ugnet_: Muslims should be buried wherever they die
Why Idi Amin Should be Buried Where He dies (if he dies) I want to believe Idi Amin is a Muslim and the reasons that follow are purely non-political It is Sunnah and preferable to bury the body of a Muslim wherever they die unless the conditions do not allow A Muslim is bathed soon as he/she dies and a funeral prayer is performed once. If a dead Muslim is transferred to another country, they may perform another funeral prayer which is contrary Islamic teachings. Certain regulations exist in a number of countries injecting some kind of fluid into the dead body before it is cleared to be transported outside a country which does not auger well in the Muslim world. It is rumored that certain internal organs are removed before a dead body is transferred to another country. If true, some parts of Amin will be disposed in another country. When a husband dies, the wife or (wives) is (are) supposed to observe a period of wait. Amin’s spouse(s) might accompany the dead body, again contrary to Islamic teaching. Allow me to quote this section from the Koran: Surah 10. Yunus verses 91-92 “Now (you believe) while you refused to believe before and you were one of the Mufsidun (evil-doers, the corrupters). So this day we shall deliver your (dead) body (out from the sea) that you may be a sign to those who come after you! And verily, many among mankind are heedless of Our Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, etc.). --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 7/18/2003 <>
ugnet_: CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF THE LATE WAHOME MUTAHI(Whispers)
Condolences Wednesday, July 23, 2003 We shall miss you dearly, Whispers Wahome Mutahi (1952 - 2003) We at the Nation Media Group express our heartfelt condolences to Wahome Mutahis family at the loss of a father, a partner and friend. I have learnt of Wahomes death this afternoon with shock and profound sorrow. His loss is felt not by you alone but by the media fraternity as a whole. Wahome passed away at 5.30am this morning after he succumbed to a coma at the Kenyatta National Hospital. Wahome developed complications after undergoing a minor surgical operation on February 26, 2003. Over so many years, Wahome with his column Whispers gave life and laughter to our newspapers and brought light into our lives. Indeed our Sunday mornings have not been the same since we read his last article on February 23, before he fell ill and now unfortunately we will never again . Wahome was not just a humour writer but a literary writer. His books include Three Days on the Cross, The Jail Bugs, and Doomsday. He was also the author of the humour book - How to be a Kenyan. As a thespian, he inspired the rediscovery of Kikuyu theatre through the production of plays such as Mugaathe Mubogothi and Makaririra Kioro. Wahome had a way of pricking our conscience with his humour, which is what made his writing so different. Wahomes creative work marked an echelon for humour writers especially in East Africa and it will be hard to find someone who can fit in his shoes. Besides his Whispers column in Kenya, he also had two columns in our Ugandan publication, the Monitor with Crazy Kenyans and Lugambo. Whispers, as many called him, has not only left a gap in our hearts, but a gap in African media as well. His work can never be replaced and his work will never be forgotten. No words can explain the pain we feel but let us draw strength from knowing that while he was here, he reminded us how good it felt to laugh and to be alive and lets live like he would have wanted us to. May the Almighty God rest his soul in Eternal Peace. WILFRED D KIBORO GROUP CEO NATION MEDIA GROUP Comments\Views about this article Copyright ©2003, Nation Media Group Ltd. All rights reserved. Front Page | News | Business | Comment | Letters | Sports | Cutting Edge | Feedback Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger
Re: ugnet_: The Great Catfish War
J Ssemakula; It would be nice if you cut/paste the articlers you refer to, rather than just giving us the url. Most times some of us cant access them! Thank you. y From: "J Ssemakula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: The Great Catfish War Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:17:13 + _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --- Begin Message --- This article and the one I sent yesterday on the US's protectionist trade policies indicate that AGOA, NEPAD, globolization, etc are nothing but smoke-and-mirrors as far as the Third World, especially Africa, is concerned. Africans need to tell the US and the rest of the world in no uncertain terms: unless you open your markets and stop subsidies to your farmers, forget African oil. While this is the only thing the US will understand, the chance of it happening is just a tad less that Africa putting a man on the moon in a month of Sundays... - The Great Catfish War July 22, 2003 The fate of Vietnam's catfish offers a warning to poorer nations who try to play by the big boys' rules in the world trading system. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/22/opinion/22TUE1.html?ex=1059889413&ei=1&en=a054380ed05839f9 ps: To the internet police:- Let's be realistic, federo does not grow in a vacuum, much less in poverty... (Man cannot live on bread alone!) Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* --- End Message ---
ugnet_: [abujaNig] Bring Amin back-UPC
Bring Amin home - UPC By Chris Obore July 21, 2003 Monitor The UPC wants the government to let former President Idi Amin return home. The Uganda People's Congress, whose government was deposed by Mr Amin in January 1971, says that it would be wrong for President Yoweri Museveni to let a former president die in exile without support. According to the UPC, Amin is a Ugandan citizen, and the government has the responsibility to look after him. Amin has lived in exile in Saudi Arabia since he was overthrown in 1979. On Saturday, The Monitor broke a story that the former head of state was ill and in coma at the King Fahad Hospital in Riyadh. Mrs Nalongo Madina Amin told The Monitor that she had asked President Museveni to allow her ailing husband to return home. Mr Museveni reportedly answered that he would instead arrest Amin the moment the former President set foot on Ugandan soil. A government official has now indicated that the family would be allowed to bring back the former President's body if Amin were to die in exile. The UPC, whose own leader, Mr Milton Obote, lives in exile in Zambia, sees it rather differently. "Why should Museveni want to finish off a man who is ailing? He is behaving like a witch," said Mr Peter Walubiri, a member of the UPC's Presidential Policy Commission. Walubiri said that Amin is a Ugandan who has the right to be home. "Let him be allowed home. After he is well, we can discuss the suspicion that he committed crimes. The police and the DPP will take action," he said. Walubiri said that the duty of the government is to care for all its citizens, including those in prison. "For us in UPC we definitely have no love for Amin, but we would not deny him the right to be a citizen," he said. Walubiri said that Museveni should respect the sanctity of life. The President has no moral authority to condemn other people, Walubiri said; adding that many people have died since 1972 because of Museveni's activities. He did not elaborate. "Let Amin get investigated after treatment by the state. If the UPC got back to power, we would treat Museveni if he fell sick," the UPC official said. President Museveni once said that he would shoot dead Obote, if the twice-deposed former President dared step on Ugandan soil again. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Free shipping on all inkjet cartridge & refill kit orders to US & Canada. Low prices up to 80% off. We have your brand: HP, Epson, Lexmark & more. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5510 http://us.click.yahoo.com/GHXcIA/n.WGAA/ySSFAA/TTwplB/TM -~-> **Keep Hope Alive!!!* Site of the Week:- http://www.iseehope.org Nigeria arise to rebuild Hope ++ Nigerians for Nigeria, rebuilding a Country where No man is oppressed. - --- Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **Keep Hope Alive!!!* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: ugnet_: Re: Kanyeihamba on the Phantom Arms ofthe1960s, Ibingira andtheConspiracies
J Ssemakula: Why dont you just buy (or borrow from your nearest library) the book, read it and then comment. Skip the drivel, man. You seem to have a pathological hatred for Obote. Why? y From: "J Ssemakula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Re: Kanyeihamba on the Phantom Arms ofthe1960s, Ibingira and theConspiracies Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 18:46:05 + _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --- Begin Message --- Mr. Dambisya, I have not read/seen Kanyeihamba's book. What you state of the gentleman's credentials hardly impresses anyone as to his credibility as a source of information. Here is what would help me determine if his book is worth spending time on. a. What was his role in those days (1960s)? i.e. did he personally witness the events he writes about, or did he, like the rest of us, depend on the rumor-mill (a.k.a. 'Radio-Katwe') as his source of information. b. If he did not witness the evenst from close quarters, as Ibingira did, whom did he interview (it usual to give your source in academic endeavors of this nature, e.g. see Michael Wright's book, Buganda in the Heroic Age or other historical writings). c. Since much of your excerpt depends on a letter alleged written to the Queen of England by consiratorial Baganda traditionalists, does Kanyeihamba or can you, give us a reprint of this letter, or point us a source where this letter has been published, so we satisfy ourselves that: (i) its existence not a figment of somebody's imagination (ii) not a forgery (the miracle mordern technology can assist one in determining if something is a genuine article or not). This is because we can hardly beleive that if such a letter actually existed -- and were genuine -- Obote and his indefatigible henchmen would not have publicized to the widest possible extent as proof-positive of Ssekabaka Muteesa's and Baganda's wickedness! Please keep in mind that the British government has released/leaked a great many documents -- even supposedly secret documents -- concerning Uganda (and other areas), and that various archives of those documents are accessible to the ordinary Kibuuka and Opio. If I am not mistaken, they in fact relaese documents 25 years or so after the events, except for 'sensitive' or 'active' ones. Finally, in the meantime could you please gives us the books TOC (Table of Contents)? I'll be happy to address the specific issues in your excerpt once I hear from you. Ideally, I'd very much prefer to reply to you after I have had a chance to read the book and have formed an informed opinion of it. Sssemakula ps: why does a book whose title suggests that it deals with events in the 1984-Present time frame dabble in events that happened in the early 1960s? Original Message Follows From: "YOSWA DAMBISYA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"YOSWA DAMBISYA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Kanyeihamba on the Phantom Arms ofthe1960s, Ibingira and theConspiracies Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 16:20:20 +0200 Omw Ssemakula, As I await the evidence which you expect me to dispute in defense of Milton Obote and his part in the 1960s developments, I have been reading "Justice Prof Dr GW Kanyeihamba; LLB, LLM, PhD, JSC, SC" 's recently released book: Constitutional and Political History of Uganda: From 1984 to the Present. I found a section on what he refers to as the "Dramatic Years, 1962-1966" and "The Conspiracies" therein particularly relevant to the issue of the phantom arms. I have attempted to reproduce sections of the book for the edification of those who may not have got hold of the book yet. I apologise for any mistakes that I may have made in the process but are willing to correct them as the discussions proceed. The quotes are taken from pages 88-94. "...By 1965, the divisionist and traditionalist elements had penetrated the party, and acquired active supporters within the rank and file of the party followers**. The party was torn by confusion because many of those voices belonged to some of the most influential leaders of the party* After the successful referendum and successful transfer of the two "Lost Counties" to Bunyoro in 1964, the animosity of Buganda towards the Obote government and UPC escalated. Buganda traditionalists at Mengo begun to exploit all possible political angles with the aim of undermining and eventually removing Obote from power. A political alliance between the Kabaka, his ministers and disgruntled elements within UPC was reached. The latter included and was led by the then Minister of Justice, Grace Ibingira, who was at the same time, the Secretary General of UPC. He had **Balaki Kirya, George Magezi and Dr Emmanuel Lumu, who were also Cabinet Ministers in Obote's government*.. "
ugnet_: GOD THE GOOD& PERFECT DESIGN ARTIST
Archbishop Orombi firm on gay issuesBy Emmanuel N. MugaruraJuly 22, 2003 Anglican Archbishop-elect Henry Orombi has taken a firm stand on homosexuality. People should respect nature and the great creator who modelled man and woman. He wasnt blind and he knows why he created a mans parts and a womans parts. Why should anyone try to undo that? the man of God said. God is a good designer. He designed man in that fashion, and woman in her fashion. It wasnt a mistake. Why do you contradict natural design, I dont think its an issue, Mr Orombi said in an interview with The Monitor. In any case, our laws dont respect it and we as the church operate under the existing laws. Theres no way we can accept anybody, even a group to disorganise us, he said. He said that gay campaigners are agents of evil who should be ignored. We should not even discuss it [homosexuality] because it has no place in our society, the archbishop said. He said that he could not see any controversy because it was not an issue for the church but only for the individuals who have their own agenda. It's controversial where people have no clear-cut opinion. We know what we still believe in. To us it's not an issue, he said. He praised the Anglican Church for taking a bold decision in rejecting the enthronement of a gay bishop in Britain. Orombi was speaking to The Monitor from his home in Goli, Nebbi. Orombi, the newly elected archbishop of the Church of Uganda, is the bishop of Nebbi Diocese. The archbishop also said that the church would not be barred from politics. There is no way you can separate the church from politics. We are leading people and politics is about people. The church will continue to guide the people spiritually and if that means being political, then the church will remain in politics, Orombi said. I dont seem to understand when people say the church should keep out of politics. It's difficult to draw a line between the church and politics, he said. The church and politics can stimulate each other if they are both active. They both serve the people of God. In June, President Yoweri Museveni said that the clergy should keep out of politics.Asked about the so-called third term debate, the bishop said he could not comment on speculation. There are many people looking to change. If time for it comes, no one will stop it, not even the church will, he said. The full interview with Orombi will be posted on this site tomorrow. © 2003 The Monitor Publications East African | Daily Nation | About Us | Feedback | Site Map | License | Monitor MailWant to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger
ugnet_: Fwd: NYTimes.com Article: Homosexuality Issue Threatens to Break Anglicanism inTwo
Homosexuality Issue Threatens to Break Anglicanism in Two July 19, 2003 By LAURIE GOODSTEIN The election of a gay bishop in New Hampshire is threatening to crack open the fault line over homosexuality in the worldwide Anglican Communion. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/19/national/19BISH.html?ex=1059650722&ei=1&en=96855fa2125f2628 Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*.
