ugnet_: weeping heart: Message to my dear youth in Acholi
A weeping heart: Message to my dear youth in Acholi Internal displaced people flee LRA rebel attacks SIR After visiting Gulu district recently, my heart weeps for what I saw. Acholi is not what I used to know. I was born and lived in Gulu. When we were young, you had the same standards of living, whether you had grass-thatched houses, iron-roof houses or in the town. I speak as someone who knows the district well. My first posting after I finished my education in the UK in 1966 was as a district health visitor. I travelled in every corner of (the then) Acholi district. I would drive from Gulu to Patongo (now Pader district) as a young girl, with no companion. I had no fear. I would travel from Gulu to Kitgum and to Agoro near the Sudan border and return to Kitgum alone at night. Another way was from Gulu to Atiak, 42 miles northwest of Gulu. Just once in my two years in the district did I encounter any problem. Two leopards were spotted in an area and the warning was sounded by elders and opinion leaders. Workers in the area told me not to leave the area by myself. The people in Acholi were very courteous. Children would come to you and greet you politely. When you met people on the road, they would walk politely or greet you or just leave the way for you. There was much respect. This respect went with the age group of a person regardless of whether you were a relative or family friend. There was excellent mutual respect for everybody. Nutrition was not a problem in the district. People had the highest balanced meals in every home. There was even more food in the villages. There was beans, peas, meat, game meat, simsim, groundnuts, green vegetables and fruits in plenty: oywelo, kano (jambula), guavas, oceyo, tugu and many others. In every home, which I visited as a health visitor, although we were encouraging nutrition, there was reasonably well-balanced meals. Talking to families, people were eating well; at least two good meals a day. As regards culture, the youth had their own activities in every village: lamokowang, larakaraka dances. All the traditional d! ances la rakaraka, apiti, bwola, dingi dingi were also taught in schools. Even cooking and cleaning houses were taught in homes and in schools. Mothers had time to teach their children how to cook food and take care of the home from a very young age. From the age of six, one knew how to sweep the house and wash dishes. Rubbish was disposed of properly. Grass-thatched houses were smeared with black soils and cow-dung. Those with cemented houses washed their floors clean. Tidiness was considered part of your living, grooming and general look. You did not have to buy a toothbrush to brush your teeth. You used the sticks to brush the teeth. Now, when you see the changes, it just makes you wonder. The children in the streets of Gulu today are a sad sight. They are malnourished, underweight, dirty and uncared-for. You can see that there is no guidance toward their moral behaviour. It is with disappointment that at this point of our life we see this happening. People in Acholi did not like living in town; they only came to town to do business and went to the market once a week. Life was not town life. Today, people have converged in towns and trading centres. It is my wish that we restore the confidence, the activities, the culture and the well-being of the Acholi. Maliam Lakareber, UK Published on: Friday, 17th January, 2003 Gook We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the vitriolic words and actions of bad people but also for the appalling silence of good people". M.L.King The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE*.
Re: ugnet_: weeping heart: Message to my dear youth in Acholi
Gook, Mariam can do something about the situation. If she feels for her people, let her leave the comfort of UK and go back to Gulu and help in the rebuilding effort of both physical and moral structures of the people. Someone who graduated in 1966 surely should know what to do or else she stop her so called weeping. No one is going to rebuild those structures and she emulate people like Dr. Lokoya who died serving their people. LM --- gook makanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HR htmldiv style='background-color:'DIV/DIV DIV/DIV TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width=480 border=0 TBODY TR TD class=headline1A weeping heart: Message to my dear youth in Acholi/TD/TR TR TD TABLE width=30% align=left TBODY TR TDIMG class=newsPic src=http://www.newvision.co.ug/news_photos/1042730450Refugees-flee-LRA2.jpg; align=left border=1/TD/TR TR TD P class=captionLeftInternal displaced people flee LRA rebel attacks/P/TD/TR/TBODY/TABLE PSIR After visiting Gulu district recently, my heart weeps for what I saw. Acholi is not what I used to know. BRBRI was born and lived in Gulu. When we were young, you had the same standards of living, whether you had grass-thatched houses, iron-roof houses or in the town. BRBRI speak as someone who knows the district well. My first posting after I finished my education in the UK in 1966 was as a district health visitor. I travelled in every corner of (the then) Acholi district. I would drive from Gulu to Patongo (now Pader district) as a young girl, with no companion. I had no fear. I would travel from Gulu to Kitgum and to Agoro near the Sudan border and return to Kitgum alone at night. Another way was from Gulu to Atiak, 42 miles northwest of Gulu. BRBRJust once in my two years in the district did I encounter any problem. Two leopards were spotted in an area and the warning was sounded by elders and opinion leaders. Workers in the area told me not to leave ! the area by myself. BRBRThe people in Acholi were very courteous. Children would come to you and greet you politely. When you met people on the road, they would walk politely