Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
Going back a couple of years now, we had to organise an event and the NEC worked out a lot more cost effective than places like Earls Court, Olympia, QE II Conference Centre, Barbican, Ally Pally etc etc Don't know costings thesedays though. E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 01 November 2007 18:38 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas Tony Arnold wrote: > On the location, my feeling is that if you run it in London people in > the far north of the country may miss out because of the travelling > time, so somewhere in the middle, I think would be better. > > Regards, > Tony. I'd agree with that, I'm in Torquay, Devon and I'd rather drive to Birmingham than London. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
> > From: Rob Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2007/11/01 Thu PM 06:38:20 GMT > To: British Ubuntu Talk > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas > > Tony Arnold wrote: > > > On the location, my feeling is that if you run it in London people in > > the far north of the country may miss out because of the travelling > > time, so somewhere in the middle, I think would be better. > > > > Regards, > > Tony. > > I'd agree with that, I'm in Torquay, Devon and I'd rather drive to > Birmingham than London. > > Rob > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > God yes I live in Surrey and I would rather go to Birmingham than London! Martin Lovell Martin Lovell - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
Tony Arnold wrote: > On the location, my feeling is that if you run it in London people in > the far north of the country may miss out because of the travelling > time, so somewhere in the middle, I think would be better. > > Regards, > Tony. I'd agree with that, I'm in Torquay, Devon and I'd rather drive to Birmingham than London. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
Hi John, On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 19:54 +, John Levin wrote: > As we've hit 12 people expressing interest in making an UbuCon UK > happen, I want to take the discussion of an UbuCon in the UK onward. > Yay. Thanks for taking the initiative on this John, it's a great idea and I think we can come up with something great in the time we have! > The fundamentals: When? Where? Who? What? > I'd take a step back and ask "Why?" Why are we looking to schedule an UbuConUK ? What do we want to achieve? > When? Sometime in Spring 2008, meaning March to May. Gives us time to > organise, we'll hopefully have some bearable weather, and could coincide > with the release of Hardy Heron at the end of April. > Sounds good. If it can be after the release that would be preferable in my opinion. We could get a bunch of CDs pressed in time for the event. Given Hardy is an LTS release this could be a good time to get a big wad of CDs to dish out. > Where? I'll say London, maybe because I'm a Londoner. I'd go for something more central like Birmingham / Manchester. London has the benefit of transport links from everywhere, the downside that things are more expensive and it's considerably further from various parts of the UK. > So: add your ideas to this thread; post them to the wiki > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/IdeasPool/UbuCon_UK > An open meeting on irc, or similar, will be organised soonish (after the > Boston Ubuntu Developer Summit is done). Sounds like a plan. Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
Pete Stean wrote: > I have *major* connections in Manchester, and may be able to sort out > something with the City Council IT people if this gets a bit firmer > (I'm not the Government liason with the Digital Challenge 10 group of > local authorities for nothing...) > > I could also move some levers with Brum, but the facilities I have in > mind in Manchester (right in the city centre with a great suite of > rooms) would be better I think > > And btw there's nothing wrong with redhat t-shirts, I have a baseball > cap and a badge in fact :) > > Pete > > I'm from Birmingham and currently living in Manchester (just to make my bias transparent). My Dad also lives in London Monday-Friday. Any of those three locations would be alright for me. However, I think there are some very decent venues in Manchester, and there are quite a few decent open source companies around Manchester that I would imagine to be interested in supporting an UbuConUK. Manchester also has very many students (many of whom are yet to hear the good news re: ubuntu). I also think it's a far better position for people traveling from all parts of the UK, with brilliant rail links and a nice big coach station. The pub scene is also very good, so there'll be plenty of places to socialise outside of the conference as well as inside it - and the prices are bound to be better than down south :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
I have *major* connections in Manchester, and may be able to sort out something with the City Council IT people if this gets a bit firmer (I'm not the Government liason with the Digital Challenge 10 group of local authorities for nothing...) I could also move some levers with Brum, but the facilities I have in mind in Manchester (right in the city centre with a great suite of rooms) would be better I think And btw there's nothing wrong with redhat t-shirts, I have a baseball cap and a badge in fact :) Pete -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