ugnet_: Idi Amin Improving As Cabinet Set to Rule on His Fate
Cabinet to rule on Amin's fateBy Ssemujju Ibrahim Nganda & David Kibirige July 24, 2003 - Monitor The Cabinet will decide former President Idi Amin's fate. Mr Amin is ailing in Saudi Arabia, where he lives in exile. His family recently asked the government to let him return and "die from home". The Prime Minister, Prof. Apolo Nsibambi, told reporters yesterday that the Cabinet would debate whether Amin should return home, dead or alive. Nsibambi spoke to reporters at Parliament. According to Nsibambi, it is better for Amin to be treated in Saudi Arabia because medical services are better there. The prime minister said that if the former president died, the Cabinet would consider his family's request. He said that the Cabinet would then also debate whether to accord him a state funeral. Nsibambi said that it is in bad taste to debate the former president's funeral when he is still alive. Amin's family has, meanwhile, announced that he is improving. His son, Mr Ali Amin, told The Monitor yesterday that Amin has regained consciousness. "Take it from me. I have contacted the people in Saudi Arabia and they have assured me that he is greatly improving. He can recognise people and can even talk," Ali said. Ali, who holds a Saudi passport, returned to Uganda a few years ago. Mr Amin Mwanga and Mr Hussein Kato are at their father's bedside at the Saudi hospital. Ms Madina Amin also joined her husband at the hospital yesterday, moments after arriving from Kampala. Last night she called The Monitor and confirmed that the patient "has improved". © 2003 The Monitor Publications Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
ugnet_: The sad suffering of our people.
Madhvani wrong to molest Katookes poor By Yeka Morgan July 22, 2003 Wednesday, July 9 was a black day for the people of Katooke Trading Center in Kakira sub-county, Jinja district. Those who watch television read newspapers, or listen to radios must have seen or heard or read about what happened to the people of Katooke. Houses were bulldozed, people were made homeless, property destroyed and property lost A young man, Ndifuna Ndikabona shed tears as he realised he had lost a suitcase containing his degree transcripts and certificates plus other valuables. People spent three nights under campfire and children could not go to school but played in the dust for three days. It was a mourning period for these Ugandans. The story of Katooke dates back to 1960 when the land was surveyed and gazetted. In 196, 1 30.5 acres was set aside for the trading center. Asian businessmen put up structures in the trading center and traded here. The area developed so far is 6 acres while the rest is actually under illegal cultivation of sugar cane. After the expulsion of the Asians by former president Idi Amin in 1972 the buildings were taken over by the then government but after the enactment of Departed Asians Expropriated Property Act of 1982, Madhvani Group requested to be granted caretaker status of some of the properties (buildings). The company obtained this status from the then prime minister Otema Alimadi (RIP). Kakira Sugar Works started running the properties while levying a Shs 10,000 fee per month, which was meant for minor repairs and welfare. No repairs have ever been done though. This went on up to 1999 when the sugar works, through their lawyers, wrote to the people of Katooke giving notice for eviction and threatened to bulldoze the houses. The people of Katooke, responded by obtaining the services of a lawyer who wrote to Kakira asking them to prove ownership within 10 days. Kakira failed to prove this. The people then approached the district for clarification. The chief administrative officer wrote to the commissioner physical planning in the ministry of lands, Mr Herbert Sekandi, on December 29, 1999. The commissioner replied after investigations and clarified in his letter dated December 30, 1999 that Kakira Sugar Works does not own Katooke. He also advised that the centre be brought under the jurisdiction of Jinja. The Madhvanis were notified of this by Sekandi in a letter dated January 31, 2000. In 2001, Jinja district council resolved under minute DC/85/2001 to value the houses and allocate them to the sitting tenants. After getting a report from the govt valuer the district under minute WH/28/2001 gave lease offers to the People of Katooke. The houses were calued at Shs 1,500,000 each. The sitting tenants applied and were given allocation letters by Mr Buyinza Abdalla, the urban and estates officer of Jinja after paying the initial 30% Of the total value. The balance of money was payable over four years. In the same year there were a series of communications from the general manager Kakira Sugar Works requesting the district to degazette Katooke for sugar cane growing. In August 2002, Buyinza wrote a confirmation of ownership to those who have paid. But then in February 2003 Kakira Sugar Works and the office Jinjas resident district commissioner brought security personnel from the defunct Operation Wembley to Katooke who harassed the local. On March 22, the LCV chairman of Jinja told a meeting of councillors Kakira that he has discovered that Madhvani had got repossession certificates from Custodian Board for the Katooke buildings. On the same day the chairman travelled to Katooke with photocopies of certificates for eight plots (the developed plots were 26.) claiming to have discovered them from Custodian Board in Kampala. The certificates are dated March 21, 2003 and copied to Jinja district council,, On March 24, 2003 Jinja district council passed a resolution degazetting Katooke for sugar cane growing.
ugnet_: Fwd: Healers to deploy bees against Kony
Healers to deploy bees against Kony By Robert Mwanje July 22, 2003 Traditional healers plan to deploy bees against the Lord's Resistance Army rebel leader, Mr Joseph Kony. The National Council for Traditional Healers and Herbalists Association (Nacotha) has set up a special committee in response to junior Defence minister Ms Ruth Nankabirwas appeal for spiritual support against the rebellion in northern Uganda. Nankabirwa last week said that the government would consider all options to fight the rebels. During their meeting at the Katwe Jubilee Park in Kampala yesterday, the traditional healers said that they would send bees and horrible diseases to destroy the rebels. They would also empower the army with charms. "We are ready to help the UPDF to handle the insecurity in northern Uganda. Using our spiritual powers, we shall send bees to kill the rebels,Mr Karim Musasizi said. Musasizi is the general secretary for Nacotha. The chairman, Mr Kacwano Nabamba, said that 11 spiritually empowered healers were to be deployed against Kony. However, the spirits reportedly want all white people, including UN and Red Cross staff, out of the war zone. The traditional healers said that after they have killed Kony, the government should gazette a special site for a traditionalcathedral. © 2003 The Monitor Publications Konys witchdoctor killed By Patrick Elobu Angonu July 22, 2003 The UPDF and LRA rebels are locked up in running battles in Morungatuny, the UPDF 3 Division commander, Col Andrew Guti has confirmed. Yes we have been engaging the enemy at Morungatuny for the last two days. But for details ask my PRO...Col Guti said on phone yesterday. The 3rd Division PRO, Lt Martin Nsengiyunva confirmed the battles, which started on Sunday afternoon. Lt Nsengiyunva said that he was yet to be briefed by field commanders, about any casualty. However, Kasese RDC Mr Musa Ecweru who is co-ordinating the Teso militia against the LRA said that the militia killed an LRA witch doctor during the battle. When the militia charged the area, we found the remains of a person who had a lot of juju pasted on his body. His head was chopped off and we could not identify him but we strongly suspect he was an LRA witchdoctor,Ecweru said. He said that the LRA positions are being attacked both in Lira and Teso. The UPDF and militia were combing Olwa, where the LRA had pitched camp. But no one should be quick to say that the LRA have left Teso. We pronounced it some time but we were mistaken,he said. However, civilian sources said that a gunship killed three people at Aluya in Lira district, a stone throw from Olwa. Sources also said that the LRA killed a teacher of Okude Primary School in Katakwi district. Lt Nsengiyunva said that the information was yet to be verified. Meanwhile, hunger is claiming the lives of some Internally Displaced People (IDPs) in Soroti. The WFP recently donated some food, but it was not enough. Obalanga sub-county LC-III chairman, Mr Patrick Erau and the LC-V councillor, Mr Julius Ochen told the National Political Commissar, Dr Crispus Kiyonga that a one Enyimu of Aguyaguya in Obalanga died of hunger at Swaria Primary School camp in Soroti town on Saturday. Dr Kiyonga visited Soroti over the weekend to meet religious leaders. © 2003 The Monitor Publications
ugnet_: 'Dead or Alive; Amin should return'
Dead or alive; Amin should returnBy Mercy Nalugo & Victor KaramagiJuly 22, 2003-Monitor Dead or alive, some Ugandans want ailing former President Idi Amin back. As a Ugandan and a former head of State, Amin deserves to be forgiven and accorded a decent burial if he dies, people say, as The Monitor found out in Kampala yesterday. Mr Richard Kabigumira, 26, a boda boda cyclist. Amin is a Ugandan who shouldnt die in exile. Whether dead or alive, government should sanction his return. I am sure hes not going to rule again. But I would give him my vote if he recovers and wants to run for president. Mr Ahmed Mawejje, 32, a businessman from Mulago. Government should pardon Amin and let him return, like former presidents Godfrey Binaisa and Tito Okello Lutwa. If such leaders are not allowed to return they could plot to overthrow President Musevenis government. Mr Farouk Kasajja, a trader in Kampala, says Amin has no case. In case he has any, let government charge him. Mr Badru Mulongo, 38, a shop owner on Wilson Road. Amin is a Ugandan. He is an old man now and I dont see why he should not return. He does not have any ambitions. People say he killed many people but I think there is no leader who has not killed. He should be accorded a state burial as a former president. After all he brought back the body of Kabaka Muteesa. Mr Adam Nakumusana, 78, of Mukono. Amin should be allowed to return to Uganda whether dead or alive. Amin as a person never killed. In any case, no government has a clean sheet. He gave us the land where Old Kampala Mosque is built. He constructed churches and mosques in barracks, which no other leader has done. Mr Joseph Musisi, 32, a communications service provider. Every African leader has made mistakes. Amin is powerless now. He cannot cause trouble. We should be looking at a new Uganda, not that of the Amin days. If he dies, he should be given a state burial. Mr Vinally Timbisimirwa, 27, a taxi driver. Amin should be given a chance to come back. If he dies, his body should also be brought back. I have no problem with that. After death, why cant we forget the bad things he did as president? Mr Umaru Lutwama, 27, a businessman from Kawaala. Amin should come back like former President Godfrey Binaisa. If he dies, his body should be brought back. He might have done bad things but he also achieved in certain fields. Amin brought back Kabaka Muteesas body and gave him a state burial. Amin expelled Asians who had taken over all the businesses in Uganda. Some of his achievements are still evident todate. Haji Abdu Garanga, 50, peasant. I will be happy if Amin returns. He did much for Uganda and people had enough money. He killed rebels, even other leaders kill. In case he dies, he should be recognised by the government. Mr Twaha Kabengwa, 25,boda boda cyclist. Whether dead or alive, Amin remains a Ugandan and government should allow him back. During his regime, people would get free sugar and salt. Mr James Kalibbala, 25, a resident of Zana. All leaders have bad records. All governments have killed. Amin should be allowed back. In Amins time people had enough money to get along. Mr Stephen Kisembo, a trader in Kisekka Market. Amin constructed schools, roads and hospitals. Okello Lutwa was buried here and Binaisa too is back. Why not Amin? Ms Margaret Nakachwa, a resident of Kasubi Amin is a Ugandan who should be allowed to return. Ms Alice Birungi, a trader in Katimba Market. Amins body should be brought back. Ms Rose Birabwa of Nsambya. Amin should not return. From what we heard, he is a murderer, he abducted and killed peoples husbands. If one was richer than him (Amin), he/she wouldnt survive. Ms Erusa Namakula, a newspaper vendor. Amins body should not be brought back, he is a murderer. He killed all my chlldren and relatives. Hajji Mulinda, 50, a businessman in Kampala. He should be allowed to return. During his regime, I was happier as a person than I have been in subsequent regimes. Even if he committed some atrocities, government should allow him to come and die here in his country. Mr Kasule Sirimu, 37, a businessman in Bwaise. As a Movement supporter, I think President Museveni should allow Amin to come back. Let him bring Amin whether dead or alive. I have a feeling this will increase Musevenis popularity. If Museveni does not act, the governments image would be tainted. Everybody is saying we should allow him to return because he can no longer cause trouble. Mr Wilberforce Kalungi, 50, a photographer in Najjanankumbi. Amin gave Ugandans businesses after he chased Asians. No leader has done that. People say Amin killed his opponents but every ruler does the same to his opponents. He brought back Kabaka Muteesas body. If he dies, he should be given a state burial. Ms Rehema Kabale, 40, a housewife from Lungujja. Let Amin come home. Other countries respect their former presidents. We should also do the same. He should be allowed to die in his country. He should com
