[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
This has finally been fixed in Ubuntu 17.10 by not installing xterm by default. Anyone that wants to use xterm is welcome to install it and it will have its proper icon and .desktop launcher. ** Changed in: xterm (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Fix Released ** Changed in: ayatana-design Status: New => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
The bug is already marked as fixed, no need to add abusive comments. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
Thomas Dickey, this bug is fixed for Ubuntu GNOME Remix Xubuntu, not the flagship Ubuntu image. Thomas Hotz, I *do* want the Design Team's opinion on this bug. ** Changed in: ayatana-design Status: Invalid = New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
The decision was already made. However, the current icons for xterm haven't been discussed. The only comments have been made based on the pre-SVG icons (and Bicha's comments about the website got half of the information incorrect - at a minimum he should have based his comments on the source and timeline). See http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.icon.html If there's any constructive comments to be made, that also might be interesting. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
For example, this is what I see with xterm on Ubuntu - the old icon and new. ** Attachment added: screenshot of xterm on Ubuntu 12.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xterm/+bug/129041/+attachment/3375179/+files/xterm-283-ubuntu-12.04.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
Three terminal icons is too much, Ubuntu ships with only one tool per task. Also, the new xterm icon still ugly, I know that it is subjective but asking about this icons to 9 people around me (3 developers) I got this: * 9 in 9 think that it is *very* ugly (both, new and old) * 8 in 9 ask why three icons for same task * 4 in 9 ask why have any terminal by default :-) * 9 in 9 prefer the look of Terminal (gnome-terminal) because it looks like ubuntu and not (win95|old) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
There are 3 icons for Libreoffice on that screenshot. Each application (xterm, xterm-dev) gets exactly one icon. You won't be installed xterm-dev; the screenshot merely shows things side-by-side. The last comment is odd, since the color scheme of the Terminal icon isn't like the other icons. (I don't see any hint that you're associated with the design team). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
By the way - asking about this, etc., only indicates that you can find people to agree with you. That inevitably introduces a bias into the results, and makes it not useful for this discussion. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
So, 9 in 9 people agree with me plus some people here plus lots of people that I meet and also have same opnion before I ask anything but we still need to make this ugly icons available because your opnion is more important. Thomas, don't take me as bad but looks like nothing will convince you. If the argument that icon is ugly is not enought for you please see that ubuntu shows just one application per task and gnome-terminal is the current option. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
hi - I should not have to explain constructive to you, since you presumably have agreed to the Ubuntu guidelines. However, I've found a poor correlation between the guidelines and practice. Constructive means that you (a) focus on the actual issues, and (b) make suggestions for improvement. It differs from subjective comments. A knowledgeable designer won't make subjective comments, but will point to specific features which can be modified. The issue which opened this bug has been addressed. Based on Bicha's comment above, he wants some (unspecified) review by the design team. If they have constructive comments, I'll note those of course. However, I'll also (of course) weight the less constructive comments according to the inconsistencies which are easy to comment on but would be a distraction. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
Thank you Jeremy let the design team look at the bug. My comment wasn't ment to hurt somebody but the original reporter says (1) we only need one terminal and (2) the icons are quite old and it would be nice to have icons that fit better in the Unity shell. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
This bug was fixed in the package ubuntu-gnome-default-settings - 12.10.3 --- ubuntu-gnome-default-settings (12.10.3) quantal; urgency=low [ Tim Lunn ] * Add ubuntu logo to gdm greeter screen. [ Everaldo Canuto ] * Fix missing password prompt for encrypted partitions (LP: #1060123) * Hide xterm, uxterm, and imagemagick from applications overview (LP: #129041) -- Tim Lunn t...@feathertop.org Thu, 04 Oct 2012 07:44:18 +1000 ** Changed in: ubuntu-gnome-default-settings (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/ubuntu-gnome-default-settings -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
** Changed in: xterm (Debian) Status: Unknown = New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
I think the current icons in xterm and xdiagnose don't fit into the system beacause the other apps have really cool icons. ** Changed in: ayatana-design Status: New = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
** Also affects: ubuntu-gnome-default-settings (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: ubuntu-gnome-default-settings (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: ubuntu-gnome-default-settings (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: ubuntu-gnome-default-settings (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
Yes, Xubuntu already hide these #836311 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
Also, on package gnome-menus we have gnome-menus-blacklist utility that hide these icons listed on /etc/gnome/menus.blacklist. Unfortunatelly it is commented on post installation script. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
Jeremy Bicha's comment #19 here (and elsewhere) are a personal attack. Focusing on the technical issues would be more suitable. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
