Re: ugnet_: Why young women date married men
Anyomokolo, you are a freak indeed ! I was not wondering how AIDS spread so fast, I was just pointing out to you that it is behaviour like yours that caused it. Dumb as you are, you still think that the thin rubber can protect you 100% ! Unknowingly, when you sleep with the married man you are also sleeping with his wife, who (if she is doing the same as her husband) is also sleeping with a lover. You are also sleeping with the regular one on the side who might be sleeping with another woman, who (if she is like you) will have another guy, and so on. Then you chuck the regular one and exchange him with another. And the story goes on. Do you actually realize how many people you are sleeping with (women incl.) ? Freedom, indeed ! Kasangwawo From: Anyomokolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Why young women date married men Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:26:36 -0500 (EST) Jonah, you are responsible for your own carelessness. Stop wondering how AIDS spread so fast and wrap a condom around it. Are you HIV positive? How did you get it? Anyomokolo jonah kasangwawo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and some people still wonder how AIDS spread so fast From: Anyomokolo Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Why young women date married men Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 13:02:34 -0500 (EST) I would chose to date a married man over single/unmarried guy becuase a single man would always want to control, dominate and own me. A married man is already controlling his wife. I don't want any man to control my life and freedom. Unlike these Makerere students, I have my own money and will never trade my freedom with $$$. I can have a married man and another, a regular one, on the side if I choose to. If the regular one begin to control my freedom, I will chuck him immediately. The married one will always be around while I look for another regular. So, to conclude, for me, a married man is a complete package. I can get what I want and maintain my freedom. I don't know about other women but my freedom is very important. My freedom is very important. Very important. Actually it is the reason I can't get married. Anyomokolo Owor Kipenji wrote: Why young women date married men By Muhwezi G. Bonge Jan 2 - 8, 2004 Most people including my self must be wondering why that cute lady that any man would love to have as his own is comfortably engrossed in the arms of a married man. Why she risks being found out by the wife of the man she is dating? It's much more than you think so let's take time to reflect on what that married man has that a bachelor doesn't. Faridah Nabagereka acting as Ashiraf Ssemwogerere's girlfriend in Gawandagala, Bat Valley theatre (Photo by Willy Tamale).Some ladies confess that usually married men can't admit that they are married but she later finds out when she has already given too much to leave him. There is a lot that ladies find in married men than you can imagine. Most ladies confess that they date married because married men give them security. Does this mean that youthful guys can't provide that security? The argument here is that although she knows he is married, she can count on him to be responsible and maintain her and his wife. When a woman is dating a married man, she does not have to worry about cheating after all the whole relationship is based on cheating. So she does it for fun. Usually a married man is mature and cares for her feelings more than the youthful men. For example when a married man takes her out he does those 'small' things that really count like opening the door for her to sit, pulling the chair for her and even calling her after the date to know if she is feeling fine. More to that, women confess that married men are sincere and gentle. So guys take heed, if you think by not giving your all or by not showing your weaknesses, you are being a man. Wake up, you are missing the point. Married men usually have that financial superiority which sometimes, youthful men don't have and even if he is doing well financially, he can't take care of all her needs. Cynthia a second year student at Makerere university admits that she is currently dating a married man so that he takes care of her needs like food, airtime, service fee, mention it, but still maintains her boyfriend who completed last year and is working right now. Why is it that she doesn't ask such things from her boyfriend? She argues that she feels that she is exploiting someone she loves and more to that, her boy friend has to work for their future. Then why exploit the married man? She feels he is also exploiting her, so it is a situation of mutual exploitation. Asked if her boyfriend finds out? She says she plays her cards so well that even if she receives a call from the 'big daddy' when she is with her boyfriend she has to divert the conversation to become neutral so that her boyfriend can't suspect anything.
ugnet_: How widespread is hypocricy among us Catholics?