ugnet_: Re: Kanyeihamba on the Phantom Arms ofthe1960s, Ibingira and theConspiracies
Mr. Dambisya, I have not read/seen Kanyeihamba's book. What you state of the gentleman's credentials hardly impresses anyone as to his credibility as a source of information. Here is what would help me determine if his book is worth spending time on. a. What was his role in those days (1960s)? i.e. did he personally witness the events he writes about, or did he, like the rest of us, depend on the rumor-mill (a.k.a. 'Radio-Katwe') as his source of information. b. If he did not witness the evenst from close quarters, as Ibingira did, whom did he interview (it usual to give your source in academic endeavors of this nature, e.g. see Michael Wright's book, Buganda in the Heroic Age or other historical writings). c. Since much of your excerpt depends on a letter alleged written to the Queen of England by consiratorial Baganda traditionalists, does Kanyeihamba or can you, give us a reprint of this letter, or point us a source where this letter has been published, so we satisfy ourselves that: (i) its existence not a figment of somebody's imagination (ii) not a forgery (the miracle mordern technology can assist one in determining if something is a genuine article or not). This is because we can hardly beleive that if such a letter actually existed -- and were genuine -- Obote and his indefatigible henchmen would not have publicized to the widest possible extent as proof-positive of Ssekabaka Muteesa's and Baganda's wickedness! Please keep in mind that the British government has released/leaked a great many documents -- even supposedly secret documents -- concerning Uganda (and other areas), and that various archives of those documents are accessible to the ordinary Kibuuka and Opio. If I am not mistaken, they in fact relaese documents 25 years or so after the events, except for 'sensitive' or 'active' ones. Finally, in the meantime could you please gives us the books TOC (Table of Contents)? I'll be happy to address the specific issues in your excerpt once I hear from you. Ideally, I'd very much prefer to reply to you after I have had a chance to read the book and have formed an informed opinion of it. Sssemakula ps: why does a book whose title suggests that it deals with events in the 1984-Present time frame dabble in events that happened in the early 1960s? Original Message Follows From: "YOSWA DAMBISYA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"YOSWA DAMBISYA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Kanyeihamba on the Phantom Arms ofthe1960s, Ibingira and theConspiracies Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 16:20:20 +0200 Omw Ssemakula, As I await the evidence which you expect me to dispute in defense of Milton Obote and his part in the 1960s developments, I have been reading "Justice Prof Dr GW Kanyeihamba; LLB, LLM, PhD, JSC, SC" 's recently released book: Constitutional and Political History of Uganda: From 1984 to the Present. I found a section on what he refers to as the "Dramatic Years, 1962-1966" and "The Conspiracies" therein particularly relevant to the issue of the phantom arms. I have attempted to reproduce sections of the book for the edification of those who may not have got hold of the book yet. I apologise for any mistakes that I may have made in the process but are willing to correct them as the discussions proceed. The quotes are taken from pages 88-94. "...By 1965, the divisionist and traditionalist elements had penetrated the party, and acquired active supporters within the rank and file of the party followers**. The party was torn by confusion because many of those voices belonged to some of the most influential leaders of the party* After the successful referendum and successful transfer of the two "Lost Counties" to Bunyoro in 1964, the animosity of Buganda towards the Obote government and UPC escalated. Buganda traditionalists at Mengo begun to exploit all possible political angles with the aim of undermining and eventually removing Obote from power. A political alliance between the Kabaka, his ministers and disgruntled elements within UPC was reached. The latter included and was led by the then Minister of Justice, Grace Ibingira, who was at the same time, the Secretary General of UPC. He had **Balaki Kirya, George Magezi and Dr Emmanuel Lumu, who were also Cabinet Ministers in Obote's government*.. " In conjunction with the Mengo traditionalists and with the consent of the President, Edward Mutesa II, the King of Buganda, the conspirators approved the contents of a letter which was sent to Her Majesty, Elizabeth II, the Queen of the United Kingdom and Head of the Commonwealth, requesting her government to supply them with guns so that they could fight and overthrow Milton Obote***.. Her Majesty declined the request. " The conspirators next turned to the British High Commission in Uganda and requested it to get in touch with British private firms of gun manufacturers and ask them to supply guns. Gailey and Roberts**.. were contacted but th
Re: ugnet_: Malcom X, Martin King films /videos
Go on the Internet, stupid. y From: "dbbwanika db" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Malcom X, Martin King films /videos Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:18:24 +0200 JUSTICE PARTY http://www.dfwa-u.tk I am appealing to you or anyone to help me get hold of videos or films about the following figures in their social struggles; Martin Luther King Malcom X Fidel Castro Nation of Islam Cabrol South African struggles Mandela European and missionary films of all types filmed between 1700 -1900 in Africa _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
ugnet_: Re: [DPNet] The Great Catfish War
But anybody telling the West to forget about Africa's oil will just be signing their death sentences. Any govt that dares go that route will face a coup in no time - Remember the case of Congo Brazaville? They were ordered to reduce their stake in 'their' oilfields from 7% to 5%. The President who refused is now a refuge, residing in Texas. Remember all the noisy nonsense about 'Arabs' in Sudan using oil weath to kill and enslave black Africans? Well the Sudanese State only has a 2.5% share in the oil of their country. Sometime ago, I suggested here that we use our Federo/Fedalist program partly as a means of hiding our corridors of power. I did not see support in this. We can fight for a federo where we can wear our 'Kanzus' and teach our daughters to kneel before their 'sengas', 'kojjas' etc... properly. But we seem to forget that it is a dog-eat-dog world out there. A friend from Mozambique was lamenting to me the other day. That Mozambique is gone. That Everything of value in their country has been grabbed by Boers and Indians. From the big Hydro Power Stations, to land, to butcheries, down to 'mandazi' hawking. Everything . In Kakira in Uganda, whole trading centres are being erased by Madhvani, and the meager properties of our people scattered into dust. How did you feel when a young man was crying that his Makerere degree certificate and transcript had been lost in the demolitiont? It makes you cry for the return of an Idi Amin. And then we kid ourselves that we have a parliament to look after our people. Some farce of a parliament. Everyone of the aspiring leaders, with their stupid certificates is busy running to white boys and girls in Britain and USA to kiss ass for 'support' and backing. The colonialists our forefathers fought so hard to get rid of, now we are inviting Boers to bring us cabbages and make us roast chicken for 'take-away'. Give the devil his due; mu7 was right when he said that if we keep on being stupid, surely then we deserve no better than being enslaved N.B. On another note. In the circles of conspiracy theorists, word is that the late Dr David Kelly was killed because he knew too much. He was one of the world's five top biological weapons specialists. That he had worked on . the now completed weapon of a genetically altered superplague . that will be used to wipe all of us out. i.e. 'us' the useless and excess population of the earth. (Forget AIDS for it is just a tea party). That when his anonymity was uncovered in the press, it was feared that he would hit back by revealing all. So he had to be got rid of very quickly. He joins a list of close to 20 of the world's leading microbiologists that have died in mysterious deaths just in the last two and half years. Mitayo Potosi From: "J Ssemakula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [DPNet] The Great Catfish War Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:17:13 + _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --- Begin Message --- This article and the one I sent yesterday on the US's protectionist trade policies indicate that AGOA, NEPAD, globolization, etc are nothing but smoke-and-mirrors as far as the Third World, especially Africa, is concerned. Africans need to tell the US and the rest of the world in no uncertain terms: unless you open your markets and stop subsidies to your farmers, forget African oil. While this is the only thing the US will understand, the chance of it happening is just a tad less that Africa putting a man on the moon in a month of Sundays... - The Great Catfish War July 22, 2003 The fate of Vietnam's catfish offers a warning to poorer nations who try to play by the big boys' rules in the world trading system. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/22/opinion/22TUE1.html?ex=1059889413&ei=1&en=a054380ed05839f9 ps: To the internet police:- Let's be realistic, federo does not grow in a vacuum, much less in poverty... (Man cannot live on bread alone!) Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT __ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- End Message ---
Re: ugnet_: [abujaNig] Bring Amin back-UPC
