see your original cry for help at this moment)... Another alternative would surely be to copy the data off the drive using the Feisty Live CD, perhaps onto removable storage or another drive, and then reformat this one and be done with it... surely easier than all those sleepless nights you seem to be having as a result. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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On 08/11/2007, Rohan Omard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > can still see the drive, it would not mount. It gave me some error about > improper shutdown or it still being in use. Also something about ntfs and a Post precise error messages. > 1.) The drive mounts and is able to be accessed normally from a Feisty Live > (DvD). So it's a perfectly good drive and free of errors? You're quite sure of this? > 2.)The drive is visible but is not mounted, neither can it be accessed on > the Gutsy Live (Cd) without forcing (something I am not prepared to do at > this juncture as the data held on it is to important to me to risk > corruption). 3.)The drive causes a virgin Feisty installation to a IDE hard > drive to freeze at the Ubuntu splash window, if it is connected to the > Highpoint RocketRaid 1540 interface card at boot up (* please note that it > will only cause a boot freeze if connected to ports 1 or 2 on the interface > card - If connected to ports 3 or 4 it will boot normally, however the drive > is not visible inside either ubuntu Feisty or Gutsy if the the OS is > installed on a hard drive). If the data is that important to you, you'll have it backed up. You issue with it locking your machine if it's connected to specific ports sounds like a fairly major bug the drive is legit. Nothing on any of the bug trackers about issues with this controller? Amusing choice of signatures and email addresses by the way. -- Steve When 1 person suffers from a delusion it is insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Religion. 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Why did you all ignore me........................
I posted this and no one replied. I've met Alan Pope and Dave Walker at the gutsy party as well as Mark Shuttleworth who tried to help me out also. Please does anyoen have a clue to the below. Ok, some additional information. It seems that I got it wrong in the previous post. The feisty live(DvD) does indeed have two entries for the HPT374 module, one of which is linked to the HPT366 driver. What is curious (not to mention damn infuriating as well), is that I can see the drive connected when I boot up from the Feisty Live(DvD) and I can access all the content. However, today I booted up from a Gutsy Live (CD) and although I can still see the drive, it would not mount. It gave me some error about improper shutdown or it still being in use. Also something about ntfs and a very concise option on how to force mount it (at my own risk) if I so wished. So, in conclusion for this post. 1.) The drive mounts and is able to be accessed normally from a Feisty Live (DvD). 2.)The drive is visible but is not mounted, neither can it be accessed on the Gutsy Live (Cd) without forcing (something I am not prepared to do at this juncture as the data held on it is to important to me to risk corruption). 3.)The drive causes a virgin Feisty installation to a IDE hard drive to freeze at the Ubuntu splash window, if it is connected to the Highpoint RocketRaid 1540 interface card at boot up (* please note that it will only cause a boot freeze if connected to ports 1 or 2 on the interface card - If connected to ports 3 or 4 it will boot normally, however the drive is not visible inside either ubuntu Feisty or Gutsy if the the OS is installed on a hard drive). Has anyone got any idea why I can see and use the drive connected to port 1 or 2 on the Highpoint Rocket Raid 1540 SATA , when using the Feisty Live (DvD) but it will not work on either the Gutsy Live (Cd) or either Feisty or Gutsy installed on an IDE hard drive? Please help me someone as this is causing me sleepless nights and I dont know enough about linux or Ubuntu yet to try compiling the source HPT374 driver from Highpoint, yet. Nuff respect to all the good work all of you do both here and elsewhere, in promoting this wonderful (if sometimes frustrating) OS. Regards N3m3sis (Rohan O'mard) - Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