or greet you or just leave the way for you. There was much respect. This respect went with the age group of a person regardless of whether you were a relative or family friend. There was excellent mutual respect for everybody. Nutrition was not a problem in the district. People had the highest balanced meals in every home. There was even more food in the villages. There was beans, peas, meat, game meat, simsim, groundnuts, green vegetables and fruits in plenty: oywelo, kano (jambula), guavas, oceyo, tugu and many others. In every home, which I visited as a health visitor, although we were encouraging nutrition, there was reasonably well-balanced meals. Talking to families, people were eating well; at least two good meals a day. BRBRAs regards culture, the youth had their own activities in every! village: lamokowang, larakaraka dances. All the traditional d! ances la rakaraka, apiti, bwola, dingi dingi were also taught in schools. Even cooking and cleaning houses were taught in homes and in schools. Mothers had time to teach their children how to cook food and take care of the home from a very young age. From the age of six, one knew how to sweep the house and wash dishes. Rubbish was disposed of properly. Grass-thatched houses were smeared with black soils and cow-dung. Those with cemented houses washed their floors clean. BRBRTidiness was considered part of your living, grooming and general look. You did not have to buy a toothbrush to brush your teeth. You used the sticks to brush the teeth. BRBRNow, when you see the changes, it just makes you wonder. The children in the streets of Gulu today are a sad sight. They are malnourished, underweight, dirty and uncared-for. You can see that there is no guidance toward their moral behaviour. BRBRIt is with disappointment that at this point of our life we see this happening. People! in Acholi did not like living in town; they only came to town to do business and went to the market once a week. Life was not town life. Today, people have converged in towns and trading centres. BRBRIt is my wish that we restore the confidence, the activities, the culture and the well-being of the Acholi. BRBRMaliam Lakareber, UK/P PPublished on: BFriday, 17th January, 2003/B/P/TD/TR/TBODY/TABLEBRBRBR DIV/DIV DIVGook /DIV DIV/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial size=2nbsp;We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the vitriolic words and actions of bad people but also for the appalling silence of good people. M.L.King/FONTBR/DIV DIV/DIV DIV/DIV/divbr clear=allhrThe new MSN 8: smart spam protection and a href=http://g.msn.com/8HMUEN/2019;2 months FREE*. /a /html __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: ugnet_: Museveni salutes Acholi-Monitor-14/01/2003
Mr. Matovu, If dictator Museveni shares your views how does he hope to convince Kony's local support by March 2003?? Mr. Matovu stop dreaming. Your bafoon has failed. 17 years. I took Uganda Army only tree years to flush criminal Museveni and his cahoots from Luwero. But your intelligent Museveni has not moved the war in the north an inch. Bwambuga. J Oracha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matovu What do you mean Kony will be finished if he had no local support? Are you aware that Museveni has coralled all the Acholi into concentration camps? So what is this question of if he did not not have local support? Oracha - Original Message - From: Lutimba Matovu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:45 AM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni salutes Acholi-Monitor-14/01/2003 Ssemakula, I think you the one who is a dense pupil. Museveni has for years called for peace in Northern Uganda but the perpetrators of the crimes and financiers of the war have refused to stop the war. War was in Teso and West Nile but the people in those areas saw sense and gave up and there is peace in those areas now. Is this so difficult for you to grasp? Now Kony after many years of killings and abductions is trying to seize the public relations initiative by calling Radio stations and MP's pretending he is not all that bad afterall. If the people of Northern Uganda want total peace, they should disown Kony and work for peace the way people in Lango and West Nile have done. Kony will be finished overnight if he had no local support. Even if Museveni left power today as you seem to be dreaming, Kony will still fight. Try to dig deep and know why Kony seems to be fighting. He is not fighting Museveni as an individual but he has his agenda which is shared by the local people of the areas he is fighting in. LM --- J Ssemakula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HR htmldiv style='background-color:'DIV PMu7 is like a dense pupil who keeps repeating primary seven for years without passing -- and all the time being disruptive in class. Thank God for term limits in academics!/P PNow, the heading of this article is misleading. If Museveni had even a microgram of intellectual integrity in him, he'd say (and admit): I have utterly failed to bring peace in Northern Uganda for all the 17 years that I have been in power./P PIt is disingeneous of him to blame the victim when he has fought tooth and nail to stay in power no matter what the cost (to us Ugandans). Can you imagine how far Uganda would be if this blithering baffoon of a dictator were to vacate power together with his goons and co-thieves?BRBRWho is supposed to be impressed because his incompetence has brought him to sleep in a tent? /P PHe has just made another promise he cannot hope to fulfill. So what else is new?