Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-03 Thread Bill B.
 On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 14:07 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
   I'd recommend any users who use Ubuntu One file services read this
   blog post from our CEO, Jane Silber:- 

It's just a thought [and probably too late anyway] but what if all the
free accounts were given the option to be paid accounts.  With no more
free a/c's surely there would be a way to make U1 a profit steam if the
charging was aimed correctly.  Perhaps Canonical has already looked into
that  thought about that option more than I have - in which case -
pardon my ignorance.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-03 Thread Gareth France

On 03/04/14 16:38, Bill B. wrote:

On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 14:07 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:

I'd recommend any users who use Ubuntu One file services read this
blog post from our CEO, Jane Silber:-

It's just a thought [and probably too late anyway] but what if all the
free accounts were given the option to be paid accounts.  With no more
free a/c's surely there would be a way to make U1 a profit steam if the
charging was aimed correctly.  Perhaps Canonical has already looked into
that  thought about that option more than I have - in which case -
pardon my ignorance.
99% of free accounts wouldn't go for paying and the numbers left after 
wouldn't stack up. They would have to charge far too much to cover the 
running costs.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-03 Thread Andrés


On 2 de abril de 2014 17:36:29 GMT+01:00, Gareth France 
gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/04/14 17:12, Paul Tansom wrote:
 ** Alan Pope a...@popey.com [2014-04-02 14:58]:
 On 2 April 2014 14:19, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Seems to be

http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/02/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/
 now
 Yeah, the blog date was massaged just after I sent the mail.
 Apparently people don't believe you if you post announcements with
the
 date being 1st April. Who knew? :)
 ** end quote [Alan Pope]

 Ah well, I never did get it working on anything but my phone. I
battled for a
 while and then stuck with Dropbox, not sure whether I'm glad of that
now or not
 since I'm planning to move anyway as Dropbox have just completely
screwed my
 data - 
This is the exact reason I stopped using U1 for anything heavy or 
important. It just wasn't intelligent enough to know what I wanted it
to do.


I was using U1 at the begining to sync my todolist (tomboy notes) across all my 
devices, even n900!  But they stopped supporting that. now i was just using it 
to share files publicly. Plus, dropbox was blocked at work for security 
reasons. 

owncloud seems like the best option or one of those unhosted or torrent 
options. Wasn't  own cloud a kde project? 

What is ubuntu going to use to sync phone and desktop? I feel it needs 
something by default to sync devices. to keep with the uniformity mentioned on 
the blog post.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-02 Thread Simon Greenwood
Seems to be
http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/02/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/now

Hmm, maybe it's time to build my own owncloud...




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 I'd recommend any users who use Ubuntu One file services read this
 blog post from our CEO, Jane Silber:-


 http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/01/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/

 Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-02 Thread Colin Law
So what does that mean for those using the ubuntu backup facility with
Ubuntu one?

Colin

On 2 April 2014 14:19, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Seems to be
 http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/02/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/
 now

 Hmm, maybe it's time to build my own owncloud...




 On 2 April 2014 14:07, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:

 I'd recommend any users who use Ubuntu One file services read this
 blog post from our CEO, Jane Silber:-


 http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/01/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/

 Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-02 Thread Peter Smout

On 02/04/14 14:19, Simon Greenwood wrote:

Seems to be
http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/02/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/
now

Hmm, maybe it's time to build my own owncloud...




On 2 April 2014 14:07, Alan Pope a...@popey.com
mailto:a...@popey.com wrote:

I'd recommend any users who use Ubuntu One file services read this
blog post from our CEO, Jane Silber:-

http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/01/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/

Cheers,
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Hi,

Seems a shame but I can understand the reasoning behind it does mean 
that the next time I'm on a decent Internet connection (yes there are 
still parts of the UK that can only get less than 1mbs) I will have to 
spend it d-l'ing my content :(


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-02 Thread Alan Pope
On 2 April 2014 14:19, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Seems to be
 http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/02/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/
 now


Yeah, the blog date was massaged just after I sent the mail.
Apparently people don't believe you if you post announcements with the
date being 1st April. Who knew? :)

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-02 Thread Bill B.
On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 14:07 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
 I'd recommend any users who use Ubuntu One file services read this
 blog post from our CEO, Jane Silber:-
 
 http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/01/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/
 
 Cheers,
 Al.
 

