Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again
On 12 August 2011 08:56, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: I've noticed some dirt cheap webcams in places like Wilkos and BM for round about £10 (with microphones). Names are things like Itexet (AFAIR) Anyone tested these? Texet http://youtu.be/wLE7KQgQMcQ I would avoid it. Probably better off getting some cheap logitech. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again
Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Alan Pope Sent: 12 August 2011 09:22 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again On 12 August 2011 08:56, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com mailto:gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: I've noticed some dirt cheap webcams in places like Wilkos and BM for round about £10 (with microphones). Names are things like Itexet (AFAIR) Anyone tested these? Texet http://youtu.be/wLE7KQgQMcQ http://youtu.be/wLE7KQgQMcQ I would avoid it. Probably better off getting some cheap logitech. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ I've just bought a Logitech C270 HD from Amazon for £17.99. It's excellent and works flawlessly in Ubuntu Natty. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again
On 2011-08-12 09:48, darren.mans...@opengi.co.uk wrote: I’ve just bought a Logitech C270 HD from Amazon for £17.99. It’s excellent and works flawlessly in Ubuntu Natty. Thanks for the tip. I've been looking for a replacement for my simple 640x480 generic Logitech attached to my television . Can you swivel it, so it is looking at an angle that isn't perpendicular to the base? How does it attach? Regards, Tyler -- [...] the effectiveness of pat-downs does not matter very much, because the obvious goal of the TSA is to make the pat-down embarrassing enough for the average passenger that the vast majority of people will choose high-tech humiliation over the low-tech ball check. -- Jeffrey Goldberg, For the First Time, the TSA Meets Resistance The Atlantic, 2010-10-29 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again
On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 08:56 +0100, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: I've noticed some dirt cheap webcams in places like Wilkos and BM for round about £10 (with microphones). Names are things like Itexet (AFAIR) Anyone tested these? Best is to look for a good deal on a Logitech webcam then go to the Logitech site and see if it is one of their UVC (USB Video Class) standard webcams which are fully supported in Linux http://www.quickcamteam.net/devices I did see a report that someone had done a lot of fantastic work to get other types of webcams supported, but I would stick to UVC. Tony -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again
-Original Message- From: Tyler J. Wagner [mailto:ty...@tolaris.com] Sent: 12 August 2011 09:55 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Cc: Darren Mansell Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again On 2011-08-12 09:48, darren.mans...@opengi.co.uk mailto:darren.mans...@opengi.co.uk wrote: I've just bought a Logitech C270 HD from Amazon for £17.99. It's excellent and works flawlessly in Ubuntu Natty. Thanks for the tip. I've been looking for a replacement for my simple 640x480 generic Logitech attached to my television . Can you swivel it, so it is looking at an angle that isn't perpendicular to the base? How does it attach? Regards, Tyler -- [...] the effectiveness of pat-downs does not matter very much, because the obvious goal of the TSA is to make the pat-down embarrassing enough for the average passenger that the vast majority of people will choose high-tech humiliation over the low-tech ball check. -- Jeffrey Goldberg, For the First Time, the TSA Meets Resistance The Atlantic, 2010-10-29 Unfortunately it's very much a sit on top of the monitor and face forward type. It's quite flat and operates in the same way as a built-in webcam in a laptop. It's quite clear on the site: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-960-000582-C270-HD-Webcam/dp/B003R1O320 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again
On 12/08/2011 10:05, Tony Pursell wrote: On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 08:56 +0100, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: I've noticed some dirt cheap webcams in places like Wilkos and BM for round about £10 (with microphones). Names are things like Itexet (AFAIR) Anyone tested these? Best is to look for a good deal on a Logitech webcam then go to the Logitech site and see if it is one of their UVC (USB Video Class) standard webcams which are fully supported in Linux http://www.quickcamteam.net/devices I did see a report that someone had done a lot of fantastic work to get other types of webcams supported, but I would stick to UVC. I discovered an old Logitech webcam in a cupboard - I /think/ it might be a C120 but I don't know - there are no marks on it that I can see. I ran Live Cds both for Ubuntu 11.04 and Linux Mint, installed Cheese and Skype. Cheese could open the webcam in both, but the latest Skype edition, 2.2 beta, although it could see the webcam was there, wouldn't open it, on EITHER distros. I don't really want to install a distro to my (small) HDD until I can get that sorted. Is there a problem with the current version of Skype? My Netbook (which is currently awaiting a new screen as it got cracked) has a built-in webcam and that gets used by Skype OK OOTB! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again
On 12 August 2011 12:21, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/08/2011 10:05, Tony Pursell wrote: On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 08:56 +0100, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: I've noticed some dirt cheap webcams in places like Wilkos and BM for round about £10 (with microphones). Names are things like Itexet (AFAIR) Anyone tested these? Best is to look for a good deal on a Logitech webcam then go to the Logitech site and see if it is one of their UVC (USB Video Class) standard webcams which are fully supported in Linux http://www.quickcamteam.net/**deviceshttp://www.quickcamteam.net/devices I did see a report that someone had done a lot of fantastic work to get other types of webcams supported, but I would stick to UVC. I discovered an old Logitech webcam in a cupboard - I /think/ it might be a C120 but I don't know - there are no marks on it that I can see. I ran Live Cds both for Ubuntu 11.04 and Linux Mint, installed Cheese and Skype. Cheese could open the webcam in both, but the latest Skype edition, 2.2 beta, although it could see the webcam was there, wouldn't open it, on EITHER distros. I don't really want to install a distro to my (small) HDD until I can get that sorted. Is there a problem with the current version of Skype? My Netbook (which is currently awaiting a new screen as it got cracked) has a built-in webcam and that gets used by Skype OK OOTB! -- In Skype, click the little S icon at the bottom and select Options Video Devices. What do you see under Select Webcam. I get 'UVC Camera (046d:0804) (/dev/video0)' and when I click on the Test Webcam button I get myself shown (not a pretty sight (-: ). So what do you get? Tony -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again
On 12/08/11 12:21, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: Is there a problem with the current version of Skype? My Netbook (which is currently awaiting a new screen as it got cracked) has a built-in webcam and that gets used by Skype OK OOTB! I have 2.2 beta running with 10.04 and Natty, and it seems to find the camera OK. But - my sister made the mistake of firing up Cheese before firing up Skype 'just to check out the camera'. Cheese takes sole control of the camera and Skype doesn't find it! She now knows different! Regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again
On 12/08/2011 13:51, Tony Pursell wrote: In Skype, click the little S icon at the bottom and select Options Video Devices. What do you see under Select Webcam. I get 'UVC Camera (046d:0804) (/dev/video0)' Got that OK and when I click on the Test Webcam button I get myself shown (not a pretty sight (-: ). So what do you get? Nothing - the box remains black and the little webcam led light fails to come on. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again
On 12/08/2011 13:51, Tony Pursell wrote: In Skype, click the little S icon at the bottom and select Options Video Devices. What do you see under Select Webcam. I get 'UVC Camera (046d:0804) (/dev/video0)' Hmmm. Not sure whether it said UVC or USB -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again
On 12/08/2011 13:51, Tony Pursell wrote: I get 'UVC Camera I've just tested it again - it shows as USB not UVC. Also the part number on the label on the connecting cable is NOT listed herehttp://www.quickcamteam.net/devices/logitech_uvc_device_list.pdf either. Is that why although it works in Cheese it doesn't work in Skype? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again
On 12 August 2011 14:18, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/08/2011 13:51, Tony Pursell wrote: I get 'UVC Camera I've just tested it again - it shows as USB not UVC. Also the part number on the label on the connecting cable is NOT listed here http://www.quickcamteam.net/devices/logitech_uvc_device_list.pdfeither. Is that why although it works in Cheese it doesn't work in Skype? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Do you get the ID, like I get (046d:0804) for mine. This is Manufacturer:Device ID. I.e. 046d is Logitech. This is what you need for looking up details. Unfortunately, no manufacturer ever puts it on the box or on the device itself. You should see it if you run lsusb in a terminal. Tony -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again
On 12/08/2011 14:59, Tony Pursell wrote: On 12 August 2011 14:18, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com mailto:gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/08/2011 13:51, Tony Pursell wrote: I get 'UVC Camera I've just tested it again - it shows as USB not UVC. Also the part number on the label on the connecting cable is NOT listed herehttp://www.quickcamteam.net/devices/logitech_uvc_device_list.pdf either. Is that why although it works in Cheese it doesn't work in Skype? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Do you get the ID, like I get (046d:0804) for mine. This is Manufacturer:Device ID. I.e. 046d is Logitech. This is what you need for looking up details. Unfortunately, no manufacturer ever puts it on the box or on the device itself. You should see it if you run lsusb in a terminal. Output of lsusb: Bus 006 Device 003: ID 046d:08af Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Easy/Cool Assuming 08af is the device identifier, that isn't there either... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again
On 12/08/11 15:53, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: Output of lsusb: Bus 006 Device 003: ID 046d:08af Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Easy/Cool Assuming 08af is the device identifier, that isn't there either... Don't know if it helps but the first thing Google threw up was: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/046d%3A08af%20Logitech,%20Inc.%20QuickCam%20Easy/Cool Cheers Al -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again
On 12/08/2011 16:04, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 12/08/11 15:53, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: Output of lsusb: Bus 006 Device 003: ID 046d:08af Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Easy/Cool Assuming 08af is the device identifier, that isn't there either... Don't know if it helps but the first thing Google threw up was: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/046d%3A08af%20Logitech,%20Inc.%20QuickCam%20Easy/Cool Thanks for that - went out straight away after the last post so had no opportunity to Google! That looks tricky in the sense that those commmands are to get it to work in Cheese - it already DOES work in Cheese without any tweaking, so I assume 11.04 has gqcam already loaded and running. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again
On 12 August 2011 16:04, Alan Lord (News) alansli...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/08/11 15:53, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: Output of lsusb: Bus 006 Device 003: ID 046d:08af Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Easy/Cool Assuming 08af is the device identifier, that isn't there either... Don't know if it helps but the first thing Google threw up was: https://help.ubuntu.com/**community/046d%3A08af%** 20Logitech,%20Inc.%20QuickCam%**20Easy/Coolhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/046d%3A08af%20Logitech,%20Inc.%20QuickCam%20Easy/Cool Cheers Al -- This was the last webcam I tried to get going and failed. That's not to say that it won't work now (or maybe in 11.10) as I gather a lot of work has been done since then. It is listed here http://www.quickcamteam.net/devices/non-uvc-webcams as a non-UVC webcam that needs the gspca driver, which I think the wiki article is about, but when I tried installing it I did not have much success. My advice remains: find a UVC compliant webcam. Tony -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/