/P/DIV DIV/DIV DIV/DIVOriginal Message Follows DIV/DIVFrom: Omar Kezimbira [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIV/DIVReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIV/DIVTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIV/DIVSubject: ugnet_: Museveni salutes Acholi-Monitor-14/01/2003 DIV/DIVDate: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 03:48:14 -0800 (PST) DIV/DIV DIV/DIVMuseveni salutes AcholiBy John Muto-Ono p'LajurPresident Yoweri Museveni has said it is a shame that the Acholi with their talent and potential have been forced to live in a wasteland by a bunch of hooligans. DIV/DIVAcholi have lots of talent and potential. I remember great poets like Okot p'Bitek and so many professors in the past. But it is a shame that a bunch of hooligans are making them live in wasteland. he said at a show staged by the London based singer Roselyn Otim at Patrice Lumumba Renaissance Square in Gulu Barracks recently. DIV/DIVOtim performed on New Year's eve at the newly renovated Pece Stadium in Gulu. She was due to leave for London when she was invited to perform for the president. DIV/DIVOtim thrilled the crowd with songs like Nyeka oleyo gang-nga, (My co-wife has taken over my husband) War pa Lokwiya, (Dr. Lokwiya's shoes), Relationship and Gang tye ka Too (Home is getting destroyed). DIV/DIVMuseveni vowed to bring peace to Acholiland. DIV/DIVThe criminality will end this dry season. We are sure to bring peace in Acholiland. The Movement is determined to bring total peace in the north, he said recently. DIV/DIVRoselyn Otim commended Museveni for pitching camp in Gulu, saying it was a sign of love and confidence building. DIV/DIV Your president sleeps in a tent because he loves you, she said. DIV/DIV DIV/DIV DIV/DIV DIV/DIVJanuary 14, 2003 00:31:47 DIV/DIV DIV/DIV DIV/DIV DIV/DIV/divbr clear=allhr a href=http://g.msn.com/8HMJEN/2015;get 2 months FREE*/a /html __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- He it is Who created for you all that is on earth...He is the All-knower of everything. Swaddaq Allahu
Re: ugnet_: Musinguzi's pull-out was cowardly move
Musinguzi's pull-out was cowardly move By Ssemujju Ibrahim Nganda I find the withdrawal of Reform Agendas James Musinguzi Garuga from the Kinkizi West parliamentary by-elections race cowardly, and a blow to Ugandas democratisation process. Musinguzi's lawyer Ngaruye Ruhindi announced, a day to the Jan. 14 nomination, that his client was pulling out. This was shortly after the High Court in Mbarara had dismissed Musinguzis application to postpone the nomination until the Electoral Commission investigated the presence of the army in the constituency. The lawyer said thus, Musinguzi has made it clear that he will not participate in an election that will put his constituents in more trouble and increase trauma. He says during the previous election, one of his supporters lost his manhood and another one an eye. This statement alone shows how cowardly Musinguzi as a politician is. How do you pull out of a political contest on mere suspicion that your competitor is likely to endanger your supporters? What sort of politician is Musinguzi who abandons food and chooses to starve simply because a wild child has threatened him? The statement that one of his supporters lost his manhood and another his eye is more troubling. Who told Musinguzi that contesting an election is an introduction ceremony where a girl introduces her fiancé to the parents? It is only on such occasions that one may not expect injuries. The Baganda say Ensi eguula mirambo which literally means attaining freedom may involve sacrifice. Musinguzi should go for priesthood. He would make a good pastor. The House of Bishops of the Church of Uganda recently postponed the consecration of Muhabura Diocese bishop-elect; Rev. Can. David Sebuhinja to save lives. They sensed the consecration would compound the chaos in the diocese. This is religion. Politics calls for boldness and bravery. If Musinguzi had lived during the colonial days he would certainly have been labeled a collaborator. And collaborators those days were traitors. I didnt know that Musinguzi was that submissive. Suppose thugs attacked his family and threaten to injure his wife and children. Would he abandon them or put up a fight and die for his family. Political struggles and the fight for freedom involve sacrifice. It may be in human life or property but you have to lose in order to gain. Freedom is never got on a silver platter. The Mau Mau in Kenya asserted during their uprising against colonial maladministration that, better war than peace in chains. Why didnt Musinguzi advise his friend Col. Kizza Besigye to withdraw from the 2001 presidential race when Kalangala Action Plan and other Movement forces were pouncing on their supporters? People lost their lives, others lost property but the struggle had to continue. Remember an incident in Kireka along Jinja Road where a soldier reversed his pick-up double-cabin and drove into a crowd of supporters and five people perished? Does Musinguzi want us to believe that the lives of the Kanungu people are more precious than those of other Ugandans who died in the struggle for Besigyes political reforms? One thing I have noticed about our opposition politicians; they always withdraw from a race as soon as defeat stares them in the face. They also bash courts of law once they lose a case but hail them once they emerge victorious. We all saw and heard what happened when Winnie Babihuga of Reform Agenda lost a case against her rival Winnie Masiko, a Movementist. It is such a thing that makes the oppositions struggle seem less genuine and make us believe that all politicians are devils. But most important, Musinguzi has forgotten that President Yoweri Musevenis political conspiracy has been exposed by the numerous political contests we have had. If the opposition had boycotted the 1996 and 2001 general election, we would never have known the true colours of some politicians. For example, Museveni would not deploy his Presidential Protection Unit (PPU) in Rukungiri. Also the PPU men would not have shot into a crowd of Besigye