Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nonsensical jack sensing - A bug day idea
Forgive me if I misunderstand, but ALSA not in the process of being superseeded by PulseAudio? On 20 Feb 2009, 1:43 PM, Philip Wyett philwy...@gmx.com wrote: Hi all, Users of Linux with ALSA on laptops and other mobile devices have for years often been presented with the fun and games of sound working great but then plugging in headphones leaves you with no sound or sound coming out of speakers and headphones etc. This annoys many and makes distros look poor to the new user in some cases. Could we have a bug day for and in conjunction with ALSA to collect as much per user hardware and what they set to fix it i.e. the 'options' in alsa-base to maybe allow the ALSA project to make things better for all. Your thoughts would be appreciated? Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nonsensical jack sensing - A bug day idea
Pulseaudio is just another layer above alsa providing mixing amongst other things. Alsa is still used for outputting the sounds. Home Phone: 01242 676299 iPhone temporary number: 07549956765 Fax: 0871 528 8931 On 20 Feb 2009, at 15:11, Jacob Williams jacobw...@googlemail.com wrote: Forgive me if I misunderstand, but ALSA not in the process of being superseeded by PulseAudio? On 20 Feb 2009, 1:43 PM, Philip Wyett philwy...@gmx.com wrote: Hi all, Users of Linux with ALSA on laptops and other mobile devices have for years often been presented with the fun and games of sound working great but then plugging in headphones leaves you with no sound or sound coming out of speakers and headphones etc. This annoys many and makes distros look poor to the new user in some cases. Could we have a bug day for and in conjunction with ALSA to collect as much per user hardware and what they set to fix it i.e. the 'options' in alsa-base to maybe allow the ALSA project to make things better for all. Your thoughts would be appreciated? Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nonsensical jack sensing - A bug day idea
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Philip Wyett philwy...@gmx.com wrote: Hi all, Users of Linux with ALSA on laptops and other mobile devices have for years often been presented with the fun and games of sound working great but then plugging in headphones leaves you with no sound or sound coming out of speakers and headphones etc. This annoys many and makes distros look poor to the new user in some cases. Could we have a bug day for and in conjunction with ALSA to collect as much per user hardware and what they set to fix it i.e. the 'options' in alsa-base to maybe allow the ALSA project to make things better for all. Your thoughts would be appreciated? This would be great to look into. The 'options' parameters can be submitted to Alsa so that new distro releases will work out of the box. There is little knowledge among users on how to do this. Mainly on Ubuntu, the big issue is to make the integration of Pulseaudio as good as possible. VirtualBox, Skype and others do not work well out of the box. Simos -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nonsensical jack sensing - A bug day idea
On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 15:11 +, Jacob Williams wrote: Forgive me if I misunderstand, but ALSA not in the process of being superseeded by PulseAudio? As Alan indicated it is just another layer (a proxy) and supposedly a drop in replacement for ESD. To see how PulseAudio looks visually. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Pulseaudio-diagram.png Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nonsensical jack sensing - A bug day idea
On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 07:16 -0800, Dan Chen wrote: Hi, I recommend creating a wiki page with links to the generated URLs by alsa-info.sh[0] and sorting by SSID, e.g., SSID .. codec+revision .. output url Please be aware that the jack rework upstream is very active and, thus, those changes will not apply cleanly to any linux source shipped in Ubuntu. It's best to be running the kernel team's latest 2.6.29-rc vanilla kernel builds[1] if you're testing, because any changes made will be pushed to the sound-2.6 git tree. If you're not already familiar with hda-verb, I'm willing to donate an evening or several to walk people through it. [0] http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh [1] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ Thanks for the information about upstream jack sensing work. I shall take a look at that over the weekend. The script you linked to bails out with errors here. I will look at that later, but thank you for the link. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nonsensical jack sensing - A bug day idea
On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 17:53 +, Philip Wyett wrote: On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 07:16 -0800, Dan Chen wrote: Hi, I recommend creating a wiki page with links to the generated URLs by alsa-info.sh[0] and sorting by SSID, e.g., SSID .. codec+revision .. output url Please be aware that the jack rework upstream is very active and, thus, those changes will not apply cleanly to any linux source shipped in Ubuntu. It's best to be running the kernel team's latest 2.6.29-rc vanilla kernel builds[1] if you're testing, because any changes made will be pushed to the sound-2.6 git tree. If you're not already familiar with hda-verb, I'm willing to donate an evening or several to walk people through it. [0] http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh [1] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ Thanks for the information about upstream jack sensing work. I shall take a look at that over the weekend. The script you linked to bails out with errors here. I will look at that later, but thank you for the link. My own lazyness here. The script runs fine if the file is made executable and run. Running invoking with sh that sends to dasher it doesn't like. ;-) Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
