Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Jon Reynolds]

On Tue, 03 May 2011 11:26:01 +0100, Jon Reynolds wrote:

Well, This is a bit of a rant I'm afraid... need to vent.


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Well, well, well

A completely wiped netbook and a fresh install of 11.04 and. wifi 
works! Out the box!


Am just afraid to do an apt-get upgrade now :/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Mark Fraser]

On Wednesday 04 May 2011 13:08:35 Jon Reynolds wrote:
>  On Wed, 4 May 2011 14:51:49 +0300, Dave Rice wrote:
> > OK,
> > 
> > here are some links that I found useful!
> > 
> > The method I used, admittedly it was on a Maverick based distro, was
> > to update the kernel from here:
> > 
> > http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ [14]
> > 
> > and the install the samsung-wireless package from here:
> > 
> > https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/ppa [15]
> > 
> > once updated you may have to blacklist the built it drivers:
> > 
> > sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
> > 
> > and add the following lines:
> > 
> > blacklist r8192e_pci
> > 
> >  _blacklist r8192se_pci_
> > 
> > Not tried it with natty yet, you may just have to use the voria ppa.
> > You may want to try updating the kernel to the oneiric or the Natty
> > 2.6.39-rc4 (current) and add the voria ppa too. - this is a bit risky
> > so your system may not survive !!! ;)
> > 
> > There is a surprising amount of info out there as the samsung netbook
> > is a popular one, it's a good little machine ;)
> > 
> > here are some links with useful info on, in no particular order:
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.sammynetbook.com/forum/threads/14952-My-adventures-in-Linux-La
> > nd-Ubuntu-on-the-N210 [16]
> > 
> >  http://www.stewartpratt.com/?p=443 [17]
> > 
> > http://seaborne.blogspot.com/2010/07/ubuntu-on-samsung-n210.html [18]
> > 
> > Hope that helps a little,
> > 
> > cheers
> 
>  Thanks for all the ideas and help!
> 
>  When I re-format the netbook, I actually think I will stick with 10,04
>  or 10,10 as they worked... think I will leave 11,04 mature a bit more.
>  shame, but there we are.
> 
>  Cheers again.

I know what you mean, I've upgraded to Kubuntu 11.04 on 2 laptops and both 
have different bugs in them. Wireless works fine with one of them, but not the 
other, display problems etc.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Jon Reynolds]

On Wed, 4 May 2011 14:51:49 +0300, Dave Rice wrote:

OK,

here are some links that I found useful!

The method I used, admittedly it was on a Maverick based distro, was
to update the kernel from here:

http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ [14]

and the install the samsung-wireless package from here:

https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/ppa [15]

once updated you may have to blacklist the built it drivers:

sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf

and add the following lines:

blacklist r8192e_pci
 _blacklist r8192se_pci_

Not tried it with natty yet, you may just have to use the voria ppa.
You may want to try updating the kernel to the oneiric or the Natty
2.6.39-rc4 (current) and add the voria ppa too. - this is a bit risky
so your system may not survive !!! ;)

There is a surprising amount of info out there as the samsung netbook
is a popular one, it's a good little machine ;)

here are some links with useful info on, in no particular order:


http://www.sammynetbook.com/forum/threads/14952-My-adventures-in-Linux-Land-Ubuntu-on-the-N210
[16]
 http://www.stewartpratt.com/?p=443 [17]
http://seaborne.blogspot.com/2010/07/ubuntu-on-samsung-n210.html [18]

Hope that helps a little,

cheers


Thanks for all the ideas and help!

When I re-format the netbook, I actually think I will stick with 10,04 
or 10,10 as they worked... think I will leave 11,04 mature a bit more. 
shame, but there we are.


Cheers again.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Dave Rice]

OK,

here are some links that I found useful!