supporters and one person died. It would also have been difficult for us to know that Kalangala Action Plan headed by Maj. Roland Kakooza Mutale could cause havoc. Musinguzi should know that losing an eye or manhood only serves to strengthen the struggle against bad rule. If we continue engaging the powers, we would have so many Ugandans with no eyes and no manhood. One day with the presence of the media, these people would know their aggregate disgruntlement and their collective strengths. Once we get to this level, a revolution would be inevitable. What Musinguzi is doing is to block the revolution from taking place. By the way, Ugandans ought to study the politics of boycott and internalise it thoroughly. After the 1996 presidential election, Democratic Party (DP) faithful gathered at their President General Dr. Paul Kawanga Ssemogerere's Lubaga residence and wept. Museveni had trounced them with about
Re: ugnet_: Museveni salutes Acholi-Monitor-14/01/2003
Bwambuga, Even with Kony's rock solid support which even you guys know exists but you shamelessly deny, they will be defeated or they will come to their senses and realise that their war is mainly harming their people. Kony has no interest in Uganda as a nation. He is only fighting for Acholi to gain power and he said it himself recently that the Acholi will enjoy once he gains power. Even when he telephones or sends messages, he only address Acholi MP's Army officers. He is directly saying this war is an Acholi affair period. When I say the truth about these issues, bafoons like Mulindwa who have no incling of what is going on abuse me. We have intelliegence about Kony and how he operates and the local support he enjoys. 17 years or 50 years, Kony will not defeat the Movement government simply because he is not fighting a genuine war with any cause. The best thing for him to do is to end the suffering of his people by ending the war. There is nothing sweet than living in peace. If he doesn't end his madness, he will one day go the way Savimbi did. LM --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Matovu, If dictator Museveni shares your views how does he hope to convince Kony's local support by March 2003?? Mr. Matovu stop dreaming. Your bafoon has failed. 17 years. I took Uganda Army only tree years to flush criminal Museveni and his cahoots from Luwero. But your intelligent Museveni has not moved the war in the north an inch. Bwambuga. J Oracha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matovu What do you mean Kony will be finished if he had no local support? Are you aware that Museveni has coralled all the Acholi into concentration camps? So what is this question of if he did not not have local support? Oracha - Original Message - From: Lutimba Matovu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:45 AM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni salutes Acholi-Monitor-14/01/2003 Ssemakula, I think you the one who is a dense pupil. Museveni has for years called for peace in Northern Uganda but the perpetrators of the crimes and financiers of the war have refused to stop the war. War was in Teso and West Nile but the people in those areas saw sense and gave up and there is peace in those areas now. Is this so difficult for you to grasp? Now Kony after many years of killings and abductions is trying to seize the public relations initiative by calling Radio stations and MP's pretending he is not all that bad afterall. If the people of Northern Uganda want total peace, they should disown Kony and work for peace the way people in Lango and West Nile have done. Kony will be finished overnight if he had no local support. Even if Museveni left power today as you seem to be dreaming, Kony will still fight. Try to dig deep and know why Kony seems to be fighting. He is not fighting Museveni as an individual but he has his agenda which is shared by the local people of the areas he is fighting in. LM --- J Ssemakula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HR htmldiv style='background-color:'DIV PMu7 is like a dense pupil who keeps repeating primary seven for years without passing -- and all the time being disruptive in class. Thank God for term limits in academics!/P PNow, the heading of this article is misleading. If Museveni had even a microgram of intellectual integrity in him, he'd say (and admit): I have utterly failed to bring peace in Northern Uganda for all the 17 years that I have been in power./P PIt is disingeneous of him to blame the victim when he has fought tooth and nail to stay in power no matter what the cost (to us Ugandans). Can you imagine how far Uganda would be if this blithering baffoon of a dictator were to vacate power together with his goons and co-thieves?BRBRWho is supposed to be impressed because his incompetence has brought him to sleep in a tent? /P PHe has just made another promise he cannot hope to fulfill. So what else is new?/P/DIV DIV/DIV DIV/DIVOriginal Message Follows DIV/DIVFrom: Omar Kezimbira [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIV/DIVReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIV/DIVTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIV/DIVSubject: ugnet_: Museveni salutes Acholi-Monitor-14/01/2003 DIV/DIVDate: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 03:48:14 -0800 (PST) DIV/DIV DIV/DIVMuseveni salutes AcholiBy John Muto-Ono p'LajurPresident Yoweri Museveni has said it is a shame that the Acholi with their talent and potential have been forced to live in a wasteland by a bunch of hooligans. DIV/DIVAcholi have lots of talent and potential. I remember great poets like Okot p'Bitek and so many professors in the past. But it is a shame that a bunch of hooligans are making them live in wasteland. he said at a show staged by the London based singer Roselyn Otim at Patrice Lumumba Renaissance Square in Gulu Barracks recently.