Andrew, Andrew Barber wrote: > I own the frapper map. I set it up a long while back and forgot about it. > > I am from Glasgow and I think that you are all talking alot of bollocks > ;) Scotland IS part of the UK and you should stop thinking that > Ubuntu-UK stops when it hits the border. Which is why I suggested a location like Manchester. And it's about as easy to get to as anywhere else in the country (motorway, train, coach, plane). > While I would personally favor a Scottish location, I would also add my > +1 to Manchester. Is anybody involved with the University there? Could > we borrow university facilitates etc? Yes, me! MANLUG also meets here at the University every month and we have some pretty conference facilities. Take a look at http://www.conference.manchester.ac.uk/ for more information. Given the activities suggested so far, I'm not sure that borrowing facilities is really going to work. If we want a half way professional looking conference, then we would need good local support from the people used to supporting conferences. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED], H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
> As you can see, location is quite crucial. When did I say it wasnt? What I said is that there are more important things to sort out first that will then influence the location decision. Are we expecting 1000 people or 20? Members of the press / public / just us / lugs? Are we expecting Podcasters? Is it actually possible for us to pull this off? Accomodation? Members of industry or fans? ALL of these things are crucial and need to be taken into consideration: it's not a case of 'We wanna do it here cos its central'. We need to do some serious research and find out. -- --- Matthew Larsen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
On 30/10/2007, Andrew Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 30/10/2007, Matthew Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > We need to figure out a few things first: > > > > 1) Is it *actually* pheasable? > > > This requires a location? Will we be getting a free hosting place, will > the closest ammeanities provide us with cheep sponsorship (if we are doing > that). > > 2) How many people do we expect to turn up? > > > Yet again, people up in Aberdeen may not travel to London, but they might > travel to location > > 3) Where are the people likely to turn up coming from? > > > Yet again, relative to location. If it were in london you would get more > concrete yes's. > > 4) How are we going to finance it? > > > Sponsors I would think, maybe a small entrance fee of a couple of quid. > > 5) How long will the event be? > > > I would think a day or two as much as a weekend. People wouldn't want to > take time off for these kind of things. > > 6) How are we going to market it? > > > We could send leaflets round to LUGs, try and get a notice (wallop) on > freenode, posters in universities, local (in relativity to the location) > leaflets in computer shops. > > > 7) What will be on show? > > > Ummm open floor for now, can be decided after. > > > As you can see, location is quite crucial. Mainly on the first few points. > People are willing to get involved when they know where it is, think about > any other scenario. Think about if somebody asked you to go to aKademy 07, > the first initial response (if you knew what it were) would be what > location. It is the same for the people involved with the organisation. > Choosing a location can then open us up to choosing a location with > amenities, this can higher or lower our scope on what can be done at the > UbuCon. Maybe there is a computer lab (with linux) within the place, then we > could open up the possibility of a Free Software Game Tournament, tutorials > and many other things. We can't offer something then find out later the > location does not have such facilities. > Could we all take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/IdeasPool/UbuCon_UK#head-23105941f518ba764282ef8a71fbac2d546ff2d6 -- Andrew Alexander Barber -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
On 30/10/2007, Matthew Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We need to figure out a few things first: > > 1) Is it *actually* pheasable? This requires a location? Will we be getting a free hosting place, will the closest ammeanities provide us with cheep sponsorship (if we are doing that). 2) How many people do we expect to turn up? Yet again, people up in Aberdeen may not travel to London, but they might travel to location 3) Where are the people likely to turn up coming from? Yet again, relative to location. If it were in london you would get more concrete yes's. 4) How are we going to finance it? Sponsors I would think, maybe a small entrance fee of a couple of quid. 5) How long will the event be? I would think a day or two as much as a weekend. People wouldn't want to take time off for these kind of things. 6) How are we going to market it? We could send leaflets round to LUGs, try and get a notice (wallop) on freenode, posters in universities, local (in relativity to the location) leaflets in computer shops. 7) What will be on show? Ummm open floor for now, can be decided after. As you can see, location is quite crucial. Mainly on the first few points. People are willing to get involved when they know where it is, think about any other scenario. Think about if somebody asked you to go to aKademy 07, the first initial response (if you knew what it were) would be what location. It is the same for the people involved with the organisation. Choosing a location can then open us up to choosing a location with amenities, this can higher or lower our scope on what can be done at the UbuCon. Maybe there is a computer lab (with linux) within the place, then we could open up the possibility of a Free Software Game Tournament, tutorials and many other things. We can't offer something then find out later the location does not have such facilities. -- Andrew Alexander Barber -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
