Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty upgrade safe enough for me?

2009-04-25 Thread Steve Cook 
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:50:27 +0100
Farran Lee  wrote:

> On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 14:19 +0100, Steve Cook wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:38:10 +0100
> > Farran Lee  wrote:
> > 
> > > hi all
> > > sorry to sound like I'm doubting Jaunty... I'm not, it's just I'm wary
> > > for a few reasons:
> > > 
> > > - I've had lots of trouble with upgrades before
> > > - my ubuntu currently installed has a few (several) weird issues
> > > - I'm about to start exams
> > > 
> > > So, would you say it's safe and stable enough for me to just click
> > > 'upgrade' and leave it? Perhaps there are files I could pastebin for you
> > > to check out, to see if my system will throw up errors?
> > > Sorry to be awkward :P I just don't have the time for a broken computer,
> > > yet I really would like to upgrade it
> > > 
> > > thanks :)
> > > ===
> > > Farran Lee
> > > I'm only 16 :P
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Steve Cook 
> > 
> 
> 
> umm... did you mean to write something in this one? :P
> ===
> Farran Lee
> I'm only 16 :P
> 

No, I was just demonstrating email to someone and pressed send without thinking.

I do however, agree with every one else.  Leave any upgrades until you've done 
your exams, as the 'Critical Needs Detector' will kick in and thrash your 
system ;-)


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty upgrade safe enough for me?

2009-04-25 Thread Rob Beard 
Farran Lee wrote:
>
> Welcome to the lists, Chris/RoboNuggie! :P
> yeash, this is my only desktop, I'm looking to get a laptop soon and I 
> was gunna have a triple-linux boot, but I never got round to it... I 
> guess that the safest option atm is just to wait. I was hopeful that 
> perhaps people knew if the installer had some kind of fail-safe that 
> fixed broken installations hehe... hmm I can wait. I want to play with 
> the new version, but I guess that's also a bad idea during exams. Cos 
> then I won't revise, and I'll be sat in the exam hall thinking about 
> the new things Ubuntu does - not good :) 

At least it gives you something to look forward to.  In the mean time 
you could always install something like Virtual Box and run it in a 
virtual machine (although as you say you'll probably be too busy playing 
with that rather then revising).

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty upgrade safe enough for me?

2009-04-25 Thread Harry Rickards 
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Farran Lee wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 14:14 +0100, Christopher Dalby wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 01:38:10PM +0100, Farran Lee wrote:
>> > hi all
>> > sorry to sound like I'm doubting Jaunty... I'm not, it's just I'm wary
>> > for a few reasons:
>> > 
>> > - I've had lots of trouble with upgrades before
>> > - my ubuntu currently installed has a few (several) weird issues
>> > - I'm about to start exams
>> > 
>> > So, would you say it's safe and stable enough for me to just click
>> > 'upgrade' and leave it? Perhaps there are files I could pastebin for you
>> > to check out, to see if my system will throw up errors?
>> > Sorry to be awkward :P I just don't have the time for a broken computer,
>> > yet I really would like to upgrade it
>> > 
>> > thanks :)
>> > ===
>> > Farran Lee
>> > I'm only 16 :P
>>
>> > -- 
>> > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com 
>> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all, Hi Farran!  (my first post to the mailing list, be gentle)
>>
>> I only upgrade via a fresh install from one LTS to another Im on
>> Hardy Heron 8.0.4.2, and previously on Dapper Drake I like
>> stability!  
>>
>> Besides, I use Fluxbox with mainly text/console apps, so the latest
>> and greatest doesn't really bother me...
>>
>> Sometimes it is better to wait and see how a new distro works out and
>> wait for the bugs to be ironed outespecially if you are on your
>> main and/or only desktop.
>>
>>
>> RoboNuggie
>>
> 
> Welcome to the lists, Chris/RoboNuggie! :P
> yeash, this is my only desktop, I'm looking to get a laptop soon and I
> was gunna have a triple-linux boot, but I never got round to it... I
> guess that the safest option atm is just to wait. I was hopeful that
> perhaps people knew if the installer had some kind of fail-safe that
> fixed broken installations hehe... hmm I can wait. I want to play with
> the new version, but I guess that's also a bad idea during exams. Cos
> then I won't revise, and I'll be sat in the exam hall thinking about the
> new things Ubuntu does - not good :)
> 

I hate to be unnecessarily picky, but would it be possible for you to
use plain text instead of HTML emails? You can find a guide on how-to do
that with Evolution (what I think is your mail program from the message
source) at http://email.about.com/cs/evolutiontips/qt/et070303.htm.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty upgrade safe enough for me?

