Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD
Oh my bad, I just assumed that it was as I'd just downloaded the Win7 32Bit ISO from Digital River, who Microsoft use for a lot of their big downloads, to dual boot a Netbook with Ubuntu. (It already had Win7 Starter on, but I broke it) If they do it for Win7 can't see an issue with XP. I assume the ISO download is no longer available as they have discontinued support of XP? They do provide the XP installation files for floppy, if that's any use to anyone anymore. Regards James - SJ Computers www.sj-computers.com Mob: 07951 237630 -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Alan Pope Sent: 08 June 2010 16:15 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD Hi James, On 5 June 2010 16:29, James - SJ Computers ja...@sj-computers.com wrote: I'm pretty sure that Microsoft don't have issues with the duplication of their disks. It's the licences that matter. After all, Microsoft even offer an option to download the ISO direct from them: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2fcde6ce-b5fb-4488- 8c50-fe22559d164edisplaylang=en That's not an OS install ISO, it's merely a service pack packaged on an ISO image. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2925 - Release Date: 06/08/10 07:35:00 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD
Hi All, I'm pretty sure that Microsoft don't have issues with the duplication of their disks. It's the licences that matter. After all, Microsoft even offer an option to download the ISO direct from them: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2fcde6ce-b5fb-4488- 8c50-fe22559d164edisplaylang=en Just my two cents Regards James - SJ Computers www.sj-computers.com Mob: 07951 237630 From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Nigel Verity Sent: 05 June 2010 13:14 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD Hi Guys I would caution that just because Microsoft (or any other software supplier for that matter) says that a particular action constitutes a copyright infringement does not necessarily make it legally true. For the time being at least, the law of the land ultimately overrides a EULA. Nige No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2919 - Release Date: 06/05/10 07:25:00 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD
Hi James, On 5 June 2010 16:29, James - SJ Computers ja...@sj-computers.com wrote: I'm pretty sure that Microsoft don't have issues with the duplication of their disks. It's the licences that matter. After all, Microsoft even offer an option to download the ISO direct from them: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2fcde6ce-b5fb-4488-8c50-fe22559d164edisplaylang=en That's not an OS install ISO, it's merely a service pack packaged on an ISO image. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD
Hi Guys I would caution that just because Microsoft (or any other software supplier for that matter) says that a particular action constitutes a copyright infringement does not necessarily make it legally true. For the time being at least, the law of the land ultimately overrides a EULA. Nige -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD
Hi Guys Haven't been on the list in ages! Hope everyone is well and enjoying 10.04 as much as I am :-) I'm trying to fix a Computer of a friend of mine and it has Windows XP Home edition on it. I only have a copy of Windows XP Professional. I'm desperately in need of a XP Home Edition CD. Does anybody have a copy of one floating around they could post to me? I have a product registration key on the bottom of his Laptop, but need the cd to repair his install. I would try convert him to Ubuntu, but he wasn't buying it :-( Cheers --Michael _ Michael Fletcher Interested in Linux? Then visit - http://www.ilovemylinux.com Follow me at - http://twitter.com/big_fletch -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD
On 04/06/10 17:47, Michael G Fletcher wrote: Hi Guys Haven't been on the list in ages! Hope everyone is well and enjoying 10.04 as much as I am :-) I'm trying to fix a Computer of a friend of mine and it has Windows XP Home edition on it. I only have a copy of Windows XP Professional. I'm desperately in need of a XP Home Edition CD. Does anybody have a copy of one floating around they could post to me? I have a product registration key on the bottom of his Laptop, but need the cd to repair his install. I would try convert him to Ubuntu, but he wasn't buying it :-( Cheers --Michael What make is his laptop? Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD
What make is his laptop? Rob -- A Dell Inspiron 6000... trying to save his 38GB of music :-( I got it to the point where it loads the Welcome screen, but when I logon the user, it just automatically logs me out again. I can get into the safe-mode with command prompt, and tried to install SP3, but doesn't seem to want to install! Michael -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD
On 04/06/10 19:11, Michael G Fletcher wrote: What make is his laptop? Rob A Dell Inspiron 6000... trying to save his 38GB of music :-( I got it to the point where it loads the Welcome screen, but when I logon the user, it just automatically logs me out again. I can get into the safe-mode with command prompt, and tried to install SP3, but doesn't seem to want to install! Michael You'll probably find that a standard Windows XP CD won't work (that is, an OEM copy of Windows XP). You'll need a specific Dell version which is tied to the Dell BIOS (funnily enough doing it this way any Dell Windows XP CD should work). If you e-mail me off list I might possibly be able to help. In the mean time, if he hasn't got an external hard drive, I'd suggest he gets one (I bought a 1TB Western Digital USB 2 hard drive yesterday from PC World for £60 using their collect from store option when reserving it on the web site). Then try booting from an Ubuntu CD and you should be able to mount his hard drive and copy any data, pictures, music etc off the drive. At least that way his data is backed up. Then TBH I'd suggest maybe wiping the lot and starting from scratch. I've done repair installs of Windows before but they've never really worked that well. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD
Michael, i have a burnt Windows XP Home CD due to the fact that mine actually snapped As long as you use the officially licensed product key, it is legal, i can post it if you like as i no longer have a need for it. An OEM copy of XP will work, its just a case of having the drivers. If it has a SATA harddrive you may need to include the correct SATA drivers onto the disk before installation. Dan On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: On 04/06/10 19:11, Michael G Fletcher wrote: What make is his laptop? Rob A Dell Inspiron 6000... trying to save his 38GB of music :-( I got it to the point where it loads the Welcome screen, but when I logon the user, it just automatically logs me out again. I can get into the safe-mode with command prompt, and tried to install SP3, but doesn't seem to want to install! Michael You'll probably find that a standard Windows XP CD won't work (that is, an OEM copy of Windows XP). You'll need a specific Dell version which is tied to the Dell BIOS (funnily enough doing it this way any Dell Windows XP CD should work). If you e-mail me off list I might possibly be able to help. In the mean time, if he hasn't got an external hard drive, I'd suggest he gets one (I bought a 1TB Western Digital USB 2 hard drive yesterday from PC World for £60 using their collect from store option when reserving it on the web site). Then try booting from an Ubuntu CD and you should be able to mount his hard drive and copy any data, pictures, music etc off the drive. At least that way his data is backed up. Then TBH I'd suggest maybe wiping the lot and starting from scratch. I've done repair installs of Windows before but they've never really worked that well. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD
Hi Daniel/all On 4 June 2010 19:33, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com wrote: As long as you use the officially licensed product key, it is legal, i can post it if you like as i no longer have a need for it. Ugh. Remember where you are. This is an Ubuntu list and it's not really the done thing for us to be discussing/arranging duplication of other peoples copyrighted work - even if it is Microsoft. Whilst some people might consider it 'ok' to copy an XP CD the fact is it most definitely is not 'legal' by any stretch. The contents of the CD is copyrighted work, and without permission from the copyright owner you should not be making copies. I appreciate the predicament that the original poster is in, and understand how frustrating it is to be in that position, this list is not the place to discuss / arrange that kind of thing. I'd appreciate it if these conversations were taken elsewhere. Thanks, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD
On 04/06/10 19:38, Alan Pope wrote: Hi Daniel/all On 4 June 2010 19:33, Daniel Casedanielcas...@googlemail.com wrote: As long as you use the officially licensed product key, it is legal, i can post it if you like as i no longer have a need for it. Ugh. Remember where you are. This is an Ubuntu list and it's not really the done thing for us to be discussing/arranging duplication of other peoples copyrighted work - even if it is Microsoft. Fair enough it is really a bit OT, I've sent an e-mail off list. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD
Rob In all honesty, you will stand a better chance of saving your friends 38 GiB of music by using an Ubuntu Live CD (or similar) than you will with a Win XP disc. Personally I would boot the machine from the live CD and then copy the data off to a safe media. Then you can re-install Windows once the data is safe. It would be safer than letting a Windows CD inadvertently hose the partition (and the music) for you. Stu On 4 June 2010 20:06, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: On 04/06/10 19:38, Alan Pope wrote: Hi Daniel/all On 4 June 2010 19:33, Daniel Casedanielcas...@googlemail.com wrote: As long as you use the officially licensed product key, it is legal, i can post it if you like as i no longer have a need for it. Ugh. Remember where you are. This is an Ubuntu list and it's not really the done thing for us to be discussing/arranging duplication of other peoples copyrighted work - even if it is Microsoft. Fair enough it is really a bit OT, I've sent an e-mail off list. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD
Hi Everyone Please accept my apologies, I posted to the list as I reckoned most were experienced computer users and would probably have an old copy of windows floating around which they were no longer using seeing as they were Ubuntu users. Alan, please note I was not fully aware of the copyright issues and thought that having an original Registration Code would be enough to cover this. I am firm believer against copyright theft, and am now better educated. Sorry again for the OT posting and very irrelevant posting! Have a lovely weekend in the sun --Michael -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD
Alan, I was not aware either that it was copyright theft to use another CD with your original license. Infact, i thought the following was true: ttp://download.microsoft.com/download/9/A/9/9A90E11E-43A3-4E7E-A919-961AF15820CA/Refurbished%20PC%20License%20Guide.pdf According to this, any PC that isn't brand new that you are performing a reinstall on is classed as a refurbished PC. From the file: http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/A/9/9A90E11E-43A3-4E7E-A919-961AF15820CA/Refurbished%20PC%20License%20Guide.pdf A new Windows license is not required for a refurbished PC that has: (1) The original Certificate of Authenticity (COA) for a Windows operating system affixed to the PC, and (2) The original recovery media or hard-disk based recovery image associated with the PC. Therefore it is legal to install Windows from another disk? On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Michael G Fletcher mich...@ilovemylinux.com wrote: Hi Everyone Please accept my apologies, I posted to the list as I reckoned most were experienced computer users and would probably have an old copy of windows floating around which they were no longer using seeing as they were Ubuntu users. Alan, please note I was not fully aware of the copyright issues and thought that having an original Registration Code would be enough to cover this. I am firm believer against copyright theft, and am now better educated. Sorry again for the OT posting and very irrelevant posting! Have a lovely weekend in the sun --Michael -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD
On 4 June 2010 22:43, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com wrote: (2) The original recovery media or hard-disk based recovery image associated with the PC. How is a burnt Windows XP Home CD (your words) sent via post to someone either 'original recovery' or 'hard-disk based recovery image'? I'm not after an argument, but the fact is every single XP CD I have ever handled has 'DO NOT COPY' all over it. Besides which it's offtopic for this list. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD
On 4 June 2010 21:43, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com wrote: Alan, I was not aware either that it was copyright theft to use another CD with your original license. Infact, i thought the following was true: ttp://download.microsoft.com/download/9/A/9/9A90E11E-43A3-4E7E-A919-961AF15820CA/Refurbished%20PC%20License%20Guide.pdf According to this, any PC that isn't brand new that you are performing a reinstall on is classed as a refurbished PC. From the file: http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/A/9/9A90E11E-43A3-4E7E-A919-961AF15820CA/Refurbished%20PC%20License%20Guide.pdf A new Windows license is not required for a refurbished PC that has: (1) The original Certificate of Authenticity (COA) for a Windows operating system affixed to the PC, and (2) The original recovery media or hard-disk based recovery image associated with the PC. Therefore it is legal to install Windows from another disk? snip Surely not. *and*(2) the *original* recovery media or hard-disk based recovery image associated with the PC. -- Harry Rickards - ha...@linux.com Vote Lib Dem - Building a fairer Britain - http://libdems.org.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
