Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Neil Greenwood]

On 23 April 2010 09:14, Bob Clough  wrote:
> Though the update has stopped gdm starting on boot!  Anyone know where
> the config file for that is stored on 9.10?  I was assuming init.d/
> but it isnt there!
>

Try /etc/init instead, no '.d'!


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Bob Clough]

When you get to that screen, dont tick anything, just click forward.
Grub is installed in the EFI partition on your pendrive, so you dont
want to mess with it.

Though the update has stopped gdm starting on boot!  Anyone know where
the config file for that is stored on 9.10?  I was assuming init.d/
but it isnt there!

On 21 April 2010 22:04, Colin Law  wrote:
> On 21 April 2010 21:31, Chris Rowson  wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>> installing the updates, it is now asking me which partitions to
>>> install grub on, with a choice of /dev/sda and /dev/mmcblk0 and I
>>> don't know which (or both) to select.  Are those the two partitions on
>>> the stick or is one the internal flash in the joggler?
>>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi Colin,
>>
>> /dev/mmcblk0 refers tonthe internal memory. I wouldn't stick grub there
>> because it'll interfere with the default install.
>>
>> The internal mmc looks like this in fdisk
>>
>>          Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks  Id System
>>  /dev/mmcblk0p1   *           1        1954       62520  ef EFI
>> (FAT-12/16/32)
>>  /dev/mmcblk0p2            1955        9768      250048  83 Linux
>>
>>  /dev/mmcblk0p3            9769       17582      250048  83 Linux
>>  /dev/mmcblk0p4           17583       31376      441408  83 Linux
>>
>
> OK, thanks
>
> In fact I was stuck anyway, I had been moving my keyboard and mouse
> between the joggler and my pc as the joggler updated, and having got
> to the screen asking where it should install grub it would not
> recognise the keyboard again.
> Reading the latest stuff on the wiki I think I will just start again
> with the latest image there.   At least that is no big deal.
>
> Colin
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Colin Law]

On 21 April 2010 21:31, Chris Rowson  wrote:
> 
>>
>> installing the updates, it is now asking me which partitions to
>> install grub on, with a choice of /dev/sda and /dev/mmcblk0 and I
>> don't know which (or both) to select.  Are those the two partitions on
>> the stick or is one the internal flash in the joggler?
>>
> 
>
> Hi Colin,
>
> /dev/mmcblk0 refers tonthe internal memory. I wouldn't stick grub there
> because it'll interfere with the default install.
>
> The internal mmc looks like this in fdisk
>
>  Device Boot  Start End  Blocks  Id System
>  /dev/mmcblk0p1   *   11954   62520  ef EFI
> (FAT-12/16/32)
>  /dev/mmcblk0p219559768  250048  83 Linux
>
>  /dev/mmcblk0p39769   17582  250048  83 Linux
>  /dev/mmcblk0p4   17583   31376  441408  83 Linux
>

OK, thanks

In fact I was stuck anyway, I had been moving my keyboard and mouse
between the joggler and my pc as the joggler updated, and having got
to the screen asking where it should install grub it would not
recognise the keyboard again.
Reading the latest stuff on the wiki I think I will just start again
with the latest image there.   At least that is no big deal.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Chris Rowson]

> installing the updates, it is now asking me which partitions to
> install grub on, with a choice of /dev/sda and /dev/mmcblk0 and I
> don't know which (or both) to select.  Are those the two partitions on
> the stick or is one the internal flash in the joggler?
>
> 

Hi Colin,

/dev/mmcblk0 refers tonthe internal memory. I wouldn't stick grub there
because it'll interfere with the default install.

The internal mmc looks like this in fdisk

 Device Boot  Start End  Blocks  Id System
 /dev/mmcblk0p1   *   11954   62520  ef EFI (FAT-12/16/32)
 /dev/mmcblk0p219559768  250048  83 Linux
 /dev/mmcblk0p39769   17582  250048  83 Linux
 /dev/mmcblk0p4   17583   31376  441408  83 Linux



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Les]

Thanks for the tip Popey.
I am enjoying the standard UI at the moment, I am sure that it will wear
off over time though. Mainly due to me wanting a web browser on the
joggler.

On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 20:47 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
> On 21 April 2010 20:40, Colin Law  wrote:
> > So has mine.  I setup my usb stick and it boots into UNR fine.  I then did
> > sudo apt-get update
> > sudo apt-get upgrade
> 
> Yeah, don't do that :)
> 
> http://jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix
> 
> "A package update broke my boot and seems to do the same for others too.
> I recommend at the moment package updates are turned off."
> 
> Cheers,
> Al.
> 



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Alan Pope]

On 21 April 2010 20:40, Colin Law  wrote:
> So has mine.  I setup my usb stick and it boots into UNR fine.  I then did
> sudo apt-get update
> sudo apt-get upgrade

Yeah, don't do that :)

http://jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix

"A package update broke my boot and seems to do the same for others too.
I recommend at the moment package updates are turned off."

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Colin Law]

On 21 April 2010 18:12, Les  wrote:
> My joggler has finally arrived!
> Let the hacking commence LOL
>

So has mine.  I setup my usb stick and it boots into UNR fine.  I then did
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
and it collected 200MB or thereabouts and spent a couple of hours
installing the updates, it is now asking me which partitions to
install grub on, with a choice of /dev/sda and /dev/mmcblk0 and I
don't know which (or both) to select.  Are those the two partitions on
the stick or is one the internal flash in the joggler?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Les]

My joggler has finally arrived!
Let the hacking commence LOL

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On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 12:06 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12 April 2010 18:30, Chris Rowson
>  wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Kris Douglas
>  wrote:
> >>
> >> On 12 April 2010 17:28, Daniel Case
>  wrote:
> >> > Did you modify the boot files in partition 1 so it linked
> correctly to
> >> > the
> >> > new kernal?
> >>
> >> I'd say yes, but I honestly don't know, I used my poor
> knowledge of
> >> grub to change the boot line in grub.conf to the new kern,
> but that's
> >> about as 'changed' as it got.
> >>
> >
> > Try copy initrd & vmlinuz from the ext3 partition on your
> USB stick to the
> > fat16 boot partition on your stick, then point your
> grub.conf at these
> > files.
> 
> 
> Am I right to assume that if I were to update the kernel
> through
> update-manager, and i then copied those kernel files onto the
> FAT16
> partition, it would boot using the new shiny kern?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> AFAIK ;-) You'd have to try it and update the entries in grub.conf to
> point at the newly created files.
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Chris Rowson]

> On 12 April 2010 18:30, Chris Rowson  wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Kris Douglas 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 12 April 2010 17:28, Daniel Case 
> wrote:
> >> > Did you modify the boot files in partition 1 so it linked correctly to
> >> > the
> >> > new kernal?
> >>
> >> I'd say yes, but I honestly don't know, I used my poor knowledge of
> >> grub to change the boot line in grub.conf to the new kern, but that's
> >> about as 'changed' as it got.
> >>
> >
> > Try copy initrd & vmlinuz from the ext3 partition on your USB stick to
> the
> > fat16 boot partition on your stick, then point your grub.conf at these
> > files.
>
> Am I right to assume that if I were to update the kernel through
> update-manager, and i then copied those kernel files onto the FAT16
> partition, it would boot using the new shiny kern?
>
>
>
AFAIK ;-) You'd have to try it and update the entries in grub.conf to point
at the newly created files.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Kris Douglas]

On 12 April 2010 18:30, Chris Rowson  wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Kris Douglas  wrote:
>>
>> On 12 April 2010 17:28, Daniel Case  wrote:
>> > Did you modify the boot files in partition 1 so it linked correctly to
>> > the
>> > new kernal?
>>
>> I'd say yes, but I honestly don't know, I used my poor knowledge of
>> grub to change the boot line in grub.conf to the new kern, but that's
>> about as 'changed' as it got.
>>
>
> Try copy initrd & vmlinuz from the ext3 partition on your USB stick to the
> fat16 boot partition on your stick, then point your grub.conf at these
> files.

Am I right to assume that if I were to update the kernel through
update-manager, and i then copied those kernel files onto the FAT16
partition, it would boot using the new shiny kern?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Kris Douglas]

On 12 April 2010 18:25, Kris Douglas  wrote:
> On 12 April 2010 17:37, Kris Douglas  wrote:
>> On 12 April 2010 17:28, Daniel Case  wrote:
>>> Did you modify the boot files in partition 1 so it linked correctly to the
>>> new kernal?
>>
>> I'd say yes, but I honestly don't know, I used my poor knowledge of
>> grub to change the boot line in grub.conf to the new kern, but that's
>> about as 'changed' as it got.
>
> Ive managed to get ubuntu 9.10 to boot, but startx gives me a
> permissions error saying it can't write some files, fstab only has a
> proc line and a "UUID=[long string of device id chars] / ext3
> errors=remount-ro 1" line, should this be commented out and replaced
> with "/dev/sda2 / ext3 errors=remount-ro 1"?
>

Nevermind, I forgot to fsck & fix the FS :)



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Chris Rowson]

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Kris Douglas  wrote:

> On 12 April 2010 17:28, Daniel Case  wrote:
> > Did you modify the boot files in partition 1 so it linked correctly to
> the
> > new kernal?
>
> I'd say yes, but I honestly don't know, I used my poor knowledge of
> grub to change the boot line in grub.conf to the new kern, but that's
> about as 'changed' as it got.
>
>
Try copy initrd & vmlinuz from the ext3 partition on your USB stick to the
fat16 boot partition on your stick, then point your grub.conf at these
files.

Regards

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Kris Douglas]

On 12 April 2010 17:37, Kris Douglas  wrote:
> On 12 April 2010 17:28, Daniel Case  wrote:
>> Did you modify the boot files in partition 1 so it linked correctly to the
>> new kernal?
>
> I'd say yes, but I honestly don't know, I used my poor knowledge of
> grub to change the boot line in grub.conf to the new kern, but that's
> about as 'changed' as it got.

Ive managed to get ubuntu 9.10 to boot, but startx gives me a
permissions error saying it can't write some files, fstab only has a
proc line and a "UUID=[long string of device id chars] / ext3
errors=remount-ro 1" line, should this be commented out and replaced
with "/dev/sda2 / ext3 errors=remount-ro 1"?



