Re: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing
Apparently only by an earlier version of Gutenprint, removed in 11.10. I also read it never worked anyway. It installs ok but then the light flashes on the printer then nothing. On 1 June 2014 23:15, Simon Greenwood wrote: > > > > On 1 June 2014 20:50, Gareth France wrote: > >> I was lucky enough to be given a PC today, also a P4 but with 2Gb RAM. >> It's running Lubuntu like a dream. I'll tinker with the old on in my own >> time. However I now find their printer isn't supported on Linux at all! A >> Canon Pixma iP1200. That is abysmal to be honest. I thought those days were >> long since gone. I'm really not sure what to do for them now. >> >>> >>> >>> > The printer appears to be supported by gutenprint: > https://www.openprinting.org/printer/Canon/Canon-PIXMA-iP1200 > > These drivers can be frustrating to set up and there's no guarantee unless > someone else has done it but there's also no reason to assume that it > shouldn't. > > s/ > > > -- > Twitter: @sfgreenwood > "TBA are particularly glib" > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing
On 1 June 2014 20:50, Gareth France wrote: > I was lucky enough to be given a PC today, also a P4 but with 2Gb RAM. > It's running Lubuntu like a dream. I'll tinker with the old on in my own > time. However I now find their printer isn't supported on Linux at all! A > Canon Pixma iP1200. That is abysmal to be honest. I thought those days were > long since gone. I'm really not sure what to do for them now. > >> >> >> The printer appears to be supported by gutenprint: https://www.openprinting.org/printer/Canon/Canon-PIXMA-iP1200 These drivers can be frustrating to set up and there's no guarantee unless someone else has done it but there's also no reason to assume that it shouldn't. s/ -- Twitter: @sfgreenwood "TBA are particularly glib" -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing
I was lucky enough to be given a PC today, also a P4 but with 2Gb RAM. It's running Lubuntu like a dream. I'll tinker with the old on in my own time. However I now find their printer isn't supported on Linux at all! A Canon Pixma iP1200. That is abysmal to be honest. I thought those days were long since gone. I'm really not sure what to do for them now. On 1 June 2014 20:32, Barry Drake wrote: > On 31/05/14 21:16, Gareth France wrote: > >> This Thunderbird issue is doing my head in! It now tells me I have emails >> that don't exist! I suppose asking it to run Ubuntu could be taxing the >> hardware and causing an overheat. I'll take a look tomorrow. >> > > I've posted a bug at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1325394 about the > Thunderbird problem. Would be good if this is confirmed. > > Regards,Barry. > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing
On 31/05/14 21:16, Gareth France wrote: This Thunderbird issue is doing my head in! It now tells me I have emails that don't exist! I suppose asking it to run Ubuntu could be taxing the hardware and causing an overheat. I'll take a look tomorrow. I've posted a bug at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1325394 about the Thunderbird problem. Would be good if this is confirmed. Regards,Barry. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing
I did run memtest but only for one full cycle. Also Windows XP was running flawlessly, though full of spyware and like a snail. On 31 May 2014 21:51, Colin Law wrote: > On 31 May 2014 21:46, Gareth France wrote: > > I doubt you'd find 2gb in a pentium 4. I'll install Lubuntu or Xubuntu > and > > see how that goes. > > You don't actually need to re-install, just install lubuntu-desktop > and then select it from the logon screen. > > Run memtest for a few hours first though, if that fails then nothing will > work. > > Colin > > > > > > > On 31 May 2014 21:31, Colin Law wrote: > >> > >> On 31 May 2014 21:16, Gareth France wrote: > >> > This Thunderbird issue is doing my head in! It now tells me I have > >> > emails > >> > that don't exist! I suppose asking it to run Ubuntu could be taxing > the > >> > hardware and causing an overheat. I'll take a look tomorrow. > >> > >> I have just looked back and realised this is the thread about the old > >> PC, I don't think we know yet how much RAM it has, crashing could be > >> caused by not enough. If less than 1GB then no hope of running Unity > >> I think, ideally at least 2GB. > >> > >> Colin > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > On 31 May 2014 21:11, Colin Law wrote: > >> >> > >> >> On 31 May 2014 08:44, Gareth France wrote: > >> >> > Sorry for the late reply guys. For some reason as yet unexplained > >> >> > Thunderbird decided to tell me I had unread emails but wouldn't > >> >> > display > >> >> > them! It's not running slowly at all, it just freezes at random > >> >> > points > >> >> > forcing you to power-cycle. I will be taking another look at it > later > >> >> > on > >> >> > today. I may try