The most annoying thing
 - the U1 home page still wants you to sign up;
 - the services page still offers all the options for downloading apps.

Has anyone else wondered if perhaps this has not been thought through
properly?  Sure, it was nice [ gratefully received] while it existed...
but to discontinue and offer [con?] at the same time time is wrong 
gives a bad impression imho.

However, I *do* thank Ubuntu for the free storage whilst it lasted and
for offering reasonable notice [and an extension to reclaim ya stuff].
...but 'tis a sad loss.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-02 Thread Mike Hingley
 From: boo...@gmail.com
 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 15:05:52 +0100
 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services
 
 On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 14:07 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
  I'd recommend any users who use Ubuntu One file services read this
  blog post from our CEO, Jane Silber:-
  
  http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/01/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/
  
  Cheers,
  Al.
  
 
 The most annoying thing
  - the U1 home page still wants you to sign up;
  - the services page still offers all the options for downloading apps.
 
 Has anyone else wondered if perhaps this has not been thought through
 properly?  Sure, it was nice [ gratefully received] while it existed...
 but to discontinue and offer [con?] at the same time time is wrong 
 gives a bad impression imho.
 
 However, I *do* thank Ubuntu for the free storage whilst it lasted and
 for offering reasonable notice [and an extension to reclaim ya stuff].
 ...but 'tis a sad loss.
 
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While there are file storage solutions out there, I also use U1 to sync my 
desktops - I sync a Keepass DB between my machines, and even a gramps folder.  
And I was even able to sync to my android phone.  I shall miss U1 :(
Any recommendations for replacement options?  Can I do that with owncloud?
thanks
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-02 Thread Gareth France

On 02/04/14 15:22, Mike Hingley wrote:

 From: boo...@gmail.com
 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 15:05:52 +0100
 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

 On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 14:07 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
  I'd recommend any users who use Ubuntu One file services read this
  blog post from our CEO, Jane Silber:-
 
  
http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/01/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/

 
  Cheers,
  Al.
 

 The most annoying thing
 - the U1 home page still wants you to sign up;
 - the services page still offers all the options for downloading apps.

 Has anyone else wondered if perhaps this has not been thought through
 properly? Sure, it was nice [ gratefully received] while it existed...
 but to discontinue and offer [con?] at the same time time is wrong 
 gives a bad impression imho.

 However, I *do* thank Ubuntu for the free storage whilst it lasted and
 for offering reasonable notice [and an extension to reclaim ya stuff].
 ...but 'tis a sad loss.

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While there are file storage solutions out there, I also use U1 to 
sync my desktops - I sync a Keepass DB between my machines, and even a 
gramps folder.  And I was even able to sync to my android phone.  I 
shall miss U1 :(


Any recommendations for replacement options?  Can I do that with owncloud?

thanks

Mike Hingley



The link provided seems to be showing up as a 404 error. If what I've 
gathered from this post is correct that's very sad. It's so handy having 
my photos off my phone download to my desktop automatically.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-02 Thread YaManicKill
Spideroak allows you to sync any file of folder anywhere on your computer.
It is also encrypted with your password. Very nice.

I'd recommend that, the rest of them just sync a folder, which is a bit
annoying.

Alistair
On 2 Apr 2014 15:22, Mike Hingley computa_m...@hotmail.com wrote:

  From: boo...@gmail.com
  To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
  Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 15:05:52 +0100
  Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services
 
  On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 14:07 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
   I'd recommend any users who use Ubuntu One file services read this
   blog post from our CEO, Jane Silber:-
  
  
 http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/01/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/
  
   Cheers,
   Al.
  
 
  The most annoying thing
  - the U1 home page still wants you to sign up;
  - the services page still offers all the options for downloading apps.
 
  Has anyone else wondered if perhaps this has not been thought through
  properly? Sure, it was nice [ gratefully received] while it existed...
  but to discontinue and offer [con?] at the same time time is wrong 
  gives a bad impression imho.
 
  However, I *do* thank Ubuntu for the free storage whilst it lasted and
  for offering reasonable notice [and an extension to reclaim ya stuff].
  ...but 'tis a sad loss.
 