The method I used, admittedly it was on a Maverick based distro, was to
update the kernel from here:

http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/

and the install the samsung-wireless package from here:

https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/ppa

once updated you may have to blacklist the built it drivers:

sudo gedit */etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf

*and add the following lines:
*
blacklist r8192e_pci*
*blacklist r8192se_pci*

Not tried it with natty yet, you may just have to use the voria ppa. You may
want to try updating the kernel to the oneiric or the Natty 2.6.39-rc4
(current) and add the voria ppa too. - this is a bit risky so your system
may not survive !!! ;)

There is a surprising amount of info out there as the samsung netbook is a
popular one, it's a good little machine ;)

here are some links with useful info on, in no particular order:

http://www.sammynetbook.com/forum/threads/14952-My-adventures-in-Linux-Land-Ubuntu-on-the-N210
http://www.stewartpratt.com/?p=443
http://seaborne.blogspot.com/2010/07/ubuntu-on-samsung-n210.html

Hope that helps a little,

cheers



On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Les Pounder  wrote:

> I have an N130, I ran 11.04 (fresh install) for about a day, WIFI was
> really patchy out of the box, so I installed the voria ppa.n Unfortunately
> still really patchy WIFI.
>
> I've reverted back to 10.04, using the Voria PPA and everything is back to
> normal.
>
> Les
>
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Dave Rice  wrote:
>
>> Trouble is, I tried that on a fresh install on a n210 and it didn't work!
>>
>> I'll write down the steps I did in a minute and post it here once I’ve
>> found all the links
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Alan Pope  wrote:
>>
>>> On 4 May 2011 11:52, Jon Reynolds  wrote:
>>> > On Wed, 4 May 2011 10:44:02 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10487458&postcount=34
>>> >>
>>> >> Looks like that solves it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Al.
>>> >
>>> > Hmm, I have already tried that procedure. This is what worries me, I
>>> have
>>> > tried multiple solutions and wonder if they are all now conflicting
>>> with
>>> > each other. I think a fresh install, then that ^ solution is best route
>>> to
>>> > try...
>>> >
>>>
>>> Sounds like a plan.
>>>
>>> Al.
>>>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Les Pounder]

I have an N130, I ran 11.04 (fresh install) for about a day, WIFI was really
patchy out of the box, so I installed the voria ppa.n Unfortunately still
really patchy WIFI.

I've reverted back to 10.04, using the Voria PPA and everything is back to
normal.

Les

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Dave Rice  wrote:

> Trouble is, I tried that on a fresh install on a n210 and it didn't work!
>
> I'll write down the steps I did in a minute and post it here once I’ve
> found all the links
>
> cheers
>
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Alan Pope  wrote:
>
>> On 4 May 2011 11:52, Jon Reynolds  wrote:
>> > On Wed, 4 May 2011 10:44:02 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
>> >>
>> >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10487458&postcount=34
>> >>
>> >> Looks like that solves it.
>> >>
>> >> Al.
>> >
>> > Hmm, I have already tried that procedure. This is what worries me, I
>> have
>> > tried multiple solutions and wonder if they are all now conflicting with
>> > each other. I think a fresh install, then that ^ solution is best route
>> to
>> > try...
>> >
>>
>> Sounds like a plan.
>>
>> Al.
>>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Dave Rice]

Trouble is, I tried that on a fresh install on a n210 and it didn't work!

I'll write down the steps I did in a minute and post it here once I’ve found
all the links

cheers

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Alan Pope  wrote:

> On 4 May 2011 11:52, Jon Reynolds  wrote:
> > On Wed, 4 May 2011 10:44:02 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
> >>
> >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10487458&postcount=34
> >>
> >> Looks like that solves it.
> >>
> >> Al.
> >
> > Hmm, I have already tried that procedure. This is what worries me, I have
> > tried multiple solutions and wonder if they are all now conflicting with
> > each other. I think a fresh install, then that ^ solution is best route
> to
> > try...
> >
>
> Sounds like a plan.
>
> Al.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Alan Pope]

On 4 May 2011 11:52, Jon Reynolds  wrote:
> On Wed, 4 May 2011 10:44:02 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
>>
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10487458&postcount=34
>>
>> Looks like that solves it.
>>
>> Al.
>
> Hmm, I have already tried that procedure. This is what worries me, I have
> tried multiple solutions and wonder if they are all now conflicting with
> each other. I think a fresh install, then that ^ solution is best route to
> try...
>

Sounds like a plan.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Jon Reynolds]

On Wed, 4 May 2011 10:44:02 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:


http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10487458&postcount=34

Looks like that solves it.

Al.


Hmm, I have already tried that procedure. This is what worries me, I 
have tried multiple solutions and wonder if they are all now conflicting 
with each other. I think a fresh install, then that ^ solution is best 
route to try...