a re-install with one of the other flavours, we'll > >> >> > see. > >> >> > >> >> Do you mean that the machine is absolutely frozen? No mouse, > >> >> Ctrl+Alt+F1 does nothing, etc? > >> >> Have a look in /var/log/syslog to see if there are any messages > before > >> >> the freeze. > >> >> If nothing there then it could well be a hardware issue, overheating > >> >> possibly, or PSU for example. Try booting into memtest and leave it > >> >> running for a few hours and see if it freezes then or shows errors. > >> >> > >> >> Colin > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > On 30 May 2014 15:47, Pete Smout wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On May 30, 2014 9:57 AM, "George DiceGeorge" > >> >> >> > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > as its an older machine try xubuntu? > >> >> >> > http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ > >> >> >> > [g] > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > -Original Message- From: Gareth France Sent: Friday, 30 > >> >> >> > May, > >> >> >> > 2014 07:07 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Constant > >> >> >> > crashing > >> >> >> > I recently installed Ubuntu on a friends computer as it was > >> >> >> > running > >> >> >> > painfully slowly with Windows. It is an older machine and > >> >> >> > xx > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > >> >> >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > >> >> >> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Hi, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On that age of machine I would consider lubuntu or xubuntu or even > >> >> >> crunchbang (not a *buntu but Debian based lightweight Openbox os, > >> >> >> hope > >> >> >> I > >> >> >> don't break any list rules straying from *buntus) > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Also look at how much RAM the machine has, it can be picked up > for a > >> >> >> few > >> >> >> pounds now ! > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Regards > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Pete S > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > >> >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > >> >> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > >> >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > >> >> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > >> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > >> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing
On 31 May 2014 21:46, Gareth France wrote: > I doubt you'd find 2gb in a pentium 4. I'll install Lubuntu or Xubuntu and > see how that goes. You don't actually need to re-install, just install lubuntu-desktop and then select it from the logon screen. Run memtest for a few hours first though, if that fails then nothing will work. Colin > > > On 31 May 2014 21:31, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 31 May 2014 21:16, Gareth France wrote: >> > This Thunderbird issue is doing my head in! It now tells me I have >> > emails >> > that don't exist! I suppose asking it to run Ubuntu could be taxing the >> > hardware and causing an overheat. I'll take a look tomorrow. >> >> I have just looked back and realised this is the thread about the old >> PC, I don't think we know yet how much RAM it has, crashing could be >> caused by not enough. If less than 1GB then no hope of running Unity >> I think, ideally at least 2GB. >> >> Colin >> >> > >> > >> > On 31 May 2014 21:11, Colin Law wrote: >> >> >> >> On 31 May 2014 08:44, Gareth France wrote: >> >> > Sorry for the late reply guys. For some reason as yet unexplained >> >> > Thunderbird decided to tell me I had unread emails but wouldn't >> >> > display >> >> > them! It's not running slowly at all, it just freezes at random >> >> > points >> >> > forcing you to power-cycle. I will be taking another look at it later >> >> > on >> >> > today. I may try a re-install with one of the other flavours, we'll >> >> > see. >> >> >> >> Do you mean that the machine is absolutely frozen? No mouse, >> >> Ctrl+Alt+F1 does nothing, etc? >> >> Have a look in /var/log/syslog to see if there are any messages before >> >> the freeze. >> >> If nothing there then it could well be a hardware issue, overheating >> >> possibly, or PSU for example. Try booting into memtest and leave it >> >> running for a few hours and see if it freezes then or shows errors. >> >> >> >> Colin >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On 30 May 2014 15:47, Pete Smout wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 30, 2014 9:57 AM, "George DiceGeorge" >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > as its an older machine try xubuntu? >> >> >> > http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ >> >> >> > [g] >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -Original Message- From: Gareth France Sent: Friday, 30 >> >> >> > May, >> >> >> > 2014 07:07 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Constant >> >> >> > crashing >> >> >> > I recently installed Ubuntu on a friends computer as it was >> >> >> > running >> >> >> > painfully slowly with Windows. It is an older machine and >> >> >> > xx >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >> >> >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> >> >> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> >> >> On that age of machine I would consider lubuntu or xubuntu or even >> >> >> crunchbang (not a *buntu but Debian based lightweight Openbox os, >> >> >> hope >> >> >> I >> >> >> don't break any list rules straying from *buntus) >> >> >> >> >> >> Also look at how much RAM the machine has, it can be picked up for a >> >> >> few >> >> >> pounds now ! >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> >> >> Pete S >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >> >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> >> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >> >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> >> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> >> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ >> > >> >> -- >> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing
I doubt you'd find 2gb in a pentium 4. I'll install Lubuntu or Xubuntu and see how that goes. On 31 May 2014 21:31, Colin Law wrote: > On 31 May 2014 21:16, Gareth France wrote: > > This Thunderbird issue is doing my head in! It now tells me I have emails > > that don't exist! I suppose asking it to run Ubuntu could be taxing the > > hardware and causing an overheat. I'll take a look tomorrow. > > I have just looked back and realised this is the thread about the old > PC, I don't think we know yet how much RAM it has, crashing could be > caused by not enough. If less than 1GB then no hope of running Unity > I think, ideally at least 2GB. > > Colin > > > > > > > On 31 May 2014 21:11, Colin Law wrote: > >> > >> On 31 May 2014 08:44, Gareth France wrote: > >> > Sorry for the late reply guys. For some reason as yet unexplained > >> > Thunderbird decided to tell me I had unread emails but wouldn't > display > >> > them! It's not running slowly at all, it just freezes at random points > >> > forcing you to power-cycle. I will be taking another look at it later > on > >> > today. I may try a re-install with one of the other flavours, we'll > see. > >> > >> Do you mean that the machine is absolutely frozen? No mouse, > >> Ctrl+Alt+F1 does nothing, etc? > >> Have a look in /var/log/syslog to see if there are any messages before > >> the freeze. > >> If nothing there then it could well be a hardware issue, overheating > >> possibly, or PSU for example. Try booting into memtest and leave it > >> running for a few hours and see if it freezes then or shows errors. > >> > >> Colin > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > On 30 May 2014 15:47, Pete Smout wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On May 30, 2014 9:57 AM, "George DiceGeorge" > > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > as its an older machine try xubuntu? > >> >> > http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ > >> >> > [g] > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > -Original Message- From: Gareth France Sent: Friday, 30 > May, > >> >> > 2014 07:07 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Constant > crashing > >> >> > I recently installed Ubuntu on a friends computer as it was running > >> >> > painfully slowly with Windows. It is an older machine and > xx > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > >> >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > >> >> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > >> >> > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> On that age of machine I would consider lubuntu or xubuntu or even > >> >> crunchbang (not a *buntu but Debian based lightweight Openbox os, > hope > >> >> I > >> >> don't break any list rules straying from *buntus) > >> >> > >> >> Also look at how much RAM the machine has, it can be picked up for a > >> >> few > >> >> pounds now ! > >> >> > >> >> Regards > >> >> > >> >> Pete S > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > >> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > >> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing
On 31 May 2014 21:16, Gareth France wrote: > This Thunderbird issue is doing my head in! It now tells me I have emails > that don't exist! I suppose asking it to run Ubuntu could be taxing the > hardware and causing an overheat. I'll take a look tomorrow. I have just looked back and realised this is the thread about the old PC, I don't think we know yet how much RAM it has, crashing could be caused by not enough. If less than 1GB then no hope of running Unity I think, ideally at least 2GB. Colin > > > On 31 May 2014 21:11, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 31 May 2014 08:44, Gareth France wrote: >> > Sorry for the late reply guys. For some reason as yet unexplained >> > Thunderbird decided to tell me I had unread emails but wouldn't display >> > them! It's not running slowly at all, it just freezes at random points >> > forcing you to power-cycle. I will be taking another look at it later on >> > today. I may try a re-install with one of the other flavours, we'll see. >> >> Do you mean that the machine is absolutely frozen? No mouse, >> Ctrl+Alt+F1 does nothing, etc? >> Have a look in /var/log/syslog to see if there are any messages before >> the freeze. >> If nothing there then it could well be a hardware issue, overheating >> possibly, or PSU for example. Try booting into memtest and leave it >> running for a few hours and see if it freezes then or shows errors. >> >> Colin >> >> > >> > >> > On 30 May 2014 15:47, Pete Smout wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 30, 2014 9:57 AM, "George DiceGeorge" >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > as its an older machine try xubuntu? >> >> > http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ >> >> > [g] >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -Original Message- From: Gareth France Sent: Friday, 30 May, >> >> > 2014 07:07 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing >> >> > I recently installed Ubuntu on a friends computer as it was running >> >> > painfully slowly with Windows. It is an older machine and xx >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >> >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> >> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> On that age of machine I would consider lubuntu or xubuntu or even >> >> crunchbang (not a *buntu but Debian based lightweight Openbox os, hope >> >> I >> >> don't break any list rules straying from *buntus) >> >> >> >> Also look at how much RAM the machine has, it can be picked up for a >> >> few >> >> pounds now ! >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Pete S >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ >> > >> >> -- >> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing
This Thunderbird issue is doing my head in! It now tells me I have emails that don't exist! I suppose asking it to run Ubuntu could be taxing the hardware and causing an overheat. I'll take a look tomorrow. On 31 May 2014 21:11, Colin Law wrote: > On 31 May 2014 08:44, Gareth France wrote: > > Sorry for the late reply guys. For some reason as yet unexplained > > Thunderbird decided to tell me I had unread emails but wouldn't display > > them! It's not running slowly at all, it just freezes at random points > > forcing you to power-cycle. I will be taking another look at it later on > > today. I may try a re-install with one of the other flavours, we'll see. > > Do you mean that the machine is absolutely frozen? No mouse, > Ctrl+Alt+F1 does nothing, etc? > Have a look in /var/log/syslog to see if there are any messages before > the freeze. > If nothing there then it could well be a hardware issue, overheating > possibly, or PSU for example. Try booting into memtest and leave it > running for a few hours and see if it freezes then or shows errors. > > Colin > > > > > > > On 30 May 2014 15:47, Pete Smout wrote: > >> > >> > >> On May 30, 2014 9:57 AM, "George DiceGeorge" > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > as its an older machine try xubuntu? > >> > http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ > >> > [g] > >> > > >> > > >> > -Original Message- From: Gareth France Sent: Friday, 30 May, > >> > 2014 07:07 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing > >> > I recently installed Ubuntu on a friends computer as it was running > >> > painfully slowly with Windows. It is an older machine and xx > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > >> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> On that age of machine I would consider lubuntu or xubuntu or even > >> crunchbang (not a *buntu but Debian based lightweight Openbox os, hope I > >> don't break any list rules straying from *buntus) > >> > >> Also look at how much RAM the machine has, it can be picked up for a few > >> pounds now ! > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Pete S > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > >> > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing
On 31 May 2014 08:44, Gareth France wrote: > Sorry for the late reply guys. For some reason as yet unexplained > Thunderbird decided to tell me I had unread emails but wouldn't display > them! It's not running slowly at all, it just freezes at random points > forcing you to power-cycle. I will be taking another look at it later on > today. I may try a re-install with one of the other flavours, we'll see. Do you mean that the machine is absolutely frozen? No mouse, Ctrl+Alt+F1 does nothing, etc? Have a look in /var/log/syslog to see if there are any messages before the freeze. If nothing there then it could well be a hardware issue, overheating possibly, or PSU for example. Try booting into memtest and leave it running for a few hours and see if it freezes then or shows errors. Colin > > > On 30 May 2014 15:47, Pete Smout wrote: >> >> >> On May 30, 2014 9:57 AM, "George DiceGeorge" >> wrote: >> > >> > as its an older machine try xubuntu? >> > http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ >> > [g] >> > >> > >> > -Original Message- From: Gareth France Sent: Friday, 30 May, >> > 2014 07:07 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing >> > I recently installed Ubuntu on a friends computer as it was running >> > painfully slowly with Windows. It is an older machine and xx >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ >> >> Hi, >> >> On that age of machine I would consider lubuntu or xubuntu or even >> crunchbang (not a *buntu but Debian based lightweight Openbox os, hope I >> don't break any list rules straying from *buntus) >> >> Also look at how much RAM the machine has, it can be picked up for a few >> pounds now ! >> >> Regards >> >> Pete S >> >> >> -- >> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ >> > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing
I have many Thunderbird issues. The latest which is present in 14.04 is the little triangles which tell you how many instances are running on the launcher don't work. The second or third one pops up when you compose a message but they don't go away right away when that second or third window closes. It's only when you start clicking on things it catches up. For a few releases now the indicator turns blue to say there are unread messages and remains that way even when the messages have been deleted. As does the count in the launcher. To clear them you have to open the messaging menu and click on the account that claims too still have mail. On 31 May 2014 09:14, Barry Drake wrote: > On 31/05/14 08:44, Gareth France wrote: > >> Sorry for the late reply guys. For some reason as yet unexplained >> Thunderbird decided to tell me I had unread emails but wouldn't display >> them! It's not running slowly at all, it just freezes at random points >> forcing you to power-cycle. I will be taking another look at it later on >> today. I may try a re-install with one of the other flavours, we'll see. >> > > I've been getting this kind of behaviour with Thunderbird for a while. > It's very noticeable on my rather slow netbook, but it happens too, on my > up-to-the-mark quad core desktop, although for a much shorter time. It > seems to be something to do with gmail downloading sometimes thousands of > e-mails into 'all-mail' boxes (although I can't be sure this is where the > problem starts. I have two imap accounts that use g-mail as the carrier. > Other accounts such as gmx don't seem to have this problem. On the > netbook, sometimes Thunderbird greys out for up to a minute before > resuming. Sometimes while I'm typing an e-mail, the cursor freezes for a > few seconds. > > Anyone else notice this? The problem has been around for months now, and > was there in 12.04 through later releases including Utopic (which I'm using > now). > > Regards,Barry. > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing
On 31/05/14 08:44, Gareth France wrote: Sorry for the late reply guys. For some reason as yet unexplained Thunderbird decided to tell me I had unread emails but wouldn't display them! It's not running slowly at all, it just freezes at random points forcing you to power-cycle. I will be taking another look at it later on today. I may try a re-install with one of the other flavours, we'll see. I've been getting this kind of behaviour with Thunderbird for a while. It's very noticeable on my rather slow netbook, but it happens too, on my up-to-the-mark quad core desktop, although for a much shorter time. It seems to be something to do with gmail downloading sometimes thousands of e-mails into 'all-mail' boxes (although I can't be sure this is where the problem starts. I have two imap accounts that use g-mail as the carrier. Other accounts such as gmx don't seem to have this problem. On the netbook, sometimes Thunderbird greys out for up to a minute before resuming. Sometimes while I'm typing an e-mail, the cursor freezes for a few seconds. Anyone else notice this? The problem has been around for months now, and was there in 12.04 through later releases including Utopic (which I'm using now). Regards,Barry. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing
Sorry for the late reply guys. For some reason as yet unexplained Thunderbird decided to tell me I had unread emails but wouldn't display them! It's not running slowly at all, it just freezes at random points forcing you to power-cycle. I will be taking another look at it later on today. I may try a re-install with one of the other flavours, we'll see. On 30 May 2014 15:47, Pete Smout wrote: > > On May 30, 2014 9:57 AM, "George DiceGeorge" > wrote: > > > > as its an older machine try xubuntu? > > http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ > > [g] > > > > > > -Original Message- From: Gareth France Sent: Friday, 30 May, > 2014 07:07 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing > > I recently installed Ubuntu on a friends computer as it was running > painfully slowly with Windows. It is an older machine and xx > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > Hi, > > On that age of machine I would consider lubuntu or xubuntu or even > crunchbang (not a *buntu but Debian based lightweight Openbox os, hope I > don't break any list rules straying from *buntus) > > Also look at how much RAM the machine has, it can be picked up for a few > pounds now ! > > Regards > > Pete S > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing
On May 30, 2014 9:57 AM, "George DiceGeorge" wrote: > > as its an older machine try xubuntu? > http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ > [g] > > > -Original Message- From: Gareth France Sent: Friday, 30 May, 2014 07:07 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing > I recently installed Ubuntu on a friends computer as it was running painfully slowly with Windows. It is an older machine and xx > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Hi, On that age of machine I would consider lubuntu or xubuntu or even crunchbang (not a *buntu but Debian based lightweight Openbox os, hope I don't break any list rules straying from *buntus) Also look at how much RAM the machine has, it can be picked up for a few pounds now ! Regards Pete S -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing
as its an older machine try xubuntu? http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ [g] -Original Message- From: Gareth France Sent: Friday, 30 May, 2014 07:07 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing I recently installed Ubuntu on a friends computer as it was running painfully slowly with Windows. It is an older machine and xx -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing
On 30/05/14 08:30, Barry Drake wrote: On 30/05/14 08:16, Gareth France wrote: Unfortunately not, until I return there this afternoon. Being a desktop it may not even have a model. All I know off hand is that it is a Pentium 4. OMG! That's really old by today's standards. No wonder it feels slow. Everything will be; memory, disk, dma. As a guess I'd take a long hard look at the hard drive... Run a few sanity checks on it. Al -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing
On 30/05/14 08:16, Gareth France wrote: Unfortunately not, until I return there this afternoon. Being a desktop it may not even have a model. All I know off hand is that it is a Pentium 4. If it never had a memory upgrade, you could be struggling with lack of memory and excessive use of swap. Take a note of the memory size and the size of the swap partition. You might consider one of the lightweight *buntus as a better starting point. I have a Windows 2000 box that had been upgraded both in memory and motherboard. Performance is well below average with Ubuntu, but with Lubuntu (I think that's what I put on it), it performs really well. Regards,Barry Drake. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing
On 30/05/14 08:13, Barry Titterton wrote: On 30/05/14 07:07, Gareth France wrote: I recently installed Ubuntu on a friends computer as it was running painfully slowly with Windows. It is an older machine and the performance is now acceptable. However it appears that it is regularly hanging and requiring a forced reboot to cure this. When working on their broadband setup yesterday I witnessed this three times in a row, gave up and used my laptop instead. I have run the memory check that comes with Ubuntu and found no errors. I just wondered if anyone had any ideas how to track down the fault. Although slow Windows did not crash like this. Hi Gareth, Can you please give the model and specifications for your friend's computer? Barry T Unfortunately not, until I return there this afternoon. Being a desktop it may not even have a model. All I know off hand is that it is a Pentium 4. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Constant crashing
On 30/05/14 07:07, Gareth France wrote: I recently installed Ubuntu on a friends computer as it was running painfully slowly with Windows. It is an older machine and the performance is now acceptable. However it appears that it is regularly hanging and requiring a forced reboot to cure this. When working on their broadband setup yesterday I witnessed this three times in a row, gave up and used my laptop instead. I have run the memory check that comes with Ubuntu and found no errors. I just wondered if anyone had any ideas how to track down the fault. Although slow Windows did not crash like this. Hi Gareth, Can you please give the model and specifications for your friend's computer? Barry T -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