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 While there are file storage solutions out there, I also use U1 to sync my
 desktops - I sync a Keepass DB between my machines, and even a gramps
 folder.  And I was even able to sync to my android phone.  I shall miss U1
 :(

 Any recommendations for replacement options?  Can I do that with owncloud?

 thanks

 Mike Hingley


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-02 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 2 April 2014 15:26, YaManicKill mailingl...@10people.co.uk wrote:

 Spideroak allows you to sync any file of folder anywhere on your computer.
 It is also encrypted with your password. Very nice.

 I'd recommend that, the rest of them just sync a folder, which is a bit
 annoying.



Spideroak is about the best but it's not as consistent across machines as
Ubuntu One. I've managed to confuse it considerably where Ubuntu One has
hiccups but does seem to be consistent.

s/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-02 Thread Simon Greenwood
Having said that, I found Bitcasa just before Google Drive announced their
$10 for a terabyte deal and use that as my offsite backup. No sync system
but a supported FUSE based filesystem (in beta). If anyone fancies trying
them out (and giving me a bit of extra space) they can do so by clicking
here: http://l.bitcasa.com/n6j02kWQ

s/


On 2 April 2014 15:29, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote:




 On 2 April 2014 15:26, YaManicKill mailingl...@10people.co.uk wrote:

 Spideroak allows you to sync any file of folder anywhere on your
 computer. It is also encrypted with your password. Very nice.

 I'd recommend that, the rest of them just sync a folder, which is a bit
 annoying.



 Spideroak is about the best but it's not as consistent across machines as
 Ubuntu One. I've managed to confuse it considerably where Ubuntu One has
 hiccups but does seem to be consistent.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-02 Thread YaManicKill
On 2 April 2014 15:36, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Having said that, I found Bitcasa just before Google Drive announced their
 $10 for a terabyte deal and use that as my offsite backup. No sync system
 but a supported FUSE based filesystem (in beta). If anyone fancies trying
 them out (and giving me a bit of extra space) they can do so by clicking
 here: http://l.bitcasa.com/n6j02kWQ

 s/


I remember looking at them before, and they said they were working on a
linux client. Just checked, and their beta is out:
https://www.bitcasa.com/download-linux

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-02 Thread SuperEngineer
On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 14:22 +, Mike Hingley wrote:
  From: boo...@gmail.com
  To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
  Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 15:05:52 +0100
  Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services
  
  On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 14:07 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
   I'd recommend any users who use Ubuntu One file services read this
   blog post from our CEO, Jane Silber:-
   
   http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/01/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/
   
   Cheers,
   Al.
   
  
  The most annoying thing
   - the U1 home page still wants you to sign up;
   - the services page still offers all the options for downloading apps.
  
  Has anyone else wondered if perhaps this has not been thought through
  properly?  Sure, it was nice [ gratefully received] while it existed...
  but to discontinue and offer [con?] at the same time time is wrong 
  gives a bad impression imho.
  
  However, I *do* thank Ubuntu for the free storage whilst it lasted and
  for offering reasonable notice [and an extension to reclaim ya stuff].
  ...but 'tis a sad loss.
  
  -- 
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 While there are file storage solutions out there, I also use U1 to sync my 
 desktops - I sync a Keepass DB between my machines, and even a gramps folder. 
  And I was even able to sync to my android phone.  I shall miss U1 :(
 Any recommendations for replacement options?  Can I do that with owncloud?
 thanks
 Mike Hingley
 

Mike,
I always counted U1 as something that would someday fail or cease.  as
such I always carry a USB stick and all my synchronised stuff gets
copied to that as well [I use grsync for what it's worth].  
it really isn't too much effort to re-sync my pooters from the usb stick
- but... not so nice as u! [sob].

I hope the close date is accurate  - I've already asked  interflora if
they can send u1 a wreath!  ;)

holding back the tears...
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-02 Thread Mark Fraser
On Wednesday 02 Apr 2014 14:07:51 Alan Pope wrote:
 I'd recommend any users who use Ubuntu One file services read this
 blog post from our CEO, Jane Silber:-
 
 http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/01/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/
 
 Cheers,
 Al.

Gave up with it after they didn't really bother trying to integrate it into 
Kubuntu as well.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-02 Thread SuperEngineer
On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 14:07 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
 I'd recommend any users who use Ubuntu One file services read this
 blog post from our CEO, Jane Silber:-
 
 http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/01/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/
 
 Cheers,
 Al.
 