Or we could have a better one just for scots!!! Lol. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Barber Sent: 30 October 2007 01:36 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas On 29/10/2007, John Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, As we've hit 12 people expressing interest in making an UbuCon UK happen, I want to take the discussion of an UbuCon in the UK onward. The fundamentals: When? Where? Who? What? When? Sometime in Spring 2008, meaning March to May. Gives us time to organise, we'll hopefully have some bearable weather, and could coincide with the release of Hardy Heron at the end of April. Where? I'll say London, maybe because I'm a Londoner. I can think of a number of venues that could host us. That said, it's an expensive place. Other options could be any city with decent transport links and people on the ground - Birmingham, Manchester, Bristol, Cardiff, Edinburgh. There has to be a core team of people in place, who know the area and can donate brain and brawn, though. Who? You! We will need people to organise, help out on the day, run stalls, give talks. Plus, we need to reach out and get people to attend, whether they're already using Ubuntu or are curious as to what this linux lark is all about. What? The attractions. We can have stalls, films, talks from the likes of SABDFL, an Ubuntu-powered arcade, a laptop troubleshooting team fixing boxes brought in, space for spontaneous BOFs and meetings I'd also like to invite organisations and projects that aren't strictly Ubuntu but related (or at least have software that runs on Ubuntu), such as the Open Rights Group and OpenStreetMap, to broaden the horizons. So: add your ideas to this thread; post them to the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/IdeasPool/UbuCon_UK An open meeting on irc, or similar, will be organised soonish (after the Boston Ubuntu Developer Summit is done). John I own the frapper map. I set it up a long while back and forgot about it. I am from Glasgow and I think that you are all talking alot of bollocks ;) Scotland IS part of the UK and you should stop thinking that Ubuntu-UK stops when it hits the border. While I would personally favor a Scottish location, I would also add my +1 to Manchester. Is anybody involved with the University there? Could we borrow university facilitates etc? I am sure this could be an open debate [though probably never solved!] on IRC. I suppose this is one of the first major milestones that we need to overcome. :D -- Andrew Alexander Barber -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
whoa whoa whoa everyone cool it! Deciding on location is waaay too ahead of the game here! We need to figure out a few things first: 1) Is it *actually* pheasable? 2) How many people do we expect to turn up? 3) Where are the people likely to turn up coming from? 4) How are we going to finance it? 5) How long will the event be? 6) How are we going to market it? 7) What will be on show? I think once we have a clearer idea on these things, THEN we can have the row over location. Regards,, On 30/10/2007, Chris Rowson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think one of the problems here is that we seem to have a > disproportionate number of Southerners/Londoners to everywhere else in > the country. Thus people are always going to be biased and say - > London is the best place to do this ;-) > > One of the major problems with London however, is the expense of doing > anything down there > > I'd love to suggest, lets have this event in Hull, Leeds or York, but > that'd only suit me and not most of the rest of you :-P > > Chris > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > -- --- Matthew Larsen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
I think one of the problems here is that we seem to have a disproportionate number of Southerners/Londoners to everywhere else in the country. Thus people are always going to be biased and say - London is the best place to do this ;-) One of the major problems with London however, is the expense of doing anything down there I'd love to suggest, lets have this event in Hull, Leeds or York, but that'd only suit me and not most of the rest of you :-P Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