Thanks.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Alan Pope]

On 4 May 2011 10:38, Jon Reynolds  wrote:
> Would an upgrade turn WiFi off in the bios?? If not then it shouldn't be
> off, as I have been using this netbook for a few years now with wifi with
> Ubuntu and XP.
>
> BTW WiFi is still working when I boot into XP.
>

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10487458&postcount=34

Looks like that solves it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Jon Reynolds]

On Wed, 4 May 2011 10:30:46 +0100, John Stevenson wrote:



The "wifi" light often doubles as a bluetooth light on laptops /
netbooks.  Have you checked that the WiFi is enabled in the bios of
the machine, perhaps disabling bluetooth as well to see if the light
still comes on. 

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Would an upgrade turn WiFi off in the bios?? If not then it shouldn't 
be off, as I have been using this netbook for a few years now with wifi 
with Ubuntu and XP.


BTW WiFi is still working when I boot into XP.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[John Stevenson]

On 4 May 2011 09:54, Jon Reynolds  wrote:

> On Wed, 4 May 2011 09:38:29 +0100, Yorvyk wrote:
>
>  On some notebooks/laptops there is a function key that enables WiFi.
>> I've found with upgrades that this sets it's self to disable the WiFi,
>> but doesn't with a clean install.
>>
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>>
>
> There is a Fn + option for toggling wifi on/off (which never seems to work
> anyway) but the wifi light is on, as it always has been, but whether that
> means anything... I don't know.
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The "wifi" light often doubles as a bluetooth light on laptops / netbooks.
Have you checked that the WiFi is enabled in the bios of the machine,
perhaps disabling bluetooth as well to see if the light still comes on.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Jon Reynolds]

On Wed, 4 May 2011 09:38:29 +0100, Yorvyk wrote:


On some notebooks/laptops there is a function key that enables WiFi.
I've found with upgrades that this sets it's self to disable the 
WiFi,

but doesn't with a clean install.

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There is a Fn + option for toggling wifi on/off (which never seems to 
work anyway) but the wifi light is on, as it always has been, but 
whether that means anything... I don't know.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Yorvyk]

On Wed, 04 May 2011 07:53:35 +0100
Jon Reynolds  wrote:

>  On Tue, 3 May 2011 23:15:00 +0100, Kris Douglas wrote:
> > Sorry about the double post but I'm going to quote the section. It's
> > a pain on a mobile.
> >
> > "  pci wireless devices
> > 
> >
> > 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
> > RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8192] (rev 01) Subsystem: 
> > Askey
> > Computer Corp. Device [144f:7160] Kernel modules: r8192e_pci 03:00.0
> > Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
> > RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller [10ec:8136]
> > (rev 02)
> >
> > "
>  
> 
>  Yes the device shows up, but I mean I don't know how to make it turn 
>  on... in those notes, you see there are no attached wireless interfaces. 
>  When I do ifconfig -a there is no wlan entry.
> 
>  Hopefully this is an easy solution to someone, but I am not sure what I 
>  am looking for. All I know is it was working before.
> 
>  Anyway, I am going to reformat the whole netbook. Its still got a 
>  restore partition that came with it which is wasting 10Gb or so...
> 
>  Going to do a fresh Ubuntu 11,04 part. + /home part. + XP part.
> 
>  See how it works out of the box.
> 
On some notebooks/laptops there is a function key that enables WiFi.  I've 
found with upgrades that this sets it's self to disable the WiFi, but doesn't 
with a clean install.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Jon Reynolds]

On Tue, 3 May 2011 23:15:00 +0100, Kris Douglas wrote:

Sorry about the double post but I'm going to quote the section. It's
a pain on a mobile.

"  pci wireless devices


02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8192] (rev 01) Subsystem: 
Askey

Computer Corp. Device [144f:7160] Kernel modules: r8192e_pci 03:00.0
Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller [10ec:8136]
(rev 02)

"



Yes the device shows up, but I mean I don't know how to make it turn 
on... in those notes, you see there are no attached wireless interfaces. 
When I do ifconfig -a there is no wlan entry.


Hopefully this is an easy solution to someone, but I am not sure what I 
am looking for. All I know is it was working before.