It occurs to me that I *really* haven't sounded annoyed enough about
this closure of what was [to me] a free service.
Hurumph

[is that better?]  ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-02 Thread Paul White
 I'd recommend any users who use Ubuntu One file services read this blog
post from our CEO, Jane Silber:-

 http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/01/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/

All files removed from Ubuntu One. Android app removed from my Samsung S3.

As a Kubuntu user, Ubuntu One never really got used here as the
integration with my OS was simply not there.

Anyway, it was free storage as far as I am concerned so I won't complain. ;o)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-02 Thread Paul Tansom
** Alan Pope a...@popey.com [2014-04-02 14:58]:
 On 2 April 2014 14:19, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote:
  Seems to be
  http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/02/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/
  now
 
 Yeah, the blog date was massaged just after I sent the mail.
 Apparently people don't believe you if you post announcements with the
 date being 1st April. Who knew? :)
** end quote [Alan Pope]

Ah well, I never did get it working on anything but my phone. I battled for a
while and then stuck with Dropbox, not sure whether I'm glad of that now or not
since I'm planning to move anyway as Dropbox have just completely screwed my
data - I tidied things up and reorganised directories and following that
they've synced all my changes up to the server and all the files on the server
that were in the original locations have been sync'd back down to my PC.
Unfortunately I didn't twig quickly enough, so with applications remembering
where documents were I now have some updates in the new locations and some in
the old. To make matters worse some of my personal files have been sync'd up to
a shared folder that I don't own (only my wife's but it could have been worse).

Any chance the U1 software will be released as packages in the Ubuntu
repositories? Clearly somebody needs to take on maintenance of it, but it could
be an interesting competitor to Owncloud.

Younited from F-Secure is where I was thinking of moving, but I'm having issues
getting the Windows client installed (not a major issue as I rarely use
Windows). More significantly the Linux client (in beta) doesn't support 32 bit
(there goes support for my netbook) or Ubuntu 12.04 (another problem for my
netbook). Off to investigate Owncloud and SpiderOak I think!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-02 Thread TT Mooney
Hi Al --

Any chance of releasing the server source, now that the project is being
discontinued?

Kind regards,

travis

On 02/04/14 15:22, ubuntu-uk-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote:
 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 14:07:51 +0100
 From: Alan Pope a...@popey.com
 To: British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services
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 I'd recommend any users who use Ubuntu One file services read this
 blog post from our CEO, Jane Silber:-
 
 http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/01/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/
 
 Cheers,
 Al.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-02 Thread Alan Pope
On 2 April 2014 19:13, TT Mooney ttmoo...@dilettantism.com wrote:
 Any chance of releasing the server source, now that the project is being
 discontinued?


 Additionally, we continue to believe in the Ubuntu One file
services, the quality of the code, and the user experience, so will
release the code as open source software to give others an opportunity
to build on this code to create an open source file syncing platform.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-02 Thread TT Mooney
Someday I'll learn to read all the way through before asking questions.
Someday!

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 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 19:15:07 +0100
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 On 2 April 2014 19:13, TT Mooney ttmoo...@dilettantism.com wrote:
  Any chance of releasing the server source, now that the project is being
  discontinued?
 
  Additionally, we continue to believe in the Ubuntu One file
 services, the quality of the code, and the user experience, so will
 release the code as open source software to give others an opportunity
 to build on this code to create an open source file syncing platform.
 
 :)
 
 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

2014-04-02 Thread Barry Drake

On 02/04/14 17:12, Paul Tansom wrote:

Ah well, I never did get it working on anything but my phone. I 
battled for a while and then stuck with Dropbox, not sure whether I'm 
glad of that now or not since I'm planning to move anyway as Dropbox 
have just completely screwed my data - I tidied things up and 
reorganised directories and following that they've synced all my 
changes up to the server and all the files on the server that were in 
the original locations have been sync'd back down to my PC.


I set up dropbox way back and found it useful, but stuck with U1 for all 
the important stuff.  I got around some of the Dropbox problems by 
creating symlinks in the dropbox directory to all the directories I 
wanted to sync.  I think I'll be going back to that method, but - sigh! 
- I really liked U1 in spite of its quirks.


Regards,Barry.

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