Mulindwa, Its in UPC's interest for a precedent to be set for past leaders to be pardoned or returned for burial in Uganda. Obote's years are numbered and he wouldn't want to be buried in Zambia. Why is Obote's UPC advocating to return Amin when he didn't do so for the first Ugandan President whom he murdered? Mutesa was poisoned by Obote's agents and Obote blocked the return of his body for a decent burial despite the fact that he knew it was the wish of the people of Uganda. The people of Uganda would rather have all these killers Obote and Amin buried in their exile homes. Its even better if their bodies were given to the wolves. If they return they should be tried and confined in prison. The people of Uganda killed by Obote and Amin were not given any option of where they were buried. thousands were buried in mass graves or just left to rot and the legacy is there in the thousands of skulls in Luwero. LM --- Mulindwa Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Bring Amin home - UPC > By Chris Obore > July 21, 2003 Monitor > > > The UPC wants the government to let former > President Idi Amin return home. > > The Uganda People's Congress, whose government > was deposed by Mr Amin in January 1971, says that it > would be wrong for President Yoweri Museveni to let > a former president die in exile without support. > > According to the UPC, Amin is a Ugandan > citizen, and the government has the responsibility > to look after him. > > Amin has lived in exile in Saudi Arabia since > he was overthrown in 1979. > > On Saturday, The Monitor broke a story that > the former head of state was ill and in coma at the > King Fahad Hospital in Riyadh. > > Mrs Nalongo Madina Amin told The Monitor that > she had asked President Museveni to allow her ailing > husband to return home. > > Mr Museveni reportedly answered that he would > instead arrest Amin the moment the former President > set foot on Ugandan soil. > > A government official has now indicated that > the family would be allowed to bring back the former > President's body if Amin were to die in exile. > > The UPC, whose own leader, Mr Milton Obote, > lives in exile in Zambia, sees it rather > differently. > > "Why should Museveni want to finish off a man > who is ailing? He is behaving like a witch," said Mr > Peter Walubiri, a member of the UPC's Presidential > Policy Commission. > > Walubiri said that Amin is a Ugandan who has > the right to be home. > > "Let him be allowed home. After he is well, we > can discuss the suspicion that he committed crimes. > The police and the DPP will take action," he said. > > Walubiri said that the duty of the government > is to care for all its citizens, including those in > prison. > > "For us in UPC we definitely have no love for > Amin, but we would not deny him the right to be a > citizen," he said. > > Walubiri said that Museveni should respect the > sanctity of life. > > The President has no moral authority to > condemn other people, Walubiri said; adding that > many people have died since 1972 because of > Museveni's activities. > > He did not elaborate. > > "Let Amin get investigated after treatment by > the state. If the UPC got back to power, we would > treat Museveni if he fell sick," the UPC official > said. > > President Museveni once said that he would > shoot dead Obote, if the twice-deposed former > President dared step on Ugandan soil again. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > -~--> > Free shipping on all inkjet cartridge & refill kit > orders to US & Canada. Low prices up to 80% off. We > have your brand: HP, Epson, Lexmark & more. > http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5510 > http://us.click.yahoo.com/GHXcIA/n.WGAA/ySSFAA/TTwplB/TM > -~-> > > **Keep Hope Alive!!!* >Site of the Week:- http://www.iseehope.org >Nigeria arise to rebuild Hope > ++ > Nigerians for Nigeria, rebuilding a Country where No > man is oppressed. - > --- > Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **Keep Hope Alive!!!* > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > = LM __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
ugnet_:
> Dear Father,> > Help us remember that the" jerk"> who cut us off in traffic last night is a single mother> who worked nine hours that day and is rushing home to> cook dinner, help with homework, do the laundry and> spend a few precious moments with her children.> > Help us to remember that the pierced, tattooed,> disinterested young man who can't make change> correctly is a worried 19-year-old college student,> balancing his apprehension over final exams with his> fear of not getting his student loans for next semester..> > Remind us, Lord, that the scary looking bum, begging> for money in the same spot every day (who really ought> to get a job!) is a slave to addictions that we can only> imagine (or not) in our worst nightmares.> > Help us to remember that the old couple walking> annoyingly slow through the store aisles and blocking> our shopping progress are savoring this moment,> knowing that, based on the biopsy report she got back> last week, this will be the last year that they go> shopping together.> > Heavenly Father, remind us each day that, of all the> gifts you give us, the greatest gift is love. It is> not enough to share that love with those we hold dear.> > Open our hearts not to just those who are close to us,> but to all humanity. Let us be slow to judge and quick> to forgive, show patience, empathy and love.> > If you send this to 5 people then you have a chance to> make 5 people smile. You won't get any wish for> material things; however, you might just find a piece of> serenity and the warmth of God's touch. The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
ugnet_: Idi Amin is overweight-Mrs Madina Amin
Idi Amin is overweightBy David KibirigeJuly 22, 2003-Monitor Ms Madina Amin yesterday said that her husband is ailing because of advanced age and overweight. She said that Mr Idi Amin Dada, 80, who was yesterday still in coma, weighs about 220 kilogrammes. At his age and then the fact that he is overweight there is little hope that he will fully recover. Salongo is so overweight that am sure it is part of the problem, Madina told The Monitor yesterday as she prepared to travel to Saudi Arabia to attend her husband. She said that Amin gained a lot of weight because he had stopped working out. The family said that the last time the self-proclaimed field marshal stepped on a weighing scale he measured 220 kilogrammes. Amins body mass index (BMI) is said to be more than 40 units, putting him in the obese bracket. BMI is the weight in kilogrammes divided by the height in metres squared. When one exceeds 40 units he is considered obese. The bracket 19 to 24 units is considered normal while 25-30 units is overweight. Being obese makes one prone to diseases such as diabetes. Amin, a former Commonwealth heavyweight boxing champion, stands at 6 feet, 4 inches. He is suffering from hypertension and general fatigue. However, Dr Vincent Karuhanga of the Friends PolyClinic on Kampala Road yesterday questioned the accuracy of Amin's weight. "If Amin is indeed 220 kilos that would make him perhaps one of the heaviest living human beings. Maybe they wanted to say 220 pounds which would be about 100 kilos," Karuhanga said. The doctor said that 220 kilos is the equivalent of three average human beings or two heavyweight boxers. An average, all round human adult weighs about 70 kg (154 pounds). According to the Guinness World Records of 1998, the heaviest person in medical history was Jon Brower Minnoch of Bainbridge in the United States. Minnoch had been obese since childhood. The 6-foot former taxi driver weighed 392 pounds in 1963 and 975 pounds in September 1976. In March 1978, Minnoch was rushed to University Hospital, Seattle, saturated with fluid and suffering from heart and respiratory failure. Consultant endocrinologist Dr. Robert Schwartz calculated that Minnoch must have weighed more than 1,400 pounds when he was admitted. After nearly 16 months on a 1,200-calorie-a-day diet, Minnoch was discharged at 476 pounds. In October 1981, he had to be readmitted, having gained 197 pounds. When he died on September 10, 1983 he weighed more than 798 pounds. Amin has been sick for the last three months and is admitted at Saudi Arabia's King Fahad hospital. He has lived in exile since 1979, first in Libya and later in Saudi Arabia. About three weeks ago he was discharged. However, on July 18 his condition deteriorated and he went into coma. His two sons, Mr Amin Mwanga and Mr Hussein Kato are attending him. Yesterday, Madina Amin was still completing visa and other formalities before she could travel to join her husband in hospital. Government has helped to process the visa and necessary documents. She is flying out tonight, a relative said yesterday. At the weekend, Madina told The Monitor that she had previously met with President Yoweri Museveni and asked him to let her husband to be brought back to Uganda. Mr Museveni reportedly told her that the former President had violated human rights and would be held accountable the moment he arrived in Uganda. Museveni, however, promised to consider the matter, but Madina now complains that the Presidents aides are frustrating her. Amin toppled Mr Milton Obotes government on January 25, 1971 and ruled until April 11, 1979 when a combined force of Ugandan exiles and the Tanzanian army toppled him. He first fled into exile to Libya, then to Iraq, from where he relocated to Saudi Arabia in December 1980. In Saudi Arabia, the ruling royal family barred him from getting involved in active politics. He was also largely barred from speaking to journalists. © 2003 The Monitor Publications Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
ugnet_: THE MOTHER-IN LAW WHO NEVER LIVED TO CELEBRATE HER SON'S WEDDING
News Wednesday, July 23, 2003 Tragedy for newlyweds as Mbugua mother dies By MAORE ITHULA Ms Florence Nyambura Tragedy has struck the man who wed veteran politician Wambui Otieno, with the death of his mother only three days after his marriage. At 53, Mr Peter Mbugua's mother Florence Nyambura was 14 years younger than his bride. Ms Nyamburu died at Naivasha General Hospital only 40 minutes after being admitted. She was being treated for bleeding from the ears, nose, eyes and mouth. Her eldest brother, Mr John Mburu, said the marriage with its 39-year age gap, could have caused her long-standing high blood pressure to worsen. He added however that he was not opposed to the marriage, arguing that his nephew was at 28 a grown man who should be left to decide his own destiny. Wambui declined to comment when the Nation found her at home. "I am not Mama Mbugua's son. I have only got the news now," she said and promised to give an interview later today. She barred the Nation from interviewing her husband, who she said had been devastated by the news. Hospital chief Peter Okoth said Ms Nyambura had been admitted at 3pm on Monday as Ms Florence Kabura, adding he was unaware she was the mother of Mr Mbugua. Dr Okoth declined to discuss the nature of her illness, saying the matter was confidential. Mr Mburu said his sister had been suffering from high-blood pressure for a long time. She had been admitted to Gilgil health centre last April suffering from the complaint. Mr Mburu, a farmer at Turasa in Kinangop, said his sister had left five children; three daughters and two sons. Mr Mbugua was her eldest son. He revealed his sister had sent for him on Sunday morning, saying she was feeling unwell, but he had arrived at Gilgil only on Monday morning. He found his sister in a sad state and she was taken to Gilgil health centre and transferred from there to Naivasha. Mr Mburu added: "I was shocked last night when I was informed by my niece that my sister had died while undergoing treatment." Ms Nyamburu's husband, Mr David Iguanya, who was also a farmer in Kinangop, had died in 1994 following a short illness after which the family moved to Gilgil, he said. He said that he was in the process of informing all other relatives and friends. At Ms Nyambura's home were her youngest daughter Martha Njambi and two cousins Eunice Wanjira and Ann Wangari. Ms Njambi said her mother had been taken ill on Sunday night at around 8pm. Comments\Views about this article Copyright ©2003, Nation Media Group Ltd. All rights reserved. Front Page | News | Business | Comment | Letters | Sports | Cutting Edge | Feedback Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger
ugnet_: set research goals
African researchers asked to set research goals Katie Mantell22 July 2003 Germany's Volkswagen Foundation is launching a funding initiative that seeks to increase the engagement of young African researchers in collaborative projects with European scientists by asking them to define jointly their research topics. The 'Knowledge for Tomorrow' programme aims to build capacity and provide sustainable support for academic researchers in sub-Saharan Africa. But unlike many other funding initiatives, the new programme does set out by defining the specific areas or topics of research that it is prepared to support. "Researchers in Africa want to define their own research goals through a cooperative process," says Antje Gunsenheimer, a programme manager at the Hanover-based foundation. "We want real collaboration [between German and African researchers], not just the type of collaboration that only exists on paper." The foundation will run a series of exploratory workshops next year, mainly in Africa, to establish the critical issues that need to be tackled, and to promote dialogue between researchers from the two regions. Similar workshops will be held every two or three years after that in order to ensure that the funding initiative can be moulded to reflect new concerns. "The idea is to make a really flexible funding initiative that can react rapidly to issues," says Gunsenheimer. The foundation has not yet revealed how much money will be available through the new programme. "The size of the funding available depends on what comes forward [through the workshops]," says Beate Reinhold of the foundation's press and public relations department. "We don't have a fixed budget." The foundation provides funds of around 100 million to a variety of initiatives each year. On average, it gives around 3 million to each funding programme. Further information about the funding programme will be available on the Foundation's website, http://www.volkswagen-stiftung.de/english.html, at the end of July. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
ugnet_: Asians and NRM at it again?