Anyway, I am going to reformat the whole netbook. Its still got a 
restore partition that came with it which is wasting 10Gb or so...


Going to do a fresh Ubuntu 11,04 part. + /home part. + XP part.

See how it works out of the box.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Kris Douglas]

Sorry about the double post but I'm going to quote the section. It's a pain
on a mobile.

"  pci wireless devices


02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8192E
Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8192] (rev 01) Subsystem: Askey Computer Corp.
Device [144f:7160] Kernel modules: r8192e_pci 03:00.0 Ethernet controller
[0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast
Ethernet controller [10ec:8136] (rev 02)

"
On May 3, 2011 11:13 PM, "Kris Douglas"  wrote:
> Isn't there a wireless device under PCI devices? Seems to me there's a
> Realtek card.
> On May 3, 2011 9:28 PM, "Jon Reynolds" 
wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 May 2011 13:03:03 +0100, Jon Reynolds wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I will run that diagnostic script to get the same results.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> The output of that script...no signs of wireless devices:
>>
>> 
>>
>> [code]
>> Version: 1.1 (Development)
>> Mon May 2 21:33:17 BST 2011
>>
>>
>
***
>> Running networking services
>>
>
***
>> NetworkManager is running
>> 
>> Ubuntu release
>> 
>>
>> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
>> DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.04
>> DISTRIB_CODENAME=natty
>> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.04"
>>
>> 
>> Kernel
>> 
>>
>> Linux jonr-netbook 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:50
>> UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
>> 
>> List of drivers
>> 
>>
>> Module Size Used by
>> parport_pc 32111 0
>> binfmt_misc 13213 1
>> ppdev 12849 0
>> snd_hda_codec_realtek 255820 1
>> snd_hda_intel 24140 2
>> snd_hda_codec 90901 2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel
>> snd_hwdep 13274 1 snd_hda_codec
>> snd_pcm 80244 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
>> snd_seq_midi 13132 0
>> snd_rawmidi 25269 1 snd_seq_midi
>> snd_seq_midi_event 14475 1 snd_seq_midi
>> i915 450944 3
>> snd_seq 51291 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
>> joydev 17322 0
>> snd_timer 28659 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
>> samsung_laptop 13148 0
>> snd_seq_device 14110 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
>> drm_kms_helper 40745 1 i915
>> uvcvideo 66851 0
>> videodev 75143 1 uvcvideo
>> psmouse 73312 0
>> snd 55295 13
>>
>
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
>> drm 180037 4 i915,drm_kms_helper
>> serio_raw 12990 0
>> i2c_algo_bit 13184 1 i915
>> soundcore 12600 1 snd
>> video 18951 1 i915
>> snd_page_alloc 14073 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
>> lp 13349 0
>> parport 36746 3 parport_pc,ppdev,lp
>> r8169 42534 0
>>
>> 
>> pci wireless devices
>> 
>>
>> 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
>> RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8192] (rev 01)
>> Subsystem: Askey Computer Corp. Device [144f:7160]
>> Kernel modules: r8192e_pci
>> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
>> RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller [10ec:8136] (rev
>> 02)
>>
>> 
>> usb wireless devices
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> List of network devices
>> 
>>
>> *-network UNCLAIMED
>> description: Network controller
>> product: RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller
>> vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
>> physical id: 0
>> bus info: pci@:02:00.0
>> version: 01
>> width: 32 bits
>> clock: 33MHz
>> capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
>> configuration: latency=0
>> resources: ioport:2000(size=256) memory:f010-f0103fff
>> *-network
>> description: Ethernet interface
>> product: RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
>> vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
>> physical id: 0
>> bus info: pci@:03:00.0
>> logical name: eth0
>> version: 02
>> serial: 00:24:54:3c:66:5a
>> size: 100Mbit/s
>> capacity: 100Mbit/s
>> width: 64 bits
>> clock: 33MHz
>> capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix vpd bus_master cap_list rom
>> ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
>> configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169
>> driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI duplex=full ip=192.168.0.12 latency=0 link=yes
>> multicast=yes port=MII speed=100Mbit/s
>> resources: irq:42 ioport:3000(size=256) memory:f051-f0510fff
>> memory:f050-f050 memory:f052-f053
>>
>>
>> 
>> network info
>> 
>>
>> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:24:54:3c:66:5a
>>

