[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 878235] Re: System unusable after update
Apparently not: Start-Date: 2011-10-19 14:35:26 Upgrade: libkrb5-3:amd64 (1.8.3+dfsg-5ubuntu2.1, 1.8.3+dfsg-5ubuntu2.2), libk5crypto3:amd64 (1.8.3+dfsg-5ubuntu2.1, 1.8.3+dfsg-5ubuntu2.2), wine1.3:amd64 (1.3.29-0ubuntu1~ppa1~natty1, 1.3.30-0ubuntu1~ppa1~natty1), libimobiledevice2:amd64 (1.1.0-3, 1.1.0-3ubuntu1), xserver-xorg-core:amd64 (1.10.1-1ubuntu1.2, 1.10.1-1ubuntu1.3), xserver-common:amd64 (1.10.1-1ubuntu1.2, 1.10.1-1ubuntu1.3), wine1.3-dbg:amd64 (1.3.29-0ubuntu1~ppa1~natty1, 1.3.30-0ubuntu1~ppa1~natty1), wine1.3-dev:amd64 (1.3.29-0ubuntu1~ppa1~natty1, 1.3.30-0ubuntu1~ppa1~natty1), libkrb5-dev:amd64 (1.8.3+dfsg-5ubuntu2.1, 1.8.3+dfsg-5ubuntu2.2), libgssrpc4:amd64 (1.8.3+dfsg-5ubuntu2.1, 1.8.3+dfsg-5ubuntu2.2), xserver-xorg-video-intel:amd64 (2.14.0-4ubuntu7.1, 2.14.0-4ubuntu7.2), libkrb5support0:amd64 (1.8.3+dfsg-5ubuntu2.1, 1.8.3+dfsg-5ubuntu2.2), libdvdread4:amd64 (4.1.3-10ubuntu3, 4.1.3-10ubuntu3.1), libkadm5clnt-mit7:amd64 (1.8.3+dfsg-5ubuntu2.1, 1.8.3+dfsg-5ubuntu2.2), libkadm5srv-mit7:amd64 (1.8.3+dfsg-5ubuntu2.1, 1.8.3+dfsg-5ubuntu2.2), libkdb5-4:amd64 (1.8.3+dfsg-5ubuntu2.1, 1.8.3+dfsg-5ubuntu2.2), krb5-multidev:amd64 (1.8.3+dfsg-5ubuntu2.1, 1.8.3+dfsg-5ubuntu2.2), libgssapi-krb5-2:amd64 (1.8.3+dfsg-5ubuntu2.1, 1.8.3+dfsg-5ubuntu2.2), ttf-symbol-replacement-wine1.3:amd64 (1.3.29-0ubuntu1~ppa1~natty1, 1.3.30-0ubuntu1~ppa1~natty1) End-Date: 2011-10-19 14:36:40 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg-server in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/878235 Title: System unusable after update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/878235/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 878235] Re: System unusable after update
Try rolling back server-xorg-core and xserver-common - if this is the same issue that's currently plaguing lucid, then that should get you back up and running. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg-server in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/878235 Title: System unusable after update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/878235/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 878235] Re: System unusable after update
Use synaptic - select the package, and use the menu option "force version" to downgrade the packages I mentioned. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg-server in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/878235 Title: System unusable after update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/878235/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 878235] Re: System unusable after update
-- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg-server in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/878235 Title: System unusable after update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/878235/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 878235] Re: System unusable after update
@Rick What issue are you referring to specifically? Is there a bug reported for this? If there is, and the downgrade fixes the problem, then this bug can be marked as a duplicate of it. Otherwise, a bug describing the problem specifically should probably be reported, and this could be marked as a duplicate of this bug. @Ken Sharp Since this bug requires more information in order to be worked on by a developer, including the information that Rick has requested (whether or not downgrading xserver-xorg-core and xserver-common works around the problem), I am marking this bug Incomplete. When providing this information, please feel free to change this bug's status back to New. ** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg-server in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/878235 Title: System unusable after update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/878235/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 878235] Re: System unusable after update
I have downgraded xserver-xorg-core and xserver-common but the problem persists. I have also managed to downgrade libimobiledevice2 and libdvdread4 but all the kerberos stuff is blocked for downgrade by Bug 878263. The logs mean nothing to me. Isn't there anything in the Xorg logs? Whatever is the cause it has permanently broken my system! ** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg-server in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/878235 Title: System unusable after update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/878235/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 878235] Re: System unusable after update
"I have downgraded xserver-xorg-core and xserver-common but the problem persists." xserver-xorg-video-intel is the most likely package, of those that have been upgraded, to have caused this problem. Did you try downgrading that? "I have also managed to downgrade libimobiledevice2 and libdvdread4 but all the kerberos stuff is blocked for downgrade by Bug 878263." That is unlikely to pertain to the video problem that this bug is about. ** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg-server in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/878235 Title: System unusable after update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/878235/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 878235] Re: System unusable after update
I have purged xserver-xorg-video-intel as it is useless on my system. I know the packages *should* be unrelated, but downgrading the suspected packages didn't work either. ** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg-server in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/878235 Title: System unusable after update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/878235/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 878235] Re: System unusable after update
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 877905 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/877905 ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 877905 After upgrading Xserver video does not work properly -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg-server in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/878235 Title: System unusable after update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/878235/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 878235] Re: System unusable after update
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 877905 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/877905 According to description it seems fglrx is broken, output says it's installed but not in use. < DkmsStatus: fglrx, 8.881, 2.6.38-11-generic, x86_64: installed > < xorg:fglrx - ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver (Proprietary, Disabled, Not in use) > Try troubleshooting via recovery mode, in case purge fglrx to get back a working desktop. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg-server in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/878235 Title: System unusable after update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/878235/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 878235] Re: System unusable after update