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Kris Douglas]

On 12 April 2010 17:28, Daniel Case  wrote:
> Did you modify the boot files in partition 1 so it linked correctly to the
> new kernal?

I'd say yes, but I honestly don't know, I used my poor knowledge of
grub to change the boot line in grub.conf to the new kern, but that's
about as 'changed' as it got.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Daniel Case]

Did you modify the boot files in partition 1 so it linked correctly to the
new kernal?

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Kris Douglas  wrote:

> On 12 April 2010 15:35, Alan Pope  wrote:
> > On 12 April 2010 16:31, Daniel Case  wrote:
> >> Kris, i have had a quick look through the files and they should work
> with
> >> 10.04, but theres only one way to find out ;)
> >>
> >> If you do manage it, let me know (also let me know if it breaks and i
> will
> >> have a look see why) :)
>
> It didn't work, it just hung on boot (as in openpeak logo), i'm going
> to try a 9.10 disk to see if that boots off my stick, if that works i
> shall then experiment with 10.04 again, any help further would be
> appreciated, i may have got the boot file wrong or something.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Kris Douglas]

On 12 April 2010 15:35, Alan Pope  wrote:
> On 12 April 2010 16:31, Daniel Case  wrote:
>> Kris, i have had a quick look through the files and they should work with
>> 10.04, but theres only one way to find out ;)
>>
>> If you do manage it, let me know (also let me know if it breaks and i will
>> have a look see why) :)

It didn't work, it just hung on boot (as in openpeak logo), i'm going
to try a 9.10 disk to see if that boots off my stick, if that works i
shall then experiment with 10.04 again, any help further would be
appreciated, i may have got the boot file wrong or something.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Alan Pope]

On 12 April 2010 16:31, Daniel Case  wrote:
> Kris, i have had a quick look through the files and they should work with
> 10.04, but theres only one way to find out ;)
>
> If you do manage it, let me know (also let me know if it breaks and i will
> have a look see why) :)
>

It would be preferable (for me) to be able to do a stock install and
then know what needs to be changed (options tweaked, programs
downloaded/compiled) and do that myself rather than untar a massive
ball of binaries over the filesystem. It works but it's an horrific
way to build a bootable system.

It would also make it easier to figure out how to make this
maintainable ongoing.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Daniel Case]

Kris, i have had a quick look through the files and they should work with
10.04, but theres only one way to find out ;)

If you do manage it, let me know (also let me know if it breaks and i will
have a look see why) :)

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Kris Douglas  wrote:

> On 8 April 2010 13:48, Daniel Case  wrote:
> > Alright :)
> >
> > I'l put it here and on the etherpad, i mainly followed this guild:
> > http://magician.gforums.de/wiki/index.php5?title=UNE_Installation
> > but a lot of it is wrong, and one of its packages is packaged badly, so
> iv
> > repackaged them both and attatched:
> >
> > 1: plug your **USB stick into another linux machine, format it so that
> you
> > have an ms-dos partition table, 100MB fat16 partition, and an ext3
> > partition, this can be done in a program like gparted.
> >
> > Its important that you do this outside of the installer as otherwise, it
> > will fail.
> >
> > ** I used a 4GB stick, and i have heard that it fails on much larger
> sticks
> > (16GB) a way to maybe resolve this would be to make the ext3 partition
> below
> > 4GB, but i havent tested as i do not have a larger memory stick on me
> > 2: write the Ubuntu Netbook Remix (here:
> > http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download-netbook) to a disk (it failed
> when
> > i tried to do it through a VM) and boot from it, once you are at the boot
> > menu, select "Install Ubuntu Netbook Remix" (2nd option)
> >
> > 3: Once it has loaded the installer, insert the USB stick you partitioned
> > earlier and choose your settings as normal until you get to the
> partitioning
> > page. Make sure you click "Specify Partitions Manually"
> >
> > 4: Click on the ext3 partition on the USB drive, and make sure it is used
> as
> > /, but do not format it, then ensure that if you are installing on a
> > computer with linux already on it that it is not using the original swap
> > space, in order to stop it you just need to select the swap partition,
> and
> > set it to "Do Not Use"
> >
> > 4: Click next, it should give you a warning about not using the FAT16
> > partition, and a warning about the swap space, you can safely disregard
> both
> > of these.
> >
> > 5: Now that the partitioning is done, keep clicking next until you get to
> > the final screen (where it says install and gives you a rundown) look
> > through the settings and ensure nothing is being formatted, then click
> > "Advance" and untick the "Install bootloader" box.
> >
> > 6: Click install, and go get some coffee because its going to take a
> while
> > (mine took just under 2 hours, reminds me of the good ol' windows 98
> > installation days)
> >
> > 7: Download the following two files:
> > http://www.newforumnetwork.com/files/joggler_partition1_fat16.tar.bz2
> > http://www.newforumnetwork.com/files/joggler_partition2_ext3.tar.gz
> >
> > 8: Put the USB stick into your linux machine (dont boot from it yet) and
> > extract each archive into the correct partition, make sure they dont go
> into
> > a folder, when you extract the second archive it will ask about
> overwriting,
> > just select yes to all.
> >
> > 9: Go into the second partition on the USB stick and find: /etc/fstab
> > Once you have found it, comment everything out apart from your ext3
> > partition, and the /proc line.
> >
> > 10: Insert the USB stick into a USB hub with a keyboard and boot up, give
> it
> > a minute or two and you should see some terminal
> > code with an error, this is because the Joggler doesn't save the time, so
> it
> > thinks its somewhere in 1980, simple fix, drop down
> > to the maintinance shell using ctrl+D and run fsck, then reboot using
> > "shutdown -r now"
> >
> > And thats it, your 10-step guide to booting UNR :D
>
> This guide was great thanks, I'm just at the stage where you have to
> add the files from the archives you linked to. I have decided, for no
> real reason, to use 10.04, are the archives compatible with this
> version of ubuntu, or am I going to have to change some details?
>
> Any advice would be appreciated.
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Kris Douglas]

On 8 April 2010 13:48, Daniel Case  wrote:
> Alright :)
>
> I'l put it here and on the etherpad, i mainly followed this guild:
> http://magician.gforums.de/wiki/index.php5?title=UNE_Installation
> but a lot of it is wrong, and one of its packages is packaged badly, so iv
> repackaged them both and attatched:
>
> 1: plug your **USB stick into another linux machine, format it so that you
> have an ms-dos partition table, 100MB fat16 partition, and an ext3
> partition, this can be done in a program like gparted.
>
> Its important that you do this outside of the installer as otherwise, it
> will fail.
>
> ** I used a 4GB stick, and i have heard that it fails on much larger sticks
> (16GB) a way to maybe resolve this would be to make the ext3 partition below
> 4GB, but i havent tested as i do not have a larger memory stick on me
> 2: write the Ubuntu Netbook Remix (here:
> http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download-netbook) to a disk (it failed when
> i tried to do it through a VM) and boot from it, once you are at the boot
> menu, select "Install Ubuntu Netbook Remix" (2nd option)
>
> 3: Once it has loaded the installer, insert the USB stick you partitioned
> earlier and choose your settings as normal until you get to the partitioning
> page. Make sure you click "Specify Partitions Manually"
>
> 4: Click on the ext3 partition on the USB drive, and make sure it is used as
> /, but do not format it, then ensure that if you are installing on a
> computer with linux already on it that it is not using the original swap
> space, in order to stop it you just need to select the swap partition, and
> set it to "Do Not Use"
>
> 4: Click next, it should give you a warning about not using the FAT16
> partition, and a warning about the swap space, you can safely disregard both
> of these.
>
> 5: Now that the partitioning is done, keep clicking next until you get to
> the final screen (where it says install and gives you a rundown) look
> through the settings and ensure nothing is being formatted, then click
> "Advance" and untick the "Install bootloader" box.
>
> 6: Click install, and go get some coffee because its going to take a while
> (mine took just under 2 hours, reminds me of the good ol' windows 98
> installation days)
>
> 7: Download the following two files:
> http://www.newforumnetwork.com/files/joggler_partition1_fat16.tar.bz2
> http://www.newforumnetwork.com/files/joggler_partition2_ext3.tar.gz
>
> 8: Put the USB stick into your linux machine (dont boot from it yet) and
> extract each archive into the correct partition, make sure they dont go into
> a folder, when you extract the second archive it will ask about overwriting,
> just select yes to all.
>
> 9: Go into the second partition on the USB stick and find: /etc/fstab
> Once you have found it, comment everything out apart from your ext3
> partition, and the /proc line.
>
> 10: Insert the USB stick into a USB hub with a keyboard and boot up, give it
> a minute or two and you should see some terminal
> code with an error, this is because the Joggler doesn't save the time, so it
> thinks its somewhere in 1980, simple fix, drop down
> to the maintinance shell using ctrl+D and run fsck, then reboot using
> "shutdown -r now"
>
> And thats it, your 10-step guide to booting UNR :D

This guide was great thanks, I'm just at the stage where you have to
add the files from the archives you linked to. I have decided, for no
real reason, to use 10.04, are the archives compatible with this
version of ubuntu, or am I going to have to change some details?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Philip Stubbs]

On 9 April 2010 15:51, John Stevenson  wrote:
> Just bought my Joggler online.

I ordered mine on the 6 th. My Credit Card was debited the same day. I
emailed them to see why I have not even received a confirmation, and
it appears they are out of stock, and will send one 'soon'.

Just pinged them another email saying that as they already have my
money, they better reply saying that mine is due in 24 hours. We will
see what happens. :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Les]

I've just bought one from the O2 website.
I spoke to a member of staff in my local store and they said that they
also had no stock (Blackpool).

By the way loving the work that has gone here on this week,you guys are
really up for a challenge.

Les

On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 15:51 +0100, John Stevenson wrote:
> Just bought my Joggler online.  
> 
> Talking to assistant in O2 shop, she was saying they are sold out in
> all the shops in London.  New deliveries are expected on Thurdsay
> apparently.
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[John Stevenson]

Just bought my Joggler online.

Talking to assistant in O2 shop, she was saying they are sold out in all the
shops in London.  New deliveries are expected on Thurdsay apparently.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Bob Clough]

Knew i wouldnt be able to hold out for long, just bought one!

