Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clearing home directory at logout

2009-01-30 Thread Rob Beard
On 29/01/2009 23:37, Paul Sutton wrote:
 I thought the guest account did this, or can be set to, so I would
 assume if it does its a case of either:

 using the guest account or
 figuring out how it does it and reproduce for a different account

 Paul

Doesn't look like there is a guest account on 8.04.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clearing home directory at logout

2009-01-30 Thread Neil Greenwood
2009/1/30 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk:
 On 29/01/2009 23:37, Paul Sutton wrote:
 I thought the guest account did this, or can be set to, so I would
 assume if it does its a case of either:

 using the guest account or
 figuring out how it does it and reproduce for a different account

 Paul

 Doesn't look like there is a guest account on 8.04.


Rob,

Correct. It was added in 8.10. But maybe you could have a quick look
(in a VM maybe?) and replicate the functionality for your 8.04
install?

Cofion,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clearing home directory at logout

2009-01-30 Thread Lucy
2009/1/29 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk:
 Actually having a bit of a play I think I might have found a
 workaround.  I ended up installing the GDM Watchdog which checks for
 when a user logs out (or alternatively turns off the client).  It then
 closes all the users processes so in there I've put in a test command
 which works and runs as the logged in user.  Hopefully I can put
 together a simple script to empty the home directory and unpack a tar
 archive back into the directory.  Not ideal but as I'm on a tight
 schedule (server is being installed on Saturday and goes live on the 7th
 Feb) it looks like it'll have to do.  I'll just have to try and find a
 more elegant solution afterwards.

Rob, debian's LTSP package uses LDM rather than GDM to control logins.
I don't know if Ubuntu is the same? Have you tested the script on the
LTSP machines yet?

For LDM, the LTSP howto describes different scripts that can be
executed on startup, login and logout. It also has a section on
customising the screensaver, which might be useful (on debian it locks
the screen after a few minutes, which isn't always helpful).
You might want to have a read if it turns out you are using LDM:
http://www.ltsp.org/~sbalneav/LTSPManual.html#id2537250

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clearing home directory at logout

2009-01-30 Thread Rob Beard
On 30/01/2009 12:44, Lucy wrote:
 2009/1/29 Rob Beardr...@esdelle.co.uk:

 Actually having a bit of a play I think I might have found a
 workaround.  I ended up installing the GDM Watchdog which checks for
 when a user logs out (or alternatively turns off the client).  It then
 closes all the users processes so in there I've put in a test command
 which works and runs as the logged in user.  Hopefully I can put
 together a simple script to empty the home directory and unpack a tar
 archive back into the directory.  Not ideal but as I'm on a tight
 schedule (server is being installed on Saturday and goes live on the 7th
 Feb) it looks like it'll have to do.  I'll just have to try and find a
 more elegant solution afterwards.
  

 Rob, debian's LTSP package uses LDM rather than GDM to control logins.
 I don't know if Ubuntu is the same? Have you tested the script on the
 LTSP machines yet?


Yep with the GDM Watchdog it does seem to work.  I'm not sure what 
Ubuntu uses, I know it's LTSP 5 but I haven't really looked into it that 
far, last time I did anything serious with LTSP was on Debian Sarge with 
LTSP 4.2.
 For LDM, the LTSP howto describes different scripts that can be
 executed on startup, login and logout. It also has a section on
 customising the screensaver, which might be useful (on debian it locks
 the screen after a few minutes, which isn't always helpful).
 You might want to have a read if it turns out you are using LDM:
 http://www.ltsp.org/~sbalneav/LTSPManual.html#id2537250

Thanks I'll take a look.

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clearing home directory at logout

2009-01-30 Thread Paul Sutton
Rob Beard wrote:
 On 30/01/2009 12:44, Lucy wrote:
 2009/1/29 Rob Beardr...@esdelle.co.uk:

 Actually having a bit of a play I think I might have found a
 workaround.  I ended up installing the GDM Watchdog which checks for
 when a user logs out (or alternatively turns off the client).  It then
 closes all the users processes so in there I've put in a test command
 which works and runs as the logged in user.  Hopefully I can put
 together a simple script to empty the home directory and unpack a tar
 archive back into the directory.  Not ideal but as I'm on a tight
 schedule (server is being installed on Saturday and goes live on the 7th
 Feb) it looks like it'll have to do.  I'll just have to try and find a
 more elegant solution afterwards.
  