Thomas, I don't understand why you think I'm making a personal attack. I understand that ugly and beautiful can be subjective but the icon does look dated. It uses an olive green square background without rounded corners. CRT monitors are not popular these days. The icon is also pixelated which is interesting because the icons at http ://invisible-island.net/xterm/ aren't. Ubuntu since the beginning has had the goal of shipping with only one app for a purpose, i.e. Firefox or Chromium but not both. Ubuntu users who prefer xterm to gnome-terminal are fairly rare and should be able to figure out Alt-F2. ** Description changed: The Ubuntu 11.10 desktop by default has three terminals in the Dash labeled respectively as: Terminal, XTerm, and UXTerm. This is rather confusing for users who are told to just run a terminal. XTerm and UXTerm share a rather old, outdated icon and very few users will prefer using them to using the standard, full-featured GNOME Terminal. XTerm apparently is used by Ubuntu's failsafe mode and so must be present by default. My Proposed fix: 1.Add NoDisplay=true to the end of these 2 files: sudoedit /usr/share/applications/debian-xterm.desktop sudoedit /usr/share/applications/debian-xterm.desktop 2. Run sudo update-desktop-database 3. Log out and log back in. 4. Type term into the Dash, xterm and uxterm should not show. - 5. Close the dash and type Alt+F2, now type xterm and uxterm. The app shows with its icon. When run, the icon will show in the launcher and the Alt-Tab switcher. + 5. Close the dash and type Alt+F2, now type xterm and uxterm. The app shows with its icon. When run, the icon will show in the launcher and the Alt-Tab switcher. This fixes the problem mentioned in comment #10. + + When the app is running, it's also possible to right-click on the app to + lock to launcher in Unity or add to favorites in GNOME Shell. If you're + using GNOME Classic, you can easily use Alacarte to unhide xterm. This should be a good compromise between most users who don't need the clutter of the extra terminals and the ones who actually do want to run xterm. Also xterm has been hidden by default for many releases now and I personally consider their presence now a UI regression, not an improvement. --Jeremy Bicha -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #645736 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=645736 ** Also affects: xterm (Debian) via http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=645736 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
Notwithstanding your comments, the information is easily available. Your repeated ugly is as noted subjective, and given the timeline (no, I don't believe in coincidence, particularly for repeated slurs by you) your new comments are apparently in reply to my updates to xterm patch #282. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
My source for the icons are less pixelated on the website comment was http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12210364postcount=3 which preceded your version 282 by 3 weeks. Thomas, I appreciate you maintaining xterm for the past 16 years, but I think you have a hard time understanding that xterm just isn't very popular today even among terminal users like I am. I'm definitely not the only one that doesn't appreciate the xterm icons showing up in the default menus. See the attached Debian bug or http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz/2012/06/30/xterm-on-ubuntu-12-04 -manages-to-party-like-its-1989/ for instance. The technical issue for this bug has nothing to do with how awesome xterm is, but how well integrated it is with the modern Ubuntu desktop (whether Unity, GNOME Shell, GNOME Classic, or XFCE). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
This really has nothing to do with xterm, except that the fix needs to be in the xterm package. Ubuntu is meant to be easy to understand, and it's really important that new users can explore all of the applications they are getting out of the box without running into a brick wall or feeling lost. That is getting difficult with the signal to noise ratio in the applications menu: scattered alongside the applications we want people to discover and enjoy we have every settings panel, a bunch of different admin tools, xdiagnose, and three terminal applications: gnome-terminal, xterm and uxterm. This isn't about xterm being bad: it's about xterm and ubuntu-desktop being an odd fit. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
Well, then - delete Bicha's remarks, and you'll be achieving that goal. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
mpt, I think the description should be a bit more clear now about what I want. As part of a clean desktop, we shouldn't have ugly icons that people don't really use. Those icons were hidden until 11.10. If I remember right, the .desktops weren't shipped before then. ** Also affects: ayatana-design Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: xterm (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
Xubuntu already hides these icons (in xubuntu-default-settings) and the Ubuntu GNOME Remix will likely do the same thing too. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
** Branch linked: lp:debian/xterm -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xterm/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
I know Opinion is confusing and all, but I hope we can agree that in one of the comments somebody proposed a solution that is now obsolete is nowhere near what it means. That said, it's not clear what the bug is here. The description refers to Ubuntu 7.10, which is long past its use-by date. If the bug still exists in 11.10 beta, please update the description with steps to reproduce the problem, and reopen the report. Thanks. ** Changed in: xterm (Ubuntu) Status: Opinion = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xterm/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
On Sun, 9 Oct 2011, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: I know Opinion is confusing and all, but I hope we can agree that in one of the comments somebody proposed a solution that is now obsolete is nowhere near what it means. That said, it's not clear what the bug is here. The description refers essentially, the bug is that someone decided to prevent xterm from installing a desktop file and/or icon. They're been part of the upstream source since mid-2007 (patch #226). awai -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xterm/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
