[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
I can confirm it in KDE4.8.5, Ubuntu 12.04 and latest saucy-enablement-stack (xorg). I had to downgrade mesa to original precise version. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
** Changed in: kdebase-workspace Status: New = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
** Changed in: mesa (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
** Changed in: mesa (Ubuntu) Assignee: Robert Hooker (sarvatt) = (unassigned) ** Changed in: mesa (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress = Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
** Changed in: kde-workspace (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
** Changed in: mesa (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged ** Changed in: mesa (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
4.9.3 from the kubuntu-ppa seems to fix things for me too. Thanks everyone. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Yeah it's fixed in kwin 4.9.3, which was uploaded to raring recently. It'll be SRUed to quantal very soon now. The mesa task I targetted is for another issue with the screen not updating that'll be fixed in mesa 9.0.1 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
I confirm. Upgrading to KDE 4.9.3 fixed the slow FPS and the artifacts I was experiencing. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
@sarvatt: Does this mean there's an update now in Quantal? Because I (temporarily) went back to Precise to avoid this issue. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
@Sezov: Well, 4.9.3 packages should be right around the corner (I'd give it a week). It's supposed to be fixed in 4.9.3. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Heh, I spoke too soob, 4.9.3 packages are out on the kubuntu-ppa. I just installed it along with mesa9 and kwin is compositing with opengl at 60 fps with no artifacts. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Patch is available: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=69634 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Sorry, wrong tab. That was for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1065125 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
** Changed in: mesa (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Robert Hooker (sarvatt) ** Changed in: mesa (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Medium ** Changed in: mesa (Ubuntu) Milestone: None = precise-updates -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
** Changed in: mesa (Ubuntu) Milestone: precise-updates = quantal-updates -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
** Changed in: kde-workspace (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = High -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Looks like possible workaround, at least I've no artifacts now on my Lenovo T430S : 1. Add ppa https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers/ 2. apt-get upgrade 3. Removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf if exists :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
** Changed in: mesa Status: Confirmed = Won't Fix ** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #55856 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55856 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
The MSAA bug has been fixed in kwin: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-workspace/repository/revisions/6cf05555a5d0c834de3a0165a62916cf3b40 I just tested this patch directly by downloading the scene_opengl_glx.cpp, replaced the existing one in kde-workspace-4.9.2 deb source and compiling kwin. So far everything is now working perfectly again. If any one wants me to I can write a quick guide here on how to test yourself? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Launchpad has imported 32 comments from the remote bug at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=308385. If you reply to an imported comment from within Launchpad, your comment will be sent to the remote bug automatically. Read more about Launchpad's inter-bugtracker facilities at https://help.launchpad.net/InterBugTracking. On 2012-10-14T16:17:24+00:00 xzell wrote: Kwin with opengles and the latest mesa version (9.0) is very slow, few applications don't appears on desktop (like krunner), drop-donw menu are difficult to open, the window decorators are all a glitch, same for the resize. Reproducible: Always Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1061073/comments/27 On 2012-10-14T16:22:04+00:00 Thomas-luebking wrote: would you mind providing some relevant data like the output of qdbus org.kde.kwin /KWin supportInformation ;-) if just a mesa ungrade got you trouble, this is however likely a mesa or configuration issue (like you're suddenly running on llvmpipe or so) Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1061073/comments/28 On 2012-10-14T16:42:58+00:00 Mgraesslin wrote: (In reply to comment #1) (like you're suddenly running on llvmpipe or so) which is quite likely as the code in 4.9 IIRC would happily accept running on llvmpipe for GLES. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1061073/comments/29 On 2012-10-14T20:31:18+00:00 xzell wrote: (In reply to comment #1) would you mind providing some relevant data like the output of qdbus org.kde.kwin /KWin supportInformation ;-) if just a mesa ungrade got you trouble, this is however likely a mesa or configuration issue (like you're suddenly running on llvmpipe or so) Options === focusPolicy: 0 nextFocusPrefersMouse: false clickRaise: true autoRaise: false autoRaiseInterval: 0 delayFocusInterval: 0 shadeHover: false shadeHoverInterval: 250 tiling: false tilingLayout: 1 tilingRaisePolicy: 0 separateScreenFocus: false activeMouseScreen: false placement: 4 focusPolicyIsReasonable: true borderSnapZone: 10 windowSnapZone: 10 centerSnapZone: 0 snapOnlyWhenOverlapping: false showDesktopIsMinimizeAll: false rollOverDesktops: true focusStealingPreventionLevel: 1 legacyFullscreenSupport: false operationTitlebarDblClick: commandActiveTitlebar1: 0 commandActiveTitlebar2: 30 commandActiveTitlebar3: 2 commandInactiveTitlebar1: 4 commandInactiveTitlebar2: 30 commandInactiveTitlebar3: 2 commandWindow1: 7 commandWindow2: 8 commandWindow3: 8 commandWindowWheel: 31 commandAll1: 10 commandAll2: 3 commandAll3: 14 keyCmdAllModKey: 16777251 showGeometryTip: false electricBorders: true electricBorderDelay: 0 electricBorderCooldown: 350 electricBorderPushbackPixels: 1 electricBorderMaximize: true electricBorderTiling: true borderlessMaximizedWindows: false killPingTimeout: 5000 hideUtilityWindowsForInactive: true inactiveTabsSkipTaskbar: false autogroupSimilarWindows: false autogroupInForeground: true compositingMode: 1 useCompositing: true compositingInitialized: true hiddenPreviews: 1 unredirectFullscreen: true glSmoothScale: 2 glVSync: true xrenderSmoothScale: false maxFpsInterval: 17 refreshRate: 0 vBlankTime: 6144 glDirect: true glStrictBinding: true glStrictBindingFollowsDriver: true Compositing === Qt Graphics System: native Compositing is active Compositing Type: OpenGL ES 2.0 OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Sandybridge Mobile OpenGL version string: OpenGL ES 2.0 Mesa 9.0 Driver: Intel GPU class: SandyBridge OpenGL version: 2.0 Mesa version: 9.0 X server version: 1.13 Linux kernel version: 3.5.6 Direct rendering: yes Requires strict binding: no GLSL shaders: yes Texture NPOT support: yes OpenGL 2 Shaders are used Loaded Effects: --- kwin4_effect_zoom kwin4_effect_login kwin4_effect_slidingpopups kwin4_effect_minimizeanimation kwin4_effect_translucency kwin4_effect_screenshot kwin4_effect_slide kwin4_effect_slideback kwin4_effect_desktopgrid kwin4_effect_fade kwin4_effect_dialogparent kwin4_effect_highlightwindow kwin4_effect_taskbarthumbnail kwin4_effect_presentwindows kwin4_effect_blur kwin4_effect_logout kwin4_effect_dashboard kwin4_effect_outline kwin4_effect_startupfeedback Currently Active Effects: - kwin4_effect_blur Effect Settings: kwin4_effect_zoom: zoomFactor: 1.25 mousePointer: 0 mouseTracking: 0 enableFocusTracking: false followFocus: true focusDelay: 350 moveFactor: 20 targetZoom: 1 kwin4_effect_login: fadeToBlack: false kwin4_effect_slidingpopups: fadeInTime: 250 fadeOutTime: 250 kwin4_effect_minimizeanimation: kwin4_effect_translucency: decoration: 1
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
I'm waiting eagerly for this patch to be applied to the Kubuntu package and will test as soon as I can get a package to install. -Stefan Freyr. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Packages building in https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Scratch that, those packages don't work. Please wait for updated packages. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Heh... just in the nick of time, I was just about to start installing. Do you mean that I should wait for updated packages in the official repository or are you building another batch now and will you let us know? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
I'll be building another batch, but atleast not for another day or so. It's fairly late and we *might* have discovered other potential issues in the kde-workspace package. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
I was running 12.04 with the KDE 4.92 backports just fine. I decided to test out the latest Mesa using oibaf graphic drivers PPA which usually contains Mesa from master (9.1). After installing this I got the issue in this bug report. However, at the time I chalked it up to issues in the latest commits to master. I purged those drivers which made KWin work great again (Mesa 8.0.4) and decided to upgrade to 12.10 which brought with it Mesa 9.0 stable and the exact same issues I had with Mesa master. Looking over the bug report it seems part of the issue stems from MSAA being used with KWin due to a mistake by an algorithm which the GLES version of Kwin does not do. I decided to test this and installed kde- window-manager-gles. Ran kwin_gles --replace and performance was massively improved. However I still have the screen corruptions plus the other re-draw errors mentioned about KWIN GLES. Note I can still get some corruptions even with composite suspended as shown in the attached screen of krunner. This is on a Lenovo x230t with a Intel HD4000 gpu from the i7-3520M ** Attachment added: Krunner-corrupt-line.png https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1061073/+attachment/3418442/+files/Krunner-corrupt-line.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