 Rob, debian's LTSP package uses LDM rather than GDM to control logins.
 I don't know if Ubuntu is the same? Have you tested the script on the
 LTSP machines yet?


 Yep with the GDM Watchdog it does seem to work.  I'm not sure what 
 Ubuntu uses, I know it's LTSP 5 but I haven't really looked into it that 
 far, last time I did anything serious with LTSP was on Debian Sarge with 
 LTSP 4.2.
 For LDM, the LTSP howto describes different scripts that can be
 executed on startup, login and logout. It also has a section on
 customising the screensaver, which might be useful (on debian it locks
 the screen after a few minutes, which isn't always helpful).
 You might want to have a read if it turns out you are using LDM:
 http://www.ltsp.org/~sbalneav/LTSPManual.html#id2537250

 Thanks I'll take a look.
 
 Rob
 
 
Rob, come to think of it, I am sure tom brough has sorted this out with
his LTSP network, as i think he auto created accounts then the data gets
deleted when the session is over.

Paul

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clearing home directory at logout

2009-01-30 Thread Andrew Oakley
Rob Beard wrote:
 I was wondering if anyone knew how to clear out the home directory on 
 Ubuntu when a user logs out?

See below. Public domain, do as you like.

By default the script will assume the username visitor. You can pass a
different username as a parameter if you wish.

I use this to create a customised Gnome guest account, for when I lend
my laptop to someone. I don't like Ubuntu 8.10's built-in guest account,
since it presents the user with an entirely vanilla uncustomised
environment. I prefer to customise the environment to make it more
friendly to first-time users; for example, I have it load the Firefox
browser straight away, since that's what 99% of visitors want to use.

Andrew Oakley
Head of Software Development
Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA)
95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ

 begin loadguest 

#!/bin/bash

# Loadguest by Andrew Oakley www.aoakley.com public domain 2009-01-30
#
# Resets the home directory back to a predetermined default
# Requires saveguest to be run first
# Ideal for a guest account
# Default username is visitor instead of guest , since guest is used
# for the built-in guest account from Ubuntu 8.10
#
# Save this as /usr/local/bin/loadguest , chmod 755
# Add the following to /etc/gdm/PostLogin/Default:

# if [[ $LOGNAME == visitor ]]

# then

#   /usr/local/bin/loadguest

# fi

defaultusername=visitor
username=$1

if [[ $username ==  ]]

then

  username=$defaultusername

fi

if [[ -f /home/$username.tar.gz ]]

then

  cd /home

  rm -rf $username/*

  tar xvfz /home/$username.tar.gz

else

  echo /home/$username.tar.gz does not exist or is not a regular file

fi 

 end loadguest 
 start saveguest 

#!/bin/bash

# Saveguest by Andrew Oakley www.aoakley.com public domain 2009-01-30
# Saves a Gnome login session and indeed an entire home directory
# MUST BE RUN AS ROOT eg. sudo saveguest
# Requires loadguest
#
# Save this as /usr/local/sbin/saveguest , chmod 755
# Then log in as the user you wish to set up, THEN LOG OUT
# Then run this as root eg. sudo saveguest
defaultusername=visitor
username=$1

if [[ $username ==  ]]

then

  username=$defaultusername
fi

if [[ -d /home/$username ]]

then

  cd /home

  mv -f $username.tar.gz $username-old.tar.gz

  tar cvfz $username.tar.gz $username --exclude=*/.thumbnails/*
--exclude=*ca
che*

else

  echo /home/$username does not exist or is not a directory

  echo Usage: saveguest [username]

  echo Assumes username 'visitor' if no username supplied

fi  

 end saveguest 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clearing home directory at logout

2009-01-30 Thread Rob Beard
On 30/01/2009 15:11, Paul Sutton wrote:

 Rob, come to think of it, I am sure tom brough has sorted this out with
 his LTSP network, as i think he auto created accounts then the data gets
 deleted when the session is over.