On 8 April 2010 21:28, Daniel Case  wrote:

> I have sent the email, its currently awaiting approval, the alsa sh file
> asked me if i wanted to upload it the second time round, so it is now
> located here:
> http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=4012bb42964e3c87ae7ff4e0561d9ee9d3eb5e2c
>
> Versions and everything, thats what i gave the devel list.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Daniel Case]

I have sent the email, its currently awaiting approval, the alsa sh file
asked me if i wanted to upload it the second time round, so it is now
located here:
http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=4012bb42964e3c87ae7ff4e0561d9ee9d3eb5e2c

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Simos Xenitellis]

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Daniel Case  wrote:
> I have fixed the problem with the help of some guys in #mer
>
> Sound, does not work out of the box but will work once the last line has
> been removed from /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
>
> However in order to fix the crackling you must plug the USB stick into a
> host computer, and change the name of
> /etc/lib/KERNALVERSION/kernal/drivers/acpi/processor.ko on the second
> partition.
>
> I have added it to the wiki and the Etherpad :)
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Daniel Case 
> wrote:
>>
>> I managed to obtain a new USB stick and run the ALSA tester, i uploaded
>> the results to my new wiki page:
>>
>> http://www.jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Alsa
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Thomas Ibbotson
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 8 April 2010 16:12, Dan Fish  wrote:
>>> > I got UNR 9.10 working OK last night.
>>> >
>>> > http://www.ossmedicine.org/joggler1.jpg
>>> >
>>>
>>> That "screenshot" alone has now made me want one, but I really can't
>>> justify getting one, even though it's only £50. It is my birthday on
>>> Saturday, but I've already ordered myself a new computer and all my
>>> family presents have been bought :(
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>

Thanks!

Looking through the alsa-info output, we see that the Sigmatel
STAC9202 chip is being used, with Vendor Id: 0x83847632. The dmesg
output does not show something significant.

Looking at the source code of the Linux kernel and the sound subsystem
(Alsa), we notice:

2c11f955 (Tobin Davis   2007-05-17 09:36:34 +0200 5095)
 case 0x83847632: /* STAC9202  */
2c11f955 (Tobin Davis   2007-05-17 09:36:34 +0200 5096)
 case 0x83847633: /* STAC9202D */
2c11f955 (Tobin Davis   2007-05-17 09:36:34 +0200 5097)
 case 0x83847636: /* STAC9251  */
2c11f955 (Tobin Davis   2007-05-17 09:36:34 +0200 5098)
 case 0x83847637: /* STAC9251D */
f6e9852a (Takashi Iwai  2007-10-16 14:27:04 +0200 5099)
 spec->num_dmics = STAC925X_NUM_DMICS;
2c11f955 (Tobin Davis   2007-05-17 09:36:34 +0200 5100)
 spec->dmic_nids = stac925x_dmic_nids;
1697055e (Takashi Iwai  2007-12-18 18:05:52 +0100 5101)
 spec->num_dmuxes = ARRAY_SIZE(stac925x_dmux_nids);
1697055e (Takashi Iwai  2007-12-18 18:05:52 +0100 5102)
 spec->dmux_nids = stac925x_dmux_nids;
2c11f955 (Tobin Davis   2007-05-17 09:36:34 +0200 5103)
 break;

8e21c34c (Tobin Davis   2007-01-08 11:04:17 +0100 6225)
 { .id = 0x83847632, .name = "STAC9202",  .patch = patch_stac925x },

which means that the 'quirk' code for this specific chipset was added
in 2007 and did not change since. Thus, there might be something in
this newer chipset that needs an update in Alsa.

You mention that you need to remove the 'last' line in alsa-base.conf.
Is it this line?
   # Power down HDA controllers after 10 idle seconds
   options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N

If so, then the driver is not able to wake up properly from the power
saving state.

So, what if you want to give back to the Linux community :-), you may
1. Get a full alsa-info.sh output in a text file (the one at the wiki
does not have the first lines, which include the alsa driver version,
etc).
2. Send an e-mail to the alsa-devel mailing list at
http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Mailing-lists
saying something like

===
Hi All,
I have an O2 Joggler with the alsa-info output file attached in this message.
The sound does not work unless I remove the following line from
/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf

# Power down HDA controllers after 10 idle seconds
options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N

I believe this means that the chipset is not able to wake up from
power saving, and what I get is crackling sound.

What can be done so that this issue is fixed (the device works with
power saving)?

The device came with a special version of Ubuntu Linux 8.04, and the
source code (included Alsa) is available at
http://lists.gpl-violations.org/pipermail/legal/2009-December/001755.html

Thanks!


Since you are doing a big investment in this device, it's good to push
it further and get it to work out of the box in newer versions of
Linux.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Daniel Case]

I have fixed the problem with the help of some guys in #mer


   - Sound, does not work out of the box but will work once the last line
   has been removed from /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf

However in order to fix the crackling you must plug the USB stick into a
host computer, and change the name of
/etc/lib/KERNALVERSION/kernal/drivers/acpi/processor.ko on the second
partition.

I have added it to the wiki and the Etherpad :)

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Daniel Case wrote:

> I managed to obtain a new USB stick and run the ALSA tester, i uploaded the
> results to my new wiki page:
>
> http://www.jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Alsa
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Thomas Ibbotson  > wrote:
>
>> On 8 April 2010 16:12, Dan Fish  wrote:
>> > I got UNR 9.10 working OK last night.
>> >
>> > http://www.ossmedicine.org/joggler1.jpg
>> >
>>
>> That "screenshot" alone has now made me want one, but I really can't
>> justify getting one, even though it's only £50. It is my birthday on
>> Saturday, but I've already ordered myself a new computer and all my
>> family presents have been bought :(
>>
>> Tom
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Daniel Case]

I managed to obtain a new USB stick and run the ALSA tester, i uploaded the
results to my new wiki page:

http://www.jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Alsa

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Thomas Ibbotson
wrote:

> On 8 April 2010 16:12, Dan Fish  wrote:
> > I got UNR 9.10 working OK last night.
> >
> > http://www.ossmedicine.org/joggler1.jpg
> >
>
> That "screenshot" alone has now made me want one, but I really can't
> justify getting one, even though it's only £50. It is my birthday on
> Saturday, but I've already ordered myself a new computer and all my
> family presents have been bought :(
>
> Tom
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Thomas Ibbotson]

On 8 April 2010 16:12, Dan Fish  wrote:
> I got UNR 9.10 working OK last night.
>
> http://www.ossmedicine.org/joggler1.jpg
>

That "screenshot" alone has now made me want one, but I really can't
justify getting one, even though it's only £50. It is my birthday on
Saturday, but I've already ordered myself a new computer and all my
family presents have been bought :(

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Dan Fish]

I got UNR 9.10 working OK last night.

http://www.ossmedicine.org/joggler1.jpg

I'm going to reboot when I get home to make sure it wasn't a fluke and then I'm 
going to use the EFI mentioned here

http://www.joggler.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=145&start=10

which allows booting without a keyboard. The USB stick problems seem to relate 
to brand and previous usage (ie maximum read-write cycles)

Dan
..My USB drive appears to have commited technology suicide, having problems 
booting, so attempted to re-create the partition table and that failed too -.-

Will be getting another one today somepoint.

Meanwhile, anyone else got UNR working?

~Daniel

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Simos Xenitellis 
mailto:simos.li...@googlemail.com>> wrote:

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Alan Lord (News) 
mailto:alansli...@gmail.com>>
wrote:


On 08/04/10 14:36, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
>
> Ahhh i see, i have uploaded the tutorial to my blog:
>
> http://www.newforumnetwork.com/joggler
>
> Daniel, just to clarify is that working *with* sound?  I'm tempted to
> give this a go next week, but have been enjoying using the upnp playback
> that works out of the box on the joggler and I'm loath to do anything
> with it until the sound issues are resolved!

You are not affecting the Joggler itself at all.

Just booting it from an external stick.

The base OS and bootloader are still on the system. Take your stick out
and you have a Joggler back.

Al




On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Daniel Case 
mailto:danielcas...@googlemail.com>> wrote:

Not quite working with sound yet, doesnt work out of the box...

i have quite an annoying crackling sound if i take the last line out of
/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf

but thats what im working on now :)


Re: sound, could you please get
http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh and run the script?

The script produces detailed info for the audio card.
Then, this info can be used to resolve the audio problems.

Simos

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Daniel Case]

..My USB drive appears to have commited technology suicide, having problems
booting, so attempted to re-create the partition table and that failed too
-.-

Will be getting another one today somepoint.

Meanwhile, anyone else got UNR working?

~Daniel

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Simos Xenitellis  wrote:

> > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Alan Lord (News) 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On 08/04/10 14:36, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Ahhh i see, i have uploaded the tutorial to my blog:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.newforumnetwork.com/joggler
> >> >
> >> > Daniel, just to clarify is that working *with* sound?  I'm tempted to
> >> > give this a go next week, but have been enjoying using the upnp
> playback
> >> > that works out of the box on the joggler and I'm loath to do anything
> >> > with it until the sound issues are resolved!
> >>
> >> You are not affecting the Joggler itself at all.
> >>
> >> Just booting it from an external stick.
> >>
> >> The base OS and bootloader are still on the system. Take your stick out
> >> and you have a Joggler back.
> >>
> >> Al
> >>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Daniel Case 
> wrote:
> > Not quite working with sound yet, doesnt work out of the box...
> >
> > i have quite an annoying crackling sound if i take the last line out of
> > /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
> >
> > but thats what im working on now :)
>
> Re: sound, could you please get
> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh and run the script?
>
> The script produces detailed info for the audio card.
> Then, this info can be used to resolve the audio problems.
>
> Simos
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Simos Xenitellis]

> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Alan Lord (News) 
> wrote:
>>
>> On 08/04/10 14:36, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
>> >
>> >     Ahhh i see, i have uploaded the tutorial to my blog:
>> >
>> >     http://www.newforumnetwork.com/joggler
>> >
>> > Daniel, just to clarify is that working *with* sound?  I'm tempted to
>> > give this a go next week, but have been enjoying using the upnp playback
>> > that works out of the box on the joggler and I'm loath to do anything
>> > with it until the sound issues are resolved!
>>
>> You are not affecting the Joggler itself at all.
>>
>> Just booting it from an external stick.
>>
>> The base OS and bootloader are still on the system. Take your stick out
>> and you have a Joggler back.
>>
>> Al
>>


On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Daniel Case  wrote:
> Not quite working with sound yet, doesnt work out of the box...
>
> i have quite an annoying crackling sound if i take the last line out of
> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
>
> but thats what im working on now :)

Re: sound, could you please get
http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh and run the script?