On 29/10/2007, John Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > As we've hit 12 people expressing interest in making an UbuCon UK > happen, I want to take the discussion of an UbuCon in the UK onward. > > The fundamentals: When? Where? Who? What? > > When? Sometime in Spring 2008, meaning March to May. Gives us time to > organise, we'll hopefully have some bearable weather, and could coincide > with the release of Hardy Heron at the end of April. > > Where? I'll say London, maybe because I'm a Londoner. I can think of a > number of venues that could host us. That said, it's an expensive place. > Other options could be any city with decent transport links and people > on the ground - Birmingham, Manchester, Bristol, Cardiff, Edinburgh. > There has to be a core team of people in place, who know the area and > can donate brain and brawn, though. > > Who? You! We will need people to organise, help out on the day, run > stalls, give talks. Plus, we need to reach out and get people to attend, > whether they're already using Ubuntu or are curious as to what this > linux lark is all about. > > What? The attractions. We can have stalls, films, talks from the likes > of SABDFL, an Ubuntu-powered arcade, a laptop troubleshooting team > fixing boxes brought in, space for spontaneous BOFs and meetings > > I'd also like to invite organisations and projects that aren't strictly > Ubuntu but related (or at least have software that runs on Ubuntu), such > as the Open Rights Group and OpenStreetMap, to broaden the horizons. > > So: add your ideas to this thread; post them to the wiki > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/IdeasPool/UbuCon_UK > An open meeting on irc, or similar, will be organised soonish (after the > Boston Ubuntu Developer Summit is done). > > John I own the frapper map. I set it up a long while back and forgot about it. I am from Glasgow and I think that you are all talking alot of bollocks ;) Scotland IS part of the UK and you should stop thinking that Ubuntu-UK stops when it hits the border. While I would personally favor a Scottish location, I would also add my +1 to Manchester. Is anybody involved with the University there? Could we borrow university facilitates etc? I am sure this could be an open debate [though probably never solved!] on IRC. I suppose this is one of the first major milestones that we need to overcome. :D -- Andrew Alexander Barber -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
Cambridge is easy to get to from anywhere and has some great college venues, you might even get one of them to donate a venue. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Send ubuntu-uk mailing list submissions to > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-uk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: UbuCon UK Ideas (Tony Arnold) >2. Re: UbuCon UK Ideas (John Levin) >3. Re: UbuCon UK Ideas (James Grabham) >4. Re: UbuCon UK Ideas (Tony Arnold) >5. Re: UbuCon UK Ideas (Tony Arnold) >6. Re: Cisco VPN Client (James Tait) >7. Re: UbuCon UK Ideas (Chris Rowson) >8. Re: UbuCon UK Ideas (Chris Oattes) >9. Re: UbuCon UK Ideas (Tony Arnold) > > > ------ > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:56:21 + > From: Tony Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas > To: British Ubuntu Talk > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > John, > > John Levin wrote: > > >> As we've hit 12 people expressing interest in making an UbuCon UK >> happen, I want to take the discussion of an UbuCon in the UK onward. >> >> The fundamentals: When? Where? Who? What? >> > > And also how much? How do you see this working financially? With the > ideas below we will need a sizeable venue with the right facilities > which will cost money! Also if you want the stalls to look good, you > probably want someone to build the stands. Will this be free entry or > are we charging attendees? > > Regards, > Tony. > -- Finally - A spam blocker that actually works. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/4 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
** Tony Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-29 23:32]: > Chris Rowson wrote: > >> On the location, my feeling is that if you run it in London people in > >> the far north of the country may miss out because of the travelling > >> time, so somewhere in the middle, I think would be better. > > > > Agreed, Somewhere nice and central would be good. Birmingham seems > > pretty central to both north and south dwellers. Manchester is maybe a > > little more north (although not so far for me!) > > Depends if you include Scotland! > > Do we have a map anywhere showing the distribution of Linux users around > the country? If not, maybe we should create one, although I would have > no idea how to! ** end quote [Tony Arnold] I was going to create a quick and dirty Frappr map (I'd all but forgotten about them!), but did a quick search first and there appears to be a Ububtu-UK map already. Does anyone here own it? It has no member which is a bit sad in some respects!! I've just send a message to the admin to find out a bit more about it. Probably only just setup, but Frappr has no meand of finding out when these were created or who owns the, etc. -- Paul Tansom | Aptanet Ltd. | http://www.aptanet.com/ | 023 9238 0001 == Registered in England | Company No: 4905028 | Registered Office: Crawford House, Hambledon Road, Denmead, Waterlooville, Hants, PO7 6NU -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
** Chris Rowson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-29 23:18]: > > On the location, my feeling is that if you run it in London people in > > the far north of the country may miss out because of the travelling > > time, so somewhere in the middle, I think would be better. > > Agreed, Somewhere