Madhvani wrong to molest Katookes poorBy Yeka MorganJuly 22, 2003 Wednesday, July 9 was a black day for the people of Katooke Trading Center in Kakira sub-county, Jinja district. Those who watch television read newspapers, or listen to radios must have seen or heard or read about what happened to the people of Katooke. Houses were bulldozed, people were made homeless, property destroyed and property lost A young man, Ndifuna Ndikabona shed tears as he realised he had lost a suitcase containing his degree transcripts and certificates plus other valuables. People spent three nights under campfire and children could not go to school but played in the dust for three days. It was a mourning period for these Ugandans. The story of Katooke dates back to 1960 when the land was surveyed and gazetted. In 196, 1 30.5 acres was set aside for the trading center. Asian businessmen put up structures in the trading center and traded here. The area developed so far is 6 acres while the rest is actually under illegal cultivation of sugar cane. After the expulsion of the Asians by former president Idi Amin in 1972 the buildings were taken over by the then government but after the enactment of Departed Asians Expropriated Property Act of 1982, Madhvani Group requested to be granted caretaker status of some of the properties (buildings). The company obtained this status from the then prime minister Otema Alimadi (RIP). Kakira Sugar Works started running the properties while levying a Shs 10,000 fee per month, which was meant for minor repairs and welfare. No repairs have ever been done though. This went on up to 1999 when the sugar works, through their lawyers, wrote to the people of Katooke giving notice for eviction and threatened to bulldoze the houses. The people of Katooke, responded by obtaining the services of a lawyer who wrote to Kakira asking them to prove ownership within 10 days. Kakira failed to prove this. The people then approached the district for clarification. The chief administrative officer wrote to the commissioner physical planning in the ministry of lands, Mr Herbert Sekandi, on December 29, 1999. The commissioner replied after investigations and clarified in his letter dated December 30, 1999 that Kakira Sugar Works does not own Katooke. He also advised that the centre be brought under the jurisdiction of Jinja. The Madhvanis were notified of this by Sekandi in a letter dated January 31, 2000. In 2001, Jinja district council resolved under minute DC/85/2001 to value the houses and allocate them to the sitting tenants. After getting a report from the govt valuer the district under minute WH/28/2001 gave lease offers to the People of Katooke. The houses were calued at Shs 1,500,000 each. The sitting tenants applied and were given allocation letters by Mr Buyinza Abdalla, the urban and estates officer of Jinja after paying the initial 30% Of the total value. The balance of money was payable over four years. In the same year there were a series of communications from the general manager Kakira Sugar Works requesting the district to degazette Katooke for sugar cane growing. In August 2002, Buyinza wrote a confirmation of ownership to those who have paid. But then in February 2003 Kakira Sugar Works and the office Jinjas resident district commissioner brought security personnel from the defunct Operation Wembley to Katooke who harassed the local. On March 22, the LCV chairman of Jinja told a meeting of councillors Kakira that he has discovered that Madhvani had got repossession certificates from Custodian Board for the Katooke buildings. On the same day the chairman travelled to Katooke with photocopies of certificates for eight plots (the developed plots were 26.) claiming to have discovered them from Custodian Board in Kampala. The certificates are dated March 21, 2003 and copied to Jinja district council,,On March 24, 2003 Jinja district council passed a resolution degazetting Katooke for sugar cane growing. In April 2003, the sub-county council of Kakira protested the district resolution on grounds that 800 people will be displaced. It also argued that many people eke a living out of this place and that government had even established a health centre in Katooke. But on April 29, the people received eviction notices giving them 30 days to leave. Government never intervened even after it was request. Upon the intervention of Kakira sub-county council Madhvani agreed to compensate each landlord Shs 200,000 and an equal amount to tenants. But divided by the ten families this meant each household was to receive just Shs 20,000 and only on condition that the people vacated the premises. Naturally, the offer met with protest and a subsequent application for a court injunction on July 7. But this did not deter Madhvani from sneaking in at 6 p.m. two days after with four caterpillar bulldozers, and under heavy guard by riot police, regular police, local defence unit personnel and his own security. Peo
Re: [FedsNet] Re: ugnet_: Part 111 BUGANDA CRISIS 1964 -- Phantom Arms of the1960s
Mr. Ocaya p'Ocure: * Since you have failed to substantiate Ibingira's "shoddy parochial concept" it take it that your was just an ideologue's knee-jerk reaction. * You have also failed to substantiate your charges that Ssekabaka Muteesa II murdered anyone on a 'rampage in Bunyoro'. Otherwise provide names, precise dates and places. Or at the very least, refer to a published source -- unless you want us to believe that His enemies also failed to seize such a 'golden' opportunity to demonstrate to the world what a wicked fellow He was. It would appear that making baseless claims is your style. * I am unconvinced that you have read Ibingira's book in question, i.e. African Upheavals Since Independence. You could dispel my doubts by giving us a precis of what you think the book 3 or 4 central tenets are (e.g. www.buganda.com/bitabop1.htm). Finally, I'd like to disabuse you of a misconception: I am not now, nor have I ever been in the intimidation business. So your efforts to, er, "tie a section on me" will come to naught, zilctch, zip, ... SsemakulaOriginal Message Follows From: "Ocaya p'Ocure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [FedsNet] Re: ugnet_: Part 111 BUGANDA CRISIS 1964 -- Phantom Arms of the 1960s Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 16:45:10 +0200 Omw. Semakula, You wrote; Your sadness notwithstanding, exactly what "shoddy parochial concept" do you refer to? Truly, with due respect, I have read your concern about my wordings, which I belief were not some sort of gutter languages. But I have to accept, that I was thinking of you trying to view our Ugandan political problems under some sort and narrow approach. You again continue by asking me; When did Ssekabaka Muteesa II ever go on a 'rampage in Bunyoro' and whom did he murder? I think my vivid memory it was one market day in 1964 when Kabaka Muteesa II shot and killed eight people (in Buyaga or Bugangazi---the infamous lost counties). All the eight were Banyoro and thier only crimes were being Banyoro. You ended your concern by asking; And, finally, have you ever read Ibingira's book which I excerpted? Let me end by saying I read that book. And again let me hastened to say that with due respect as a concern Ugandan about the political events in our dear country, I have read several books authored by many Ugandans, because I feel they have tried hard to give the true pictures of the social political problems of our dear country positively. For example I read the following:- Gingyera Pinycwa, Pre - Independence politics in Uganda. Karugire Samwiri, A political History of Uganda. Kabaka Muteesa II, Desecration of my Kingdom. Ibingira G.S.K, The forging of an African nation. Mazrui Ali, Soldiers and Kinsmen in Uganda (Foreigner). Ingham Kenneth, The Making of modern Uganda (Foreigner). Just to mention a few and I think this answers you concern, but I think there is no need for you in trying to intimidate those of us who might have not read books those you have read. At times professionally, we have different professions whereby we can't read more, but only to learn some elementary or rudimentary idea of ones country. Ocaya p'Ocure - Original Message - From: J Ssemakula To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 1:56 AM Subject: Re: [FedsNet] Re: ugnet_: Part 111 BUGANDA CRISIS 1964 -- Phantom Arms of the 1960s Mr. Ocaya p'Ocure: You write: "Frankly, I am sad I feel you seem to value what the late Ibingira wrote on some shoddy parochial concept, which is similar with what M7 and his cahoots preached in the Luwero triangle and whereby they constructed an "alliance accompli," that seems to be the beginning of the geographical Ugandan State." Your sadness notwithstanding, exactly what "shoddy parochial concept" do you refer to? You continue: "My simple understanding is that, such arrangement made the Buganda Kingdom and her Kings to come became untouchable human beings in Uganda of some sorts and as such the late Kabaka Muteesa II went on rampage in Bunyoro in the infamous lost counties (or call it lost countries and, or Ghost) in 1964. Truly, I feel if such action of murder was bad enough under the same 1962 constitution, it would have been the great strength of wisdom by the late Grace Ibingira to prevailed over the late Kabaka Muteesa, since Mr. Semakula beliefs the late Ibingira was a wise and trained attorney at law." When did Ssekabaka Muteesa II ever go on a 'rampage in Bunyoro' and whom did he murder? And, finally, have you ever read Ibingira's book which I excerpted? Ssemakula Original Message Follows From: "Ocaya p'Ocure" Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: , Subject: Re: [FedsNet] Re: ugnet_: Part 111 BUGANDA CRISIS 1964 -- Phantom Arms of the 1960s Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:55:43 +0200 Omw Semakula and FedsNet members, By Ocaya p'Ocure Kindly, Mr. Semakula, I think I am not going to block your rights to em
ugnet_: Monitor Survey: Ugandans want Ex-President Amin back home
Ugandans want Amin to returnBy Mercy NalugoJuly 22, 2003 -Monitor Whether dead or alive, Ugandans want former President Idi Amin back home. According to the street survey carried out by The Monitor in Kampala yesterday, Ugandans also want the government to give him all the benefits of a former President. In case he dies, Ugandans said, Amin should be accorded a state burial at the Heroes Ground at Kololo. Amin seized power from Mr Milton Obote on January 25, 1971. He is in coma at the King Fahad Hospital in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. He is suffering from high blood pressure, according to his wife, Madina. The government has indicated that Amin would never be accorded a state burial. The government would also not meet the funeral and other expenses like flying back his body in the event he died in exile. Ugandans we spoke too, however, have a different view. Many of those surveyed want the government to forget all about the past and concentrate on the future. They argue that irrespective of his past failures, Amin remains a son of the soil and a former President of Uganda. They also argue that because at 80 he is already so old and reportedly on his deathbed, he would not harm the government. The government would gain popularity if it forgave Amin, some people said. Others looked back and said Amin scored some achievements. They said that under Amin Ugandans were not so poor. Government should forgive him and meet his hospital expenses since the Amnesty Act 2000 calls for forgiveness, some other respondents said. The Amnesty Act may not apply to Amin as it only provides for those that have rebelled against the government since 1986. The beneficiaries must in any case seek forgiveness. © 2003 The Monitor Publications Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
ugnet_: Fwd: NYTimes.com Article: How a Forest Stopped a Fire in Its Tracks
How a Forest Stopped a Fire in Its Tracks July 22, 2003 By JAMES GORMAN When a fire swept through the Blacks Mountain Experimental Forest last September, it was stopped dead by a patch of forest that was different from the rest. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/22/science/earth/22FIRE.html?ex=1059889691&ei=1&en=335aa0db66c2b545 What is the situation with forest fire in Africa (Uganda?) Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*.
