Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recommend a graphics card.

2009-11-24 Thread Rob Beard
javadayaz wrote:
> And how to upscale? do i just push a button and it will attempt to better?
>
I've found that generally whatever I use upscales the video anyway to 
fit the resolution.  For instance, MPlayer or Totem
 will happily upscale anything I chuck at it (DVDs, AVI videos) to my 
monitors native resolution, or there abouts otherwise it would only be a 
small square on the screen.

However if I play 720p HD videos, it just displays them at 1280x720 and 
leaves small borders on the screen at the top and bottom (although these 
are hardly noticeable) as my display is 1280x800.  if I try and play any 
1080p video it will scale it down to fit the screen.

I believe there are parameters you can specify to MPlayer (not sure 
about Totem) to change the scaler used.

All this is done using the on board Intel video chipset on my notebook, 
it runs fairly well (my notebook has a Core 2 Duo 2Ghz CPU), so you may 
find your existing on board graphics may be fine, but saying that, 
having the option to offload the decoding to the graphics card will 
possibly benefit you by possibly using less power (the CPU can clock 
down to around 1GHz rather than running at full pelt).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recommend a graphics card.

2009-11-24 Thread Rob Beard
javadayaz wrote:
> i am using a core 2 duo at the mo...but no graphics card...i am using 
> the onboards graphics chip...I have been for the past few years in fact.
>  
> which is a better option. PCI express, AGP or standard PCI?
Well if you have a Core 2 Duo I'd guess you wouldn't have an AGP slot.  
Out of the two, PCI Express is better than PCI as it's faster, newer and 
graphics cards are more widely available for PCI Express, and also cheaper.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recommend a graphics card.

2009-11-24 Thread javadayaz
And how to upscale? do i just push a button and it will attempt to better?

2009/11/24 Rob Beard 

> javadayaz wrote:
> > does this graphics card do most of the work...or does it pass it to
> > the processor?
> >
> A Geforce 8400GS will offload some if not all of the video decoding
> leaving the CPU free to do other things...
>
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_vdpau_gpu&num=1
>
> Rob
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recommend a graphics card.

2009-11-24 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 24/11/09 12:19, javadayaz wrote:
> can someone recommend a cheapish (£10-25) graphics card that will
> display/upscale to hd quality? I would like to display on 40" screen.
> pref on ebay.
> Easily set up on Ubuntu will be a plus!

I bought a 256MB Palit 9500GT, PCI-E 2.0(x16), 1600MHz GDDR3, GPU 
550MHz, 32 Cores, HDTV/ D-Sub/ DL DVI-I

Which is nice and fast enough. It is also passive (no fan) so is great 
for a HTPC.

HTH

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recommend a graphics card.

2009-11-24 Thread javadayaz
i am using a core 2 duo at the mo...but no graphics card...i am using the
onboards graphics chip...I have been for the past few years in fact.

which is a better option. PCI express, AGP or standard PCI?


2009/11/24 Rob Beard 

>  javadayaz wrote:
> > can someone recommend a cheapish (£10-25) graphics card that will
> > display/upscale to hd quality? I would like to display on 40" screen.
> > pref on ebay.
> >
> > Easily set up on Ubuntu will be a plus!
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> >
> > Javad
> Do you want PCI express, AGP or standard PCI?
>
> I'd suggest looking at the NVidia cards, I gather the 8400 or 9400 offer
> HD acceleration with VDPAU (which is supported as far as I know by
> MythTV and MPlayer).  VDPAU offloads some of the decoding of HD video to
> the graphics card...
>
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_vdpau_gpu&num=1
>
> NVidia have released a new range of Geforce cards, I believe the
> cheapest is the Geforce 210 although these seem to be going for about
> £30 to £40 at the moment.
>
> If you wanted a card about £20 you'd probably be looking at a Geforce
> 8400 or something along those lines.
>
> Saying that, if you have a reasonable spec CPU (Core 2 Duo, Athlon X2)
> and a recent ish graphics card you should be able to play HD video
> anyway, it just might have a higher CPU usage.
>
> Rob
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recommend a graphics card.

2009-11-24 Thread Rob Beard
javadayaz wrote:
> does this graphics card do most of the work...or does it pass it to 
> the processor?
>
A Geforce 8400GS will offload some if not all of the video decoding 
leaving the CPU free to do other things...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_vdpau_gpu&num=1

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recommend a graphics card.

2009-11-24 Thread Rob Beard
javadayaz wrote:
> can someone recommend a cheapish (£10-25) graphics card that will 
> display/upscale to hd quality? I would like to display on 40" screen.
> pref on ebay.
>  
> Easily set up on Ubuntu will be a plus!
>
> -- 
> Regards
>
> Javad
Do you want PCI express, AGP or standard PCI?

I'd suggest looking at the NVidia cards, I gather the 8400 or 9400 offer 
HD acceleration with VDPAU (which is supported as far as I know by 
MythTV and MPlayer).  VDPAU offloads some of the decoding of HD video to 
the graphics card...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_vdpau_gpu&num=1

NVidia have released a new range of Geforce cards, I believe the 
cheapest is the Geforce 210 although these seem to be going for about 
£30 to £40 at the moment.

If you wanted a card about £20 you'd probably be looking at a Geforce 
8400 or something along those lines.

Saying that, if you have a reasonable spec CPU (Core 2 Duo, Athlon X2) 
and a recent ish graphics card you should be able to play HD video 
anyway, it just might have a higher CPU usage.

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recommend a graphics card.

2009-11-24 Thread javadayaz
does this graphics card do most of the work...or does it pass it to the
processor?

2009/11/24 Adam Bagnall 

>
>
>   On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:19 PM, javadayaz  wrote:
>
>>   can someone recommend a cheapish (£10-25) graphics card that will
>> display/upscale to hd quality? I would like to display on 40" screen.
>> pref on ebay.
>>
>> Easily set up on Ubuntu will be a plus!
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Javad
>>
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>>
> An Nvidia 8400gs will do the job nicely. Not much use for gaming, but
> perfectly good for desktop use and hardware accelerated video playback. I've
> read reports that the 512mb ones are preferable for very high quality
> videos.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recommend a graphics card.

2009-11-24 Thread Adam Bagnall
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:19 PM, javadayaz  wrote:

> can someone recommend a cheapish (£10-25) graphics card that will
> display/upscale to hd quality? I would like to display on 40" screen.
> pref on ebay.
>
> Easily set up on Ubuntu will be a plus!
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Javad
>
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An Nvidia 8400gs will do the job nicely. Not much use for gaming, but
perfectly good for desktop use and hardware accelerated video playback. I've
read reports that the 512mb ones are preferable for very high quality
videos.
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