Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again

2011-08-12 Thread Alan Pope
On 12 August 2011 08:56, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've noticed some dirt cheap webcams in places like Wilkos and BM for round
 about £10 (with microphones). Names are things like Itexet (AFAIR)
 Anyone tested these?


Texet

http://youtu.be/wLE7KQgQMcQ

I would avoid it.

Probably better off getting some cheap logitech.

Al.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again

2011-08-12 Thread Darren.Mansell
 

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[mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Alan Pope
Sent: 12 August 2011 09:22
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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again

 

On 12 August 2011 08:56, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com 
mailto:gbpli...@gmail.com  wrote:

 I've noticed some dirt cheap webcams in places like Wilkos and BM for 

 round about £10 (with microphones). Names are things like Itexet 

 (AFAIR) Anyone tested these?

 

 

Texet

 

http://youtu.be/wLE7KQgQMcQ http://youtu.be/wLE7KQgQMcQ 

 

I would avoid it.

 

Probably better off getting some cheap logitech.

 

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I've just bought a Logitech C270 HD from Amazon for £17.99. It's excellent and 
works flawlessly in Ubuntu Natty.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again

2011-08-12 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2011-08-12 09:48, darren.mans...@opengi.co.uk wrote:
 I’ve just bought a Logitech C270 HD from Amazon for £17.99. It’s
 excellent and works flawlessly in Ubuntu Natty.

Thanks for the tip. I've been looking for a replacement for my simple
640x480 generic Logitech attached to my television . Can you swivel it,
so it is looking at an angle that isn't perpendicular to the base? How
does it attach?

Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again

2011-08-12 Thread Tony Pursell
On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 08:56 +0100, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
 I've noticed some dirt cheap webcams in places like Wilkos and BM
for
 round about £10 (with microphones). Names are things like Itexet
(AFAIR)
 Anyone tested these?


Best is to look for a good deal on a Logitech webcam then go to the
Logitech site and see if it is one of their UVC (USB Video Class)
standard webcams which are fully supported in Linux

http://www.quickcamteam.net/devices

I did see a report that someone had done a lot of fantastic work to
get
other types of webcams supported, but I would stick to UVC.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again

2011-08-12 Thread Darren.Mansell
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From: Tyler J. Wagner [mailto:ty...@tolaris.com] 
Sent: 12 August 2011 09:55
To: UK Ubuntu Talk
Cc: Darren Mansell
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again

 

On 2011-08-12 09:48, darren.mans...@opengi.co.uk 
mailto:darren.mans...@opengi.co.uk  wrote:

 I've just bought a Logitech C270 HD from Amazon for £17.99. It's 

 excellent and works flawlessly in Ubuntu Natty.

 

Thanks for the tip. I've been looking for a replacement for my simple

640x480 generic Logitech attached to my television . Can you swivel it, so it 
is looking at an angle that isn't perpendicular to the base? How does it attach?

 

Regards,

Tyler

 

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average passenger that the vast majority of people will choose high-tech 
humiliation over the low-tech ball check.

   -- Jeffrey Goldberg, For the First Time, the TSA Meets Resistance

  The Atlantic, 2010-10-29

 

 

 

Unfortunately it's very much a sit on top of the monitor and face forward type. 
It's quite flat and operates in the same way as a built-in webcam in a laptop. 
It's quite clear on the site: 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-960-000582-C270-HD-Webcam/dp/B003R1O320 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again

2011-08-12 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 12/08/2011 10:05, Tony Pursell wrote:

On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 08:56 +0100, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
 I've noticed some dirt cheap webcams in places like Wilkos and BM for
 round about £10 (with microphones). Names are things like Itexet (AFAIR)
 Anyone tested these?


Best is to look for a good deal on a Logitech webcam then go 
to the

Logitech site and see if it is one of their UVC (USB Video Class)
standard webcams which are fully supported in Linux

http://www.quickcamteam.net/devices

I did see a report that someone had done a lot of fantastic 
work to get

other types of webcams supported, but I would stick to UVC.