In response to comment 68: @Thiago, I see a similar problem in Unity, but not as bad as KDE. In Unity, some windows do not render completely (i.e. controls missing or cropped). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
In my case mesa 9 is a mess only if using kwin_gles, if using kwin everything is in order -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
It seem to be an intel+mesa9 specific problem. And what about KDE? Can anyone confirm the rendering problems on Unity? And what about other distros? Who else is fielding mesa9 right now? It seems that both fedora and opensuse remain on 8.0.4. Heck, even Debian friggin' unstable is on 8.0.4.! Gentoo perhaps? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Okay, I got my machine working properly, but I had to go back to a 12.04-based distro (I used Netrunner). Here's how to get things working, without the trial and error that I went through. 1. Install the OS. 2. Disable Desktop effects, and install all patches. 3. Add the Bumblebee and x-swat PPAs. You have to do this because the latest NVidia drivers aren't in the 12.04 repos. 4. apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia. This adds the latest NVidia driver to your machine. Unfortunately, it also installs the problematic Mesa 9 libraries. We will fix this in the next step. It's also important that you have desktop effects turned off. If they're still on when you reboot, you'll get really bad system locks. Once this is installed, reboot. 5. Video is configured correctly, but will have all kinds of problems if you enable desktop effects. To get everything working properly, you need to downgrade to Mesa 8.0.4. The following command will do that: sudo apt-get install libglapi-mesa=8.0.4-0ubuntu0.1 libgl1-mesa- glx=8.0.4-0ubuntu0.1 ia32-libs=20090808ubuntu35 ia32-libs- multiarch:i386=20090808ubuntu35 libgl1-mesa-glx:i386=8.0.4-0ubuntu0.1 libglapi-mesa:i386=8.0.4-0ubuntu0.1 libglu1-mesa:i386=8.0.4-0ubuntu0.1 libgl1-mesa-dri=8.0.4-0ubuntu0.1 6. Reboot. When you log back in, hit Alt-Shift-F12 and test that desktop effects are working properly. If they are, you can enable them by default. 7. To prevent constant update notifications, I used ppa-purge to remove the x-swat PPA. 8. Add the kubuntu-backports PPA and install KDE 4.9.2, which is the same version of KDE that 12.10 has. You now have a working system! No package mess, and you're running basically the same software. Since this seems to be a KDE bug, I'm not all that hopeful for a fix here; I'm betting it'll take another KDE release. So for the time being, I'm staying on this set up until either this bug is marked as fixed or the one from KDE is marked as fixed and there's a new release available. I hope this helps somebody! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
@Rich: I'm not sure that's a KDE issue. It has been repported under Unity too. See post #43 above. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Launchpad has imported 14 comments from the remote bug at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55998. If you reply to an imported comment from within Launchpad, your comment will be sent to the remote bug automatically. Read more about Launchpad's inter-bugtracker facilities at https://help.launchpad.net/InterBugTracking. On 2012-10-15T13:15:35+00:00 J-iam-3 wrote: Hello! I'm using Intel HD3000, KDE 4.9.2, Mesa 9.0 and it's much slower than with mesa 8.0.4 in KWin with OpenGL backend and with VSync enabled, and you can see tearing. Not sure if this mesa or kwin bug. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1061073/comments/27 On 2012-10-15T18:19:38+00:00 Brian-m-hill wrote: I'm getting this as well. Arch Linux Intel HD Graphics 3000 KDE 4.9.2 MESA 9.0 The tearing seems to occur only in one area, about 1/5th of the way down the screen. It is as if the first 5th of the screen is updating slower. Downgrading Intel-DRI and libgl to 8.0.4 fixed the issue. Tried TearFree option in Xorg.conf and that gets rid of the tearing but makes the graphics unusably slow using KWin/OpenGL. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1061073/comments/29 On 2012-10-15T21:20:01+00:00 Benoit-gouhier wrote: I am getting this too, both with intel Sandy Bridge and radeon Xpress200m, with free drivers. They both use mesa 9.0 and kde 4.9.2, and the tearing happens in the top and bottom 1/5th parts of the screen. Going back to 8.0.4 solves the issue. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1061073/comments/30 On 2012-10-15T22:14:41+00:00 Dwyer-g wrote: Same problem with i7-3520M HD4000 graphics: Thinkpad X230 Archlinux x86_64 Intel HD4000 KDE 4.9.2 _OpenGL MESA 9.0 Kernels tried: 3.5.6-1-grsec 3.6.1-2-grsec And Arch default kernel 3.5.6-1-ARCH Same tearing about 1/5th of the way down the screen, Arrifacts on screen, and slow. At first I did just try downgrading xf86-video-intel, but still broken. Then I whent fullboar and downgraded all of it to fix it. [2012-10-14 16:25] upgraded libglapi (8.0.4-3 - 8.0.4-3) [2012-10-14 16:25] upgraded libgl (9.0-1 - 8.0.4-3) [2012-10-14 16:25] upgraded mesa (9.0-1 - 8.0.4-3) [2012-10-14 16:25] upgraded freeglut (2.8.0-2 - 2.8.0-1) [2012-10-14 16:25] upgraded ftgl (2.1.3rc5-4 - 2.1.3rc5-3) [2012-10-14 16:25] upgraded gegl (0.2.0-4 - 0.2.0-3) [2012-10-14 16:25] upgraded glew (1.8.0-2 - 1.8.0-1) [2012-10-14 16:25] upgraded gtkglext (1.2.0-8 - 1.2.0-7) [2012-10-14 16:25] upgraded jasper (1.900.1-8 - 1.900.1-7) [2012-10-14 16:25] upgraded intel-dri (9.0-1 - 8.0.4-3) [2012-10-14 16:25] upgraded libgles (9.0-1 - 8.0.4-3) [2012-10-14 16:25] upgraded libgbm (9.0-1 - 8.0.4-3) [2012-10-14 16:25] upgraded libegl (9.0-1 - 8.0.4-3) [2012-10-14 16:25] upgraded lib32-libglapi (9.0-1 - 8.0.4-4) [2012-10-14 16:25] upgraded lib32-libgl (9.0-1 - 8.0.4-4) [2012-10-14 16:25] upgraded lib32-intel-dri (9.0-1 - 8.0.4-4) [2012-10-14 16:25] upgraded xf86-input-evdev (2.7.3-2 - 2.7.3-1) [2012-10-14 16:25] upgraded xf86-input-synaptics (1.6.2-2 - 1.6.2-1) [2012-10-14 16:25] upgraded xf86-video-intel (2.20.9-2 - 2.20.9-1) [2012-10-14 16:25] upgraded xorg-server-common (1.13.0-2 - 1.12.4-1) [2012-10-14 16:25] upgraded xorg-server (1.13.0-2 - 1.12.4-1) Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1061073/comments/31 On 2012-10-15T22:22:06+00:00 Tureba wrote: I got similar specs: Intel SandyBridge HD 3000, KDE 4.9.2, Mesa 9.0, KWin on OpenGL with VSync, in Exherbo Linux. But I _do not_ see the problem. I suppose whatever is different between our systems must be the source of the problem. What else can we compare? Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1061073/comments/32 On 2012-10-15T22:47:30+00:00 Dwyer-g wrote: Hum, well I am using uxa. sna was crashing for me on the original install about a month or so ago. I'll try sna again.. Section Device Identifier Intel Graphics Driver intel #Option AccelMethod sna Option AccelMethod uxa EndSection Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1061073/comments/33 On 2012-10-16T02:34:14+00:00 ctarwater wrote: I'm experiencing the same issue here. Here's my specs: Up to date Arch Linux Asus U43F-BBA6 laptop Intel HD Graphics / 4300 KDE 4.9.2 Mesa 9.0 Intel SNA Changing to Xrender from OpenGL was the only way I could fix the issue. Reply at:
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Caution: Downgrading Mesa to 8.0.4 as described in the original bug report does not play well with Bumblebee (NVIDIA Optimus support). When I first downgraded, everything worked fine: no corruption, fast performance. But after installing Bumblebee, I lost desktop effects. I also tried Ubuntu (Unity) 12.10 and noticed problems there, too, although not as bad as KDE. Some windows didn't render completely. The only thing that made my system whole again was to revert to Kubuntu 12.04. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
@Rob: Aw snap! Guess what I was just about to do? Well, that's a serious no-go for me, but since I still want to give 12.10 a chance, I'll go on installing bumblebee anyway... Most likely that's the last thing I'll do on 12.10. I will report soon. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
@Rob: Ok, so I'm back from rebooting after bumblebee install and I report no corruption nor frame rate reduction. optirun glxspheres is working flawlessly on my NVidia 650M at 220 fps (jpg transport)... However... I did install it through aptitude, which pointed that the recommended virtualgl-libs-ia32 (i386) was incompatible with the available versions of libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 (only version 9.0-0ubuntu1 is available here). As such, aptitude (rightfully) ignored this recommendation. Muon, on the other hand, *will* try to install virtualgl-libs-ia32, which I suppose will break the downgrade to mesa 8.0.4. Now, what do I make of this? Well, for start, I fear my bumblebee install won't work with my wine games. I haven't tried it yet, but the lack of a 32 bits virtualgl lib is not looking promising. I will report on that soon. Then, again, aptitude won't install the 32bits version of virtualgl for the lack of a 32bits version of libgl1-mesa-glx. Well, there's one build of such version on the very same repository pointed by the OP, under i386 builds! My next steps are: - Find out if the lack of virtualgl-libs-ia32 is really problematic (i.e. wine gaming). - Find out if I can install virtualgl-libs-32 using the i386 builds of mesa 8.0.4 from the repository of the OP. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