How widespread is hypocricy among us Catholics? ~ Over a decade ago, at the start of AIDS in Uganda Kenya and Zambia, an Irish nun, The Rev. Sister Mary McDonald - a Medical Doctor, wrote a report based in the context of AIDS, about Catholic Bishops in an un-disclosed AIDS infested African country, who had gone way overboard with fornication, sex with underage girls, impregnating nuns, illegal abortions etc (One Bishop is reported to have impregnated 24 nuns, with one nun dying on him during a back alley abortion, according to the same Sister Mary McDonald MD). This report, if you remember, was suppressed by the cabal that really runs the Catholic church in Rome i.e. 'Opus Dei', and Sister McDonald was banished back to Ireland and gagged. Is that suprising if one considers the likes of the Belgian head of the catholic church who was asking the court there to allow him to stand in dock for all the pedophile clergy there, arguing that going after them individually would take the court more than fifty years? The catholic church is schizophrenic about sex. Here in Canada a whole monastry, Mount St Cashell, had to be demolished by the Canadian govt after it had been found to have been used by priests to sodomize kids. This sodomy had lasted more than 50 years; and the church has not yet fully compensated the victims!! Infamous Mount St Cashell had become such a place of pain, shame and evil that it really had to be erased from the face of the earth. Don't get me wrong. St. Marys College Kisubi is a very decent place where nobody has ever been known to suffer practices like those of Canada's Mount St Cashell. But still, the schizophrenia about sex exists there too. I hope fellow Kisubi OB's and fellow Catholics will not roast me alive when I refer to these dark 'secrets' !! ~ Weddings at Ntare; starvation in Kisubi School Times By Simon Kasyate Jan 12 - 18, 2004 OK guys let us begin like this; for my O-level, I was in a liberal school where limits were but in your head (wherever your conscience instructed you to stop was where the school fence ended) and preps were optional. But it was a rude cultural shock when at A- level; I was faced with the realities of being in a single sex, catholic school. It was my dream school because of the academic prestige. Passing through this school was a passport to celebrity. But blind I was after noticing the social deficit this college suffered. I mean, moving out of school at SMACK as St. Marys College Kisubi is known, be it for a small drink, dance, dinner and whatever was so feared that the mere thought of it would plunge you into panic before one of the Brothers reads your mind. The situation here was near the opposite of what I had left at Ntare School. Mbarara town was more like part of Ntare school because, on a daily basis, whether during exams or not, there was always a beeline of students headed to and fro town. Chances of meeting a teaching or non-teaching staff was 100% but what the heck-never heard of anyone expelled for being in town in broad day light. For many of us, flocking club Vision Empire was part of the prep menu every Friday. Saturday mornings found us nursing hangover in town with that badly needed plate of Katogo. Being a staunch catholic in love with Victorian hymns, Martyrs cathedral was the place to be by 10 oclock Sunday morning. Going to these places without permission was illegal, but we made it so easy that occasionally we even attended town wedding receptions and other bashes. Come SMACK and lo! The well tended lawns punctuated with palm trees, tarmac and sparkling white buildings not withstanding, I could not believe that unless there was such a cause as burial of an immediate relative or acute health complications; there was no way out of the gate. Attempting to do so was just as sacrilegious as executing the act, and the penalty when grabbed was nothing short of an expulsion embedded in a suspension. You would be suspended for two weeks or slightly more, with a command to return with your parent(s) or guardian only for them to be handed the expulsion/indefinite suspension letter. For me, threats of expulsion really worked. I could not imagine myself before the domestic lioness (read Mummy), brown envelope in hand containing the bizarre news of my expulsion, how? So throughout my two-year tenure at this college, I suppressed the animal instinct of free range roaming. As a pass time, boys who joined SMACK from Ntare, narrated our escapades, some too wicked for the humble imagination of an indigenous SMACK lad. You wont believe it, but during third term, one would most likely never set eye on a female except female teachers, cooks, secretaries, nuns and other staff. No new faces. Ha! And if by some stroke of luck some female graced the high road to the
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Re: ugnet_: How widespread is hypocricy among us Catholics?