ugnet_: NYTimes.com Article: Not Your Usual Vampires, but Scary Nonetheless
Not Your Usual Vampires, but Scary Nonetheless January 14, 2003 By RACHEL L. SWARNS The African country of Malawi is in the grip of a form of hysteria. People say vampires are attacking villages and crowds have attacked several suspects. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/14/international/africa/14VAMP.html?ex=1043567128ei=1en=910070b18b4d75a3 HOW TO ADVERTISE - For information on advertising in e-mail newsletters or other creative advertising opportunities with The New York Times on the Web, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit our online media kit at http://www.nytimes.com/adinfo For general information about NYTimes.com, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copyright 2002 The New York Times Company MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE*
Re: ugnet_: OMWAAMI MATOVU
Adam Dada are you in the league of revisionist intellectuals that are presently looting Uganda dry?.If not then there is no pomp in the language I used. Let's learn not to associate or to want to associate with others based on the palatability of what they tell us as long as that serves our parochial interests. It is apparent that whenence one says something that appears obtuse to many a "Baganda" the best way to handle it has been to deny that person's Kiganda heritage.I am beginning to wonder what would happen if Magulonyondo Ssabasajja Ronald Muwenda Mutebi 2 said something akin to what these ordinary souls like Mulindwa is saying.Will you follow the same precedence and disown him as being an Acholi for example?. Please do educate those of my type who are very confused about the psyche of your ilk. Thanks. Kipenji. == Adam Dada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You Kipenji man - there is no point in using pompous language, when you are off point. Mine was a simple interjection - why would "Mulindwa" want Matovu to apologise to something that isnt a novelity in Ugandan contemporay history. Plus, to my mind, Mulindwa has more to apologise for than Matovu about the utterances he has incessantly made about a whole people (Baganda) and their Kabaka. Silence doesnt mean that people dont note these things - "Mulindwa" has had no kind word for the Baganda, despite the fact that he appears to have been adopted by the Buganda Kingdom, judging from the name he likes to use - "Mulindwa". He probably doesnt even know his ancestral name. I dont think that "Mulindwa's" life in Buganda has been only negative, that land has literally brought him up - he even doesnt know his native tongue in northern Uganda. At least I ! am greatful to Buganda for all that they did for me when I was there. So brother Kipenji you didnt have to labour with your pompous language to put the point across.DadaFrom: Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: ugnet_: OMWAAMI MATOVUDate: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:44:12 + (GMT)To this date and in the twenty first century Uganda itis inconceivable that we have Ugandans who so chooseto preferentially analyse the political situationsUganda has been through.It takes a tremendous amount of efforts to train afool,but one needs even much more input in makingpeople who are obsessed with mis-and disinformation astheir modus operandi to get to the honest grips offacts about what is happening around them. First isthe preferred belief by many a quasi politicalanalysts like Paolo Wangoola to tell all and sundry! that UPC/Obote introduced militarism into the bodypolitics of Uganda without clearly outlining theevents preceeding what led to Lubiri being stormed byAmin in 1966.They do not want Ugandans who areinterested in knowing the factual events of the timeto know anything about Brigadier Shaban Opolot and hisrole in those precceding events for example.Thenpresently we have people like Adam Dada and hiscohorts of Matovu et al who are still charading thesong that UNLF were the only people involved in thetheatre of the so called Luwero triangle.They havepreferentially chosen not to see the similarities ofthe mayhem being orchestrated in other theatres of waras varied and diverse as Rwanda,the DRC,NorthernUganda,Angola(before the demise of Savimbi-the comradein crime of Mu7) where there is no UNLF/Obote butwhose only constant passenger is Mu7 and hisemissa! ries.This to me is the limit of intellectualimprobity!.We need to be very candid about ourobservations and analyses if ever we shall as Ugandanslearn to know who our actual enemies are.We should notcontinue to live like the citizens of the formerCommunist states who were constantly fed on mis-anddisinformation as a means by their governments toexplain away the problems that they were unable tosolve.Lets be frank and set up a truth and justiceCommission and I am pretty sure we shall clearly knowwho was and still is behind this wanton human rightsabuses that Ugandans have been subjected to and so arethe Rwandese,Angolans and the people of the DemocraticRepublic of Congo.By the way was it Obote who ordered soldiers to shootat the then Katikkiro Paulo Kavuma when un armedpeople were peacefully protesting about the suddenremoval of the Late Prof! essor Yusuf Kironde Lule (RIP)as the first post Iddi A! min pres ident of Uganda.Thanks.Kipenji.