Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Ubuntu Hour San Francisco & SF Bay Area [L]UG list(s)
Lyz, et. al., Lyz - thanks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours?action=diff&rev2=76&rev1=75 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours Looks much more clean and current now - and also well has the relevant info. how to properly kick off, list, etc. an Ubuntu Hour (at least for California) so it will show in the relevant places, etc. Much better. :-) I also, bit earlier, did major update to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UserGroupContacts/Groups#SF Okay, sure it breaks the "pretty" format, but links to generally much more current and useful information, and will in all likelihood at least generally link to fairly well maintained reasonably current and fairly complete information. From: "Michael Paoli" Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Ubuntu Hour San Francisco & SF Bay Area [L]UG list(s) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 20:33:10 -0800 Hmmm, I didn't even know there was a meetup.com page. Anyway, fewer (one?) authoritative source better than numerous (and potentially conflicting) non-authoritative sources ... especially when the non-authoritative also don't refer back to the authoritative, so most are quite unsure as to what is/isn't authoritative. Anyway, I might (eventually?) get around to pokin' at some bits of it. From: "Elizabeth K. Joseph" Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Ubuntu Hour San Francisco & SF Bay Area [L]UG list(s) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 16:05:12 -0800 On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 7:01 AM Michael Paoli wrote: It would seem probably most logical primary place would be: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours Our Meetup.com page was, until recently when Canonical ceased paying for it, what most accurately tracked events. We'll have to switch back to using the LoCo Team Portal until something better comes along, so I've gone ahead and updated this page to just link there for now and so it no longer lists all the individual events. Sidebar: This is a wiki, if anyone wishes to edit pages here they can apply to the editors Launchpad team at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wiki-editors and let me know if you have any trouble being accepted. And secondly: SF Bay Area [L]UG list(s) There's this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UserGroupContacts/Groups#SF Like much of the wiki for our team, this was an ambitious project early on for the team that simply wasn't maintained. I also don't have the bandwidth to tackle keeping it up to date, but it may be an interesting project for a newcomer to the team who wants to do some research into the active Linux groups that are still out there :) -- Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph || Lyz || pleia2 -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california/ http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours ... someplace that is or was on meetup.com ... https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2019-January/002929.html -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Ubuntu Hour San Francisco & SF Bay Area [L]UG list(s)
Hmmm, I didn't even know there was a meetup.com page. Anyway, fewer (one?) authoritative source better than numerous (and potentially conflicting) non-authoritative sources ... especially when the non-authoritative also don't refer back to the authoritative, so most are quite unsure as to what is/isn't authoritative. Anyway, I might (eventually?) get around to pokin' at some bits of it. From: "Elizabeth K. Joseph" Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Ubuntu Hour San Francisco & SF Bay Area [L]UG list(s) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 16:05:12 -0800 On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 7:01 AM Michael Paoli wrote: It would seem probably most logical primary place would be: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours Our Meetup.com page was, until recently when Canonical ceased paying for it, what most accurately tracked events. We'll have to switch back to using the LoCo Team Portal until something better comes along, so I've gone ahead and updated this page to just link there for now and so it no longer lists all the individual events. Sidebar: This is a wiki, if anyone wishes to edit pages here they can apply to the editors Launchpad team at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wiki-editors and let me know if you have any trouble being accepted. And secondly: SF Bay Area [L]UG list(s) There's this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UserGroupContacts/Groups#SF Like much of the wiki for our team, this was an ambitious project early on for the team that simply wasn't maintained. I also don't have the bandwidth to tackle keeping it up to date, but it may be an interesting project for a newcomer to the team who wants to do some research into the active Linux groups that are still out there :) -- Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph || Lyz || pleia2 -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california/ http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours ... someplace that is or was on meetup.com ... https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2019-January/002929.html -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Ubuntu Hour San Francisco & SF Bay Area [L]UG list(s)