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 877905 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/877905 Are we sure this is a duplicate of bug 877905? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg-server in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/878235 Title: System unusable after update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/878235/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 878235] Re: System unusable after update
Sorry, this wasn't a dupe. ** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 877905 [lucid] glx regression after upgrading xorg-server packages to versions in USN-1232-1 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg-server in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/878235 Title: System unusable after update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/878235/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 878235] Re: System unusable after update
Well I had an updated version of fglrx installed (not from the repos) which worked fine before this update. I tried to install from the repos but there were all kinds of errors, it also would not reinstall. I have finally managed to force uninstall the latest driver and reinstall the driver from the repos. I am now back in my system, working correctly. I will avoid the latest fglrx until I can be certain that something in Ubuntu won't break it during the next update. It therefore appears that something in xorg-server is incompatible with fglrx 8.881, in this version of Ubuntu at least. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg-server in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/878235 Title: System unusable after update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/878235/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 878235] Re: System unusable after update
Hey kennybobs, You filed this bug report against natty, but I see it's still open and doesn't appear to have much activity recently. So, now that oneiric is released and stable, this may be a good point for you to upgrade and re-test if this issue is still present there. If it's solved in the new release and you think it's worth backporting the fix, please indicate that. Or if having the fix in the new release is good enough, feel free to close out the bug (or let us know and we'll close it.) If it's not solved, leave the bug report open. I can't promise we'll get to it (we get way more bugs filed than we can usually get to), but your testing and feedback can help out if and when we do. ** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg-server in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/878235 Title: System unusable after update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/878235/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 878235] Re: System unusable after update
Possibly the most ignorant comment I have ever seen added. ** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg-server in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/878235 Title: System unusable after update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/878235/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 878235] Re: System unusable after update
@Ken Sharp Annotating bug status changes with insults instead of explanations is not constructive; plus, the message from Bryce Harrington was likely automated (i.e., posted by a bot acting on his behalf). This is necessary because of the high volume of bug reports, many of which are duplicates or which document conditions that are ultimately revealed not really to be bugs (or to be bugs, but in different software from the software against which they are reported). One of the reasons not explaining your status changes is bad is because others might think they are incorrect and revert them...which is what I am doing right now. When a bug appears after an update, it is usually caused by changes to the software, which would also have made it into the subsequent release. If the bug is not in the subsequent release, then additional changes have likely eliminated it, and then those changes can be used as a basis for fixing it in the earlier release (i.e., the changes in the later release can be *backported* to the earlier release). If the bug *is* in the subsequent release, then efforts to fix it must focus on multiple releases, including (probably) the development release, so as to avoid future releases shipping with the bug. You are the only person who has indicated that you are affected by this bug. Therefore, any troubleshooting or testing has to be done by you. If you are unable or unwilling to try Oneiric, that's OK, but it does mean that unless someone else comes along who is affected by the bug, that the bug cannot very efficiently be worked on (if it can be worked on at all). So if you're unable to do the necessary testing, then you can simply leave this bug's status as Incomplete. After a while it will expire (or be manually marked Invalid), but you can hope that someone else who experiences it will come along and be able to provide the information that you are unable or unwilling to provide. Sometimes that happens. Rather than upgrading to Oneiric (which very well might solve your problem!), you might consider testing Oneiric from a live CD. This might or might not provide the necessary information, but if you test from a live CD and report your results and more information *is* required, then a developer can always post again asking for additional information. Therefore, if you test Oneiric from a live CD and report the results here, please feel free to change the bug's status back from Incomplete to New. If you are looking for *help* with this problem specific to your situation, then you should post a question about the problem. Working with triagers and developers in this bug is still probably the most effective way for you to get the problem solved, but if you are unable or unwilling to perform the steps indicated by Bryce Harrington (or his bot) and also unable or unwilling to test Oneiric from a live CD on the affected machine, then you may still be able to receive meaningful assistance in a question. (See https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu.) In contrast, work done in bugs has the goal of fixing the problem for everybody who might experience it (by figuring out what has to be changed in the software, and then changing it), not specifically of fixing it for you. ** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg-server in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/878235 Title: System unusable after update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/878235/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 878235] Re: System unusable after update
We're closing this bug since it is has been some time with no response from the original reporter. However, if the issue still exists please feel free to reopen with the requested information. Also, if you could, please test against the latest development version of Ubuntu, since this confirms the bug is one we may be able to pass upstream for help. ** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => Expired -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg-server in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/878235 Title: System unusable after update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/878235/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
