[ubuntu-uk] mount and fstab query

2010-07-15 Thread Bob Giles

Hi guys,

I always work on the theory that most problems are caused by the lowest 
common denominator  Me! However, this time I am not so sure.


There is probably a simple answer to my query but so far it has eluded 
me. I have added a line to /etc/fstab which originally mounted a couple 
of shares on my Netgear Duo NAS at bootup. It worked fine for a couple 
of days and has now stopped working. However, if I run sudo mount -a in 
terminal the shares mount as expected.


It may help solve this if I outline the background to this.

I am running 10.04 32bit. I have always been unable to access images 
which I have stored on the NAS in shared folders from programs such as 
Picasa, Gwenview or Digikam. I guess that I am not alone with that 
problem. After a lot of googling I found a 'solution' that was 
originally published in respect of version 7.10. I will summarise the 
'solution'.


1. Install smbfs
2. Create a folder inside /media. In my case /media/NASmedia
3. Create a credentials file in /root. (.cifscredentials) It contains 
passwords and is protected by the root account.
4. Edit .cifscredentials to contain username-USERNAME and 
password=PASSWORD. Save and close the file.

5. Edit /etc/fstab and add the following line at the end of the file:

//192.168.1.15/SHARENAME /media/Storage cifs 
auto,iocharset=utf8,uid=USER,gid=users,credentials=/root/.cifscredentials,file_mode=0775,dir_mode=0775
 0 0

NB. 192.168.1.15 is the IP address of my NAS
   SHARENAME is the share name to mount.
   USER is my Ubuntu username.

The file_mode=0775,dir_mode=0775 part sets the mounted directory as 
read/write for all users so long as the SMB username you set in 
.cifscredentials has read/write access.


Once saved, the system would display a drive icon for the mounted share 
and it was accessible to all programs after running sudo mount -a or 
upon reboot.


Now it only works if I run sudo mount -a after bootup.

Any ideas?

TIA

Bob Giles

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] mount and fstab query

2010-07-15 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 15/07/10 07:36, Bob Giles wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I always work on the theory that most problems are caused by the lowest
 common denominator  Me! However, this time I am not so sure.

Any errors reported in, for example, /var/log/syslog or /var/log/samba/...?

My first thought was a timing issue, i.e. the cifs kernel module isn't 
loading quickly enough. I'm not sure if this is the right avenue at all 
but one I would try and check.

Have you changed anything (updated s/w) on either system recently? For 
example I recently upgraded my home server to 10.04 and a change to the 
samba stack stopped my Wife's WindowsXP VM (just for iTunes) working, 
but didn't affect anything else. It only required a minor change 
(forcing Samba to be a WINS server) but just to illustrate a point.

There are few pointers here that might help too: 
http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Filesystems/Mounting_smbfs_Shares_Permanently.html

HTH

Al

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] mount and fstab query

2010-07-15 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On Thursday 15 July 2010 07:36:24 Bob Giles wrote:
 There is probably a simple answer to my query but so far it has eluded
 me. I have added a line to /etc/fstab which originally mounted a couple
 of shares on my Netgear Duo NAS at bootup. It worked fine for a couple
 of days and has now stopped working. However, if I run sudo mount -a in
 terminal the shares mount as expected.

Is networking available at boot-time? Or only after you login? Does mountall 
run before networking starts? One difference since Ubuntu 7.10 is the addition 
of network manager and when networking starts (on bootup versus on login).

The easiest solution is to script a sudo mount /media/Storage as part of 
your login.

Regards,
Tyler

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] mount and fstab query

2010-07-15 Thread ByteSoup

On 15/07/10 07:36, Bob Giles wrote:


Now it only works if I run sudo mount -a after bootup.

Any ideas?

TIA

Bob Giles


Hi Bob,

I dont think my problem is similar to yours but I made a post on the 
Ubuntu forums a while back using Xubuntu:


http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=915939

It might help you

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] mount and fstab query

2010-07-15 Thread Bob Giles

On 15/07/10 11:27, ByteSoup wrote:

On 15/07/10 07:36, Bob Giles wrote:


Now it only works if I run sudo mount -a after bootup.

Any ideas?



== Snip ==

Alan, Tyler and Mark,

Thank you all for your suggestions and references. This does indeed 
appear to be a timing problem.


The power supply here in Greece where I live has been particularly 
tiresome lately and as a result, everything gets powered down overnight. 
Tyler's suggestion seems to be the way to go. I did not realise that 
networking started on bootup as opposed to login.


Thanks again to you all for your time.

Regards,

Bob Giles

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] mount and fstab query

2010-07-15 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On Thursday 15 July 2010 19:19:18 Bob Giles wrote:
 Thank you all for your suggestions and references. This does indeed
 appear to be a timing problem.
 
 The power supply here in Greece where I live has been particularly
 tiresome lately and as a result, everything gets powered down overnight.
 Tyler's suggestion seems to be the way to go. I did not realise that
 networking started on bootup as opposed to login.

To be exact, basic networking (localhost) starts at boot. Networking by cable 
MAY start at boot, but usually at login. Wireless only starts at login as it 
needs access to your keyring to get the key.

But mounting from fstab always happens at boot.

Tyler

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only that which it cannot see to the bottom, the crowd is so timid and 
afraid of going into the water.
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