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 7:01 AM Michael Paoli wrote: > It would seem probably most logical primary place would be: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours Our Meetup.com page was, until recently when Canonical ceased paying for it, what most accurately tracked events. We'll have to switch back to using the LoCo Team Portal until something better comes along, so I've gone ahead and updated this page to just link there for now and so it no longer lists all the individual events. Sidebar: This is a wiki, if anyone wishes to edit pages here they can apply to the editors Launchpad team at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wiki-editors and let me know if you have any trouble being accepted. > And secondly: > SF Bay Area [L]UG list(s) > There's this: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UserGroupContacts/Groups#SF Like much of the wiki for our team, this was an ambitious project early on for the team that simply wasn't maintained. I also don't have the bandwidth to tackle keeping it up to date, but it may be an interesting project for a newcomer to the team who wants to do some research into the active Linux groups that are still out there :) -- Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph || Lyz || pleia2 -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
[Ubuntu-US-CA] Ubuntu Hour San Francisco & SF Bay Area [L]UG list(s)
Ubuntu Hour San Francisco & SF Bay Area [L]UG list(s) First of all: Ubuntu Hour San Francisco Does someone want to do a (better) cleanup of the relevant web pages, etc.? Most notably: Many of the pages imply this meeting happens every month. Now, having date/time/location pre-arranged for it 'n all is good, but ... with those meetings - especially in more recent years - much more commonly not actually happening than happening, the relevant web page(s). It's also good (and as was commonly done) *when* the meetings actually happened, to properly enter it as a Ubuntu event - and notably as an Ubuntu Hour event, and as a ubuntu-us-ca LoCo event - so it then automagically shows in all the right places for things that process and show those calendar events and specific categories thereof (some folks 'n things specifically watch for / display such). Also helps, likewise, to have the location on such on correct continent, country, state, ... again so it's properly found where it ought be (and not, e.g., event lacking continent, or global). To the extent feasible (and notably not excluding the Ubuntu event calendaring thingy stuff), there really ought be *one* authoritative place that says whether the meeting is happening - or at least that one can quickly and easily check if it's actually been scheduled 'n such. Heck, maybe it could even be coded to benefit the whole Ubuntu-US-CA team (e.g. if it's scheduled as both a Ubuntu-US-CA LoCo event, and an Ubuntu Hour event, have a persistent web page that automagically shows it on there if it's upcoming within say, month to 2 month's time). Anyway, single authoritative source often works better, lest there be conflicting information from multiple sources and questions as to which is authoritative. And sites / web pages? There isn't a Ubuntu Hour San Francisco web page ... though there are page*s* with such on it, so checking generally involves looking thorough many sources to try and determine definitively what the situation currently is regarding upcoming meeting actually scheduled or not. It would seem probably most logical primary place would be: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours And ... it even supports anchor tags ..., e.g.: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours#line-20 But, alas, that is not only not user-friendly anchor, but also not persistent for the relevant data (e.g. someone edits it, and the stuff at #line-20 is no longer the SF stuff). I mean, trying to determine definitively the current status, generally involves checking all of: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california/ http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours So, among other things, not having a persistent authoritative URL makes it much less user-friendly - and also less likely to get the information reasonably and clearly propagated. It also doesn't help that the Canonical/Ubuntu calendaring stuff doesn't (at least last I checked) have any way to schedule recurring events - which of course means for the event to be there, someone has to put it in there ... every ... single ... time. Someone want to code up something that could handle automatic recurring meetings being scheduled? Anyway, ideally might be something like a specific page, or persistent anchor on a specific page, and that could say something rough like ... when they occur, they're scheduled on the Nth Xday of the month, starting at and typically at (or near) ... and here are any upcoming ones that are scheduled . And secondly: SF Bay Area [L]UG list(s) There's this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UserGroupContacts/Groups#SF (Hey, at least it has a persistent anchor tag!) Which is, unfortunately woefully out-of-date (and incomplete), and in it's present form will probably almost always be. Rather than try to maintain it as such (and have yet another different incomplete out-of-date list of such on The Internet), perhaps instead link to some better maintained more complete lists/resources, e.g.: http://linuxmafia.com/bale/ http://www.lugod.org/calendar/ http://www.svlug.org/farm.php#other-local https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UserGroupContacts/Groups#SF https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=caj9iea2ol69b7n2uqdek4ocso%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/Los_Angeles https://goo.gl/b9WY5k Might not look quite as "pretty" for the formatting on the page ... but I'd vote for functionality and accuracy over "pretty". Anyway, Ubuntu ... not my baby. Maybe some 'o y'all might want to take a crack at addressing and cleaning those up? I might be able to do some too, but it's very low on the priorities on my todo list (5921 lines long and growing - yes, it will never all get done - at least not by me). -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubun