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Kris Douglas]

Isn't there a wireless device under PCI devices? Seems to me there's a
Realtek card.
On May 3, 2011 9:28 PM, "Jon Reynolds"  wrote:
> On Tue, 03 May 2011 13:03:03 +0100, Jon Reynolds wrote:
>
>>
>> I will run that diagnostic script to get the same results.
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> The output of that script...no signs of wireless devices:
>
> 
>
> [code]
> Version: 1.1 (Development)
> Mon May 2 21:33:17 BST 2011
>
>
***
> Running networking services
>
***
> NetworkManager is running
> 
> Ubuntu release
> 
>
> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
> DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.04
> DISTRIB_CODENAME=natty
> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.04"
>
> 
> Kernel
> 
>
> Linux jonr-netbook 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:50
> UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
> 
> List of drivers
> 
>
> Module Size Used by
> parport_pc 32111 0
> binfmt_misc 13213 1
> ppdev 12849 0
> snd_hda_codec_realtek 255820 1
> snd_hda_intel 24140 2
> snd_hda_codec 90901 2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel
> snd_hwdep 13274 1 snd_hda_codec
> snd_pcm 80244 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
> snd_seq_midi 13132 0
> snd_rawmidi 25269 1 snd_seq_midi
> snd_seq_midi_event 14475 1 snd_seq_midi
> i915 450944 3
> snd_seq 51291 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
> joydev 17322 0
> snd_timer 28659 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
> samsung_laptop 13148 0
> snd_seq_device 14110 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
> drm_kms_helper 40745 1 i915
> uvcvideo 66851 0
> videodev 75143 1 uvcvideo
> psmouse 73312 0
> snd 55295 13
>
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
> drm 180037 4 i915,drm_kms_helper
> serio_raw 12990 0
> i2c_algo_bit 13184 1 i915
> soundcore 12600 1 snd
> video 18951 1 i915
> snd_page_alloc 14073 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
> lp 13349 0
> parport 36746 3 parport_pc,ppdev,lp
> r8169 42534 0
>
> 
> pci wireless devices
> 
>
> 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
> RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8192] (rev 01)
> Subsystem: Askey Computer Corp. Device [144f:7160]
> Kernel modules: r8192e_pci
> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
> RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller [10ec:8136] (rev
> 02)
>
> 
> usb wireless devices
> 
>
>
> 
> List of network devices
> 
>
> *-network UNCLAIMED
> description: Network controller
> product: RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller
> vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
> physical id: 0
> bus info: pci@:02:00.0
> version: 01
> width: 32 bits
> clock: 33MHz
> capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
> configuration: latency=0
> resources: ioport:2000(size=256) memory:f010-f0103fff
> *-network
> description: Ethernet interface
> product: RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
> vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
> physical id: 0
> bus info: pci@:03:00.0
> logical name: eth0
> version: 02
> serial: 00:24:54:3c:66:5a
> size: 100Mbit/s
> capacity: 100Mbit/s
> width: 64 bits
> clock: 33MHz
> capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix vpd bus_master cap_list rom
> ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
> configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169
> driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI duplex=full ip=192.168.0.12 latency=0 link=yes
> multicast=yes port=MII speed=100Mbit/s
> resources: irq:42 ioport:3000(size=256) memory:f051-f0510fff
> memory:f050-f050 memory:f052-f053
>
>
> 
> network info
> 
>
> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:24:54:3c:66:5a
> inet addr:192.168.0.12 Bcast:192.168.0.255
> Mask:255.255.255.0
> inet6 addr: fe80::224:54ff:fe3c:665a/64 Scope:Link
> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
> RX packets:1880 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:1859 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
> RX bytes:1883658 (1.8 MB) TX bytes:337299 (337.2 KB)
> Interrupt:42 Base address:0x2000
>
> lo Link encap:Local Loopback
> inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
> inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
> UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
> RX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
> RX bytes:720 (720.0 B) TX bytes:720 (720.0 B)
>
>
> ***

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Jon Reynolds]

On Tue, 03 May 2011 13:03:03 +0100, Jon Reynolds wrote:



 I will run that diagnostic script to get the same results.