The script produces detailed info for the audio card.
Then, this info can be used to resolve the audio problems.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

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Not quite working with sound yet, doesnt work out of the box...

i have quite an annoying crackling sound if i take the last line out of
/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf

but thats what im working on now :)

~Daniel

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Alan Lord (News) wrote:

> On 08/04/10 14:36, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
> >
> > Ahhh i see, i have uploaded the tutorial to my blog:
> >
> > http://www.newforumnetwork.com/joggler
> >
> > Daniel, just to clarify is that working *with* sound?  I'm tempted to
> > give this a go next week, but have been enjoying using the upnp playback
> > that works out of the box on the joggler and I'm loath to do anything
> > with it until the sound issues are resolved!
>
> You are not affecting the Joggler itself at all.
>
> Just booting it from an external stick.
>
> The base OS and bootloader are still on the system. Take your stick out
> and you have a Joggler back.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Alan Lord (News)]

On 08/04/10 14:36, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
>
> Ahhh i see, i have uploaded the tutorial to my blog:
>
> http://www.newforumnetwork.com/joggler
>
> Daniel, just to clarify is that working *with* sound?  I'm tempted to
> give this a go next week, but have been enjoying using the upnp playback
> that works out of the box on the joggler and I'm loath to do anything
> with it until the sound issues are resolved!

You are not affecting the Joggler itself at all.

Just booting it from an external stick.

The base OS and bootloader are still on the system. Take your stick out 
and you have a Joggler back.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

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On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Daniel Case wrote:

> Ahhh i see, i have uploaded the tutorial to my blog:
>
> www.newforumnetwork.com/joggler
>
> Daniel, just to clarify is that working *with* sound?  I'm tempted to give
this a go next week, but have been enjoying using the upnp playback that
works out of the box on the joggler and I'm loath to do anything with it
until the sound issues are resolved!

Great device though :)

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[Daniel Case]

Ahhh i see, i have uploaded the tutorial to my blog:

www.newforumnetwork.com/joggler

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Bruno Girin  wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 13:48 +0100, Daniel Case wrote:
> > Alright :)
> >
> > I'l put it here and on the etherpad, i mainly followed this guild:
> > http://magician.gforums.de/wiki/index.php5?title=UNE_Installation
> > but a lot of it is wrong, and one of its packages is packaged badly,
> > so iv repackaged them both and attatched:
> >
> > 1: plug your **USB stick into another linux machine, format it so that
> > you have an ms-dos partition table, 100MB fat16 partition, and an ext3
> > partition, this can be done in a program like gparted.
> >
> > Its important that you do this outside of the installer as otherwise,
> > it will fail.
> >
> > ** I used a 4GB stick, and i have heard that it fails on much larger
> > sticks (16GB) a way to maybe resolve this would be to make the ext3
> > partition below 4GB, but i havent tested as i do not have a larger
> > memory stick on me
>
> That could be due to some higher capacity flash drives using SDHC under
> the covers which the Joggler may not support. I know that my Cruzer 16GB
> flash drive doesn't work with everything (in particular, it doesn't work
> with Windows XP).
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Bruno Girin]

On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 13:48 +0100, Daniel Case wrote:
> Alright :)
> 
> I'l put it here and on the etherpad, i mainly followed this guild:
> http://magician.gforums.de/wiki/index.php5?title=UNE_Installation
> but a lot of it is wrong, and one of its packages is packaged badly,
> so iv repackaged them both and attatched:
> 
> 1: plug your **USB stick into another linux machine, format it so that
> you have an ms-dos partition table, 100MB fat16 partition, and an ext3
> partition, this can be done in a program like gparted. 
> 
> Its important that you do this outside of the installer as otherwise,
> it will fail.
> 
> ** I used a 4GB stick, and i have heard that it fails on much larger
> sticks (16GB) a way to maybe resolve this would be to make the ext3
> partition below 4GB, but i havent tested as i do not have a larger
> memory stick on me

That could be due to some higher capacity flash drives using SDHC under
the covers which the Joggler may not support. I know that my Cruzer 16GB
flash drive doesn't work with everything (in particular, it doesn't work
with Windows XP).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Daniel Case]

Alright :)

I'l put it here and on the etherpad, i mainly followed this guild:
http://magician.gforums.de/wiki/index.php5?title=UNE_Installation
but a lot of it is wrong, and one of its packages is packaged badly, so iv
repackaged them both and attatched:

1: plug your **USB stick into another linux machine, format it so that you
have an ms-dos partition table, 100MB fat16 partition, and an ext3
partition, this can be done in a program like gparted.

*Its important that you do this outside of the installer as otherwise, it
will fail.*

** I used a 4GB stick, and i have heard that it fails on much larger sticks
(16GB) a way to maybe resolve this would be to make the ext3 partition below
4GB, but i havent tested as i do not have a larger memory stick on me

2: write the Ubuntu Netbook Remix (here:
http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download-netbook) to a disk (it failed when
i tried to do it through a VM) and boot from it, once you are at the boot
menu, select "Install Ubuntu Netbook Remix" (2nd option)

3: Once it has loaded the installer, insert the USB stick you partitioned
earlier and choose your settings as normal until you get to the partitioning
page. Make sure you click "Specify Partitions Manually"

4: Click on the ext3 partition on the USB drive, and make sure it is used as
/, but do not format it, then ensure that if you are installing on a
computer with linux already on it that it is not using the original swap
space, in order to stop it you just need to select the swap partition, and
set it to "Do Not Use"

4: Click next, it should give you a warning about not using the FAT16
partition, and a warning about the swap space, you can safely disregard both
of these.

5: Now that the partitioning is done, keep clicking next until you get to
the final screen (where it says install and gives you a rundown) look
through the settings and ensure nothing is being formatted, then click
"Advance" and untick the "Install bootloader" box.

6: Click install, and go get some coffee because its going to take a while
(mine took just under 2 hours, reminds me of the good ol' windows 98
installation days)

7: Download the following two files:
http://www.newforumnetwork.com/files/joggler_partition1_fat16.tar.bz2
http://www.newforumnetwork.com/files/joggler_partition2_ext3.tar.gz

8: Put the USB stick into your linux machine (dont boot from it yet) and
extract each archive into the correct partition, make sure they dont go into
a folder, when you extract the second archive it will ask about overwriting,
just select yes to all.

9: Go into the second partition on the USB stick and find: /etc/fstab
Once you have found it, comment everything out apart from your ext3
partition, and the /proc line.

10: Insert the USB stick into a USB hub with a keyboard and boot up, give it
a minute or two and you should see some terminal
code with an error, this is because the Joggler doesn't save the time, so it
thinks its somewhere in 1980, simple fix, drop down
to the maintinance shell using ctrl+D and run fsck, then reboot using
"shutdown -r now"

And thats it, your 10-step guide to booting UNR :D


On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Les Pounder 
wrote:
> Well done mate, apart from these emails, do you have a process flow / step
> by step guide on what you did?
> Thanks
> Les
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Daniel Case 
> wrote:
>>
>> Just to let everyone know, i have UNR working, and i have backed up
>> the current system, byte for byte, so if anyone needs any testing
>> doing and doesnt want to brick it, im here.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Daniel Case
>>  wrote:
>> > we have a pad with all the links (including that one) on it:
>> >
>> > http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Joggler :)
>> >
>> > Daniel
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Les  wrote:
>> >> Is this any good to anyone?
>> >>
>> >> http://hackthejoggler.freeforums.org/index.php
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 22:04 +0100, Daniel Case wrote:
>> >>> Install Ubuntu Netbook onto a USB and boot from it, then go a clone
of
>> >>> the current hard-drive into a network location, that should do it :)
>> >>>
>> >>> ~Daniel
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Les 
wrote:
>> >>> > I'll be getting one of these little beauties later in the week.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Is it possible to backup the default OS, in case the Ubuntu install
>> >>> > goes
>> >>> > wrong?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 21:10 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote:
>> >>> >> On 7 April 2010 10:06, Bruno Girin  wrote:
>> >>> >> > On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 08:15 +0100, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
>> >>> >> >> I got the same - so Online appears to be the way forward, if
>> >>> >> >> they're
>> >>> >> >> fulfilling orders on a next-day delivery basis :)
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > I must have been unlucky then. I ordered it online yesterday and
>> >>> >> > then
>> >>> >> > got an email that said:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >> Your order is still being processed and, if accepted, should be
>> >>> >> >> despatched to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Les Pounder]

Well done mate, apart from these emails, do you have a process flow / step
by step guide on what you did?

Thanks
Les

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Daniel Case wrote:

> Just to let everyone know, i have UNR working, and i have backed up
> the current system, byte for byte, so if anyone needs any testing
> doing and doesnt want to brick it, im here.
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Daniel Case
>  wrote:
> > we have a pad with all the links (including that one) on it:
> >
> > http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Joggler :)
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Les  wrote:
> >> Is this any good to anyone?
> >>
> >> http://hackthejoggler.freeforums.org/index.php
> >>
> >> On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 22:04 +0100, Daniel Case wrote:
> >>> Install Ubuntu Netbook onto a USB and boot from it, then go a clone of
> >>> the current hard-drive into a network location, that should do it :)
> >>>
> >>> ~Daniel
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Les  wrote:
> >>> > I'll be getting one of these little beauties later in the week.
> >>> >
> >>> > Is it possible to backup the default OS, in case the Ubuntu install
> goes
> >>> > wrong?
> >>> >
> >>> > On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 21:10 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote:
> >>> >> On 7 April 2010 10:06, Bruno Girin  wrote:
> >>> >> > On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 08:15 +0100, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
> >>> >> >> I got the same - so Online appears to be the way forward, if
> they're
> >>> >> >> fulfilling orders on a next-day delivery basis :)
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > I must have been unlucky then. I ordered it online yesterday and
> then
> >>> >> > got an email that said:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> Your order is still being processed and, if accepted, should be
> >>> >> >> despatched to you within the next 5 days.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Maybe it's because I declined to register with Verified by Visa
> during
> >>> >> > the checkout process.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Bruno
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I got a similar email (I ordered online just after I saw Popey's
> >>> >> email), and it arrived today. Just setting up the default install
> now,
> >>> >> then I think I might flash it with UNE...
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Cofion/Regards,
> >>> >> Neil.
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
> >>> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> >>> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> ~Daniel
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ~Daniel
> >
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Alan Pope]

On 8 April 2010 12:51, Daniel Case  wrote:
> Just to let everyone know, i have UNR working, and i have backed up
> the current system, byte for byte, so if anyone needs any testing
> doing and doesnt want to brick it, im here.
>

Any chance you can document what you did on the etherpad? Or links to
guides you followed?