 Paul


As far as I was aware it kept the data so users could access it over the 
internet.  I'll ask him later on anyway.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clearing home directory at logout

2009-01-30 Thread Rob Beard
On 30/01/2009 16:51, Andrew Oakley wrote:
 Rob Beard wrote:

 I was wondering if anyone knew how to clear out the home directory on
 Ubuntu when a user logs out?
  

 See below. Public domain, do as you like.

 By default the script will assume the username visitor. You can pass a
 different username as a parameter if you wish.

 I use this to create a customised Gnome guest account, for when I lend
 my laptop to someone. I don't like Ubuntu 8.10's built-in guest account,
 since it presents the user with an entirely vanilla uncustomised
 environment. I prefer to customise the environment to make it more
 friendly to first-time users; for example, I have it load the Firefox
 browser straight away, since that's what 99% of visitors want to use.

 Andrew Oakley
 Head of Software Development
 Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA)
 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ

  begin loadguest 

 #!/bin/bash

 # Loadguest by Andrew Oakley www.aoakley.com public domain 2009-01-30
 #
 # Resets the home directory back to a predetermined default
 # Requires saveguest to be run first
 # Ideal for a guest account
 # Default username is visitor instead of guest , since guest is used
 # for the built-in guest account from Ubuntu 8.10
 #
 # Save this as /usr/local/bin/loadguest , chmod 755
 # Add the following to /etc/gdm/PostLogin/Default:

 # if [[ $LOGNAME == visitor ]]

 # then

 #   /usr/local/bin/loadguest

 # fi

 defaultusername=visitor
 username=$1

 if [[ $username ==  ]]

 then

username=$defaultusername

 fi

 if [[ -f /home/$username.tar.gz ]]

 then

cd /home

rm -rf $username/*

tar xvfz /home/$username.tar.gz

 else

echo /home/$username.tar.gz does not exist or is not a regular file

 fi

  end loadguest 
  start saveguest 

 #!/bin/bash

 # Saveguest by Andrew Oakley www.aoakley.com public domain 2009-01-30
 # Saves a Gnome login session and indeed an entire home directory
 # MUST BE RUN AS ROOT eg. sudo saveguest
 # Requires loadguest
 #
 # Save this as /usr/local/sbin/saveguest , chmod 755
 # Then log in as the user you wish to set up, THEN LOG OUT
 # Then run this as root eg. sudo saveguest
 defaultusername=visitor
 username=$1

 if [[ $username ==  ]]

 then

username=$defaultusername
 fi

 if [[ -d /home/$username ]]

 then

cd /home

mv -f $username.tar.gz $username-old.tar.gz

tar cvfz $username.tar.gz $username --exclude=*/.thumbnails/*
 --exclude=*ca
 che*

 else

echo /home/$username does not exist or is not a directory

echo Usage: saveguest [username]

echo Assumes username 'visitor' if no username supplied

 fi

  end saveguest 


Ahh thanks Andrew, it looks like this will do exactly what I want, not 
sure if it work with the PostSession, I couldn't seem to get anything in 
PostSession to work but it should at least work with GDM Watchdog.  I'll 
post back if I can get it working.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clearing home directory at logout

2009-01-30 Thread Ian Pascoe
Hi Rob

I presume this is for your LTSP server?

Have a trawl through the LTSP LTSP discuss mailing list over on
SourceForge - I seem to remember that someone had a similar problem on a
Ubuntu installation just before Xmas and a work around was provided.

Ian

-Original Message-
From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com
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Sent: 30 January 2009 17:16
To: British Ubuntu Talk
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clearing home directory at logout


On 30/01/2009 16:51, Andrew Oakley wrote:
 Rob Beard wrote:

 I was wondering if anyone knew how to clear out the home directory on
 Ubuntu when a user logs out?


 See below. Public domain, do as you like.

 By default the script will assume the username visitor. You can pass a
 different username as a parameter if you wish.

 I use this to create a customised Gnome guest account, for when I lend
 my laptop to someone. I don't like Ubuntu 8.10's built-in guest account,
 since it presents the user with an entirely vanilla uncustomised
 environment. I prefer to customise the environment to make it more
 friendly to first-time users; for example, I have it load the Firefox
 browser straight away, since that's what 99% of visitors want to use.

