Re: [ubuntu-uk] CFLAGS Manipulation in Ubuntu

2010-05-06 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 5 May 2010 07:03, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
matt...@truthisfreedom.org.uk wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 20:53 +0100, LeeGroups wrote:
  Cpu11 :  4.5% us,  0.5% sy,  0.0% ni, 94.2% id,  0.5% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.3% 
  si
 
 Now that's just showing off Alan... :)

 Heh, I didn't notice that before!

 Is that a Tri-Quad-Core machine Popey or is it some kind of weird
 bastardisation of VT/HyperThreading on a Dual-Quad system?

 M.


I would guess it's a tri-core with hyperthreading.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] CFLAGS Manipulation in Ubuntu

2010-05-06 Thread Alan Pope
On 6 May 2010 11:41, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com wrote:

 I would guess it's a tri-core with hyperthreading.


2x Six-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2425 HE

:)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] CFLAGS Manipulation in Ubuntu

2010-05-06 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:


 2x Six-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2425 HE

 :)

 Cheers,
 Al.

 Hmmm.that's some serious processing powerthe CPU's in your machine
cost more than my car!! and probably go faster ;)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] CFLAGS Manipulation in Ubuntu

2010-05-06 Thread Alan Pope
On 6 May 2010 11:51, Paul Morgan-Roach roa...@roachy.net wrote:
 Hmmm.that's some serious processing powerthe CPU's in your machine
 cost more than my car!! and probably go faster ;)


Sadly not mine.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] CFLAGS Manipulation in Ubuntu

2010-05-05 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 20:53 +0100, LeeGroups wrote:
  Cpu11 :  4.5% us,  0.5% sy,  0.0% ni, 94.2% id,  0.5% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.3% si

 Now that's just showing off Alan... :)

Heh, I didn't notice that before!

Is that a Tri-Quad-Core machine Popey or is it some kind of weird
bastardisation of VT/HyperThreading on a Dual-Quad system?

M.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] CFLAGS Manipulation in Ubuntu

2010-05-04 Thread Alan Pope
On 4 May 2010 14:05, Stuart Bird stuart.bi...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Basically I need to ensure that Ubuntu is multiprocessor aware and that it
 is making use of all the processors and/or cores when a program designed to
 use them all is run.

 I think that makes sense :)


Easiest way to see if your system is mp aware is just run something
like top in a terminal. The CPU line shows all CPUs activity
aggregated like this:-

top - 14:09:19 up 83 days,  1:07,  4 users,  load average: 1.87, 1.89, 1.95
Tasks: 895 total,   4 running, 891 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  0.6% us,  0.5% sy,  0.0% ni, 98.7% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
Mem:  131900740k total, 113857192k used, 18043548k free,   133156k buffers
Swap: 33554424k total,8k used, 33554416k free, 94430544k cached

Press 1 and it will split out each CPU... like this:-

top - 14:09:39 up 83 days,  1:08,  4 users,  load average: 1.77, 1.87, 1.94
Tasks: 895 total,   2 running, 893 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu0  :  0.6% us,  0.3% sy,  0.0% ni, 99.1% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
Cpu1  :  3.0% us,  0.6% sy,  0.0% ni, 96.2% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
Cpu2  :  5.6% us,  0.3% sy,  0.0% ni, 93.9% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.1% si
Cpu3  :  2.2% us,  1.6% sy,  0.0% ni, 95.9% id,  0.2% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
Cpu4  :  0.8% us,  0.3% sy,  0.0% ni, 98.8% id,  0.1% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
Cpu5  :  1.0% us,  0.3% sy,  0.0% ni, 98.6% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
Cpu6  : 10.8% us,  1.6% sy,  0.0% ni, 86.9% id,  0.0% wa,  0.1% hi,  0.6% si
Cpu7  : 29.8% us,  2.0% sy,  0.0% ni, 67.4% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.7% si
Cpu8  : 36.0% us,  1.5% sy,  0.0% ni, 61.7% id,  0.1% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.8% si
Cpu9  : 12.9% us,  0.6% sy,  0.0% ni, 86.1% id,  0.1% wa,  0.1% hi,  0.3% si
Cpu10 :  0.9% us,  0.3% sy,  0.0% ni, 98.3% id,  0.3% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.1% si
Cpu11 :  4.5% us,  0.5% sy,  0.0% ni, 94.2% id,  0.5% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.3% si
Mem:  131900740k total, 113859240k used, 18041500k free,   133172k buffers
Swap: 33554424k total,8k used, 33554416k free, 94431560k cached

If you see multiple lines for CPU then chances are you're good to go.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] CFLAGS Manipulation in Ubuntu

2010-05-04 Thread James Westby
On Tue, 4 May 2010 14:05:48 +0100, Stuart Bird stuart.bi...@googlemail.com 
wrote:
 Hi All
 
 Does anyone know how I can check the CFLAGS settings in Ubuntu (10.4 x64).
 I have a need to run an application that depends on these settings to
 optimise speed but have found that Ubuntu has no make.conf file which is
 where I would normally expect to find/tweak these settings.

