Re: [ubuntu-uk] special characters for french in ubuntu and open-office
On 2008-04-01, Tony Arnold wrote: > Adam, > > Adam Funk wrote: > >> I wasn't aware of this! For years I've been using >> >> Option "XkbOptions""compose:rwin" >> >> in the keyboard stanza of xorg.conf (and its pre-xorg equivalent). Is >> there any reason not to do it that way if I'm used to those >> keybindings? >> >> In any case, for a while now (a year?) on Ubuntu, my rwin compose key >> has not worked in Thunderbird, and I tried the AltGr combinations >> above. Does anyone know why Thunderbird interferes with composing >> characters, and how to make it cooperate? > > It works for me in Thunderbird! But I set the compose key to the menu > key using System->Preferences->Keyboard->Layout Options. I'm using Gnome. I'm using XFCE, and I've got a "Settings -> Keyboard Settings -> Layouts" configuration dialog available. I'll investigate that further. It may well be the case that I'm re-using old stuff without realizing that a better way is now available. That's happened to me before. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] special characters for french in ubuntu and open-office
Adam, Adam Funk wrote: > I wasn't aware of this! For years I've been using > > Option "XkbOptions""compose:rwin" > > in the keyboard stanza of xorg.conf (and its pre-xorg equivalent). Is > there any reason not to do it that way if I'm used to those > keybindings? > > In any case, for a while now (a year?) on Ubuntu, my rwin compose key > has not worked in Thunderbird, and I tried the AltGr combinations > above. Does anyone know why Thunderbird interferes with composing > characters, and how to make it cooperate? It works for me in Thunderbird! But I set the compose key to the menu key using System->Preferences->Keyboard->Layout Options. I'm using Gnome. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED], H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] special characters for french in ubuntu and open-office
On 2008-03-30, Wulfy wrote: > I have the United Kingdom gb Generic 105-key (Intl) PC and I can get > (almost) all the European language characters. > > Try pressing ; e which should give é. If it does, the other > accents are on the punctuation keys around the right end of the keyboard. > > Use like you use the shift key... > > ";" gives acute > "'" gives circumflex > "#" gives grave > "[" gives umlaut > "]" gives tilde > "=" gives cedila > > There are (lots) more but you can find them yourself... :@) > > [Hint: letter gives capitals as normal like É... > gives different accents...] I wasn't aware of this! For years I've been using Option "XkbOptions""compose:rwin" in the keyboard stanza of xorg.conf (and its pre-xorg equivalent). Is there any reason not to do it that way if I'm used to those keybindings? In any case, for a while now (a year?) on Ubuntu, my rwin compose key has not worked in Thunderbird, and I tried the AltGr combinations above. Does anyone know why Thunderbird interferes with composing characters, and how to make it cooperate? Thanks, Adam -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] special characters for french in ubuntu and open-office
Wulfy wrote: > Try pressing ; e which should give é. If it does, the other > accents are on the punctuation keys around the right end of the keyboard. This works for me under both Hardy and Dapper. The trick is to remember the ; (semicolon) first. Ie. hold down AltGr, press semicolon (;), release AltGr, then press the letter you want. > Use like you use the shift key... > > ";" gives acute > "'" gives circumflex > "#" gives grave > "[" gives umlaut > "]" gives tilde > "=" gives cedila -- Andrew Oakley -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] special characters for french in ubuntu and open-office
Stephen O'Neill wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Wulfy wrote: > | Try pressing ; e which should give é. If it does, the other > | accents are on the punctuation keys around the right end of the keyboard. > > > This does not work for me and hasn't in the 4 years or so that I've been > using Linux (Fedora and Ubuntu). > > AltGr+e gives e > Ctrl+Alt+e gives e > Try AltGr+; then e... just using AltGr+e gives me "e", too... > This is true for Open Office. It is also true for Text Editor and > Thunderbird except that Ctrl+Alt produces no text output. > It works in OO.o Writer for me... > Seeing as we're on this topic I'd be grateful for any suggestions as > it's a problem that's bugged me for years but never managed to track down. > > My keyboard layout is Generic 105-key (Intl) PC according to > System->Preferences->Keyboard. > Hmmm... one wrinkle is I'm using Kubuntu rather than Ubuntu... I thought, perhaps, it's a difference at that level but I just tried it in console () and it works there, too. > I have just tried Tony's "Compose key" approach which does actually work > for me (thank you Tony!). It would be nice to get AltGr working for the > more common accents but "Compose" is clearly more robust. I don't know why it's not working for you. I found this almost by accident as I was looking to find a way to type accented characters and specials like "æ", "ð" and "þ"... -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] special characters for french in ubuntu and open-office
> OK, I'm writing a piece of coursework for french, and I can insert â, > é etc by going in open-office "insert > special character", but this > is a bit irritating when you need to keep doing it. Is there a way to > make a keyboard shorcut for special characters? Along with all the suggestions that have been given have you the French dictionary installed? I know it is not the complete answer but it is very helpful in lots of cases. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] special characters for french in ubuntu and open-office