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Daniel Case]

Just to let everyone know, i have UNR working, and i have backed up
the current system, byte for byte, so if anyone needs any testing
doing and doesnt want to brick it, im here.

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Daniel Case
 wrote:
> we have a pad with all the links (including that one) on it:
>
> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Joggler :)
>
> Daniel
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Les  wrote:
>> Is this any good to anyone?
>>
>> http://hackthejoggler.freeforums.org/index.php
>>
>> On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 22:04 +0100, Daniel Case wrote:
>>> Install Ubuntu Netbook onto a USB and boot from it, then go a clone of
>>> the current hard-drive into a network location, that should do it :)
>>>
>>> ~Daniel
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Les  wrote:
>>> > I'll be getting one of these little beauties later in the week.
>>> >
>>> > Is it possible to backup the default OS, in case the Ubuntu install goes
>>> > wrong?
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 21:10 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote:
>>> >> On 7 April 2010 10:06, Bruno Girin  wrote:
>>> >> > On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 08:15 +0100, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
>>> >> >> I got the same - so Online appears to be the way forward, if they're
>>> >> >> fulfilling orders on a next-day delivery basis :)
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I must have been unlucky then. I ordered it online yesterday and then
>>> >> > got an email that said:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Your order is still being processed and, if accepted, should be
>>> >> >> despatched to you within the next 5 days.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Maybe it's because I declined to register with Verified by Visa during
>>> >> > the checkout process.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Bruno
>>> >>
>>> >> I got a similar email (I ordered online just after I saw Popey's
>>> >> email), and it arrived today. Just setting up the default install now,
>>> >> then I think I might flash it with UNE...
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Cofion/Regards,
>>> >> Neil.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
>>> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>>> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ~Daniel
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>
>
>
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>



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Daniel Case]

we have a pad with all the links (including that one) on it:

http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Joggler :)

Daniel


On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Les  wrote:
> Is this any good to anyone?
>
> http://hackthejoggler.freeforums.org/index.php
>
> On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 22:04 +0100, Daniel Case wrote:
>> Install Ubuntu Netbook onto a USB and boot from it, then go a clone of
>> the current hard-drive into a network location, that should do it :)
>>
>> ~Daniel
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Les  wrote:
>> > I'll be getting one of these little beauties later in the week.
>> >
>> > Is it possible to backup the default OS, in case the Ubuntu install goes
>> > wrong?
>> >
>> > On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 21:10 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote:
>> >> On 7 April 2010 10:06, Bruno Girin  wrote:
>> >> > On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 08:15 +0100, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
>> >> >> I got the same - so Online appears to be the way forward, if they're
>> >> >> fulfilling orders on a next-day delivery basis :)
>> >> >
>> >> > I must have been unlucky then. I ordered it online yesterday and then
>> >> > got an email that said:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Your order is still being processed and, if accepted, should be
>> >> >> despatched to you within the next 5 days.
>> >> >
>> >> > Maybe it's because I declined to register with Verified by Visa during
>> >> > the checkout process.
>> >> >
>> >> > Bruno
>> >>
>> >> I got a similar email (I ordered online just after I saw Popey's
>> >> email), and it arrived today. Just setting up the default install now,
>> >> then I think I might flash it with UNE...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Cofion/Regards,
>> >> Neil.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
>> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ~Daniel
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Les]

Is this any good to anyone?

http://hackthejoggler.freeforums.org/index.php

On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 22:04 +0100, Daniel Case wrote:
> Install Ubuntu Netbook onto a USB and boot from it, then go a clone of
> the current hard-drive into a network location, that should do it :)
> 
> ~Daniel
> 
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Les  wrote:
> > I'll be getting one of these little beauties later in the week.
> >
> > Is it possible to backup the default OS, in case the Ubuntu install goes
> > wrong?
> >
> > On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 21:10 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote:
> >> On 7 April 2010 10:06, Bruno Girin  wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 08:15 +0100, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
> >> >> I got the same - so Online appears to be the way forward, if they're
> >> >> fulfilling orders on a next-day delivery basis :)
> >> >
> >> > I must have been unlucky then. I ordered it online yesterday and then
> >> > got an email that said:
> >> >
> >> >> Your order is still being processed and, if accepted, should be
> >> >> despatched to you within the next 5 days.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe it's because I declined to register with Verified by Visa during
> >> > the checkout process.
> >> >
> >> > Bruno
> >>
> >> I got a similar email (I ordered online just after I saw Popey's
> >> email), and it arrived today. Just setting up the default install now,
> >> then I think I might flash it with UNE...
> >>
> >>
> >> Cofion/Regards,
> >> Neil.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
> >
> 
> 
> 
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> 



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Les]

Good thinking there mate, cheers.
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 22:04 +0100, Daniel Case wrote:
> Install Ubuntu Netbook onto a USB and boot from it, then go a clone of
> the current hard-drive into a network location, that should do it :)
> 
> ~Daniel
> 
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Les  wrote:
> > I'll be getting one of these little beauties later in the week.
> >
> > Is it possible to backup the default OS, in case the Ubuntu install goes
> > wrong?
> >
> > On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 21:10 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote:
> >> On 7 April 2010 10:06, Bruno Girin  wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 08:15 +0100, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
> >> >> I got the same - so Online appears to be the way forward, if they're
> >> >> fulfilling orders on a next-day delivery basis :)
> >> >
> >> > I must have been unlucky then. I ordered it online yesterday and then
> >> > got an email that said:
> >> >
> >> >> Your order is still being processed and, if accepted, should be
> >> >> despatched to you within the next 5 days.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe it's because I declined to register with Verified by Visa during
> >> > the checkout process.
> >> >
> >> > Bruno
> >>
> >> I got a similar email (I ordered online just after I saw Popey's
> >> email), and it arrived today. Just setting up the default install now,
> >> then I think I might flash it with UNE...
> >>
> >>
> >> Cofion/Regards,
> >> Neil.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Daniel Case]

Install Ubuntu Netbook onto a USB and boot from it, then go a clone of
the current hard-drive into a network location, that should do it :)

~Daniel

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Les  wrote:
> I'll be getting one of these little beauties later in the week.
>
> Is it possible to backup the default OS, in case the Ubuntu install goes
> wrong?
>
> On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 21:10 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote:
>> On 7 April 2010 10:06, Bruno Girin  wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 08:15 +0100, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
>> >> I got the same - so Online appears to be the way forward, if they're
>> >> fulfilling orders on a next-day delivery basis :)
>> >
>> > I must have been unlucky then. I ordered it online yesterday and then
>> > got an email that said:
>> >
>> >> Your order is still being processed and, if accepted, should be
>> >> despatched to you within the next 5 days.
>> >
>> > Maybe it's because I declined to register with Verified by Visa during
>> > the checkout process.
>> >
>> > Bruno
>>
>> I got a similar email (I ordered online just after I saw Popey's
>> email), and it arrived today. Just setting up the default install now,
>> then I think I might flash it with UNE...
>>
>>
>> Cofion/Regards,
>> Neil.
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Les]

I'll be getting one of these little beauties later in the week.

Is it possible to backup the default OS, in case the Ubuntu install goes
wrong?

On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 21:10 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote:
> On 7 April 2010 10:06, Bruno Girin  wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 08:15 +0100, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
> >> I got the same - so Online appears to be the way forward, if they're
> >> fulfilling orders on a next-day delivery basis :)
> >
> > I must have been unlucky then. I ordered it online yesterday and then
> > got an email that said:
> >
> >> Your order is still being processed and, if accepted, should be
> >> despatched to you within the next 5 days.
> >
> > Maybe it's because I declined to register with Verified by Visa during
> > the checkout process.
> >
> > Bruno
> 
> I got a similar email (I ordered online just after I saw Popey's
> email), and it arrived today. Just setting up the default install now,
> then I think I might flash it with UNE...
> 
> 
> Cofion/Regards,
> Neil.
> 



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Neil Greenwood]

On 7 April 2010 10:06, Bruno Girin  wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 08:15 +0100, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
>> I got the same - so Online appears to be the way forward, if they're
>> fulfilling orders on a next-day delivery basis :)
>
> I must have been unlucky then. I ordered it online yesterday and then
> got an email that said:
>
>> Your order is still being processed and, if accepted, should be
>> despatched to you within the next 5 days.
>
> Maybe it's because I declined to register with Verified by Visa during
> the checkout process.
>
> Bruno

I got a similar email (I ordered online just after I saw Popey's
email), and it arrived today. Just setting up the default install now,
then I think I might flash it with UNE...


Cofion/Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Daniel Case]

Have you changed the permissions of the directory to 755?

~Daniel

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Alan Pope  wrote:
> On 7 April 2010 19:33, Daniel Case  wrote:
>> I have also got telnet to work, had a look around the files, it seems
>> like it supports SSH too, not sure how to start it though.
>>
>
> I've made some notes on the etherpad..
>
> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Joggler
>
> I have sshd running but can't ssh in just now. Maybe a config thing or
> perhaps missing some other component.
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Alan Pope]

On 7 April 2010 19:33, Daniel Case  wrote:
> I have also got telnet to work, had a look around the files, it seems
> like it supports SSH too, not sure how to start it though.
>

I've made some notes on the etherpad..

http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Joggler

I have sshd running but can't ssh in just now. Maybe a config thing or
perhaps missing some other component.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Daniel Case]

I have also got telnet to work, had a look around the files, it seems
like it supports SSH too, not sure how to start it though.