 Thanks.


The output of that script...no signs of wireless devices:



[code]
Version: 1.1 (Development)
Mon May 2 21:33:17 BST 2011

***
Running networking services
***
NetworkManager is running

Ubuntu release


DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.04
DISTRIB_CODENAME=natty
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.04"


Kernel


Linux jonr-netbook 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:50 
UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux


  List of drivers


Module  Size  Used by
parport_pc 32111  0
binfmt_misc13213  1
ppdev  12849  0
snd_hda_codec_realtek   255820  1
snd_hda_intel  24140  2
snd_hda_codec  90901  2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep  13274  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm80244  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_seq_midi   13132  0
snd_rawmidi25269  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event 14475  1 snd_seq_midi
i915  450944  3
snd_seq51291  2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
joydev 17322  0
snd_timer  28659  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
samsung_laptop 13148  0
snd_seq_device 14110  3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
drm_kms_helper 40745  1 i915
uvcvideo   66851  0
videodev   75143  1 uvcvideo
psmouse73312  0
snd55295  13 
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device

drm   180037  4 i915,drm_kms_helper
serio_raw  12990  0
i2c_algo_bit   13184  1 i915
soundcore  12600  1 snd
video  18951  1 i915
snd_page_alloc 14073  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
lp 13349  0
parport36746  3 parport_pc,ppdev,lp
r8169  42534  0


pci wireless devices


02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8192] (rev 01)

Subsystem: Askey Computer Corp. Device [144f:7160]
Kernel modules: r8192e_pci
03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller [10ec:8136] (rev 
02)



usb wireless devices




List of network devices


  *-network UNCLAIMED
   description: Network controller
   product: RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller
   vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
   physical id: 0
   bus info: pci@:02:00.0
   version: 01
   width: 32 bits
   clock: 33MHz
   capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
   configuration: latency=0
   resources: ioport:2000(size=256) memory:f010-f0103fff
  *-network
   description: Ethernet interface
   product: RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
   vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
   physical id: 0
   bus info: pci@:03:00.0
   logical name: eth0
   version: 02
   serial: 00:24:54:3c:66:5a
   size: 100Mbit/s
   capacity: 100Mbit/s
   width: 64 bits
   clock: 33MHz
   capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix vpd bus_master cap_list rom 
ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
   configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169 
driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI duplex=full ip=192.168.0.12 latency=0 link=yes 
multicast=yes port=MII speed=100Mbit/s
   resources: irq:42 ioport:3000(size=256) memory:f051-f0510fff 
memory:f050-f050 memory:f052-f053




   network info


eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:24:54:3c:66:5a
  inet addr:192.168.0.12  Bcast:192.168.0.255  
Mask:255.255.255.0

  inet6 addr: fe80::224:54ff:fe3c:665a/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:1880 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:1859 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:1883658 (1.8 MB)  TX bytes:337

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Samuel Toogood]

On 3 May 2011 13:06, Gordon Burgess-Parker  wrote:
> On 03/05/11 13:04, Avi Greenbury wrote:
>
> Besides, I don't buy this thing about Windows users being scared of the
> command line. When I was doing Windows (admittedly XP) desktop support about
> 80% of my calls started 'press Start+R; now enter CMD'.
>
>
> Even with Windows 7, there's still a fair bit of CL stuff still being used
> in the MS Forums...
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Command line methods are good for giving for supporting other people
(particularly over the phone) because it's much more unambiguous to
say 'type lsusb' and then ask the person to read back the response
than to say 'click on the menu button, then find the control panel
item and click on it, then look for an icon labelled "hardware"'...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Gordon Burgess-Parker]

On 03/05/11 13:04, Avi Greenbury wrote:



Besides, I don't buy this thing about Windows users being scared of 
the command line. When I was doing Windows (admittedly XP) desktop 
support about 80% of my calls started 'press Start+R; now enter CMD'.




Even with Windows 7, there's still a fair bit of CL stuff still being 
used in the MS Forums...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Jon Reynolds]

On Tue, 3 May 2011 14:12:26 +0300, Dave Rice wrote:

Hi Guys,

I know I don't post here very often but I have to pop my two penneth
in here, in saying I feel for you both!