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony Arnold wrote: | Did you type the semi-colon as well? Just to be clear, it's hold down | the AltGr, press the semi-colon, release and type the e. Ah, cheers Tony. I was indeed missing the semi-colon. Years of ingrained Windows behaviour blinded me to the instructions. Thanks to Alan too for introducing me to the locale command, I am indeed using LANG=en_GB.UTF-8. And I can now get ê ě. Marvellous stuff. A four year itch thoroughly scratched. - -- Stephen O'Neill w: http://www.thefloatingfrog.co.uk/ e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH72lcJ+Auntu1v4QRApoXAJ478CWXvwgUSPQTUNY8w7zfwJ6GXACbBnI2 1iVLOBRJJXkjCHRGVHb/2fk= =rpTH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] special characters for french in ubuntu and open-office
Stephen, Stephen O'Neill wrote: > Wulfy wrote: > | Try pressing ; e which should give é. If it does, the other > | accents are on the punctuation keys around the right end of the keyboard. > > > This does not work for me and hasn't in the 4 years or so that I've been > using Linux (Fedora and Ubuntu). > > AltGr+e gives e > Ctrl+Alt+e gives e Did you type the semi-colon as well? Just to be clear, it's hold down the AltGr, press the semi-colon, release and type the e. > I have just tried Tony's "Compose key" approach which does actually work > for me (thank you Tony!). It would be nice to get AltGr working for the > more common accents but "Compose" is clearly more robust. You are welcome. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED], H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] special characters for french in ubuntu and open-office
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 10:37:50AM +0100, Stephen O'Neill wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Wulfy wrote: > | Try pressing ; e which should give é. If it does, the other > | accents are on the punctuation keys around the right end of the keyboard. > > > This does not work for me and hasn't in the 4 years or so that I've been > using Linux (Fedora and Ubuntu). > > AltGr+e gives e AltGr+e gives e here too, however > Ctrl+Alt+e gives e > Try AltGr+Shift+', then keeping AltGr down but releasing shift, press e.. I get ě, if I dont hold shift at all I get ê. What do you get as the first line from the locale command? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locale LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] special characters for french in ubuntu and open-office
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wulfy wrote: | Try pressing ; e which should give é. If it does, the other | accents are on the punctuation keys around the right end of the keyboard. This does not work for me and hasn't in the 4 years or so that I've been using Linux (Fedora and Ubuntu). AltGr+e gives e Ctrl+Alt+e gives e This is true for Open Office. It is also true for Text Editor and Thunderbird except that Ctrl+Alt produces no text output. Seeing as we're on this topic I'd be grateful for any suggestions as it's a problem that's bugged me for years but never managed to track down. My keyboard layout is Generic 105-key (Intl) PC according to System->Preferences->Keyboard. I have just tried Tony's "Compose key" approach which does actually work for me (thank you Tony!). It would be nice to get AltGr working for the more common accents but "Compose" is clearly more robust. - -- Stephen O'Neill w: http://www.thefloatingfrog.co.uk/ e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH719sJ+Auntu1v4QRApGYAJ4zrJfZebUG5bnF0BM1EEMUx9NLEACfdTjV Hqaia5SPoWa+apRE6ByngwE= =5r7B -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] special characters for french in ubuntu and open-office
James, James Grabham wrote: > > OK, I'm writing a piece of coursework for french, and I can insert â, é > etc by going in open-office "insert > special character", but this is a > bit irritating when you need to keep doing it. Is there a way to make a > keyboard shorcut for special characters? I know you've had some suggestions already, but, if you are using Gnome, another way is to define a 'compose' key. You can do that in System->Keyboard->Layout Options. I've defined mine as the menu key. You can then construct accented characters by holding down the compose key and typing e ', to get é, o ^ to get ô, etc. The combinations are all fairly intuitive. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED], H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] special characters for french in ubuntu and open-office
James Grabham wrote: > > OK, I'm writing a piece of coursework for french, and I can insert â, > é etc by going in open-office "insert > special character", but this > is a bit irritating when you need to keep doing it. Is there a way to > make a keyboard shorcut for special characters? > > Thanks > > James Which keyboard layout do you have now? I have the United Kingdom gb Generic 105-key (Intl) PC and I can get (almost) all the European language characters. Try pressing ; e which should give é. If it does, the other accents are on the punctuation keys around the right end of the keyboard. Use like you use the shift key... ";" gives acute "'" gives circumflex "#" gives grave "[" gives umlaut "]" gives tilde "=" gives cedila There are (lots) more but you can find them yourself... :@) [Hint: letter gives capitals as normal like É... gives different accents...] HTH -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] special characters for french in ubuntu and open-office
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:12 AM, James Grabham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK, I'm writing a piece of coursework for french, and I can insert â, é etc > by going in open-office "insert > special character", but this is a bit > irritating when you need to keep doing it. Is there a way to make a > keyboard shorcut for special characters? > > Thanks > > James Hi, from what I remember you can use Ctrl+alt+(letter) like I can do áéíóú with that, but I don't know about the others... -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] special characters for french in ubuntu and open-office
OK, I'm writing a piece of coursework for french, and I can insert â, é etc by going in open-office "insert > special character", but this is a bit irritating when you need to keep doing it. Is there a way to make a keyboard shorcut for special characters? Thanks James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