ugnet_: LRA War: Killer Bees & Small Pox to help beat Kony-BBC
Last Updated: Tuesday, 22 July, 2003, 15:53 GMT 16:53 UK E-mail this to a friend Printable version Uganda's spiritual war heats up Traditional healers cross Africa are believed to have spiritual powersControversy is brewing in Uganda after a proposal by traditional healers to use killer bees and diseases such as smallpox to help beat the rebels of the Lords Resistance Army (LRA). The LRA has been fighting since the late 1980s to replace President Yoweri Museveni's secular government in a campaign marked by brutality against civilians. The government has appeared powerless in recent months to halt intensified rebel attacks. But now a group of traditional healers, whose own alleged spiritual powers afford them both fear and respect among many poor and rural communities, have offered to step in. The secretary general of the national council for traditional healers and herbalists association (Nacotha), Karim Msasizi, told BBC News Online they had already sent their proposal to the government. He said it was in response to an appeal by junior Defence Minister Ruth Nankabirwa for spiritual support in the fight against the LRA rebels. "The entire operation will be under the control of around five highly qualified traditional healers," said Mr Msasizi. But Ms Nankabirwa has denied the claim by Nacotha. In a press statement, she said that what she originally said was that fear of the LRA leader Joseph Kony's alleged spiritual powers was so deep that people were scared to volunteer information to the government security forces lest Kony spiritually identifies and kill them. She, however, admitted saying that the government would welcome any contributions to the war against the LRA. Invincibility The traditional healers said that they would also empower the army with charms. The healers say they could use charms to kill Kony "We will equip the Uganda People's Defence Force with charms that will make them invincible," said Mr Msasizi. Nacotha is not sure whether President Yoweri Museveni's government will accept the offer. And if it does there are conditions that will have to be met before the traditional healers can move into the war zone. All white people, including the United Nations UN and Red Cross staff, must leave the war zone, they say. "The white people do not respect our culture and their presence would be detrimental to the operation," says Mr Msasizi. They also want the government to set up a "traditional cathedral" after Mr Kony is killed. E-mail this to a friend Printable version Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
ugnet_: Fela Kuti multimedia clip
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ugnet_: Uganda: Authorities Introduce Tax for Sex Workers-BBC
Last Updated: Tuesday, 22 July, 2003, 14:36 GMT 15:36 UK E-mail this to a friend Printable version Tax for Uganda sex workers By Abraham Odeke BBC, Malaba, Uganda Commercial sex services in the Uganda-Kenya border town of Malaba are likely to cost more following the introduction of an annual operating tax by the local authorities. Aids is rife but the sex workers make good money The authorities have ordered commercial sex workers in the town to pay 9,000 Uganda shillings ($2) before they are allowed to operate in the town. Some of the sex workers have rushed to pay the tax. The issue has triggered an angry reaction from some men in Malaba because other sex workers plan to increase their charges. Malaba is the busiest town on the Uganda-Kenya border, with hundreds of cargo trucks and the inter-territorial buses dropping fresh sex clients from across East Africa daily. Reluctant co-operation When news of the sex tax emerged last week, it was treated as a joke. But now it is being taken seriously after Malaba town chief, John Ikileng, threatened to close all the unlicensed sex shops in the town if the sex workers refused to pay the "annual special operating tax". According to Mr Ikileng all working people in the town should assist in the development of Malaba by paying some form of tax. The chief told me there are more than 500 commercial sex workers camped permanently in Malaba town. According to the chief's office, sex workers earn an average of 150,000 shillings tax free every month. The Malaba town treasury is hoping to collect more than four million shillings from the new sex tax this year alone. I spoke to several of the commercial sex workers in Malaba town. The majority of the sex workers told me the tax was illegal and an act of sabotage but would pay it to avoid harassment "We shall not hesitate to hike our charges to compensate for the abnormal tax we have been asked to pay," one woman told me. "We expect our clients will co-operate accordingly," another said. E-mail this to a friend Printable version LINKS TO MORE AFRICA STORIES Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] Kanyeihamba on the Phantom Arms ofthe1960s
Mr. Kigongo, Thank you for your note. It is because of the attitude of African rulers like Obote, that whose who seek to remove them from power through lawful means are 'enemies of the state', 'consipirators', etc, that we are in so much trouble in Africa. Kanyeihamba, being a lawyer, ought to know better! He should know that changing leaders is the very essence of politics and one of its features, and that there is absolutely nothing untoward in this. Otherwise, we need to elect kings as 'imperial presidents', with tenure for life. Sssemakula Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FedsNet] Kanyeihamba on the Phantom Arms ofthe1960s Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:49:39 -0400 Listers, Prof Kanyeihamba, if he was quoted correctly, seems to have an unusual usage of words. First, he uses the word "conspiracy" to describe actions that are not only legal but normal in politics. The "third conspiracy" (Obote planning to change the constition) as he himself admits, was not a conspiracy at all because it was an openly discussed political plan. Changing the constituion by lawful means is not a crime, changing it by force is treason. The second conspiracy was a plan by Obote's opponents within the UPC to change the party leadership. This is a normal part of the democratic process, but the Obote wing of the UPC has never accepted that notion, to this day they still believe in life Presidencies. Obote, Amin and Museveni have all been in consensus on this matter. Kanyheihamba refers to "traditionalists" supposedly "penetrating the UPC" to undermine Obote from within. Again his usage of English is idiosyncratic. The opponents of Obote wer founding members of the UPC (Ngobi, Ibingira, Magezi, Lumu, Kirya). A founder cannot by any logic be said to penetrate the organisation. Finally, the "first conspiracy", Mutesa's ordering of arms. No citations or other primary evidence is offered to prove that this is not a rumor. The facts cited themselves are bizarre enough to suggest that it is indeed a rumor. Mutesa, an officer in a British regiment who knew the British system well and had many friends in England, would hardly take the farcical step of writing to the Queen as part of a conspiracy. Again, why bother? Kigongo Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges & Refill Kits for Your Epson at Myinks.com Free shipping on orders $50 or more to the US and Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5705&lp=home/epson.asp http://us.click.yahoo.com/brYXfA/_xWGAA/ySSFAA/XgSolB/TM -~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE*
ugnet_: A woman ahead of her Time.A true Revelation of what Women Emancipation is.
Comment Tuesday, July 22, 2003 Wambui: A woman ahead of her timeBy MACHARIA GAITHO Every once in a while comes along a trail-blazer, a rebel, a person ready to fight the established order to the limit, one not bound to established social and political mores. This is a person not afraid to buck convention and willing and ready to bear the brunt of public ridicule knowing that he or she will be proved right in the end. Out of such stock come the leaders and revolutionaries who ultimately change the world. Virginia Edith Wambui Otieno is of such mettle. By marrying, at 67, a young man no older than some of her grandchildren, Wambui has in one bold stroke not just thrust her way mightily into the headlines, but forced us to confront some of those sensitive issues we prefer not to address. She is not the first elderly, lonely woman in Kenya to look for companionship in a much younger man. But she is the first to defy convention and societal taboo by formalising such a relationship. For Wambui, it was no point being just a sugar mummy maintaining a toy boy in a clandestine relationship. It was easier to simply get married despite all the hullabaloo bound to follow. It was not the first time she was bucking the trend. She is member of what was once of the most prominent and privileged families in central Kenya. Wambui is a granddaughter of the legendary Chief Waiyaki wa Hinga, who reigned over the Dagoretti area near Nairobi in the late 1800s. In 1890, Chief Waiyaki signed a treaty with Frederick Lugard allowing the Imperial British East Africa Company to build a fort at Dagoretti. But unlike many of the pre-colonial chiefs, Waiyaki tried to resist further colonial encroachment and organised a revolt that led to a band of warriors attacking and burning down the fort. He was captured by Imperial troops and taken to Kibwezi where he was buried alive head first as an example to other would-be rebels. Those are the genes Wambui carries. She was still, from a privileged family. One of her brothers went on to become one of the best foreign ministers Kenya has ever had. Another became one of the first African High Court judges in Kenya. When in the 1950s she had the choice of the life of socialite leisure that came with hailing from one of the most "progressive" families around, she chose to immerse herself in the nationalist struggle. She left home to live off her wits in Nairobi, risked her life as a Mau Mau scout, and endured colonial detention. A few months before independence, when she was married to a fresh-faced lawyer just back from studies in India, she was again defying convention she was a Kikuyu. S. M. Otieno was a Luo. That, to many people then, and even today, was like mixing oil and water. To many of Wambui's fellow Kikuyu, she was doing the unthinkable. The Kikuyu and the Luo may have got on pretty well Kenyatta and Odinga-Mboya on the political front, but inter-marriage was almost unheard of. On the cultural level, the Kikuyu and Luo were miles apart. Circumcision was one of the most important rites of passage amongst the Kikuyu. Any man who had not faced "the knife" remained a kihii. Circumcision, of course, meant nothing to the Luo, and it mattered little to Wambui that her love might not be a true man in the eyes of her tribespeople. She loved him. And he was happy enough to take, not her alone, but along with four children from previous liaisons. In time, Wambui and S.M. came to symbolise what was possible in Kenya. He went on to become one of the most successful criminals lawyers. In between her continuing political activism, she played a very important role as a kind of business manager for his law firm. She also brought up a large brood that included, not just her children and her children with S.M., but also a sizeable contingent left behind by a departed friend. Wambui, of course, became best known for the marathon legal tussle after the 1986 death of S.M. Losing that titanic struggle against the Umira Kager clan of her late husband affected her deeply. Maybe much more deeply than is generally known. The case, however, had catapulted her to acres of newspaper coverage across the globe. Eighteen years later, she has made the headlines again. And now we are seeing a truly liberated woman. Well before the swinging Sixties when women from New York, Paris, London, Rome and all the major western cities were burning their restraining bras to symbolise their liberation from male bondage, Wambui had lived the life. When women begun to cry out for sexual freedom, Wambui had already been there. When women were getting together in all manner of pressure groups across the world to fight for their political and social rights, Wambui had all along been exercising her rights with little fanfare. For Wambui, women's liberation is not about making futile noises at useless seminars. It is not about a sterile Maendeleo ya Wanawake or the women's win
ugnet_: Bury exiled leaders in Uganda Obote
Bury exiled leaders in Uganda OboteBy Alex B. AtuhaireJuly 22, 2003 Mr Milton Obote has said that if Idi Amin died, the former President should be buried in Uganda. Obote, who was twice deposed by the military, first in 1971 by Amin, yesterday said in a statement that Ugandans should be lenient to Amin. Should Amins condition worsen, the people of Uganda should be magnanimous enough to accept his proper burial in Uganda despite the fact that he was a dictator, Obote said. According to Obote, Amin, Tito Okello (RIP), Bazilio Okello (RIP) and President Yoweri Museveni have all been used by "imperialists" and have caused suffering in Uganda. It was the two Okellos who overthrew Obote's second government in 1985. Obote's statement said that there is a precedent about a former President who dies in exile.That precedent was set by Idi Amin who arranged for the burial of the first president, Sir Edward Muteesa. Obote said that his UPC government tried to arrange Muteesa's funeral but the Kabaka's relatives and Buganda leaders rejected the offer. Amin knew about the UPC government offer and was actively involved in the preliminary preparations, Obote said. Obote has lived in exile in Zambia since he fled Uganda through Kenya in July 1985. © 2003 The Monitor Publications Gook "You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom."- Malcom X Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*.