2009-04-25 Thread Farran Lee 
On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 14:19 +0100, Steve Cook wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:38:10 +0100
> Farran Lee  wrote:
> 
> > hi all
> > sorry to sound like I'm doubting Jaunty... I'm not, it's just I'm wary
> > for a few reasons:
> > 
> > - I've had lots of trouble with upgrades before
> > - my ubuntu currently installed has a few (several) weird issues
> > - I'm about to start exams
> > 
> > So, would you say it's safe and stable enough for me to just click
> > 'upgrade' and leave it? Perhaps there are files I could pastebin for you
> > to check out, to see if my system will throw up errors?
> > Sorry to be awkward :P I just don't have the time for a broken computer,
> > yet I really would like to upgrade it
> > 
> > thanks :)
> > ===
> > Farran Lee
> > I'm only 16 :P
> > 
> 
> 
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> Steve Cook 
> 


umm... did you mean to write something in this one? :P
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty upgrade safe enough for me?

2009-04-25 Thread Farran Lee 
On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 14:14 +0100, Christopher Dalby wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 01:38:10PM +0100, Farran Lee wrote:
> > hi all
> > sorry to sound like I'm doubting Jaunty... I'm not, it's just I'm wary
> > for a few reasons:
> > 
> > - I've had lots of trouble with upgrades before
> > - my ubuntu currently installed has a few (several) weird issues
> > - I'm about to start exams
> > 
> > So, would you say it's safe and stable enough for me to just click
> > 'upgrade' and leave it? Perhaps there are files I could pastebin for you
> > to check out, to see if my system will throw up errors?
> > Sorry to be awkward :P I just don't have the time for a broken computer,
> > yet I really would like to upgrade it
> > 
> > thanks :)
> > ===
> > Farran Lee
> > I'm only 16 :P
> 
> > -- 
> > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all, Hi Farran!  (my first post to the mailing list, be gentle)
> 
> I only upgrade via a fresh install from one LTS to another Im on
> Hardy Heron 8.0.4.2, and previously on Dapper Drake I like
> stability!  
> 
> Besides, I use Fluxbox with mainly text/console apps, so the latest
> and greatest doesn't really bother me...
> 
> Sometimes it is better to wait and see how a new distro works out and
> wait for the bugs to be ironed outespecially if you are on your
> main and/or only desktop.
> 
> 
> RoboNuggie
> 


Welcome to the lists, Chris/RoboNuggie! :P
yeash, this is my only desktop, I'm looking to get a laptop soon and I
was gunna have a triple-linux boot, but I never got round to it... I
guess that the safest option atm is just to wait. I was hopeful that
perhaps people knew if the installer had some kind of fail-safe that
fixed broken installations hehe... hmm I can wait. I want to play with
the new version, but I guess that's also a bad idea during exams. Cos
then I won't revise, and I'll be sat in the exam hall thinking about the
new things Ubuntu does - not good :)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty upgrade safe enough for me?

2009-04-25 Thread Steve Cook 
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:38:10 +0100
Farran Lee  wrote:

> hi all
> sorry to sound like I'm doubting Jaunty... I'm not, it's just I'm wary
> for a few reasons:
> 
> - I've had lots of trouble with upgrades before
> - my ubuntu currently installed has a few (several) weird issues
> - I'm about to start exams
> 
> So, would you say it's safe and stable enough for me to just click
> 'upgrade' and leave it? Perhaps there are files I could pastebin for you
> to check out, to see if my system will throw up errors?
> Sorry to be awkward :P I just don't have the time for a broken computer,
> yet I really would like to upgrade it
> 
> thanks :)
> ===
> Farran Lee
> I'm only 16 :P
> 


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty upgrade safe enough for me?

2009-04-25 Thread Christopher Dalby 
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 01:38:10PM +0100, Farran Lee wrote:
> hi all
> sorry to sound like I'm doubting Jaunty... I'm not, it's just I'm wary
> for a few reasons:
> 
> - I've had lots of trouble with upgrades before
> - my ubuntu currently installed has a few (several) weird issues
> - I'm about to start exams
> 
> So, would you say it's safe and stable enough for me to just click
> 'upgrade' and leave it? Perhaps there are files I could pastebin for you
> to check out, to see if my system will throw up errors?
> Sorry to be awkward :P I just don't have the time for a broken computer,
> yet I really would like to upgrade it
> 
> thanks :)
> ===
> Farran Lee
> I'm only 16 :P

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Hi all, Hi Farran!  (my first post to the mailing list, be gentle)

I only upgrade via a fresh install from one LTS to another Im on
Hardy Heron 8.0.4.2, and previously on Dapper Drake I like
stability!  