@Rob: Ok, as I guessed, wine wouldn't even install without virtualgl- libs-ia32 (on a unrelated note: aren't all *-ia32 libs deprecated in favor of multiarch?). Fair enough, I downloaded the i386 versions of libgl1-mesa-dri, libgl1 -mesa-glx, libglapi-mesa and libglu1-mesa packages and installed them with dpkg -i. Unsurprisingly, libgl1-mesa-* remained unconfigured due to unsatisfied dependencies. I ten fired aptitude, who promptly suggested the removal of the 3 libs. The very next suggestion was the installation of the missing dependencies. I installed them and now I have a working wine+bublebee combo. My packages are a bit of a mess now, though... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Same issues here, corruption and slowness on kwin with an Intel 3rd gen gpu (HD4000?)l As suggested in the original post, I downgraded to mesa 8.0.4 and now kwin is again rendering at 60fps with no corruption. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
** Changed in: kdebase-workspace Status: Unknown = New ** Changed in: kdebase-workspace Importance: Unknown = High -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Possible newbie question: how did you downgrade to Mesa 8.0.4? I've been looking for a PPA, but haven't found one. Should I grab the ones from the Precise repository? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
** Also affects: kdebase-workspace via https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=308385 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #55998 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55998 ** Also affects: mesa via https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55998 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Also affects: kde-workspace (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mesa/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
** Changed in: mesa (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mesa/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: kde-workspace (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mesa/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Can you try a few of these downgrades and report back on if they are working or not? First, kde-workspace downgrade to 4.9.0, it was updated to 4.9.2 in the same timeframe as final mesa 9.0 and was a pretty large change from a glance. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/kde-workspace/4:4.9.0-0ubuntu4 If that doesn't work, upgrade it back to kde-workspace 4.9.2, then try downgrading to each of these snapshots of mesa 9.0 and see if they are any better so we can narrow down where the problem was introduced. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/mesa/9.0~git20121004.b2048c5e-0ubuntu1 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/mesa/9.0~git20120917.7cfd42ce-0ubuntu3 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/mesa/9.0~git20120903.e1673d20.is.git20120821.c1114c61-0ubuntu1 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mesa/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
I've gotten this problem to mostly go away (see my post here: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?60502-Screen-artifacts- Intel-video) by changing Qt Graphics System to Render in System Settings - Desktop Effects. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mesa/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
That doesn't solve the problem... it just bypasses it. Besides, using XRender disables most of the desktop effect goodies. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mesa/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Ok, so this doesn't seem to be that simple really. First of all, mostly for my own referencing in the future let me describe what I did exactly. To upgrade kde-workspace: 1) Downloaded all of the .deb files from the link above with the following command: wget -r -A.deb --no-directories https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/4:4.9.0-0ubuntu4/+build/3762859 2) Ran the following script to install only the packages that are already installed on my system: pl= ; for a in *.deb ; do p=$(dpkg-deb --info $a | sed -n 's/Package: \(\S*\)/\1/p') ; i=$(dpkg -s $p 2/dev/null |grep Status) ; pl=$pl $a ; done ; sudo dpkg -i $pl This resulted in some errors. The full output is here (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1285546/) but in short the errors were some missing dependencies that I could get around by installing the packages needed (a bit weird though why the dependency changed but that's a different conversation). But after installing the needed packages, I'm getting a version conflict for kde-workspace-data. It turns out that there is no 4.9.0 package for that for some reason and kde-workspace-bin cannot be installed because of that. Can anyone tell me where I could get my hands on kde-workspace- data_4.9.0-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mesa/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