Re: ugnet_: Kanyeihamba on the Phantom Arms ofthe1960s, Ibingira andtheConspiracies
He's at his favourite pastime yet again - that of telling lies. Mulindwa, could you please provide me with proof of when I said the following: "Those writers who are not even Ugandans were and are working for Obote and UPC, they are wrong and we must start to write our own History" Failing this, you will have again been exposed for what you are - a pathological liar. Kasangwawo From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"YOSWA DAMBISYA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: ugnet_: Kanyeihamba on the Phantom Arms ofthe1960s, Ibingira and theConspiracies Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 18:55:26 -0400 Netters Some times there is a point where some arguments cause people to wonder. For some time there has been people including my self who have gone out of our way to post some historical facts about Uganda. Why did I personally decide to post them? For we have been told all along that Uganda's problem has been only one person President Obote. But Obote was a president of Uganda that is a fact, but how did he play alone in our history? You see fellas, we have a right to hate leaders, but facts will remain fact always. I will not forget how kasangwawo took the argument a step further and he denounced the Uganda Historical writers, In fact he was attacking Hankock if my memory is right, he stated "Those writers who are not even Ugandans were and are working for Obote and UPC, they are wrong and we must start to write our own History" Then I asked my self where is the brain in that head? You see at every point, any body brings in discussing Uganda issues as related to Buganda, Buganda has never been at fault, and Obote and UPC is always at fault. In fact any body who tries to post any point contrally to the belief of the Buganda supporters the answer comes back "You are working for Obote and UPC" Just how much money does Obote and UPC have to employ all of us? Now here we are with Dambisya posting the writings of Kanyeihamba. Kanyeihamba as by Dambisya's posting is the third person to post the same account. He is a Ugandan and he is not a UPC member. In fact let record show that Kanyeihamba was one of the people who started NRM and that is why he was one of the first people to be appointed by Museveni. Is Kanyeihamba working for UPC and Obote as well? What frustrates in his whole exchange, is that the people who have decided to make their ears deaf, fight for Buganda but with out facts. One has sent me a note that Obote has been doing his politics though violence, please let us have the dates and times, he continues Obote threw out a constitution, Yes but how could obote throw out a constitution with out throwing him self out? For he was a President by that same constitution. Now when the other side brings postings with facts and dates to back them, then the old claim comes up, You are all anti Buganda and you are working for Obote and UPC. Can you imagine if the other side would as well state that you are all working for Ssabasajja Mutebi and you are all against Uganda as a state? We live in very strange days indeed. Don't we Em The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: "YOSWA DAMBISYA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "YOSWA DAMBISYA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 10:20 AM Subject: ugnet_: Kanyeihamba on the Phantom Arms ofthe1960s, Ibingira and theConspiracies Omw Ssemakula, As I await the evidence which you expect me to dispute in defense of Milton Obote and his part in the 1960s developments, I have been reading "Justice Prof Dr GW Kanyeihamba; LLB, LLM, PhD, JSC, SC" 's recently released book: Constitutional and Political History of Uganda: From 1984 to the Present. I found a section on what he refers to as the "Dramatic Years, 1962-1966" and "The Conspiracies" therein particularly relevant to the issue of the phantom arms. I have attempted to reproduce sections of the book for the edification of those who may not have got hold of the book yet. I apologise for any mistakes that I may have made in the process but are willing to correct them as the discussions proceed. The quotes are taken from pages 88-94. "...By 1965, the divisionist and traditionalist elements had penetrated the party, and acquired active supporters within the rank and file of the party followers**. The party was torn by confusion because many of those voices belonged to some of the most influential leaders of the party* After the successful referendum and successful transfer of the two "Lost Counties" to Bunyoro in 1964, the animosity of Buganda towards the Obote government and UPC escalated. Buganda traditionalists at Mengo begun to exploit all possible political angles with
ugnet_: PRESIDENT IDDI AMIN HAS DIED
Netters We are getting very conflicting reports on the state of President Amin's life. By Saturday the Uganda president was announced dead, we got this information again from a reliable source. This death if I may add was as well announced by some Radio Stations in Kampala which might have as well got it from the same source. By Now Toronto Morning we are still getting the same conflicting reports. We have therefore decided to pull this posting untill when we know other wise. Thank you. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: Mulindwa Edward To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Rwanda ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; John Rukumbura Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 6:04 PM Subject: ugnet_: PRESIDENT IDDI AMIN HAS DIED Netters Reliable sources reaching the Communication group are informing us that President Iddi Amin has died in a Jedda Hospital this Sunday. By this posting it is not clear if Uganda Government will allow his body to be flown home for the funeral. May The president of Uganda rest in peace, and may his family find solace at the time of his death. We will post more information as we get it. Em Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
ugnet_: Dr. Obote Speaks: Idi Amin should be buried in Uganda
Bury exiled leaders in Uganda OboteBy Alex B. AtuhaireJuly 22, 2003-Monitor Mr Milton Obote has said that if Idi Amin died, the former President should be buried in Uganda. Obote, who was twice deposed by the military, first in 1971 by Amin, yesterday said in a statement that Ugandans should be lenient to Amin. Should Amins condition worsen, the people of Uganda should be magnanimous enough to accept his proper burial in Uganda despite the fact that he was a dictator, Obote said. According to Obote, Amin, Tito Okello (RIP), Bazilio Okello (RIP) and President Yoweri Museveni have all been used by "imperialists" and have caused suffering in Uganda. It was the two Okellos who overthrew Obote's second government in 1985. Obote's statement said that there is a precedent about a former President who dies in exile.That precedent was set by Idi Amin who arranged for the burial of the first president, Sir Edward Muteesa. Obote said that his UPC government tried to arrange Muteesa's funeral but the Kabaka's relatives and Buganda leaders rejected the offer. Amin knew about the UPC government offer and was actively involved in the preliminary preparations, Obote said. Obote has lived in exile in Zambia since he fled Uganda through Kenya in July 1985. © 2003 The Monitor Publications Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
ugnet_: Madhvani wrong to molest Katookes poor
Madhvani wrong to molest Katookes poor By Yeka Morgan July 22, 2003 Wednesday, July 9 was a black day for the people of Katooke Trading Center in Kakira sub-county, Jinja district. Those who watch television read newspapers, or listen to radios must have seen or heard or read about what happened to the people of Katooke. Houses were bulldozed, people were made homeless, property destroyed and property lost A young man, Ndifuna Ndikabona shed tears as he realised he had lost a suitcase containing his degree transcripts and certificates plus other valuables. People spent three nights under campfire and children could not go to school but played in the dust for three days. It was a mourning period for these Ugandans. The story of Katooke dates back to 1960 when the land was surveyed and gazetted. In 196, 1 30.5 acres was set aside for the trading center. Asian businessmen put up structures in the trading center and traded here. The area developed so far is 6 acres while the rest is actually under illegal cultivation of sugar cane. After the expulsion of the Asians by former president Idi Amin in 1972 the buildings were taken over by the then government but after the enactment of Departed Asians Expropriated Property Act of 1982, Madhvani Group requested to be granted caretaker status of some of the properties (buildings). The company obtained this status from the then prime minister Otema Alimadi (RIP). Kakira Sugar Works started running the properties while levying a Shs 10,000 fee per month, which was meant for minor repairs and welfare. No repairs have ever been done though. This went on up to 1999 when the sugar works, through their lawyers, wrote to the people of Katooke giving notice for eviction and threatened to bulldoze the houses. The people of Katooke, responded by obtaining the services of a lawyer who wrote to Kakira asking them to prove ownership within 10 days. Kakira failed to prove this. The people then approached the district for clarification. The chief administrative officer wrote to the commissioner physical planning in the ministry of lands, Mr Herbert Sekandi, on December 29, 1999. The commissioner replied after investigations and clarified in his letter dated December 30, 1999 that Kakira Sugar Works does not own Katooke. He also advised that the centre be brought under the jurisdiction of Jinja. The Madhvanis were notified of this by Sekandi in a letter dated January 31, 2000. In 2001, Jinja district council resolved under minute DC/85/2001 to value the houses and allocate them to the sitting tenants. After getting a report from the govt valuer the district under minute WH/28/2001 gave lease offers to the People of Katooke. The houses were calued at Shs 1,500,000 each. The sitting tenants applied and were given allocation letters by Mr Buyinza Abdalla, the urban and estates officer of Jinja after paying the initial 30% Of the total value. The balance of money was payable over four years. In the same year there were a series of communications from the general manager Kakira Sugar Works requesting the district to degazette Katooke for sugar cane growing. In August 2002, Buyinza wrote a confirmation of ownership to those who have paid. But then in February 2003 Kakira Sugar Works and the office Jinjas resident district commissioner brought security personnel from the defunct Operation Wembley to Katooke who harassed the local. On March 22, the LCV chairman of Jinja told a meeting of councillors Kakira that he has discovered that Madhvani had got repossession certificates from Custodian Board for the Katooke buildings. On the same day the chairman travelled to Katooke with photocopies of certificates for eight plots (the developed plots were 26.) claiming to have discovered them from Custodian Board in Kampala. The certificates are dated March 21, 2003 and copied to Jinja district council,, On March 24, 2003 Jinja district council passed a
Re: ugnet_: Should Idi Amin Dada be allowed home?