nice and central would be good. Birmingham seems > pretty central to both north and south dwellers. Manchester is maybe a > little more north (although not so far for me!) ** end quote [Chris Rowson] I'm clearly far too much of a southerner here. I tend to find a that any event north of London is as good as impossible to make. Then again I detest visiting London on the whole. All that said, I do have other factors that make anything that is more than a long day trip a challenge to organise. LUG Radio Live I wanted to make, but couldn't organise, I had organised the Linux Expo and then they went and postponed it the rotten $*&s. If I can get my camper van back on the road (fun logistics of getting it to a garage without starting it) something with a camp site near by would aid the accomodation situation! Even better, something with a nice mooring near by would allow me to sail there ;) Cowes, IoW anyone? -- Paul Tansom | Aptanet Ltd. | http://www.aptanet.com/ | 023 9238 0001 == Registered in England | Company No: 4905028 | Registered Office: Crawford House, Hambledon Road, Denmead, Waterlooville, Hants, PO7 6NU -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
Chris Rowson wrote: >> On the location, my feeling is that if you run it in London people in >> the far north of the country may miss out because of the travelling >> time, so somewhere in the middle, I think would be better. >> >> Regards, >> Tony. >> -- > > Agreed, Somewhere nice and central would be good. Birmingham seems > pretty central to both north and south dwellers. Manchester is maybe a > little more north (although not so far for me!) > > Chris > > Location is always going to be a cause for debate, and won't satisfy everyone. Bear in mind that there's no reason only one ubucon will be held in the UK; if the first one works, well, it'll be the first of many and can be rotated around the country. Personally, I'd like it to be in London because, well, that's where I am. It also has Ubuntu HQ, good rail connections, and lots of people. Also, every free software event this year has been outside the capital: aKademy (Glasgow), Debconf (Edinburgh), Lug Radio Live (Wolves), Open Street Map (Manchester), Gnome (Birmingham). C'mon, let the Cockneys have a go! Seriously, the single most important factor is that wherever UbuCon UK is held, there is a team of people on the ground, who can do the neccessary legwork. So if you propose a place, please consider how many people live there, and if you can offer any sort of accomodation for out-of-town helpers. John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
> Chris Rowson said the following on 29/10/07 23:13: > >> On the location, my feeling is that if you run it in London people in > >> the far north of the country may miss out because of the travelling > >> time, so somewhere in the middle, I think would be better. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Tony. > >> -- > > > > Agreed, Somewhere nice and central would be good. Birmingham seems > > pretty central to both north and south dwellers. Manchester is maybe a > > little more north (although not so far for me!) > > > > Chris > > > > > Isn't London the centre of the UK? :P I wouldn't say that it's the geographical centre but it is the easiest place for lots of us to get to, despite our location in the UK, by transport. So you could call it the centre by proxy ;) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
Chris, Chris Rowson wrote: >> On the location, my feeling is that if you run it in London people in >> the far north of the country may miss out because of the travelling >> time, so somewhere in the middle, I think would be better. >> >> Regards, >> Tony. >> -- > > Agreed, Somewhere nice and central would be good. Birmingham seems > pretty central to both north and south dwellers. Manchester is maybe a > little more north (although not so far for me!) Depends if you include Scotland! Do we have a map anywhere showing the distribution of Linux users around the country? If not, maybe we should create one, although I would have no idea how to! Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED], H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
Chris Rowson said the following on 29/10/07 23:13: >> On the location, my feeling is that if you run it in London people in >> the far north of the country may miss out because of the travelling >> time, so somewhere in the middle, I think would be better. >> >> Regards, >> Tony. >> -- > > Agreed, Somewhere nice and central would be good. Birmingham seems > pretty central to both north and south dwellers. Manchester is maybe a > little more north (although not so far for me!) > > Chris > > Isn't London the centre of the UK? :P Chris Oattes. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
> > On the location, my feeling is that if you run it in London people in > the far north of the country may miss out because of the travelling > time, so somewhere in the middle, I think would be better. > > Regards, > Tony. > -- Agreed, Somewhere nice and central would be good. Birmingham seems pretty central to both north and south dwellers. Manchester is maybe a little more north (although not so far for me!) Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