I discovered an old Logitech webcam in a cupboard - I /think/ it might 
be a C120 but I don't know - there are no marks on it that I can see.
I ran Live Cds both for Ubuntu 11.04 and Linux Mint, installed Cheese 
and Skype. Cheese could open the webcam in both, but the latest Skype 
edition, 2.2 beta, although it could see the webcam was there, wouldn't 
open it, on EITHER distros.
I don't really want to install a distro to my (small) HDD until I can 
get that sorted.
Is there a problem with the current version of Skype? My Netbook (which 
is currently awaiting a new screen as it got cracked) has a built-in 
webcam and that gets used by Skype OK OOTB!


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again

2011-08-12 Thread Tony Pursell
On 12 August 2011 12:21, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:


 On 12/08/2011 10:05, Tony Pursell wrote:

 On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 08:56 +0100, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
  I've noticed some dirt cheap webcams in places like Wilkos and BM for
  round about £10 (with microphones). Names are things like Itexet (AFAIR)
  Anyone tested these?
 

Best is to look for a good deal on a Logitech webcam then go to the
Logitech site and see if it is one of their UVC (USB Video Class)
standard webcams which are fully supported in Linux

 http://www.quickcamteam.net/**deviceshttp://www.quickcamteam.net/devices

I did see a report that someone had done a lot of fantastic work to
 get
other types of webcams supported, but I would stick to UVC.


  I discovered an old Logitech webcam in a cupboard - I /think/ it might be
 a C120 but I don't know - there are no marks on it that I can see.
 I ran Live Cds both for Ubuntu 11.04 and Linux Mint, installed Cheese and
 Skype. Cheese could open the webcam in both, but the latest Skype edition,
 2.2 beta, although it could see the webcam was there, wouldn't open it, on
 EITHER distros.
 I don't really want to install a distro to my (small) HDD until I can get
 that sorted.
 Is there a problem with the current version of Skype? My Netbook (which is
 currently awaiting a new screen as it got cracked) has a built-in webcam and
 that gets used by Skype OK OOTB!

 --


In Skype, click the little S icon at the bottom and select Options  Video
Devices.  What do you see under Select Webcam.  I get 'UVC Camera
(046d:0804) (/dev/video0)' and when I click on the Test Webcam button I get
myself shown (not a pretty sight (-: ).  So what do you get?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again

2011-08-12 Thread Barry Drake

On 12/08/11 12:21, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:


 Is there a problem with the current version of Skype? My Netbook
 (which is currently awaiting a new screen as it got cracked) has a
 built-in webcam and that gets used by Skype OK OOTB!


I have 2.2 beta running with 10.04 and Natty, and it seems to find the
camera OK.  But - my sister made the mistake of firing up Cheese before
firing up Skype 'just to check out the camera'.  Cheese takes sole
control of the camera and Skype doesn't find it!  She now knows different!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again

2011-08-12 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 12/08/2011 13:51, Tony Pursell wrote:
In Skype, click the little S icon at the bottom and select Options  
Video Devices.  What do you see under Select Webcam.  I get 'UVC 
Camera (046d:0804) (/dev/video0)' 


Got that OK

and when I click on the Test Webcam button I get myself shown (not a 
pretty sight (-: ).  So what do you get?


Nothing - the box remains black and the little webcam led light fails to 
come on.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again

2011-08-12 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 12/08/2011 13:51, Tony Pursell wrote:
In Skype, click the little S icon at the bottom and select Options  
Video Devices.  What do you see under Select Webcam.  I get 'UVC 
Camera (046d:0804) (/dev/video0)'

Hmmm. Not sure whether it said UVC or USB

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again

2011-08-12 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 12/08/2011 13:51, Tony Pursell wrote:

I get 'UVC Camera


I've just tested it again - it shows as USB not UVC.
Also the part number on the label on the connecting cable is NOT listed 
herehttp://www.quickcamteam.net/devices/logitech_uvc_device_list.pdf either.