Mwaami Kiribedda If we are to run Uganda that way it means we are going to run it on fact. This will be hard since much of our decisions are based on "Lugambo" Em The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: "Daudi Kiribedda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:10 AM Subject: ugnet_: Should Idi Amin Dada be allowed home? > President, Al-Haji, Ssaalongo, Field Marshall, Dr. Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, > MC, Conqueror of the British Empire should be allowed to go home. > Allegations have been made against him but have yet been proven in a court > of law. Allegations alone should not be used as an excuse to prevent the > man from going back to his country. > > Allegations have also been made against the current Ugandan leader, > Museveni, for killing and maiming people in Luwero, northern Uganda and the > Eastern Democratic Republic of Congo. Should we then in future use those > allegations to punish Museveni? > > Allegations have also been made against President Apollo Milton Obote, but > nothing has ever been proven in a court of law. Obote should also be left > to return to Uganda. > > Anyone with evidence against these three sons of Uganda should open up > charges against each of them in a court of law, present the evidence and let > the courts decide. Until then, these sons of Uganda should be left to go > in and out of their country as they wish. > > For God and my Country > > Daudi Kiribedda > > _ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > >
ugnet_: AN AMERICAN KILLED IN BAGDAD -TEUSDAY
Soldier Killed in Ambush North of Baghdad 7 minutes ago BAGHDAD, Iraq - A U.S. soldier was killed and another wounded Tuesday in an ambush along a dangerous road north of Baghdad in the "Sunni Triangle," the U.S. military reported. Far to the north, a big gun battle broke out when U.S. soldiers surrounded a house in Mosul belonging to a cousin of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites), according to an Associated Press Television News cameraman at the scene. The soldier's death brought to 153 the number of U.S. troops killed in action since the March 20 start of war six more than during the 1991 Gulf War (news - web sites). Central Command in Tampa, Fla., said the attackers used rocket-propelled grenades and small arms in the assault staged along the road between Balad, 50 miles north of Baghdad, and Ramadi, 60 miles west of the capital. Both towns lie within the "Sunni Triangle," so named because it is home to much of the remaining support for ousted dictator Saddam Hussein, a Sunni Muslim who used his Baathist Party to oppress the country's Shiite Muslim majority. The military had no other details on the attack, many of which lately have been staged with remote-controlled roadside explosions. The APTN cameraman in Mosul, 280 miles north of Baghdad, said residents told him the Americans were at the house looking for Saddam's sons, Udai and Qusai. There was no way to confirm that report. The house belonged to a cousin of Saddam who is a key tribal leader in the region. The U.S. military said it was checking the report. The United States has offered a $25 million reward for information leading to Saddam's capture. The reward for his sons, Udai and Qusai, is US$15 million. The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
ugnet_: Coup on Tiny African Islands Felt in Texas Oil Offices
Coup on Tiny African Islands Felt in Texas Oil Offices July 19, 2003 By SIMON ROMERO A coup in the potentially oil-rich archipelago of São Tomé is reverberating in the corporate suites of the energy industry. www.nytimes.com/2003/07/19/business/worldbusiness/19OIL.html?ex=1059650962&ei=1&en=9ee8537a65969343 _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
ugnet_: STOP : Lost of public funds and property
Lost of public funds and property Dfwa-u members are writing and complaining bitterly about the misuse and loss of public funds and property. We are not yet in government but we have the potential to make the problem resolved. DFWA-U understands it quite clear that our country continues to loose huge amounts of money in billions of shilling through dubious and questionable circumstances perpetuated by just a fraction of the population. In due course if we get enough editing tools like computers, dfwa-u is going to correct all data about the problem and we'll use all legal means as a party to seek redress. Our finds shows that public buildings, government residential houses and offices alike have not been spared now facing decay and neglect. Who is responsible for all this if it is not the NRM government? Or why has the government kept quite on these vital matters of national interest threatening the welfare of Uganda citizens? Public vehicles, Uganda Television /Radio Uganda equipment, Office equipment, public funds all are stolen exclusively by both highly placed government officials; from ministers to low civil servants. Taxpayers money should not be wasted on individual self-aggrandisement. The judiciary and the civil police seems to be failing in its endeavour to do their job- partly because these class of people are either protected or compromised by the law. (see www.dfwa-u.tk on the police and judiciary. Dfwa-u realises that some of these mishaps by past and serving civil servants are partly due to government negligence and failure to promptly pay of workers salaries and farmers due. Next the government has so far failed to offer workers and farmers a meaningful socially justified life style; free education, medicare, housing, clothing, transport and insurance. Thirdly the law prosecutes low level workers more often; while highly placed officials with connections in government echelons go free. The government of Uganda has repeatedly failed to prosecute some of these culprits who by the way are well known or know themselves. Or extradite through the International Police (interpol) people who have stolen huge amounts of public money and run off to foreign lands as political refuges: i.e. 350 million shillings, the 1, 6 billion and much more. These groups include past and current civil servants. Yet the same government has sought to extradite genuine political figures with genuine political concerns! The Justice party, dfwa-u has decided therefore to demand that the government of Uganda with immediate effect issue an ultimatum that public funds and property be returned to rightful owners the people of Uganda. That every single government unit, district, sub-county, school, dispensary, hospital or line ministry catalogues all-public property taken either by mistake or stolen deliberately. That all public units must thoroughly catalogues all property on purchase (adress, company name etc) and time of disposal with receipt records kept for a ten consecutive year period. That the full names, past and present address of home/s and work places be clearly stated. That the original and present value of such items be stated very clearly in Uganda shillings. That Uganda Revenue Authority, The Judiciary set up a desk in conjunction with the Uganda police force for the collection of stolen public items and funds. That the people involved in these activities be given a grace period of one to two years to bring back what they stole OR pay in instalments for public property to Uganda Revenue Authority. That those who agree to the above arrangement be considered to have settled the cases out of Uganda courts of law on condition that every shilling or item is returned or in case of items lost the money value is promptly paid to URA. The government must with immediate effect come up with BOOKLETS providing guidelines in the handling and use of public property. These BOOKLETS must be distributed to all civil servant workers with phones and address where they can report misuse of public property and theft of public funds can be reported. The government must set up evaluation and monitoring committees through the existing judicial framework and the civil police on district levels with a clear legal mandate to take action promptly. The government must hold directors or unit officials responsible for loose, misuse and destruction public property. This must be followed with quarterly evaluation; in case of public property Since Justice party, dfwa-u, has been informed by concerned people the citizens of Uganda and its members about such premeditated thefts and misuse of public property and funds in due course dfwa- u will start its own collection of data in this respect for future legal processes. Justice party encourages more information to be sent to them by party confidants into the for loose, misuse and destruction public property. All information will be confidential. Justice
ugnet_: PRESIDENT OBOTE'S STATMENT ABOUT AMIN
UGANDA PEOPLES CONGRESS (Office of the President) 21 July, 2003. To: PPC Chairman Cc: PRC Chairman Cc: Bureaux Abroad Cc: Press IDI AMIN BY A. Milton Obote Idi Amin, like Tito Okello, Bazilio Okello and Yoweri Museveni, was used by imperialist forces and became a military dictator in Uganda. All who have been so used by the imperialists have caused much sufferings to the people of Uganda. News reports that Amin has been in a coma has also been made unreliable by describing his age as 80 years but statements from his close relatives about his health should be accepted. There is a precedent about a Uganda former President who should die away from home and that precedent was set by Idi Amin who arranged for the burial in Uganda of the first President, Sir Edward Mutesa. The UPC Government had offered for the burial of the first President in Uganda but his relatives and Buganda leaders did not accept the offer. Amin knew about the offer by the UPC Government and was actively involved in the preliminary preparations. Should Amins condition worsen, the people of Uganda should be magnanimous enough to accept his proper burial in Uganda despite the fact that he was a dictator. The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
ugnet_: Now Bees to be deployed against Kony!!!
Healers to deploy bees against KonyBy Robert MwanjeJuly 22, 2003-Monitor Traditional healers plan to deploy bees against the Lord's Resistance Army rebel leader, Mr Joseph Kony. The National Council for Traditional Healers and Herbalists Association (Nacotha) has set up a special committee in response to junior Defence minister Ms Ruth Nankabirwas appeal for spiritual support against the rebellion in northern Uganda. Nankabirwa last week said that the government would consider all options to fight the rebels. During their meeting at the Katwe Jubilee Park in Kampala yesterday, the traditional healers said that they would send bees and horrible diseases to destroy the rebels. They would also empower the army with charms. "We are ready to help the UPDF to handle the insecurity in northern Uganda. Using our spiritual powers, we shall send bees to kill the rebels, Mr Karim Musasizi said. Musasizi is the general secretary for Nacotha. The chairman, Mr Kacwano Nabamba, said that 11 spiritually empowered healers were to be deployed against Kony. However, the spirits reportedly want all white people, including UN and Red Cross staff, out of the war zone. The traditional healers said that after they have killed Kony, the government should gazette a special site for a traditional cathedral. © 2003 The Monitor Publications Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
ugnet_: The Great Catfish War
This article and the one I sent yesterday on the US's protectionist trade policies indicate that AGOA, NEPAD, globolization, etc are nothing but smoke-and-mirrors as far as the Third World, especially Africa, is concerned. Africans need to tell the US and the rest of the world in no uncertain terms: unless you open your markets and stop subsidies to your farmers, forget African oil. While this is the only thing the US will understand, the chance of it happening is just a tad less that Africa putting a man on the moon in a month of Sundays... - The Great Catfish War July 22, 2003 The fate of Vietnam's catfish offers a warning to poorer nations who try to play by the big boys' rules in the world trading system. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/22/opinion/22TUE1.html?ex=1059889413&ei=1&en=a054380ed05839f9 ps: To the internet police:- Let's be realistic, federo does not grow in a vacuum, much less in poverty... (Man cannot live on bread alone!) Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE*
ugnet_: Malcom X, Martin King films /videos
JUSTICE PARTY http://www.dfwa-u.tk I am appealing to you or anyone to help me get hold of videos or films about the following figures in their social struggles; Martin Luther King Malcom X Fidel Castro Nation of Islam Cabrol South African struggles Mandela European and missionary films of all types filmed between 1700 -1900 in Africa