All it takes is one boy, now a grown man, from Kisubi college to come out and admit that he was molested by catholic priests and the rest will follow. Right now we are so culturally supressed and it is the reason catholic faggots, some retarded stupid believers call them 'flipping' priest, molest little boys because they know the culture forbids them from discussing it openly. No wonder there are too many baganda faggots in Kampala. Mitayo Potosi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How widespread is hypocricy among us Catholics?~Over a decade ago, at the start of AIDS in Uganda Kenya and Zambia, an Irish nun, The Rev. Sister Mary McDonald - a Medical Doctor, wrote a report based in the context of AIDS, about Catholic Bishops in an un-disclosed AIDS infested African country, who had gone way overboard with fornication, sex with underage girls, impregnating nuns, illegal abortions etc (One Bishop is reported to have impregnated 24 nuns, with one nun dying on him during a back alley abortion, according to the same Sister Mary McDonald MD).This report, if you remember, was suppressed by the cabal that really runs the Catholic church in Rome i.e. 'Opus Dei', and Sister McDonald was banished back to Ireland and gagged.Is that suprising if one considers the likes of the Belgian head of the catholic church who was asking the court there to allow him to stand in dock for all the pedophile clergy there, arguing that going after them individually would take the court more than fifty years?The catholic church is schizophrenic about sex.Here in Canada a whole monastry, Mount St Cashell, had to be demolished by the Canadian govt after it had been found to have been used by priests to sodomize kids. This sodomy had lasted more than 50 years; and the church has not yet fully compensated the victims!!Infamous Mount St Cashell had become such a place of pain, shame and evil that it really had to be erased from the face of the earth.Don't get me wrong.St. Marys College Kisubi is a very decent place where nobody has ever been known to suffer practices like those of Canada's Mount St Cashell. But still, the schizophrenia about sex exists there too.I hope fellow Kisubi OB 's and fellow Catholics will not roast me alive when I refer to these dark 'secrets' !!~Weddings at Ntare; starvation in KisubiSchool Times By Simon KasyateJan 12 - 18, 2004OK guys let us begin like this; for my O-level, I was in a liberal school where limits were but in your head (wherever your conscience instructed you to stop was where the school fence ended) and preps were optional.But it was a rude cultural shock when at A- level; I was faced with the realities of being in a single sex, catholic school.It was my dream school because of the academic prestige. Passing through this school was a passport to celebrity.But blind I was after noticing the social deficit this college suffered. I mean, moving out of school at SMACK as St. Marys College Kisubi is known, be it for a small drink, dance, dinner and whatever was so feared that the < BR>mere thought of it would plunge you into panic before one of the Brothers reads your mind.The situation here was near the opposite of what I had left at Ntare School.Mbarara town was more like part of Ntare school because, on a daily basis, whether during exams or not, there was always a beeline of students headed to and fro town.Chances of meeting a teaching or non-teaching staff was 100% but what the heck-never heard of anyone expelled for being in town in broad day light.For many of us, flocking club Vision Empire was part of the prep menu every Friday. Saturday mornings found us nursing hangover in town with that badly needed plate of Katogo.Being a staunch catholic in love with Victorian hymns, Martyrs cathedral was the place to be by 10 oclock Sunday morning.Going to these places without permission was illegal, but we made it so easy that occasionally we even attended town wedding receptions and other bashes. Come SMACK and lo!The well tended lawns punctuated with palm trees, tarmac and sparkling white buildings not withstanding, I could not believe that unless there was such a cause as burial of an immediate relative or acute health complications; there was no way out of the gate.Attempting to do so was just as sacrilegious as executing the act, and the penalty when grabbed was nothing short of an expulsion embedded in a suspension.You would be suspended for two weeks or slightly more, with a command to return with your parent(s) or guardian only for them to be handed the expulsion/indefinite suspension letter. For me, threats of expulsion really worked.I could not imagine myself before the domestic lioness (read Mummy), brown envelope in hand containing the bizarre news of my expulsion, how?So throughout my two-year tenure at this college, I suppressed the animal instinct of free range roaming.As a
Re: ugnet_: How widespread is hypocricy among us Catholics?