** Description changed: - In the system menu there are Xterm and UXTerm icons by default on Gutsy. + In Ubuntu 11.10 desktop by default, there are three terminals in the + Dash labeled respectively as: Terminal, XTerm, and UXTerm. This is + rather confusing for users who are told to just run a terminal. XTerm + and UXTerm share a rather old, outdated icon and very few users will + prefer using them to using the standard, full-featured GNOME Terminal. - This is wrong because: - 1. There is already gnome-terminal - 2. They belong in the Accesories-menu - - Why offer 3 terminal programs in the gnome menu by default anyway? + XTerm apparently is used by Ubuntu's failsafe mode and so must be + present by default. + + My Proposed fix: + 1.Add NoDisplay=true to the end of these 2 files: + sudoedit /usr/share/applications/debian-xterm.desktop + sudoedit /usr/share/applications/debian-xterm.desktop + 2. Run sudo update-desktop-database + 3. Log out and log back in. + 4. Type term into the Dash, xterm and uxterm should not show. + 5. Close the dash and type Alt+F2, now type xterm and uxterm. The app shows with its icon. When run, the icon will show in the launcher and the Alt-Tab switcher. + + This should be a good compromise between most users who don't need the + clutter of the extra terminals and the ones who actually do want to run + xterm. + + --Jeremy Bicha ** Description changed: - In Ubuntu 11.10 desktop by default, there are three terminals in the - Dash labeled respectively as: Terminal, XTerm, and UXTerm. This is - rather confusing for users who are told to just run a terminal. XTerm - and UXTerm share a rather old, outdated icon and very few users will - prefer using them to using the standard, full-featured GNOME Terminal. + The Ubuntu 11.10 desktop by default has three terminals in the Dash + labeled respectively as: Terminal, XTerm, and UXTerm. This is rather + confusing for users who are told to just run a terminal. XTerm and + UXTerm share a rather old, outdated icon and very few users will prefer + using them to using the standard, full-featured GNOME Terminal. XTerm apparently is used by Ubuntu's failsafe mode and so must be present by default. My Proposed fix: 1.Add NoDisplay=true to the end of these 2 files: - sudoedit /usr/share/applications/debian-xterm.desktop - sudoedit /usr/share/applications/debian-xterm.desktop + sudoedit /usr/share/applications/debian-xterm.desktop + sudoedit /usr/share/applications/debian-xterm.desktop 2. Run sudo update-desktop-database 3. Log out and log back in. 4. Type term into the Dash, xterm and uxterm should not show. 5. Close the dash and type Alt+F2, now type xterm and uxterm. The app shows with its icon. When run, the icon will show in the launcher and the Alt-Tab switcher. This should be a good compromise between most users who don't need the clutter of the extra terminals and the ones who actually do want to run xterm. --Jeremy Bicha ** Description changed: The Ubuntu 11.10 desktop by default has three terminals in the Dash labeled respectively as: Terminal, XTerm, and UXTerm. This is rather confusing for users who are told to just run a terminal. XTerm and UXTerm share a rather old, outdated icon and very few users will prefer using them to using the standard, full-featured GNOME Terminal. XTerm apparently is used by Ubuntu's failsafe mode and so must be present by default. My Proposed fix: 1.Add NoDisplay=true to the end of these 2 files: sudoedit /usr/share/applications/debian-xterm.desktop sudoedit /usr/share/applications/debian-xterm.desktop 2. Run sudo update-desktop-database 3. Log out and log back in. 4. Type term into the Dash, xterm and uxterm should not show. 5. Close the dash and type Alt+F2, now type xterm and uxterm. The app shows with its icon. When run, the icon will show in the launcher and the Alt-Tab switcher. This should be a good compromise between most users who don't need the clutter of the extra terminals and the ones who actually do want to run - xterm. + xterm. Also xterm has been hidden by default for many releases now and I + personally consider their presence now a UI regression, not an + improvement. --Jeremy Bicha -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xterm/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
As I said, the default install doesn't have a menu, and in oneiric there is no classic gnome included in default either. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xterm/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
By menu items, I meant launcher items in the dash. NoDisplay would hide them from the dash. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xterm/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
Since the default session is unity, which doesn't have a menu as classic GNOME, I'm inclined to close this bug as 'opinion' rather than implement 'NoDisplay', as the package in oneiric does install .desktop files by default. The rationale is that apart from Ubuntu/Xubuntu, the other variants don't seem to include xterm by default, so if people install it they most likely want to see the app in the desktop menu as well.. ** Changed in: xterm (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Opinion -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xterm/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
I object to this being marked as Opinion. Who intentionally uses xterm? If it needs to be there as part of the fallback support, fine. But it is the ugliest 2 menu items in the default install. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xterm/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
Yes, please continue to ship the .desktop but set NoDisplay=True -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xterm/+bug/129041/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
Pleas return back xterm.desktop file. Now Unity, Gnome Shell, Gnome-do, all of them recognize programs by their associated .desktop file. Because of missing xterm .desktop file it is not possible to add xterm to unity's or gnome-shell's dash, also it is not possible to launch xterm trough launchers mentioned above. gnome-shell even does not group several xterm windows, because of missing .desktop file. As I understand all applications must have associated .desktop file to work properly, xterm is not an command line program, so it must have associated .desktop file. xterm can be removed from menus, etc., but it must have .desktop file, because new desktop environments heavily use them in various ways. More information: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=609363#c6 ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #609363 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=609363 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 129041] Re: xterm icon available by default
Is XTerm still installed by default? If yes, then the solution is to mark it as hidden - or to stop installing it by default. ** Changed in: xterm (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released = Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xterm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129041 Title: xterm icon available by default ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