---Adam Dada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Mulindwa, Idont think YOU ARE the right person, neither do you have the moral authority of turning around and asking Matovu to apologise. You have hurled insults to Kabaka and Baganda and YOU HAVE NEVER APOLOGIZED for that. What Matovu said is infact what YOU AND YOUR OBOTE used to tell Baganda in Luweero
ugnet_: Some Baganda MPs fear fighting for Federo-Bukedde 17/01/2003
Katikkiro Joseph Ssemwogerere has entrusted Buganda MPs withthe challenge of firmly debatingissuesthat those who elected themdemand to be amended in the constitution. The challenge wasgiven yesterday in secret discussions atBulange which lasted more than six hours andwhich reflected on the views that Buganda plans to present to the Legal Committee of Lawyer Friedrick Ssempebwa on 28th Jan. 2003. Katikkiro presented five pointson which heimpressed uponthe MPs to fight for when the time comes for parliamentto debate proposals on constitutionalamendments. The five pointsinclude the Federo issue, the return of 9000sq miles of land to Buganda, Kampala to becounted as a part of Buganda, rescinding of the landlawthatgives squatters right ofoccupation orsettlement and thattraditional leaders be afforded official invitationsto allrecognisednational functions. After presentation of the said points by the Katikkiro, the leader of theparticipants who is also the Minister of incharge of Luwero Recovery, Mr. Tim Lwangawent on toemphasize that the standing policy states that all Buganda districts areconstitutionallyregarded asbeingunder one entity within the pillars of afederal system that Buganda is striving for. Once this was over, members of the press were kept out of proceedings that followed on the basis of thembeing described as confidential. The Member of Parliament for Rubaga South, Mr. John KenLukyamuzi later told journalists that he was not convinced by some of his fellow MPs from Buganda especially Ministers for their failure to attend the marathondiscussions as the task equally concerns them. To this effect, he pointed out Prime Minister, Apollo Nsibambi, the parliamentary speaker, Edward Ssekandiplus Ministers, Gerald Ssendaula, Ruth Nankabirwa, Syda Bumba, Bidandi Ssali, Edward Babu, Kidhu Makubuya and Kisamba Mugerwa. -- Bamemba ba palamenti Abaganda abamu bati-dde okulwanirira Federo Katikkiro nabamu ku babaka ba palamenti mu Bulange. Bya Robert Masengere KATIKKIRO Joseph Ssemwogerere asibiridde ababaka ba palamenti abava mu Buganda entanda bateese na buvumu kwebyo abantu abaabalonda bye bettanira bikyusibwe mu ssemateeka. Entanda yagibasibiridde mu Bulange eggulo mu kafubo akekyama akaakulungudde essaawa ezaasobye mu mukaaga nga bateesa ku birowoozo Buganda byeteekateeka okuwaayo mu kakiiko ka munnamateeka Friedrick Ssempebwa nga Jan 28 omwaka guno. Katikkiro yabanjulidde ensonga ttaano nabakuutira bazirwanirire ngessaawa eyokukyusa ssemateeka etuuse mu lukiiko lwabwe. Ensonga zino mwe muli eya Federo, emayiro zettaka 9000 okuddizibwa Buganda, Kampala okubalibwa ngekitundu kya Buganda, etteeka lyettaka eriwa omusenze obwannanyini ku ttaka likyusibwe wamu nabakulembeze abennono okuweebwa enkizo ku mikolo gyeggwanga emitongole. Katikkiro olwamaze okwanjulira ababaka ensonga zino, eyakulembeddemu banne ngera ye minisita avunanyizibwa ku nsonga zakanyigo ke Luweero Mw. Tim Lwanga nakikkaatiriza nti enkola egamba nti disitulikiti za Buganda zibalibwa ngezeegasse awamu mu konsitityusoni eggumiza omusingi ogwa Federo Buganda gwe yettanira. Bino olwawedde abaamawulire ne baggalirwa wabweru nti kuba okuteesa kwabadde kwa kyama. Omubaka wa Lubaga South John Ken Lukyamuzi oluvannyuma yategaezezza abaamawulire nti teyabadde mumativu nabamu ku babaka banne mu palamenti naddala baminisita okwesulubabba akafubo kano nti kuba omulamwa gubakwatako kyenkanyi. Yanokoddeyo Katikkiro Apollo Nsibambi, Sipiika Edward Ssekandi, ne baminisita Gerald Ssendaula, Ruth Nankabirwa, Syda Bumba, Bidandi Ssali, Edward Babu, Kidhu Makubuya ne Kisamba Mugerwa. Published on: Friday, 17th January, 2003 Email this article to a friend. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
Re: ugnet_: Museveni salutes Acholi-Monitor-14/01/2003