I recently have been trying to get others to put Ubuntu onto their
netbooks (various) and am getting increasingly frustrated with the
state of wifi in Ubuntu.

Other distros seem to be ahead of the game, but not all mind you.

Jon, I have been fighting with a Samsung n210, a rtl8192e, took me
three hours to get it working using all sorts of avenues. I finally
had to update the kernel and use the 'samsung-wireless' ppa
(https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/ppa [4]) to get in anywhere
near working.





I will try that PPA tonight. Mine is a Samsung Realtek RTL8192E on a 
N130 Netbook.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Jon Reynolds]

On Tue, 03 May 2011 11:44:37 +0100, Alan Bell wrote:

On 03/05/11 11:26, Jon Reynolds wrote:


Well, This is a bit of a rant I'm afraid... need to vent.

What gives with wireless? Why is it such an 
issue for Ubuntu? 'Almost' every time I perform an apt-get upgrade or 
in this case, a distribution upgrade, my wireless breaks! I'm getting 
really fed up of it.


Now I don't want to be seen as whinging about something but not 
helping to fix it, but it has been fixed in the past, as I have been 
using wifi before on many previous versions on this hardware. But for 
some reason, my particular wireless h/w, seems to get forgotten about 
or lost or whatever whenever there is a major upgrade and I have to 
wait, sometimes several weeks, for one of the upgrades to fix it. Or 
try various different methods found by googling, which don't all work, 
which I fear is cluttering up my system.


I don't understand how if it is fixed, why that bit of code or 
whatever it is doesn't just stay put.




Right now, after an upgrade to 11,04, I have no wireless devices 
detected. Its not that I can't connect, I don't even have any wlan 
detected.


Its a Realtek.


do lsusb in a terminal and let us know the full line that relates to
your wireless device.
Is this built in to some kind of laptop? Which model? If it is a
certified model or the same wireless device is in a certified model
then put that in the bug report.
So far this is a rant with out much actionable information, lets get
it to a reportable and fixable bug report.

Alan.


 I will perform the actions on my computer tonight. Its a Samsung N130
 Netbook.

 There is someone with a similar problem on the forums:
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1744668

 But their situation is better than mine, they at least have wireless
 hardware showing up.

 I will run that diagnostic script to get the same results.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Avi Greenbury]

Paul Sutton wrote:

surely a tool can be written for the gui that does this job. There are
tools that handle ping, traceroute, nslookup, whois etc in a small
application, so why not one for lsusb, lspci etc

it just needs a tabbed gui that can allow 1 button to be pressed the
results displayed in a scrollable box,  this allows easy copy / paste in
to a e-mail or text document. it would make life easier.  we need to
think from a non techy / geek point of view sometimes.


The only difference between this and the terminal is the need to enter 
the command itself. I don't see the point, personally.


I think that, rather than concoct some contrived two-bit GUI to replace 
all these nice and quick command line tools, it'd likely be worth 
instead helping these people lose their fear of the command line. These 
GUI wrappers would only be of use if they were in the default install - 
there's no point obviating what benefit they might present by first 
having to talk whoever through installing them.


Besides, I don't buy this thing about Windows users being scared of the 
command line. When I was doing Windows (admittedly XP) desktop support 
about 80% of my calls started 'press Start+R; now enter CMD'.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Paul Sutton]

>> Its a Realtek.
>>
> do lsusb in a terminal and let us know the full line that relates to
> your wireless device.
> Is this built in to some kind of laptop? Which model? If it is a
> certified model or the same wireless device is in a certified model then
> put that in the bug report.
> So far this is a rant with out much actionable information, lets get it
> to a reportable and fixable bug report.
> 
> Alan.
> 

I have no problem with the command line however many windows users will
think they are taking a step backwards having to type lsusb and many
users don't think they should have to use the command line.

surely a tool can be written for the gui that does this job. There are
tools that handle ping, traceroute, nslookup, whois etc in a small
application, so why not one for lsusb, lspci etc

it just needs a tabbed gui that can allow 1 button to be pressed the
results displayed in a scrollable box,  this allows easy copy / paste in
to a e-mail or text document. it would make life easier.  we need to
think from a non techy / geek point of view sometimes.

just a thought

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Dave Rice]

Hi Guys,

I know I don't post here very often but I have to pop my two penneth in
here, in saying I feel for you both!