I left OpenGL enabled, and only changed the Qt Graphics Subsystem. All my desktop goodies are in place, so far. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mesa/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Ahh.. so you mean you changed that from Native to Raster? (not Render) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mesa/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Just so you know, I'm not trying to take away from the real (and hard) work you're doing on this issue: it is a bug, plain and simple, and it needs to be fixed. I'm just offering a workaround for those of us who may have installed the beta on our main machines, since we were so close to the release. :-) My effects are still slow, but the glitchy windows aren't preventing me from getting work done anymore. Very much looking forward to the proper resolution of this issue, and I wish I knew more about KDE development so that I could be of help. Thanks for your efforts! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mesa/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Did I say Render (yes I did)? Yes, I meant Raster. That seems to have at least gotten rid of the screen corruption, though the effects are still slow. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mesa/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Ok so I managed to get through my dependency woes. I figured out that there are two packages that are architecture agnostic and those .deb files are only on the i386 files so I got the kde-workspace and kde- workspace-data .deb files from there and all is now good. So now I have kde-workspace 4.9.0 and mesa 9.0 installed and I can verify that the desktop effects are still very slow. I haven't seen the rendering artifacts (the white lines as in the screenshot attached to this bug) however but those appear sporadically so I can't say for sure that they're gone or whether they just haven't appeared for me. I will take a look at downgrading mesa step by step next. Will report back. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mesa/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
I installed Mesa 9.0 20120903 from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/mesa/9.0~git20120903.e1673d20.is.git20120821.c1114c61-0ubuntu1 and I experience the same slowness and artifacts on that. So I won't try the other git snapshots since the bug was clearly introduced before 03.09.2012. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mesa/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
There is a bug report on this in the KDE bug tracker as well: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=308385 ** Bug watch added: KDE Bug Tracking System #308385 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=308385 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mesa/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Maybe similar issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1065125 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mesa/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Why is this still incomplete? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
i see the same behavior (slowness, artifacts). moreover, when using kwin_gles instead of kwin the screen does not seem to be re-drawn correctly. for example, invoking the run command interface starts to show it but does not finish the animation. the result is that you type but don't see what you type. finally, turning off use opengl 2 shaders in the effects-config doesn't change anything either (neither for kwin_gles nor kwin). i hope this helps in some way to narrow down the issue. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
please install xdiagnose, and run 'apport-collect 1061073' ** Package changed: xorg (Ubuntu) = mesa (Ubuntu) ** Changed in: mesa (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Hi and thanks for the reply. I installed xdiagnose, python-apport and python-launchpadlib but when I run 'apport-collect 1061073' I answer a series of questions but at the end when I press the 'Send' button I get this error: stefan@atlas-stfs:~$ apport-collect 1061073 dpkg-query: no packages found matching mesa Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/apport/apport-kde, line 519, in module sys.exit(UserInterface.run_argv()) File /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/apport/ui.py, line 634, in run_argv return self.run_update_report() File /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/apport/ui.py, line 554, in run_update_report attachment_comment='apport information') File /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/apport/crashdb_impl/launchpad.py, line 358, in update report.write_mime(mime, skip_keys=skip_keys) File /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/problem_report.py, line 504, in write_mime attach_value = CompressedValue(v, k).gzipvalue File /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/problem_report.py, line 44, in __init__ self.set_value(value) File /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/problem_report.py, line 