 Andrew Oakley
 Head of Software Development
 Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA)
 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ

  begin loadguest 

 #!/bin/bash

 # Loadguest by Andrew Oakley www.aoakley.com public domain 2009-01-30
 #
 # Resets the home directory back to a predetermined default
 # Requires saveguest to be run first
 # Ideal for a guest account
 # Default username is visitor instead of guest , since guest is used
 # for the built-in guest account from Ubuntu 8.10
 #
 # Save this as /usr/local/bin/loadguest , chmod 755
 # Add the following to /etc/gdm/PostLogin/Default:

 # if [[ $LOGNAME == visitor ]]

 # then

 #   /usr/local/bin/loadguest

 # fi

 defaultusername=visitor
 username=$1

 if [[ $username ==  ]]

 then

username=$defaultusername

 fi

 if [[ -f /home/$username.tar.gz ]]

 then

cd /home

rm -rf $username/*

tar xvfz /home/$username.tar.gz

 else

echo /home/$username.tar.gz does not exist or is not a regular file

 fi

  end loadguest 
  start saveguest 

 #!/bin/bash

 # Saveguest by Andrew Oakley www.aoakley.com public domain 2009-01-30
 # Saves a Gnome login session and indeed an entire home directory
 # MUST BE RUN AS ROOT eg. sudo saveguest
 # Requires loadguest
 #
 # Save this as /usr/local/sbin/saveguest , chmod 755
 # Then log in as the user you wish to set up, THEN LOG OUT
 # Then run this as root eg. sudo saveguest
 defaultusername=visitor
 username=$1

 if [[ $username ==  ]]

 then

username=$defaultusername
 fi

 if [[ -d /home/$username ]]

 then

cd /home

mv -f $username.tar.gz $username-old.tar.gz

tar cvfz $username.tar.gz $username --exclude=*/.thumbnails/*
 --exclude=*ca
 che*

 else

echo /home/$username does not exist or is not a directory

echo Usage: saveguest [username]

echo Assumes username 'visitor' if no username supplied

 fi

  end saveguest 


Ahh thanks Andrew, it looks like this will do exactly what I want, not
sure if it work with the PostSession, I couldn't seem to get anything in
PostSession to work but it should at least work with GDM Watchdog.  I'll
post back if I can get it working.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clearing home directory at logout

2009-01-30 Thread Rob Beard
On 30/01/2009 20:40, Ian Pascoe wrote:
 Hi Rob

 I presume this is for your LTSP server?

 Have a trawl through the LTSPLTSP discuss  mailing list over on
 SourceForge - I seem to remember that someone had a similar problem on a
 Ubuntu installation just before Xmas and a work around was provided.

 Ian

Yep, unfortunately they want normal users who keep their settings and 
some guest accounts.  I'll have a look at that too.  Thanks for the 
pointers.

Assuming all goes well tomorrow getting the server in I'll send out an 
e-mail inviting anyone who wants to come along to the big official 
opening :-)

Rob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clearing home directory at logout

2009-01-30 Thread Neil Greenwood
2009/1/30 Andrew Oakley andrew.oak...@hesa.ac.uk:
[snip]
 Public domain, do as you like.


Slight bash optimisation included below...

 [snip]

 username=$1

 if [[ $username ==  ]]

 then

  username=$defaultusername

 fi


username=${1:-${defaultusername}}


This single line replaces both the assignment and the 'if..fi' block.
The unfortunate bit about this replacement is that no one understands
it without reading the bash man page! :-)


Cofion/Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clearing home directory at logout

2009-01-29 Thread Farran Lee
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 21:38 +, Rob Beard wrote:

 Hi folks,
 
 I was wondering if anyone knew how to clear out the home directory on 
 Ubuntu when a user logs out?
 
 Basically what I to achieve is have a script run to automatically when a 
 user logs out of their Gnome session so it resets everything back to the 
 default.  I've tried putting a couple of commands into .bash_logout to 
 see it that works but it doesn't seem to run on a Gnome session logout.  
 I just wondered if anyone knew how I could specify a script to run at 
 logout for specific users?
 
 Ta,
 
 Rob
 
 


i tried that once before - i basically made their home directory a
folder in the /tmp directory. That worked...
but then the new powermanager/user switcher-y thing instead of the
shutdown button has a guest session in it. Not sure how to access that
from gdm though...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clearing home directory at logout

2009-01-29 Thread Rob Beard
On 29/01/2009 21:49, Farran Lee wrote:

 i tried that once before - i basically made their home directory a 
 folder in the /tmp directory. That worked...
 but then the new powermanager/user switcher-y thing instead of the 
 shutdown button has a guest session in it. Not sure how to access 
 that from gdm though...
Actually having a bit of a play I think I might have found a 
workaround.  I ended up installing the GDM Watchdog which checks for 
when a user logs out (or alternatively turns off the client).  It then 
closes all the users processes so in there I've put in a test command 
which works and runs as the logged in user.  Hopefully I can put 
together a simple script to empty the home directory and unpack a tar 
archive back into the directory.  Not ideal but as I'm on a tight 
schedule (server is being installed on Saturday and goes live on the 7th 
Feb) it looks like it'll have to do.  I'll just have to try and find a 
more elegant solution afterwards.

Still I'm sure it'll all be worth it in the end when there are 6 more 
Ubuntu machines out there :-)

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clearing home directory at logout

2009-01-29 Thread Alec Wright
Not sure about clearing it on logout, but i expect clearing it on login will
do? SystemPrefsSessions
AddCommand: rm -fr $HOME/* ; cp /etc/skel/* $HOME/
That deletes everyhting in the come dir and then copies the default home dir

2009/1/29 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk

 Hi folks,

 I was wondering if anyone knew how to clear out the home directory on
 Ubuntu when a user logs out?

 Basically what I to achieve is have a script run to automatically when a
 user logs out of their Gnome session so it resets everything back to the
 default.  I've tried putting a couple of commands into .bash_logout to
 see it that works but it doesn't seem to run on a Gnome session logout.
 I just wondered if anyone knew how I could specify a script to run at
 logout for specific users?

 Ta,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clearing home directory at logout

2009-01-29 Thread Alec Wright
*come=home
sorry

2009/1/29 Alec Wright ale...@gmail.com

 Not sure about clearing it on logout, but i expect clearing it on login
 will do? SystemPrefsSessions
 AddCommand: rm -fr $HOME/* ; cp /etc/skel/* $HOME/
 That deletes everyhting in the come dir and then copies the default home
 dir

 2009/1/29 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk

 Hi folks,


 I was wondering if anyone knew how to clear out the home directory on
 Ubuntu when a user logs out?

 Basically what I to achieve is have a script run to automatically when a
 user logs out of their Gnome session so it resets everything back to the
 default.  I've tried putting a couple of commands into .bash_logout to
 see it that works but it doesn't seem to run on a Gnome session logout.
 I just wondered if anyone knew how I could specify a script to run at
 logout for specific users?

 Ta,

 Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clearing home directory at logout

2009-01-29 Thread Paul Sutton
Farran Lee wrote:
 On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 21:38 +, Rob Beard wrote:
 
 Hi folks,

 I was wondering if anyone knew how to clear out the home directory on 
 Ubuntu when a user logs out?

 Basically what I to achieve is have a script run to automatically when a 
 user logs out of their Gnome session so it resets everything back to the 
 default.  I've tried putting a couple of commands into .bash_logout to 
 see it that works but it doesn't seem to run on a Gnome session logout.  
 I just wondered if anyone knew how I could specify a script to run at 
 logout for specific users?

 Ta,

 Rob


 
 
 i tried that once before - i basically made their home directory a
 folder in the /tmp directory. That worked...
 but then the new powermanager/user switcher-y thing instead of the
 shutdown button has a guest session in it. Not sure how to access that
 from gdm though...
 
 ===
 Farran Lee
 I'm only 16 :P
 
 
I thought the guest account did this, or can be set to,  so I would
assume if it does its a case of either:

using the guest account or
figuring out how it does it and reproduce for a different account

Paul

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