Dear Sofie, You write: No wonder there are too many baganda faggots in Kampala Kisubi College is not for Baganda only. I have never known you to take such a narrow line, and have always respected you for that. Don't start now, please!! Mitayo Potosi From: Anyomokolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: How widespread is hypocricy among us Catholics? Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 18:29:14 -0500 (EST) All it takes is one boy, now a grown man, from Kisubi college to come out and admit that he was molested by catholic priests and the rest will follow. Right now we are so culturally supressed and it is the reason catholic faggots, some retarded stupid believers call them 'flipping' priest, molest little boys because they know the culture forbids them from discussing it openly. No wonder there are too many baganda faggots in Kampala. Mitayo Potosi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How widespread is hypocricy among us Catholics? ~ Over a decade ago, at the start of AIDS in Uganda Kenya and Zambia, an Irish nun, The Rev. Sister Mary McDonald - a Medical Doctor, wrote a report based in the context of AIDS, about Catholic Bishops in an un-disclosed AIDS infested African country, who had gone way overboard with fornication, sex with underage girls, impregnating nuns, illegal abortions etc (One Bishop is reported to have impregnated 24 nuns, with one nun dying on him during a back alley abortion, according to the same Sister Mary McDonald MD). This report, if you remember, was suppressed by the cabal that really runs the Catholic church in Rome i.e. 'Opus Dei', and Sister McDonald was banished back to Ireland and gagged. Is that suprising if one considers the likes of the Belgian head of the catholic church who was asking the court there to allow him to stand in dock for all the pedophile clergy there, arguing that going after them individually would take the court more than fifty years? The catholic church is schizophrenic about sex. Here in Canada a whole monastry, Mount St Cashell, had to be demolished by the Canadian govt after it had been found to have been used by priests to sodomize kids. This sodomy had lasted more than 50 years; and the church has not yet fully compensated the victims!! Infamous Mount St Cashell had become such a place of pain, shame and evil that it really had to be erased from the face of the earth. Don't get me wrong. St. Marys College Kisubi is a very decent place where nobody has ever been known to suffer practices like those of Canada's Mount St Cashell. But still, the schizophrenia about sex exists there too. I hope fellow Kisubi OB's and fellow Catholics will not roast me alive when I refer to these dark 'secrets' !! ~ Weddings at Ntare; starvation in Kisubi School Times By Simon Kasyate Jan 12 - 18, 2004 OK guys let us begin like this; for my O-level, I was in a liberal school where limits were but in your head (wherever your conscience instructed you to stop was where the school fence ended) and preps were optional. But it was a rude cultural shock when at A- level; I was faced with the realities of being in a single sex, catholic school. It was my dream school because of the academic prestige. Passing through this school was a passport to celebrity. But blind I was after noticing the social deficit this college suffered. I mean, moving out of school at SMACK as St. Marys College Kisubi is known, be it for a small drink, dance, dinner and whatever was so feared that the mere thought of it would plunge you into panic before one of the Brothers reads your mind. The situation here was near the opposite of what I had left at Ntare School. Mbarara town was more like part of Ntare school because, on a daily basis, whether during exams or not, there was always a beeline of students headed to and fro town. Chances of meeting a teaching or non-teaching staff was 100% but what the heck-never heard of anyone expelled for being in town in broad day light. For many of us, flocking club Vision Empire was part of the prep menu every Friday. Saturday mornings found us nursing hangover in town with that badly needed plate of Katogo. Being a staunch catholic in love with Victorian hymns, Martyrs cathedral was the place to be by 10 oclock Sunday morning. Going to these places without permission was illegal, but we made it so easy that occasionally we even attended town wedding receptions and other bashes. Come SMACK and lo! The well tended lawns punctuated with palm trees, tarmac and sparkling white buildings not withstanding, I could not believe that unless there was such a cause as burial of an immediate relative or acute health complications; there was no way out of the gate. Attempting to do so was just as sacrilegious as executing the act, and the penalty when grabbed was nothing short of an expulsion embedded in a
ugnet_: Bush Sought Way To Invade Iraq?