"17 years or 50 years, Kony will not defeat theMovement government simply because he is not fightinga genuine war with any cause. The best thing for himto do is to end the suffering of his people by endingthe war. There is nothing sweet than living in peace.If he doesn't end his madness, he will one day go theway Savimbi did."Lutimba Matovu LM: Just a simple question Sir. Is it maybe also possible that Mu7 can go the wayPresident Abyellimana(sp) of Rwandadid? (Note: I am not suggesting so; rather re-thinking your logic).Kony may or not "go the way Savimbi did". But, could Mu7, even remotely, go the way of the former Rwandan President? See Lutimba, this is the dilemma. I do not think Ugandans should fall for your kind of reasoning. I think genuine peaceful approach is all Ugandans should demand so peace is enjoyed by all. BTW: What causes of the war are you looking for? On January 26th 1986, Mu7 made it clear the world over that the NRA/M will "liquidate" and "exterminate" the Northerners. Lutimba Matovu, supposing a new Ugandan leader comes to power tomorrow and proclaims that he will, together with his party supporters, "liquidate" and "exterminate" the Baganda. Won't you, as a Muganda, pick up arms to defend not only your God given rights to life, but that of your Baganda kit and kins? And would that not be reason enough for a war in Buganda? Wake up from your sleep! Ocii Lutimba Matovu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bwambuga,Even with Kony's rock solid support which even youguys know exists but you shamelessly deny, they willbe defeated or they will come to their senses andrealise that their war is mainly harming their people.Kony has no interest in Uganda as a nation. He is onlyfighting for Acholi to gain power and he said ithimself recently that the Acholi will enjoy once hegains power.Even when he telephones or sends messages, he onlyaddress Acholi MP's Army officers. He is directlysaying this war is an Acholi affair period.When I say the truth about these issues, bafoons likeMulindwa who have no incling of what is going on abuseme. We have intelliegence about Kony and how heoperates and the local support he enjoys.17 years or 50 years, Kony will not defeat theMovement government simply because he is not ! fightinga genuine war with any cause. The best thing for himto do is to end the suffering of his people by endingthe war. There is nothing sweet than living in peace.If he doesn't end his madness, he will one day go theway Savimbi did.LM--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Matovu, If dictator Museveni shares your views how does he hope to convince Kony's local support by March 2003?? Mr. Matovu stop dreaming. Your bafoon has failed. 17 years. I took Uganda Army only tree years to flush criminal Museveni and his cahoots from Luwero. But your intelligent Museveni has not moved the war in the north an inch. Bwambuga."J Oracha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Matovu What do you mean "Kony will be finished if he had no local support?" Are you awa! re that Museveni has coralled all the Acholi into conc! entratio n camps? So what is this question of if he did not not have local support? Oracha - Original Message - From: Lutimba Matovu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:45 AM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni salutes Acholi-Monitor-14/01/2003Ssemakula, I think you the one who is a "dense" pupil. Museveni has for years called for peace in Northern Uganda but the perpetrators of the crimes and financiers of the war have refused to stop the war. War was in Teso and West Nile but the people in those areas saw sense and gave up and there is peace in those areas now. Is this! so difficult for you to grasp? Now Kony after many years of killings and abductions is trying to seize the public relations initiative by calling Radio stations and MP's pretending he is not all that bad afterall. If the people of Northern Uganda want total peace, they should disown Kony and work for peace the way people in Lango and West Nile have done. Kony will be finished overnight if he had no local support. Even if Museveni left power today as you seem to be dreaming, Kony will still fight. Try to dig deep and know why Kony seems to be fighting. He is not fighting Museveni as an individual but he has his agenda which&! gt; is shared by the local people of the areas he is fighting in. LM --- J Ssemakula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Mu7 is like a "dense" pupil who keeps repeating primary seven for years without passing -- and all the time being disruptive in class. Thank God for term limits in academics! Now, the heading of this article is misleading. If Museveni had even a microgram of intellectual integrity in him, he'd say (and admit): "I have utterly failed to bring peace in Northern Uganda for all the 17 years that I have been in power". It is disingeneous of him to blame the victim when he has fought tooth and nail to stay