There is no make.conf as each package will define what it needs
separately.

There are gcc defaults depending on the version, but they aren't
accessible to easily change.

I don't see why you need to change global settings to affect one
application?

Thanks,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] CFLAGS Manipulation in Ubuntu

2010-05-04 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 04/05/10 14:05, Stuart Bird wrote:
 Hi All

 Does anyone know how I can check the CFLAGS settings in Ubuntu (10.4
 x64). I have a need to run an application that depends on these settings
 to optimise speed but have found that Ubuntu has no make.conf file
 which is where I would normally expect to find/tweak these settings.

CFLAGS is an environment variable that is fed to the [gcc] compiler at 
build time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFLAGS. It isn't really a 
setting as such. And if you want to change it you will need to 
recompile whatever the app or library is that needs it to be different.

I'm not sure what the Ubuntu packagers use normally, nor if you can read 
how it was set after a binary has been compiled, but the CFLAGS var 
*can* be different for each and every package built.

HTH

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] CFLAGS Manipulation in Ubuntu

2010-05-04 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
Quoting Stuart Bird stuart.bi...@googlemail.com:

 Hi All

 Does anyone know how I can check the CFLAGS settings in Ubuntu (10.4 x64).
 I have a need to run an application that depends on these settings to
 optimise speed but have found that Ubuntu has no make.conf file which is
 where I would normally expect to find/tweak these settings.

Gentoo user eh? We'll have none of that compile from source nonsense  
around here laddy, it's a binary distro don't-cha-know... :P [0]

 Basically I need to ensure that Ubuntu is multiprocessor aware and that it
 is making use of all the processors and/or cores when a program designed to
 use them all is run.

As far as I can tell (running Lucid x86_64 on  macbook pro 4.1 at the  
moment) all apps that require it are multi-processor aware.

If you want to recompile, just export the CFLAGS variable before you  
recompile the code.

Kind regards,

Matt

[0] I've used Gentoo for years, it's still a favourite of mine for  
servers, I just got fed up with a desktop taking 14 days to build!
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] CFLAGS Manipulation in Ubuntu

2010-05-04 Thread Stuart Bird
On 4 May 2010 14:29, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace 
matt...@truthisfreedom.org.uk wrote:

 Quoting Stuart Bird stuart.bi...@googlemail.com:

  Hi All
 
  Does anyone know how I can check the CFLAGS settings in Ubuntu (10.4
 x64).
  I have a need to run an application that depends on these settings to
  optimise speed but have found that Ubuntu has no make.conf file which
 is
  where I would normally expect to find/tweak these settings.

 Gentoo user eh? We'll have none of that compile from source nonsense
 around here laddy, it's a binary distro don't-cha-know... :P [0]

  Basically I need to ensure that Ubuntu is multiprocessor aware and that
 it
  is making use of all the processors and/or cores when a program designed
 to
  use them all is run.

 As far as I can tell (running Lucid x86_64 on  macbook pro 4.1 at the
 moment) all apps that require it are multi-processor aware.

 If you want to recompile, just export the CFLAGS variable before you
 recompile the code.

 Kind regards,

 Matt

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 servers, I just got fed up with a desktop taking 14 days to build!
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Thanks to all that posted a reply. The issue is now sorted as a result of me
re-reading the man pages properly this time and noticing that you can set
the required flag as an option when you build the run command at the shell.
So no need to mess with system wide settings for one application as someone
pointed out. Interestingly the 15GiB file was processed seven minutes faster
with the flag set than without so at least I know it works :)

Lesson learnt: RTFM (thoroughly)

Matthew

 I just got fed up with a desktop taking 14 days to build! 

I know what you mean. The phrase # emerge -uavDNt world still brings me
out in a cold sweat :)

I seem to remember a Ubentu or Genbuntu fork being talked about in the
past but don't know if it ever got off the ground?

Overall though, like you I appreciate the straightforward way that Ubuntu
does things on the desktop. I am still in the process of testing it as a
platform for my work (digital forensics) but it's looking good so far.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] CFLAGS Manipulation in Ubuntu

2010-05-04 Thread LeeGroups

 Cpu11 :  4.5% us,  0.5% sy,  0.0% ni, 94.2% id,  0.5% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.3% si
   
Now that's just showing off Alan... :)

Lee


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