Bush Sought Way To Invade Iraq? By CBS News Sunday 11 January 2004 Iraq War Planned Pre-9/11? A year ago, Paul O'Neill was fired from his job as George Bush's Treasury Secretary for disagreeing too many times with the president's policy on tax cuts. Now, O'Neill - who is known for speaking his mind - talks for the first time about his two years inside the Bush administration. His story is the centerpiece of a new book being published this week about the way the Bush White House is run. Entitled The Price of Loyalty, the book by a former Wall Street Journal reporter draws on interviews with high-level officials who gave the author their personal accounts of meetings with the president, their notes and documents. But the main source of the book was Paul O'Neill. Correspondent Lesley Stahl reports. Paul O'Neill says he is going public because he thinks the Bush Administration has been too secretive about how decisions have been made. Will this be seen as a kiss-and-tell book? I've come to believe that people will say damn near anything, so I'm sure somebody will say all of that and more, says ONeill, who was George Bush's top economic policy official. In the book, ONeill says that the president did not make decisions in a methodical way: there was no free-flow of ideas or open debate. At cabinet meetings, he says the president was like a blind man in a roomful of deaf people. There is no discernible connection, forcing top officials to act on little more than hunches about what the president might think. This is what O'Neill says happened at his first hour-long, one-on-one meeting with Mr. Bush: I went in with a long list of things to talk about, and I thought to engage on and as the book says, I was surprised that it turned out me talking, and the president just listening As I recall, it was mostly a monologue. He also says that President Bush was disengaged, at least on domestic issues, and that disturbed him. And he says that wasn't his experience when he worked as a top official under Presidents Nixon and Ford, or the way he ran things when he was chairman of Alcoa. O'Neill readily agreed to tell his story to the book's author Ron Suskind and he adds that he's taking no money for his part in the book. Suskind says he interviewed hundreds of people for the book including several cabinet members. O'Neill is the only one who spoke on the record, but Suskind says that someone high up in the administration Donald Rumsfeld - warned ONeill not to do this book. Was it a warning, or a threat? I don't think so. I think it was the White House concerned, says Suskind. Understandably, because O'Neill has spent extraordinary amounts of time with the president. They said, This could really be the one moment where things are revealed. Not only did O'Neill give Suskind his time, he gave him 19,000 internal documents. Everything's there: Memoranda to the President, handwritten thank you notes, 100-page documents. Stuff that's sensitive, says Suskind, adding that in some cases, it included transcripts of private, high-level National Security Council meetings. You dont get higher than that. And what happened at President Bush's very first National Security Council meeting is one of O'Neill's most startling revelations. From the very beginning, there was a conviction, that Saddam Hussein was a bad person and that he needed to go, says ONeill, who adds that going after Saddam was topic A 10 days after the inauguration - eight months before Sept. 11. From the very first instance, it was about Iraq. It was about what we can do to change this regime, says Suskind. Day one, these things were laid and sealed. As treasury secretary, O'Neill was a permanent member of the National Security Council. He says in the book he was surprised at the meeting that questions such as Why Saddam? and Why now? were never asked. It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying Go find me a way to do this, says ONeill. For me, the notion of pre-emption, that the U.S. has the unilateral right to do whatever we decide to do, is a really huge leap. And that came up at this first meeting, says ONeill, who adds that the discussion of Iraq continued at the next National Security Council meeting two days later. He got briefing materials under this cover sheet. There are memos. One of them marked, secret, says, Plan for post-Saddam Iraq, adds Suskind, who says that they discussed an occupation of Iraq in January and February of 2001. Based on his interviews with O'Neill and several other officials at the meetings, Suskind writes that the planning envisioned peacekeeping troops, war crimes tribunals, and even divvying up Iraq's oil wealth. He obtained one Pentagon document, dated March
ugnet_: The Lies for War Unravel