50, in set_value gzip.GzipFile(self.name, mode='wb', fileobj=out).write(value) File /usr/lib/python2.7/gzip.py, line 131, in __init__ self._write_gzip_header() File /usr/lib/python2.7/gzip.py, line 176, in _write_gzip_header self.fileobj.write(fname + '\000') TypeError: 'unicode' does not have the buffer interface ** Tags added: apport-collected ** Description changed: I have Kubuntu 12.10 set up on a ThinkPad T430. I'm experiencing both desktop corruption and slow performance of desktop effects. I've tried to downgrade mesa to 8.0.4 and that fixed the problem. Attached is a video comparing the two. The video does not show the desktop corruption I mention (vertical lines appearing) but I will attach a screenshot of that. I originally thought this was related to bug 1042211 but they told me to file another report since it seems to be different artifacts that I'm seeing. Of course I can't say for sure whether the slow performance and the artifacts are due to the same problem but the artifacts seem to appear when the desktop effects are activated. As you can see in the video, mesa 9.0 displays much jerkier effects and it seems that when the artifacts come this jerking becomes really bad just before the artifacts appear. Just now I did notice that the artifacts appeared at the mouse pointer when I clicked in a window. The artifacts followed the mouse pointer as I moved it but after clicking a few times they disappeared. WORKAROUND: As described in bug 1042211 I downloaded the 8.0.4 version of mesa from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/8.0.4-1ubuntu1. This fixed the problem for me. Since it took a little while for me to figure out how to get the .deb packages from that page, here is how for anyone who wants to try: 1) Go to the above page. 2) Under Builds select your architecture 3) This will bring you to a page with all the .deb files for your architecture. I only installed the libgl1-mesa-dri, libgl1-mesa-glx, libglapi-mesa and libglu1-mesa packages. Please let me know if you need more information. p.s. I had some problems choosing the package for this bug. It wouldn't let me put it on libgl1-mesa so I put it on libgl1-mesa-dri. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10 Package: xorg 1:7.7+1ubuntu4 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-16.25-generic 3.5.4 Uname: Linux 3.5.0-16-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu1 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Oct 3 15:40:20 2012 InstallationMedia: Kubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal - Alpha amd64 (20120905) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE= TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, no user) LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: xorg Symptom: display UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) + --- + ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu1 + Architecture: amd64 + CompizPlugins: No value set for `/apps/compiz-1/general/screen0/options/active_plugins' + CompositorRunning: kwin + DistUpgraded: Fresh install + DistroCodename: quantal + DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10 + DistroVariant: kubuntu + DkmsStatus: virtualbox, 4.1.18, 3.5.0-16-generic, x86_64: installed + ExtraDebuggingInterest: I just need to know a workaround + GraphicsCard: + Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller [8086:0166] (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) +Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:21f3] + InstallationMedia: Kubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal - Alpha amd64 (20120905) + MachineType: LENOVO 2347W2U + Package: mesa (not installed) + ProcEnviron: + LANGUAGE= + TERM=xterm + PATH=(custom, no user) + LANG=en_US.UTF-8 + SHELL=/bin/bash + ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-16-generic root=UUID=c8916e6c-a99f-43f1-9d8c-c1daf21fedac ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7 + ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
Ok, I solved it by following the instructions in bug 1030483. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to mesa in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
-- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
The video doesn't seem to have been uploaded. Here it is. ** Attachment added: video comparing desktop effects with mesa 8.0.4 and mesa 9.0 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1061073/+attachment/3368786/+files/mesa_problem.ogv -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1061073] Re: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9
and here is a screenshot of the artifacts I'm seeing every once in a while. ** Attachment added: desktop artifacts https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1061073/+attachment/3368787/+files/desktop-corruption.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 Title: Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1061073/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
