Re: [ubuntu-uk] gLabels

2007-08-04 Thread norman
On Sat, 2007-08-04 at 15:47 +0100, Robert McWilliam wrote:
 On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:46:51 +0100
 norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well, that's the preamble and now for the real stuff. What I am
  looking for is some clever person who would be prepared to help a
  fellow Ubuntu user and put into plain language what I need to do to
  make and install a template for the insert, please.
 
 I've just had a play with glabels (thanks for pointing it out, I'd just
 been using oodraw or the gimp). The template designer looks fairly
 straight forward. You just need to enter all of the dimensions for the
 sheets you are going to be using. I can't find any details on the Avery
 product you mentioned, but I suspect with being a case insert you'll
 want different section for the front, back and spine. It looks like
 you'd need a template for each (though the front and back could
 probably use one template and just pick which of them it is when
 printing), or use a template for the whole area and do the placing
 within that yourself (which would be a pain since I can't find a way to
 put in guide lines). 
 
 If you've tried the template designer already, is there a specific part
 that you don't get?

I think I can get all the dimensions that are needed but I am not
exactly sure what to do with them. The insert is a rectangle 273X183 mm.
This is divided into two sections by a narrow rectangle, 14 mm wide, the
longitudinal dividing line of which coincides with the line which
divides the insert in half (short side to short side). Does that make
sense? The  template is all one piece as are the inserts I bought from
Avery.

Norman


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] gLabels

2007-08-04 Thread Robert McWilliam
On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 17:08:20 +0100
norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think I can get all the dimensions that are needed but I am not
 exactly sure what to do with them. The insert is a rectangle 273X183
 mm. This is divided into two sections by a narrow rectangle, 14 mm
 wide, the longitudinal dividing line of which coincides with the line
 which divides the insert in half (short side to short side). Does
 that make sense? The  template is all one piece as are the inserts I
 bought from Avery.


To get a template for a single rectangle to cover the entire insert
you'd set up a page with one 'label' 183x273mm with the appropriate x
and y position. I wouldn't recommend this approach as it makes position
things to go on the spine a pain.

A better approach would be to set up a template for the two big areas
(the front and back). This would have a 'label' size of 183x129.5mm
(129.5 = (273-14)/2), with the appropriate horizontal and vertical
offsets for the top left corner and a y pitch of 143.5mm (129.5 + 14).
Then make another template for the spine, with a 'label' size of
183x14mm and position dimensions to line it up with the 14mm
high rectangle. With this approach you would then make 3 label designs,
one for the front using the first template and printing on label 1 of
the template, one for the back printing on label 2 of the first
template and one for the spine using the second template. Each would
have to be printed separately, so making an insert with something on
each face would mean putting the insert through the printer 3 times.

I actually don't think glabels is terribly well suited to this layout,
I'd use oodraw with the margins set for the outline of the whole insert
and a couple of guide lines (click in one of the rulers and drag into
the document, releasing where you want the line - you can fine tune the
position by right clicking the line and selecting 'Edit Snap Line') to
mark the spine.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] gLabels

2007-08-04 Thread norman
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 To get a template for a single rectangle to cover the entire insert
 you'd set up a page with one 'label' 183x273mm with the appropriate x
 and y position. I wouldn't recommend this approach as it makes position
 things to go on the spine a pain.
 
 A better approach would be to set up a template for the two big areas
 (the front and back). This would have a 'label' size of 183x129.5mm
 (129.5 = (273-14)/2), with the appropriate horizontal and vertical
 offsets for the top left corner and a y pitch of 143.5mm (129.5 + 14).
 Then make another template for the spine, with a 'label' size of
 183x14mm and position dimensions to line it up with the 14mm
 high rectangle. With this approach you would then make 3 label designs,
 one for the front using the first template and printing on label 1 of
 the template, one for the back printing on label 2 of the first
 template and one for the spine using the second template. Each would
 have to be printed separately, so making an insert with something on
 each face would mean putting the insert through the printer 3 times.

You make it seem very complicated.
 
 I actually don't think glabels is terribly well suited to this layout,
 I'd use oodraw with the margins set for the outline of the whole insert
 and a couple of guide lines (click in one of the rulers and drag into
 the document, releasing where you want the line - you can fine tune the
 position by right clicking the line and selecting 'Edit Snap Line') to
 mark the spine.

Thanks for that suggestion, I will give it a whirl.

Norman


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] gLabels

2007-08-04 Thread Robert McWilliam
On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 19:42:04 +0100
norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You make it seem very complicated.

Sorry :)

It isn't all that complicated, it's just that you need to do the 3
sections of the insert separately if you go the glabel route. 

The oodraw route is definitely more straight forward for this example
though. 


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