~Daniel

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Mark Fraser
 wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 Apr 2010 15:11:27 Jamie Bennett wrote:
>> On 7 Apr 2010, at 14:49, Mark Fraser wrote:
>> > On Tuesday 06 Apr 2010 00:03:20 Alan Pope wrote:
>> >> No, not that Apple thing, but the O2 Joggler.
>> >>
>> >> 50 quid (for 14 days from 2nd April) and free delivery gets you a 7
>> >> inch touch screen device with:-
>> >>
>> >> 1.3GHz Intel Atom CPU
>> >> 1GB storage
>> >> 512MB RAM
>> >> Wired ethernet
>> >> Broadcom b/g/n WiFi
>> >> Audio + headphone jack
>> >> USB port
>> >
>> > Just done the telnet hack and for your information uname -a returns:
>> > Linux atom 2.6.24-19-lpia #1 SMP Fri Mar 19 18:15:43 EDT 2010 i686
>> > unknown
>>
>> Couldn't get the telnet hack to work, maybe its something to do with my usb
>> adapter and 16GB SDHC card?
>
> I just used an old 256MB stick I had laying around and it worked first time.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Mark Fraser]

On Wednesday 07 Apr 2010 15:11:27 Jamie Bennett wrote:
> On 7 Apr 2010, at 14:49, Mark Fraser wrote:
> > On Tuesday 06 Apr 2010 00:03:20 Alan Pope wrote:
> >> No, not that Apple thing, but the O2 Joggler.
> >> 
> >> 50 quid (for 14 days from 2nd April) and free delivery gets you a 7
> >> inch touch screen device with:-
> >> 
> >> 1.3GHz Intel Atom CPU
> >> 1GB storage
> >> 512MB RAM
> >> Wired ethernet
> >> Broadcom b/g/n WiFi
> >> Audio + headphone jack
> >> USB port
> > 
> > Just done the telnet hack and for your information uname -a returns:
> > Linux atom 2.6.24-19-lpia #1 SMP Fri Mar 19 18:15:43 EDT 2010 i686
> > unknown
> 
> Couldn't get the telnet hack to work, maybe its something to do with my usb
> adapter and 16GB SDHC card?

I just used an old 256MB stick I had laying around and it worked first time.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Jamie Bennett]

On 7 Apr 2010, at 14:49, Mark Fraser wrote:

> On Tuesday 06 Apr 2010 00:03:20 Alan Pope wrote:
>> No, not that Apple thing, but the O2 Joggler.
>> 
>> 50 quid (for 14 days from 2nd April) and free delivery gets you a 7
>> inch touch screen device with:-
>> 
>> 1.3GHz Intel Atom CPU
>> 1GB storage
>> 512MB RAM
>> Wired ethernet
>> Broadcom b/g/n WiFi
>> Audio + headphone jack
>> USB port
> 
> Just done the telnet hack and for your information uname -a returns:
> Linux atom 2.6.24-19-lpia #1 SMP Fri Mar 19 18:15:43 EDT 2010 i686 unknown

Couldn't get the telnet hack to work, maybe its something to do with my usb 
adapter and 16GB SDHC card?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Mark Fraser]

On Tuesday 06 Apr 2010 00:03:20 Alan Pope wrote:
> No, not that Apple thing, but the O2 Joggler.
> 
> 50 quid (for 14 days from 2nd April) and free delivery gets you a 7
> inch touch screen device with:-
> 
> 1.3GHz Intel Atom CPU
> 1GB storage
> 512MB RAM
> Wired ethernet
> Broadcom b/g/n WiFi
> Audio + headphone jack
> USB port

Just done the telnet hack and for your information uname -a returns:
Linux atom 2.6.24-19-lpia #1 SMP Fri Mar 19 18:15:43 EDT 2010 i686 unknown

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Bruno Girin]

On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 08:15 +0100, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Alan Lord (News)
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I ordered one yesterday on-line and I had a dispatch email
> yesterday
> evening saying it will be with me today. Not bad at all at
> just £49.99
> inc VAT and Shipping.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Al
> 
> I got the same - so Online appears to be the way forward, if they're
> fulfilling orders on a next-day delivery basis :)

I must have been unlucky then. I ordered it online yesterday and then
got an email that said:

> Your order is still being processed and, if accepted, should be 
> despatched to you within the next 5 days.

Maybe it's because I declined to register with Verified by Visa during
the checkout process.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Paul Morgan-Roach]

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Alan Lord (News) wrote:

>
> I ordered one yesterday on-line and I had a dispatch email yesterday
> evening saying it will be with me today. Not bad at all at just £49.99
> inc VAT and Shipping.
>
> Cheers
>
> Al
>
> I got the same - so Online appears to be the way forward, if they're
fulfilling orders on a next-day delivery basis :)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Alan Lord (News)]

On 07/04/10 07:24, TT Mooney wrote:
> Hey all --
>
> Long time listener, first time caller.
>
> With my obcession for small Linux devices (man the N800 was COOL, but
> not terribly useful) I couldn't resist the Joggler. Went down to Oxford
> Street -- apparently they sold out in store on 2 April, and may have
> more in on Thursday. Online seems the best option for stock availability.
>
> I assume they have a backlog, or are about to release an updated
> version, but who can complain at £49? I think it will make a fine
> kitchen computer, and a friend is going to try it as a GCompris tablet
> for his daughter.

I ordered one yesterday on-line and I had a dispatch email yesterday 
evening saying it will be with me today. Not bad at all at just £49.99 
inc VAT and Shipping.

Cheers

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[TT Mooney]

Hey all --

Long time listener, first time caller.

With my obcession for small Linux devices (man the N800 was COOL, but
not terribly useful) I couldn't resist the Joggler. Went down to Oxford
Street -- apparently they sold out in store on 2 April, and may have
more in on Thursday. Online seems the best option for stock availability.

I assume they have a backlog, or are about to release an updated
version, but who can complain at £49? I think it will make a fine
kitchen computer, and a friend is going to try it as a GCompris tablet
for his daughter.

travis
> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:22:14 +0100
> From: Alan Pope 
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..
> To: UK Ubuntu Talk 
> Message-ID:
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On 6 April 2010 14:16, Daniel Case  wrote:
>   
>> Just got mine now, last one too, after checking 5 shops in 4 differant towns 
>> -.-
>>
>> 
>
> Fantastic news :)
>
> I ordered mine last night just _before_ sending the mail ;)
>
>   
>> I'l be having a good look when i get home tonight, quite excited lol
>> :) happy hacking everyone! ^.^
>>
>> 
>
> Be good to keep notes somewhere, how about here:-
>
> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Joggler
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Rob Beard]

Bruno Girin wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 15:27 +0100, James Thomas wrote:
>   
>> Phoned around 3 x o2 stores, got the last joggler at store number 3...
>> If anyone wants to buy a joggler and can't #blamepopey
>>
>>
>> :)
>> 
>
> The Camden Town shop was so busy I gave up, went home and ordered it
> online. Now I just have to work out what to do with it. I'll probably
> try to use it out of the box to start with but installing a cut-down
> version of Lucid with the Moblin desktop on top sounds tempting.
> Alternatively, I wonder if it'd be a good device to run Moovida[1] on.
>
> [1] http://www.moovida.com/
>
> Bruno
>
>   
I popped in the O2 store in Torquay today and had a quick 30 second play 
with it.  I really am impressed with the touch screen.  I haven't picked 
one up yet but I am tempted.  I've just got to figure out how to run the 
thing in a car (assuming it's possible).  It's a shame it hasn't got 
some sort of video output too as I know someone who is looking for a 
basic web surfing PC and I bet this would have been ideal.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Bruno Girin]

On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 15:27 +0100, James Thomas wrote:
> Phoned around 3 x o2 stores, got the last joggler at store number 3...
> If anyone wants to buy a joggler and can't #blamepopey
> 
> 
> :)

The Camden Town shop was so busy I gave up, went home and ordered it
online. Now I just have to work out what to do with it. I'll probably
try to use it out of the box to start with but installing a cut-down
version of Lucid with the Moblin desktop on top sounds tempting.
Alternatively, I wonder if it'd be a good device to run Moovida[1] on.

[1] http://www.moovida.com/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Paul Morgan-Roach]

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Bob Giles  wrote:

>
> Methinks it is time to fire up LogMeIn and speak to them via Cambridge!
>
> Logmein?? just ssh -D  to a box in this country and set your browser to
use localhost: as a socks proxy :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Bob Giles]

On 04/06/2010 02:03 AM, Alan Pope wrote:
> It seems to come with a cut-down version of Ubuntu Hardy and can be
> flashed to run 'proper' Ubuntu or Netbook Edition if you wish.
>
> I thought it might be useful as a mythtv frontend for my desk or
> bedside, or maybe even an IP telephone when paired with a suitable USB
> headset.
>
> Some links I've gathered:-
>
> http://shop.o2.co.uk/joggler
> http://robhu.livejournal.com/750902.html
> http://magician.gforums.de/wiki/index.php5?title=UNE_Installation
> http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=21187242
> http://www.trustedreviews.com/peripherals/review/2009/07/01/O2-Joggler/p1
> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/peripherals/253801/o2-joggler
> http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/646001/o2-joggler-49-99-now-with-free-app-
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
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Bugger!

Here I am half way up a mountain in Greece thinking, "Hmm! This sounds 
like a good hacking project!" Then I hit the link to O2's site only to 
receive the message, "Thanks for visiting the O2 Online Shop. 
Unfortunately, we are unable to sell to countries outside the UK."

Methinks it is time to fire up LogMeIn and speak to them via Cambridge!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Mark Fraser]

On Tuesday 06 Apr 2010 00:03:20 Alan Pope wrote:
> No, not that Apple thing, but the O2 Joggler.
> 
> 50 quid (for 14 days from 2nd April) and free delivery gets you a 7
> inch touch screen device with:-
> 
> 1.3GHz Intel Atom CPU
> 1GB storage
> 512MB RAM
> Wired ethernet
> Broadcom b/g/n WiFi
> Audio + headphone jack
> USB port
> 
> http://shop.o2.co.uk/joggler
> 
> It seems to come with a cut-down version of Ubuntu Hardy and can be
> flashed to run 'proper' Ubuntu or Netbook Edition if you wish.
> 
> I thought it might be useful as a mythtv frontend for my desk or
> bedside, or maybe even an IP telephone when paired with a suitable USB
> headset.