ugnet_: [abujaNig] UK REJECTS LONE ACTION AGAINIST IRAQ
Anti-war activists went naked for their latest protest The UK would not join American unilateral military action against Iraq, according to International Development Secretary Clare Short. Ms Short said the UK had a duty to try to keep the world united over the Iraq crisis and ensure the danger of Saddam Hussein was only tackled through the United Nations. Other ministers have shied away from saying whether or not the UK would join America if it decided to act alone against Iraq. With US troop build-up continuing in the Gulf, Labour Chairman John Reid has denied there is widespread disquiet about the handling of the Iraq crisis. Two surveys in Sunday newspapers point to deep unease about the prospect of war among Labour activists. Despite cold weather, a group of 30 peace campaigners went naked in East Sussex for their latest protest against any military action. Short's concern The Conservatives say Tony Blair is wobbling and failing to make the case for the UK joining possible military action because of Labour splits. Tory leader Iain Duncan Smith said: That worries me because the British people are still waiting to see what the case is for British involvement. Mr Blair is reportedly to make a personal effort to win over Labour MPs sceptical of his stance over Iraq. The prime minister's spokesman said last week UN weapons inspectors needed time and space to do their work in Iraq in what was seen as a reassurances to critics. Clare Short: Must stick to UN route The sailing of the aircraft carrier Ark Royal for the Gulf has heightened speculation that the UK is preparing to help the US in military action against Iraq. Ms Short, seen as one of the cabinet ministers more sceptical about possible war, told ITV's Jonathan Dimbleby programme she was very, very worried about the Iraq crisis. The role of the UK in this historic and dangerous time ... is to try to keep the US with the UN process, back up the authority of the UN and not depart from the UN process, she said. Asked if that meant the UK would not join America if it acted alone against Iraq, she replied: That is the logic of the position. Ms Short also argued the US failure to do more to restart the Middle East peace process had bred distrust and anger in the region. Suez warning Earlier, senior Labour MP Clive Soley said there was a danger the UK could be a repeat of the Suez crisis, which caused the downfall of then Prime Minister Sir Anthony Eden. Mr Soley, ex-chairman of the Parliamentary Labour Party, told the Sunday Times: There is a danger of getting into a conflict without the support of the country or Parliament. Dr Reid told Sky News Labour opinions were similar to those of the wider public. There may be some on one extreme who want to go straight to military conflict, he said. US build-up in the Gulf is continuing There are others on the other extreme who don't want to use military means under any circumstances. But the broad thrust of the party, I think, recognises that Saddam Hussein is a major threat ... But they want to see that every possible means of diplomacy and pressure is used before the military option becomes necessary and to go through the UN route. On Monday, Mr Blair is expected to use his monthly televised news conference to explain again his stance on Iraq. On Wednesday, he will address a private meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party, something officials say he always does after the Christmas recess. 'Unnecessary rhetoric' Liberal Democrat leader Charles Kennedy said Mr Blair needed to be clearer about the circumstances in which the UK would go to war. Mr Kennedy argued there should be no unnecessary rhetoric from London or Washington while UN inspectors continued their work. The Independent on Sunday questioned 35 Labour Party officials from ministers' constituencies. Only two of them were in favour of British support for an attack on Iraq without UN backing. A Sunday Telegraph survey of 74 Labour Party constituency chairmen found 69% of them predicted war with Iraq would provoke resignations among local members. The newspaper reports Mr Blair has been warned by three cabinet ministers - Tessa Jowell, Hilary Armstrong and Helen Liddell - that he must sell his military strategy on Iraq or face a rebellion by MPs. **Keep Hope Alive!!!* Site of the Week:- http://www.iseehope.org Nigeria arise to rebuild Hope ++ Nigerians for Nigeria, rebuilding a Country where No man is oppressed. - --- Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **Keep Hope Alive!!!* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