I recently have been trying to get others to put Ubuntu onto their netbooks
(various) and am getting increasingly frustrated with the state of wifi in
Ubuntu.

Other distros seem to be ahead of the game, but not all mind you.

Jon, I have been fighting with a Samsung n210, a rtl8192e, took me three
hours to get it working using all sorts of avenues. I finally had to update
the kernel and use the 'samsung-wireless' ppa (
https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/ppa) to get in anywhere near working.

My own compaq 311c with an atheros ar928x series card still isn't working at
full level, I had to make/install the latest compat-wireless (
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download) to get it anywhere near
usable. (as a point of note - mint 10 lxde was fine!)

Alan, as for bugs, there are plenty already in the system:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/735171
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/729549
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/508746
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/761176

these are just four of many that apply to the state of wireless cards. I
obviously don't know how hard the devs are working, I'm sure they're pulling
their hair out too, but the pace seems to have slowed somewhat.

With Ubuntu now with Unity (not bad so far) being an all round solution even
for netbooks those with netbooks can't get online out of the box! If Ubuntu
wants to see an increase in netbook/laptop users then the most important
aspect of the netbook IMO is it's network card.

Users just want to install and go, they shouldn't have to be compiling
drivers from source or updating their kernel!!

Cheers,




On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Alan Bell <
alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com> wrote:

> On 03/05/11 11:26, Jon Reynolds wrote:
>
>>
>> Well, This is a bit of a rant I'm afraid... need to vent.
>>
>> What gives with wireless? Why is it such an issue
>> for Ubuntu? 'Almost' every time I perform an apt-get upgrade or in this
>> case, a distribution upgrade, my wireless breaks! I'm getting really fed up
>> of it.
>>
>> Now I don't want to be seen as whinging about something but not helping to
>> fix it, but it has been fixed in the past, as I have been using wifi before
>> on many previous versions on this hardware. But for some reason, my
>> particular wireless h/w, seems to get forgotten about or lost or whatever
>> whenever there is a major upgrade and I have to wait, sometimes several
>> weeks, for one of the upgrades to fix it. Or try various different methods
>> found by googling, which don't all work, which I fear is cluttering up my
>> system.
>>
>> I don't understand how if it is fixed, why that bit of code or whatever it
>> is doesn't just stay put.
>>
>> 
>>
>> Right now, after an upgrade to 11,04, I have no wireless devices detected.
>> Its not that I can't connect, I don't even have any wlan detected.
>>
>> Its a Realtek.
>>
>>  do lsusb in a terminal and let us know the full line that relates to your
> wireless device.
> Is this built in to some kind of laptop? Which model? If it is a certified
> model or the same wireless device is in a certified model then put that in
> the bug report.
> So far this is a rant with out much actionable information, lets get it to
> a reportable and fixable bug report.
>
> Alan.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)

[Alan Bell]

On 03/05/11 11:26, Jon Reynolds wrote:


Well, This is a bit of a rant I'm afraid... need to vent.

What gives with wireless? Why is it such an 
issue for Ubuntu? 'Almost' every time I perform an apt-get upgrade or 
in this case, a distribution upgrade, my wireless breaks! I'm getting 
really fed up of it.


Now I don't want to be seen as whinging about something but not 
helping to fix it, but it has been fixed in the past, as I have been 
using wifi before on many previous versions on this hardware. But for 
some reason, my particular wireless h/w, seems to get forgotten about 
or lost or whatever whenever there is a major upgrade and I have to 
wait, sometimes several weeks, for one of the upgrades to fix it. Or 
try various different methods found by googling, which don't all work, 
which I fear is cluttering up my system.


I don't understand how if it is fixed, why that bit of code or 
whatever it is doesn't just stay put.




Right now, after an upgrade to 11,04, I have no wireless devices 
detected. Its not that I can't connect, I don't even have any wlan 
detected.


Its a Realtek.

do lsusb in a terminal and let us know the full line that relates to 
your wireless device.
Is this built in to some kind of laptop? Which model? If it is a 
certified model or the same wireless device is in a certified model then 
put that in the bug report.
So far this is a rant with out much actionable information, lets get it 
to a reportable and fixable bug report.


Alan.

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