Ordered one at the weekend after the deal was posted on HotUKDeals. Haven't 
decided if I'm going to use it as supplied or try hacking it in some way.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[James Thomas]

Phoned around 3 x o2 stores, got the last joggler at store number 3...
If anyone wants to buy a joggler and can't #blamepopey

:)



On 6 April 2010 14:26, Daniel Case  wrote:

> Ahhh good plan,
>
> I didnt want to wait another day for mine, but what was going to the
> local O2 store, sent me all the way across yorkshire XD
>
> It looks like it was worth it though, And sure that works for me,
> saved in my favourites :)
>
> Daniel
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Alan Pope  wrote:
> > On 6 April 2010 14:16, Daniel Case  wrote:
> >> Just got mine now, last one too, after checking 5 shops in 4 differant
> towns -.-
> >>
> >
> > Fantastic news :)
> >
> > I ordered mine last night just _before_ sending the mail ;)
> >
> >> I'l be having a good look when i get home tonight, quite excited lol
> >> :) happy hacking everyone! ^.^
> >>
> >
> > Be good to keep notes somewhere, how about here:-
> >
> > http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Joggler
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Al.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Daniel Case]

Ahhh good plan,

I didnt want to wait another day for mine, but what was going to the
local O2 store, sent me all the way across yorkshire XD

It looks like it was worth it though, And sure that works for me,
saved in my favourites :)

Daniel

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Alan Pope  wrote:
> On 6 April 2010 14:16, Daniel Case  wrote:
>> Just got mine now, last one too, after checking 5 shops in 4 differant towns 
>> -.-
>>
>
> Fantastic news :)
>
> I ordered mine last night just _before_ sending the mail ;)
>
>> I'l be having a good look when i get home tonight, quite excited lol
>> :) happy hacking everyone! ^.^
>>
>
> Be good to keep notes somewhere, how about here:-
>
> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Joggler
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Alan Pope]

On 6 April 2010 14:16, Daniel Case  wrote:
> Just got mine now, last one too, after checking 5 shops in 4 differant towns 
> -.-
>

Fantastic news :)

I ordered mine last night just _before_ sending the mail ;)

> I'l be having a good look when i get home tonight, quite excited lol
> :) happy hacking everyone! ^.^
>

Be good to keep notes somewhere, how about here:-

http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Joggler

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Daniel Case]

Just got mine now, last one too, after checking 5 shops in 4 differant towns -.-

I'l be having a good look when i get home tonight, quite excited lol
:) happy hacking everyone! ^.^

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Simon Swaysland
 wrote:
> o2 shop @Cannon St, London has got them in stock.
>
> Simon
>
> On 6 April 2010 14:01, James Thomas  wrote:
>>
>> Bet Popey wishes he was on commission...
>> :)
>>
>> On 6 April 2010 13:59, Paul Morgan-Roach  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Daniel Case 
>>> wrote:

 Trying to get one today, went to the nearest O2 store but they were
 out of stock...so im going to have to try Doncaster.

>>> Just ordered mine online and expecting it in < 5days... something to play
>>> with when I'm on Holiday next week.  Wondering if Popey's on commission
>>> after starting this thread ;)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Simon Swaysland]

o2 shop @Cannon St, London has got them in stock.

Simon

On 6 April 2010 14:01, James Thomas  wrote:

> Bet Popey wishes he was on commission...
> :)
>
> On 6 April 2010 13:59, Paul Morgan-Roach  wrote:
>
>>  On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Daniel Case > > wrote:
>>
>>> Trying to get one today, went to the nearest O2 store but they were
>>> out of stock...so im going to have to try Doncaster.
>>>
>>> Just ordered mine online and expecting it in < 5days... something to play
>> with when I'm on Holiday next week.  Wondering if Popey's on commission
>> after starting this thread ;)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[James Thomas]

Bet Popey wishes he was on commission...
:)

On 6 April 2010 13:59, Paul Morgan-Roach  wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Daniel Case 
> wrote:
>
>> Trying to get one today, went to the nearest O2 store but they were
>> out of stock...so im going to have to try Doncaster.
>>
>> Just ordered mine online and expecting it in < 5days... something to play
> with when I'm on Holiday next week.  Wondering if Popey's on commission
> after starting this thread ;)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Paul Morgan-Roach]

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Daniel Case wrote:

> Trying to get one today, went to the nearest O2 store but they were
> out of stock...so im going to have to try Doncaster.
>
> Just ordered mine online and expecting it in < 5days... something to play
with when I'm on Holiday next week.  Wondering if Popey's on commission
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Chris Rowson]

> No, not that Apple thing, but the O2 Joggler.
>
> 50 quid (for 14 days from 2nd April) and free delivery gets you a 7
> inch touch screen device with:-
>
> 1.3GHz Intel Atom CPU
> 1GB storage
> 512MB RAM
> Wired ethernet
> Broadcom b/g/n WiFi
> Audio + headphone jack
> USB port
>
> http://shop.o2.co.uk/joggler
>
> It seems to come with a cut-down version of Ubuntu Hardy and can be
> flashed to run 'proper' Ubuntu or Netbook Edition if you wish.
>
> I thought it might be useful as a mythtv frontend for my desk or
> bedside, or maybe even an IP telephone when paired with a suitable USB
> headset.
>
> Some links I've gathered:-
>
> http://shop.o2.co.uk/joggler
> http://robhu.livejournal.com/750902.html
> http://magician.gforums.de/wiki/index.php5?title=UNE_Installation
> http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=21187242
> http://www.trustedreviews.com/peripherals/review/2009/07/01/O2-Joggler/p1
> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/peripherals/253801/o2-joggler
> http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/646001/o2-joggler-49-99-now-with-free-app-
>
> Cheers,
> Al.


Thanks for the tip Al, just ordered one.

Cheers

Chris

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Daniel Case]

Trying to get one today, went to the nearest O2 store but they were
out of stock...so im going to have to try Doncaster.

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Tony Scott  wrote:
> Just ordered one myself from the O2 site - looking forward to running Netbook 
> Edition on it
>
>
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>
>
> - Original Message 
>> From: Rob Beard 
>> To: UK Ubuntu Talk 
>> Sent: Tue, 6 April, 2010 9:38:23
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..
>>
>> Alan Pope wrote:
>> No, not that Apple thing, but the O2
>> Joggler.
>>
>> 50 quid (for 14 days from 2nd April) and free delivery
>> gets you a 7
>> inch touch screen device with:-
>>
>> 1.3GHz
>> Intel Atom CPU
>> 1GB storage
>> 512MB RAM
>> Wired
>> ethernet
>> Broadcom b/g/n WiFi
>> Audio + headphone jack
>> USB
>> port
>>
>>
>> >http://shop.o2.co.uk/joggler
>>
>> It seems to come with a
>> cut-down version of Ubuntu Hardy and can be
>> flashed to run 'proper'
>> Ubuntu or Netbook Edition if you wish.
>>
>> I thought it might be
>> useful as a mythtv frontend for my desk or
>> bedside, or maybe even an IP
>> telephone when paired with a suitable USB
>> headset.
>>
>> Some
>> links I've gathered:-
>>
>>
>> target=_blank >http://shop.o2.co.uk/joggler
>>
>> href="http://robhu.livejournal.com/750902.html"; target=_blank
>> >http://robhu.livejournal.com/750902.html
>>
>> href="http://magician.gforums.de/wiki/index.php5?title=UNE_Installation";
>> target=_blank
>> >http://magician.gforums.de/wiki/index.php5?title=UNE_Installation
>>
>>
>> >http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=21187242
>>
>> href="http://www.trustedreviews.com/peripherals/review/2009/07/01/O2-Joggler/p1";
>> target=_blank
>> >http://www.trustedreviews.com/peripherals/review/2009/07/01/O2-Joggler/p1
>>
>>
>> target=_blank
>> >http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/peripherals/253801/o2-joggler
>>
>> href="http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/646001/o2-joggler-49-99-now-with-free-app-";
>> target=_blank
>> >http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/646001/o2-joggler-49-99-now-with-free-app-
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Al.
>>
>>
> Hmm... I'm very interested.
>> Has anyone on the list actually got one of
> these yet?
>
> I'm wondering
>> what sort of power requirements it has (I gather it
> doesn't run off a
>> battery which is a shame) but I'm interested to know
> if it has a fairly
>> standard power supply (such as 12 volt PSU or laptop
> PSU)?
>
> What I'm
>> thinking is maybe something like this would make a great in-car
> media player
>> (either for playing MP3s or XVid movies to keep the kids
> quiet on long
>> journeys) at least if it can be powered off a cigarette
> lighter socket (or
>> alternatively an inverter).
>
> Sounds like a good excuse to pop down to the
>> O2 store later on.
>
> Rob
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Tony Scott]

Just ordered one myself from the O2 site - looking forward to running Netbook 
Edition on it


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- Original Message 
> From: Rob Beard 
> To: UK Ubuntu Talk 
> Sent: Tue, 6 April, 2010 9:38:23
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..
> 
> Alan Pope wrote:
> No, not that Apple thing, but the O2 
> Joggler.
>
> 50 quid (for 14 days from 2nd April) and free delivery 
> gets you a 7
> inch touch screen device with:-
>
> 1.3GHz 
> Intel Atom CPU
> 1GB storage
> 512MB RAM
> Wired 
> ethernet
> Broadcom b/g/n WiFi
> Audio + headphone jack
> USB 
> port
>
> 
> >http://shop.o2.co.uk/joggler
>
> It seems to come with a 
> cut-down version of Ubuntu Hardy and can be
> flashed to run 'proper' 
> Ubuntu or Netbook Edition if you wish.
>
> I thought it might be 
> useful as a mythtv frontend for my desk or
> bedside, or maybe even an IP 
> telephone when paired with a suitable USB
> headset.
>
> Some 
> links I've gathered:-
>
> 
> target=_blank >http://shop.o2.co.uk/joggler
> 
> href="http://robhu.livejournal.com/750902.html"; target=_blank 
> >http://robhu.livejournal.com/750902.html
> 
> href="http://magician.gforums.de/wiki/index.php5?title=UNE_Installation"; 
> target=_blank 
> >http://magician.gforums.de/wiki/index.php5?title=UNE_Installation
> 
> 
> >http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=21187242
> 
> href="http://www.trustedreviews.com/peripherals/review/2009/07/01/O2-Joggler/p1";
>  
> target=_blank 
> >http://www.trustedreviews.com/peripherals/review/2009/07/01/O2-Joggler/p1
> 
> 
> target=_blank 
> >http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/peripherals/253801/o2-joggler
> 
> href="http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/646001/o2-joggler-49-99-now-with-free-app-";
>  
> target=_blank 
> >http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/646001/o2-joggler-49-99-now-with-free-app-
>
> 
> Cheers,
> Al.
>
>  
Hmm... I'm very interested.  
> Has anyone on the list actually got one of 
these yet?