James, James Grabham wrote: > If its Ubuntu UK, we shouldnt have it in the south of England, we should > put it in the north, Newcastle, or Edinburgh, Maybe Manchester at a push. Us folks in Manchester think we are in the north too! Seriously it needs to be somewhere in the middle really. > (Is it that subtle that im a northerner lol XD) About as subtle as a brick:-) Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED], H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
John, John Levin wrote: > Tony Arnold wrote: >> John, >> >> John Levin wrote: >> >>> As we've hit 12 people expressing interest in making an UbuCon UK >>> happen, I want to take the discussion of an UbuCon in the UK onward. >>> >>> The fundamentals: When? Where? Who? What? >> And also how much? How do you see this working financially? With the >> ideas below we will need a sizeable venue with the right facilities >> which will cost money! Also if you want the stalls to look good, you >> probably want someone to build the stands. Will this be free entry or >> are we charging attendees? >> >> Regards, >> Tony. > > Generally, I'd hope the event would be financed by sponsors and > commercial stalls (Canonical, O'Reilly, the 3 UK Linux magazines - all > this to be discussed). If Lug Radio Live can do it, then so can we - > without getting swamped in Red Hat tshirts ;) > > Entry charge? Probably, but it's got to be v. affordable. Lug Radio Live > charged a fiver. We have conference facilities here at the University of Manchester. I can make enquiries. It's run as a commercial venture so it will be close to commercial prices. On the location, my feeling is that if you run it in London people in the far north of the country may miss out because of the travelling time, so somewhere in the middle, I think would be better. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED], H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
If its Ubuntu UK, we shouldnt have it in the south of England, we should put it in the north, Newcastle, or Edinburgh, Maybe Manchester at a push. (Is it that subtle that im a northerner lol XD) On 10/29/07, John Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > As we've hit 12 people expressing interest in making an UbuCon UK > happen, I want to take the discussion of an UbuCon in the UK onward. > > The fundamentals: When? Where? Who? What? > > When? Sometime in Spring 2008, meaning March to May. Gives us time to > organise, we'll hopefully have some bearable weather, and could coincide > with the release of Hardy Heron at the end of April. > > Where? I'll say London, maybe because I'm a Londoner. I can think of a > number of venues that could host us. That said, it's an expensive place. > Other options could be any city with decent transport links and people > on the ground - Birmingham, Manchester, Bristol, Cardiff, Edinburgh. > There has to be a core team of people in place, who know the area and > can donate brain and brawn, though. > > Who? You! We will need people to organise, help out on the day, run > stalls, give talks. Plus, we need to reach out and get people to attend, > whether they're already using Ubuntu or are curious as to what this > linux lark is all about. > > What? The attractions. We can have stalls, films, talks from the likes > of SABDFL, an Ubuntu-powered arcade, a laptop troubleshooting team > fixing boxes brought in, space for spontaneous BOFs and meetings > > I'd also like to invite organisations and projects that aren't strictly > Ubuntu but related (or at least have software that runs on Ubuntu), such > as the Open Rights Group and OpenStreetMap, to broaden the horizons. > > So: add your ideas to this thread; post them to the wiki > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/IdeasPool/UbuCon_UK > An open meeting on irc, or similar, will be organised soonish (after the > Boston Ubuntu Developer Summit is done). > > John > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
Tony Arnold wrote: > John, > > John Levin wrote: > >> As we've hit 12 people expressing interest in making an UbuCon UK >> happen, I want to take the discussion of an UbuCon in the UK onward. >> >> The fundamentals: When? Where? Who? What? > > And also how much? How do you see this working financially? With the > ideas below we will need a sizeable venue with the right facilities > which will cost money! Also if you want the stalls to look good, you > probably want someone to build the stands. Will this be free entry or > are we charging attendees? > > Regards, > Tony. Generally, I'd hope the event would be financed by sponsors and commercial stalls (Canonical, O'Reilly, the 3 UK Linux magazines - all this to be discussed). If Lug Radio Live can do it, then so can we - without getting swamped in Red Hat tshirts ;) Entry charge? Probably, but it's got to be v. affordable. Lug Radio Live charged a fiver. HTH John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas
John, John Levin wrote: > As we've hit 12 people expressing interest in making an UbuCon UK > happen, I want to take the discussion of an UbuCon in the UK onward. > > The fundamentals: When? Where? Who? What? And also how much? How do you see this working financially? With the ideas below we will need a sizeable venue with the right facilities which will cost money! Also if you want the stalls to look good, you probably want someone to build the stands. Will this be free entry or are we charging attendees? Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED], H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