Besides, I use Fluxbox with mainly text/console apps, so the latest
and greatest doesn't really bother me...

Sometimes it is better to wait and see how a new distro works out and
wait for the bugs to be ironed outespecially if you are on your
main and/or only desktop.


RoboNuggie

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty upgrade safe enough for me?

2009-04-25 Thread Rob Beard 
Farran Lee wrote:
> hi all
> sorry to sound like I'm doubting Jaunty... I'm not, it's just I'm wary 
> for a few reasons:
>
> - I've had lots of trouble with upgrades before
> - my ubuntu currently installed has a few (several) weird issues
> - I'm about to start exams
>
> So, would you say it's safe and stable enough for me to just click 
> 'upgrade' and leave it? Perhaps there are files I could pastebin for 
> you to check out, to see if my system will throw up errors?
> Sorry to be awkward :P I just don't have the time for a broken 
> computer, yet I really would like to upgrade it
>
> thanks :)
Well there's always a risk when upgrading, assuming you don't have 
anything non-standard (such as extra repositories) installed then you'd 
probably be fine.  But I guess it's a case of how desperate are you to 
upgrade?

If it's working fine at the moment and you can't afford downtime due to 
reinstalling then you might be worth leaving it for now (I presume your 
exams finish in the next couple of months anyway?).

One option which you may be able to do is boot from a Desktop CD and 
install alongside your existing installation.  Assuming you haven't got 
4 primary partitions at the moment (/dev/sdX1, 2, 3, 4) then you should 
be able to resize the existing installation of Ubuntu to make room for a 
new install.  Basically then you can dual boot both installations.

Might be adviseable though to backup anything important before trying 
this, just in case.

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty upgrade safe enough for me?

2009-04-25 Thread Farran Lee 
On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 13:46 +0100, mac wrote:

> Farran Lee wrote:
> 
> > - I've had lots of trouble with upgrades before
> > - my ubuntu currently installed has a few (several) weird issues
> > - I'm about to start exams
> 
> > Sorry to be awkward :P I just don't have the time for a broken computer,
> > yet I really would like to upgrade it
> 
> 
> If you have to get on with your work, and your computer is working well 
> just now, I'd suggest upgrading it *after* your exams!  (I didn't have 
> problems with the upgrade itself, but I've had some time-consuming 
> degradations in the handling of network shares and in graphics 
> performance - and I bet if you come across niggles, you'll spend hours 
> fixing them when you should be revising!!!)
> 
> mac
> 
> 


right ok then heh :( oh well... however, the 'upgrade' button is right
there.. :P
I won't press it.

and ftr, the broken kernel issue's come back :S weird
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty upgrade safe enough for me?

2009-04-25 Thread mac 
Farran Lee wrote:

> - I've had lots of trouble with upgrades before
> - my ubuntu currently installed has a few (several) weird issues
> - I'm about to start exams

> Sorry to be awkward :P I just don't have the time for a broken computer,
> yet I really would like to upgrade it


If you have to get on with your work, and your computer is working well 
just now, I'd suggest upgrading it *after* your exams!  (I didn't have 
problems with the upgrade itself, but I've had some time-consuming 
degradations in the handling of network shares and in graphics 
performance - and I bet if you come across niggles, you'll spend hours 
fixing them when you should be revising!!!)

mac


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[ubuntu-uk] jaunty upgrade safe enough for me?

2009-04-25 Thread Farran Lee 
hi all
sorry to sound like I'm doubting Jaunty... I'm not, it's just I'm wary
for a few reasons:

- I've had lots of trouble with upgrades before
- my ubuntu currently installed has a few (several) weird issues
- I'm about to start exams

So, would you say it's safe and stable enough for me to just click
'upgrade' and leave it? Perhaps there are files I could pastebin for you
to check out, to see if my system will throw up errors?
Sorry to be awkward :P I just don't have the time for a broken computer,
yet I really would like to upgrade it

thanks :)
===
Farran Lee
I'm only 16 :P
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