I'm wondering 
> what sort of power requirements it has (I gather it 
doesn't run off a 
> battery which is a shame) but I'm interested to know 
if it has a fairly 
> standard power supply (such as 12 volt PSU or laptop 
PSU)?

What I'm 
> thinking is maybe something like this would make a great in-car 
media player 
> (either for playing MP3s or XVid movies to keep the kids 
quiet on long 
> journeys) at least if it can be powered off a cigarette 
lighter socket (or 
> alternatively an inverter).

Sounds like a good excuse to pop down to the 
> O2 store later on.

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Rob Beard]

Alan Pope wrote:
> No, not that Apple thing, but the O2 Joggler.
>
> 50 quid (for 14 days from 2nd April) and free delivery gets you a 7
> inch touch screen device with:-
>
> 1.3GHz Intel Atom CPU
> 1GB storage
> 512MB RAM
> Wired ethernet
> Broadcom b/g/n WiFi
> Audio + headphone jack
> USB port
>
> http://shop.o2.co.uk/joggler
>
> It seems to come with a cut-down version of Ubuntu Hardy and can be
> flashed to run 'proper' Ubuntu or Netbook Edition if you wish.
>
> I thought it might be useful as a mythtv frontend for my desk or
> bedside, or maybe even an IP telephone when paired with a suitable USB
> headset.
>
> Some links I've gathered:-
>
> http://shop.o2.co.uk/joggler
> http://robhu.livejournal.com/750902.html
> http://magician.gforums.de/wiki/index.php5?title=UNE_Installation
> http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=21187242
> http://www.trustedreviews.com/peripherals/review/2009/07/01/O2-Joggler/p1
> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/peripherals/253801/o2-joggler
> http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/646001/o2-joggler-49-99-now-with-free-app-
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
>
>   
Hmm... I'm very interested.  Has anyone on the list actually got one of 
these yet?

I'm wondering what sort of power requirements it has (I gather it 
doesn't run off a battery which is a shame) but I'm interested to know 
if it has a fairly standard power supply (such as 12 volt PSU or laptop 
PSU)?

What I'm thinking is maybe something like this would make a great in-car 
media player (either for playing MP3s or XVid movies to keep the kids 
quiet on long journeys) at least if it can be powered off a cigarette 
lighter socket (or alternatively an inverter).

Sounds like a good excuse to pop down to the O2 store later on.

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[James Milligan]

On 06/04/2010 00:52, Daniel Case wrote:
> Yeah, I'm not too sure what happened to the official "HackTheJoggler"
> site: http://www.hackthejoggler.com/ all i get is a 404 message.
>
> The closest i have found is this: http://hackthejoggler.freeforums.org
> and it looks like its been dorment since the middle of 2009, so im not
> quite sure if anyone successfully booted the netbook remix from it?
>
> ~Daniel
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Kris Douglas  wrote:
>
>> On 6 April 2010 00:41, Daniel Case  wrote:
>>  
>>> I think I may get one tomorrow, very cheap and interesting piece of
>>> hardware in my opinion if i can install Ubuntu Netbook Remix on it.
>>>
>>> I heard about it when it came out, but remember not liking the price,
>>> thank you for telling us about the offer Alan, wouldnt have known
>>> otherwise.
>>>
>> Aye, thanks Alan. We should start a hacking thread, getting Ubuntu
>> running on it, I've just ordered one too.
>>
>>
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 From http://hackthejoggler.freeforums.org/

> Unfortunately our top-level .co.uk domain had to be removed for legal 
> reasons.

Perhaps why the .com has also been 'removed'.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Daniel Case]

Ahhh nice, thanks, il be looking at it over the next few days
then...wooo new hacking project :D

~Daniel

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:55 AM, Kris Douglas  wrote:
> On 6 April 2010 00:52, Daniel Case  wrote:
>> Yeah, I'm not too sure what happened to the official "HackTheJoggler"
>> site: http://www.hackthejoggler.com/ all i get is a 404 message.
>>
>> The closest i have found is this: http://hackthejoggler.freeforums.org
>> and it looks like its been dorment since the middle of 2009, so im not
>> quite sure if anyone successfully booted the netbook remix from it?
>>
>> ~Daniel
>
> Youtube reports it's possible... And seems to be no trickery. And
> there is a blog... http://hackthejoggler.blogspot.com/
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Kris Douglas]

On 6 April 2010 00:52, Daniel Case  wrote:
> Yeah, I'm not too sure what happened to the official "HackTheJoggler"
> site: http://www.hackthejoggler.com/ all i get is a 404 message.
>
> The closest i have found is this: http://hackthejoggler.freeforums.org
> and it looks like its been dorment since the middle of 2009, so im not
> quite sure if anyone successfully booted the netbook remix from it?
>
> ~Daniel

Youtube reports it's possible... And seems to be no trickery. And
there is a blog... http://hackthejoggler.blogspot.com/


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Daniel Case]

Yeah, I'm not too sure what happened to the official "HackTheJoggler"
site: http://www.hackthejoggler.com/ all i get is a 404 message.

The closest i have found is this: http://hackthejoggler.freeforums.org
and it looks like its been dorment since the middle of 2009, so im not
quite sure if anyone successfully booted the netbook remix from it?

~Daniel

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Kris Douglas  wrote:
> On 6 April 2010 00:41, Daniel Case  wrote:
>> I think I may get one tomorrow, very cheap and interesting piece of
>> hardware in my opinion if i can install Ubuntu Netbook Remix on it.
>>
>> I heard about it when it came out, but remember not liking the price,
>> thank you for telling us about the offer Alan, wouldnt have known
>> otherwise.
>
> Aye, thanks Alan. We should start a hacking thread, getting Ubuntu
> running on it, I've just ordered one too.
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Kris Douglas]

On 6 April 2010 00:41, Daniel Case  wrote:
> I think I may get one tomorrow, very cheap and interesting piece of
> hardware in my opinion if i can install Ubuntu Netbook Remix on it.
>
> I heard about it when it came out, but remember not liking the price,
> thank you for telling us about the offer Alan, wouldnt have known
> otherwise.

Aye, thanks Alan. We should start a hacking thread, getting Ubuntu
running on it, I've just ordered one too.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Daniel Case]

I think I may get one tomorrow, very cheap and interesting piece of
hardware in my opinion if i can install Ubuntu Netbook Remix on it.

I heard about it when it came out, but remember not liking the price,
thank you for telling us about the offer Alan, wouldnt have known
otherwise.

~Daniel

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Kris Douglas  wrote:
> On 6 April 2010 00:24, Alan Pope  wrote:
>> On 6 April 2010 00:22, Kris Douglas  wrote:
>>> On 6 April 2010 00:09, David Murdoch  wrote:
 Bit of a joke compared to the iPad... But not bad.
>>>
>>> for 50 quid sounds like a great little hack project.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah it's got my imagination running :)
>
> The atom in it should be more than capable of doing most things, and
> 512 ram is hardly limiting, ive yet to see something of this spec and
> ability so cheap.
>
> It would be a great remote desktop client, or little media server
> using the USB port
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Kris Douglas]

On 6 April 2010 00:24, Alan Pope  wrote:
> On 6 April 2010 00:22, Kris Douglas  wrote:
>> On 6 April 2010 00:09, David Murdoch  wrote:
>>> Bit of a joke compared to the iPad... But not bad.
>>
>> for 50 quid sounds like a great little hack project.
>>
>
> Yeah it's got my imagination running :)

The atom in it should be more than capable of doing most things, and
512 ram is hardly limiting, ive yet to see something of this spec and
ability so cheap.

It would be a great remote desktop client, or little media server
using the USB port


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Alan Pope]

On 6 April 2010 00:22, Kris Douglas  wrote:
> On 6 April 2010 00:09, David Murdoch  wrote:
>> Bit of a joke compared to the iPad... But not bad.
>
> for 50 quid sounds like a great little hack project.
>

Yeah it's got my imagination running :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Alan Pope]

On 6 April 2010 00:09, David Murdoch  wrote:
> Bit of a joke compared to the iPad... But not bad.

Humour was intended.

Maybe I'm to subtle.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[Kris Douglas]

On 6 April 2010 00:09, David Murdoch  wrote:
> Bit of a joke compared to the iPad... But not bad.

for 50 quid sounds like a great little hack project.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

[David Murdoch]

Bit of a joke compared to the iPad... But not bad.
-Original Message-
From: Alan Pope
Sent:  06/04/2010 00:03:20
Subject:  [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

No, not that Apple thing, but the O2 Joggler.

50 quid (for 14 days from 2nd April) and free delivery gets you a 7
inch touch screen device with:-

1.3GHz Intel Atom CPU
1GB storage
512MB RAM
Wired ethernet
Broadcom b/g/n WiFi
Audio + headphone jack
USB port

http://shop.o2.co.uk/joggler

It seems to come with a cut-down version of Ubuntu Hardy and can be
flashed to run 'proper' Ubuntu or Netbook Edition if you wish.

I thought it might be useful as a mythtv frontend for my desk or
bedside, or maybe even an IP telephone when paired with a suitable USB
headset.

Some links I've gathered:-

http://shop.o2.co.uk/joggler
http://robhu.livejournal.com/750902.html
http://magician.gforums.de/wiki/index.php5?title=UNE_Installation
http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=21187242
http://www.trustedreviews.com/peripherals/review/2009/07/01/O2-Joggler/p1
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/peripherals/253801/o2-joggler
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/646001/o2-joggler-49-99-now-with-free-app-

Cheers,
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