The Lies for War Unravel By William Rivers Pitt t r u t h o u t | Perspective Monday 12 January 2004 Air Force Lt. Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski wore the uniform of the United States military for most of her adult life. In the last few years, until her retirement last April after 20 years of service, she has watched the infrastructure of American foreign policy creation rot from the inside out. Her view was not from the cheap seats, from some faraway vantage point, but from the hallways where the cancer walked and talked. Lt. Colonel Kwiatkowski worked in the same Defense Department offices where the cadre of hawkish neoconservatives that came in with George W. Bush trashed America's reputation, denigrated her fellow soldiers, and recreated the processes of government into a contra-constitutional laughingstock. My personal experience leaning precariously toward the neoconservative maw showed me that their philosophy remains remarkably untouched by respect for real liberty, justice, and American values, Kwiatkowski writes in the January 19 edition of The American Conservative magazine. I was present at a staff meeting when Deputy Undersecretary Bill Luti called General Zinni a traitor. At another time, I discussed with a political appointee the service being rendered by Colin Powell in the early winter and was told the best service he could offer would be to quit. I heard in another staff meeting a derogatory story about a little Tommy Fargo who was acting up. Little Tommy was, of course, Commander, Pacific Forces, Admiral Fargo. Kwiatkowski saw these people, and their work within the Office of Special Plans, up close and personal, and has been raising alarms about it for nearly a year. The Office of Special Plans, or OSP, was a Pentagon planning group directed by Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith, who was the department's No. 3 official. The OSP was staffed by the hawkish neoconservatives Kwiatkowski describes in her American Conservative editorial, men who had advocated using the American military to overthrow Saddam long before they came to work for Feith. The day-to-day boss of OSP was William Luti, a former Navy officer who worked for Vice President Dick Cheney before joining the Pentagon. The work of the OSP was, at bottom, to cherry-pick data from intelligence reports to justify an attack on Iraq. Back in August of 2003, Kwiatkowski wrote, What I saw was aberrant, pervasive and contrary to good order and discipline. If one is seeking the answers to why peculiar bits of 'intelligence' found sanctity in a presidential speech, or why the post-Saddam (Hussein) occupation (in Iraq) has been distinguished by confusion and false steps, one need look no further than the process inside the Office of the Secretary of Defense. She described the work of the OSP in particular as, a subversion of constitutional limits on executive power and a co-optation through deceit of a large segment of the Congress. Kwiatkowski claims, in short, that a decision to go to war had been made long before, and that these men at the OSP were fashioning justifications for that decision on the fly, and despite overwhelming evidence to suggest that war was not necessary. Lt. Colonel Kwiatkowski was not the only one watching the immediate desire for war in Iraq within the ranks of the Bush administration. Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill, who lost his job because he dared question the efficacy of giving massive tax cuts to rich people, has stepped forward with some truly remarkable revelations about the way business is done at 1600 Pennsylvania. O'Neill describes the process of decision-making between Bush and his people as being like a blind man in a roomful of deaf people. This is not a comforting image when one imagines the deliberations of the most powerful people in the world. Yet the blind and the deaf, according to O'Neill and the 19,000 pages of memos, documents and private National Security briefings he has in his possession, were also adept liars. Pulitzer prizewinning journalist Ron Suskind has captured O'Neill's views in a new book titled 'The Price of Loyalty.' From the very first instance, it was about Iraq, says Suskind about his interviews with O'Neill and his review of the documentary evidence. It was about what we can do to change this regime. Day one, these things were laid and sealed. Suskind got his hands on one Pentagon document, dated March 5, 2001. The document was titled 'Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield contracts,' and included a map of potential areas for exploration. It talks about contractors around the world from, you know, 30-40 countries, says Suskind, and which ones have what intentions on oil in Iraq. O'Neill was afforded a position on the National Security Council because of his job as Treasury Secretary, and sat in on the Iraq invasion planning sessions. It was all