Is that why although it works in Cheese it doesn't work in Skype?
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again

2011-08-12 Thread Tony Pursell
On 12 August 2011 14:18, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 12/08/2011 13:51, Tony Pursell wrote:

 I get 'UVC Camera


 I've just tested it again - it shows as USB not UVC.
 Also the part number on the label on the connecting cable is NOT listed
 here http://www.quickcamteam.net/devices/logitech_uvc_device_list.pdfeither.

 Is that why although it works in Cheese it doesn't work in Skype?

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Do you get the ID, like I get (046d:0804) for mine.   This is
Manufacturer:Device ID.  I.e. 046d is Logitech.  This is what you need for
looking up details.  Unfortunately, no manufacturer ever puts it on the box
or on the device itself.  You should see it if you run lsusb in a terminal.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again

2011-08-12 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 12/08/2011 14:59, Tony Pursell wrote:



On 12 August 2011 14:18, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com 
mailto:gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:


On 12/08/2011 13:51, Tony Pursell wrote:

I get 'UVC Camera


I've just tested it again - it shows as USB not UVC.
Also the part number on the label on the connecting cable is NOT
listed
herehttp://www.quickcamteam.net/devices/logitech_uvc_device_list.pdf
either.

Is that why although it works in Cheese it doesn't work in Skype?

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Do you get the ID, like I get (046d:0804) for mine.   This is 
Manufacturer:Device ID.  I.e. 046d is Logitech.  This is what you need 
for looking up details.  Unfortunately, no manufacturer ever puts it 
on the box or on the device itself.  You should see it if you run 
lsusb in a terminal.




Output of lsusb: Bus 006 Device 003: ID 046d:08af Logitech, Inc. 
QuickCam Easy/Cool

Assuming 08af is the device identifier, that isn't there either...
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again

2011-08-12 Thread Alan Lord (News)

On 12/08/11 15:53, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:


Output of lsusb: Bus 006 Device 003: ID 046d:08af Logitech, Inc.
QuickCam Easy/Cool
Assuming 08af is the device identifier, that isn't there either...



Don't know if it helps but the first thing Google threw up was:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/046d%3A08af%20Logitech,%20Inc.%20QuickCam%20Easy/Cool

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again

2011-08-12 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 12/08/2011 16:04, Alan Lord (News) wrote:

On 12/08/11 15:53, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:


Output of lsusb: Bus 006 Device 003: ID 046d:08af Logitech, Inc.
QuickCam Easy/Cool
Assuming 08af is the device identifier, that isn't there either...



Don't know if it helps but the first thing Google threw up was:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/046d%3A08af%20Logitech,%20Inc.%20QuickCam%20Easy/Cool 





Thanks for that - went out straight away after the last post so had no 
opportunity to Google!
That looks tricky in the sense that those commmands are to get it to 
work in Cheese - it already DOES work in Cheese without any tweaking, so 
I assume 11.04 has gqcam already loaded and running.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcams again

2011-08-12 Thread Tony Pursell
On 12 August 2011 16:04, Alan Lord (News) alansli...@gmail.com wrote:


 On 12/08/11 15:53, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:


 Output of lsusb: Bus 006 Device 003: ID 046d:08af Logitech, Inc.
 QuickCam Easy/Cool
 Assuming 08af is the device identifier, that isn't there either...


 Don't know if it helps but the first thing Google threw up was:

 https://help.ubuntu.com/**community/046d%3A08af%**
 20Logitech,%20Inc.%20QuickCam%**20Easy/Coolhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/046d%3A08af%20Logitech,%20Inc.%20QuickCam%20Easy/Cool

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This was the last webcam I tried to get going and failed.  That's not to say
that it won't work now (or maybe in 11.10) as I gather a lot of work has
been done since then.  It is listed here

http://www.quickcamteam.net/devices/non-uvc-webcams

as a non-UVC webcam that needs the gspca driver, which I think the wiki
article is about, but when I tried installing it I did not have much
success.

My advice remains: find a UVC compliant webcam.

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