[Ugnet] LRA rebels attack Gulu

2005-04-10 Thread Matek Opoko







LRA rebels attack Gulu   

By Oketch Bitek 


GULU — Ms Faith Aber, 15, a student of Gulu High School, was among the nine people abducted on Sunday morning when rebels of the Lord’s Resistance Army headed by Joseph Kony (R) attacked the municipality. 
The rebels raided Negri village in Bar-dege Division, about three and half kilometres north west of Gulu town centre. They abducted Dominic Okwonga, 30, Gaudensio Oryem, 30, and Paul Omarorwot, 34.
Others taken captive included Peter Olanya, 39, Francis Onen , Wilson Opiyo , Ocan Cons, Faith Aber and Bosco Oryem, 16.About 12 rebels attacked the village after midnight.They stormed a village party and quietly picked people. UPDF soldiers were on guard at the nearby Negri College and Primary School.The rebels looted bags of relief food items from the villagers, tied the captives with ropes and matched away.
The UPDF soldiers responded quickly and rescued all the captives. The UPDF also captured most of the looted food items.By the time The Monitor visited the affected area, villagers had gathered. They said the government should establish an army detach nearby to avert future attacks. They said in just one month, the rebels had attacked the village four times.
The 4th Division Commanding Officer, Col. Nathan Mugisha, Intelligence Officer Capt. Mike Kisami, and the Regional Spokesman, Lt. Kiconco Tabaro, visited the village early in the morning.
Mugisha said he was unhappy that rebel forces keep coming to the same place despite heavy deployment of troops in the area.
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[Ugnet] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE RWANDA TRAGEDY

2005-04-10 Thread Mitayo Potosi
Comrade Remegio Kintu,
Thank you for your report to the Rwanda Tribunal.
It is a fantastic piece of work but still in the form of draft. It could be 
polished and expanded into a book.

i.e. You lumped Chile's Salvador Allende with murderers. Maybe you meant 
Pinochet.

Things like those show that it is still a draft. This is not to put it down, 
though!!

So even 2nd generation Tutsis, born in Uganda, (Ugandans for all intents and 
purposes) took part in the invasion. They lived among us like the snakes, or 
soldiers of the Trojan horse.

The HM at Kabwoko. Is that the fellow in the early 1970?
Finally, careful and thorough research is assumed regarding all these people 
and their nationalities. We would hate to tarnish the name of any bona fide 
innocent Ugandan.

Thank you.
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[Ugnet] NOT ZIMBABWE BUT UNITED STATES

2005-04-10 Thread Edward Mulindwa




Teachers and Classmates Express Outrage at 
Arrest of Girl, 16, as a Terrorist ThreatBy 
Nina Bernstein
Saturday 09 April 2005
At Heritage High School in East Harlem, where the 
student idiom is hip-hop and salsa, the 16-year-old Guinean girl stood out, but 
not just because she wore Islamic dress. She was so well liked that when she ran 
for student body president, she came in second to one of her best friends - the 
Christian daughter of the president of the parent-teacher association, Deleen P. 
Carr. 
Now Ms. Carr, a speech pathologist who calls herself 
"a typical American citizen," is as outraged as the girl's teachers and 
classmates, who have learned that the girl and another 16-year-old are being 
called would-be suicide bombers and are being held in an immigration detention 
center in Pennsylvania.
"They have painted this picture of her as this person 
that is trying to destroy our way of life, and I know in my heart of hearts that 
this is bogus," said Ms. Carr, who welcomed the Guinean girl to her house daily 
and knows her family well. "I feel like, how dare they? She's a minor, and even 
if she's not a citizen, she has rights as a human being."
According to a government document provided to The 
New York Times by a federal official earlier this week, the Federal Bureau of 
Investigation has asserted that both girls are "an imminent threat to the 
security of the United States based on evidence that they plan to be suicide 
bombers." No evidence was cited, and federal officials will not comment on the 
case.
Its mysteries deepened as teachers and neighbors gave 
details of the Guinean girl's life, like the jeans she wore under her Muslim 
garb, her lively classroom curiosity about topics like Judaism and art and her 
after-school care for four younger siblings while her parents, illegal 
immigrants who have lived in the United States since 1990, eked out a living. 

"I just can't fathom this," said her art teacher, 
Kimberly Lane, who has repeatedly called the youth detention center but like Ms. 
Carr was not allowed to speak to the girl, who has no lawyer. Among the 
unanswered questions they raised was why, if she was really a suspect, no F.B.I. 
agent had shown up to search her school locker or question her classmates, who 
sent her letters of support. 
"This is a girl who's been in this country since she 
was 2 years old," Ms. Lane said. "She's just a regular teenager - like, two 
weeks ago her biggest worry was whether she'd done her homework or studied for a 
science test."
Until now, attention has focused on the other 
16-year-old, a Bangladeshi girl reared in Queens who could not deal with the 
hurly-burly of her West Side high school and withdrew into home schooling. 
Yesterday, on a motion of the government, an immigration judge closed the 
Bangladeshi girl's bond hearing to the public and adjourned it to next Thursday, 
said Troy Mattes, a lawyer who is taking over the case but has yet to meet her. 

By the Bangladeshi girl's account, reported by her 
mother, the girls did not meet until March 24, after their separate arrests in 
early-morning raids on immigration charges against their parents. Both grew up 
in Islamic families. But while the Bangladeshi girl had grown increasingly 
pious, and uncomfortable in the urban culture of the High School of 
Environmental Studies on West 56th Street, the Guinean girl, a 10th grader, 
embraced every aspect of Heritage High, at 106th Street and Lexington Avenue, 
her teachers said.
"She is, yes, an orthodox Muslim, but completely 
integrated into this school," said Jessica Siegel, her English teacher in a 
class in which topics like teenage pregnancy and world politics were discussed. 
Ms. Siegel was profiled in the book "Small Victories," by Samuel G. Freedman, as 
an unsentimental, but fiercely committed teacher who provoked and delighted her 
students.
"She's a wonderful, wonderful girl," Ms. Siegel said. 
"She's about the last person anyone could imagine being a suicide bomber."
The English teacher's most vivid recollection was of 
a day two months ago when she heard a kind of roar in the hallway of the school, 
which is full of colorful student collages and life-size sculptures in 
papier-mâché. The teenager had stopped wearing her veil, and she beamed as her 
fellow students, seeing her face for the first time, cheered. 
After the class read "Night," the Holocaust memoir by 
Elie Wiesel, the girl wrote a paper about genocide in the Sudan, she recalled. 
But she was so excited about a field trip to see Christo's "Gates" in Central 
Park, Ms. Siegel said, that she skipped an appointment at immigration - a 
teenage impulse the teacher now worries might have set off problems with federal 
authorities. Her father is now in immigration jail facing deportation.
At Woodrow Wilson Houses a few blocks from the 
school, a sticker on the family's apartment door reads, "Allah is

Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC

2005-04-10 Thread Edward Mulindwa
First of all no one defects to movement because all Ugandans are 
Movementists. Isn't that the old school of thoughts? Secondly I have lived 
here long enough to know the American system of it is okay we will take him 
to a trial then we will kill him. Third, how has Rwakasiisi's being in jail 
this long changed Uganda for better?

No wonder you have no name for it all makes sense to you including the 
murdering of Haji Musa Ssebirumbi, a man who was clearly very sick and 
disabled.

Again I insist Uganda is a ZOO let us just learn to move on with out it for 
this kind of reasoning just baffles me.

Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
   Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC

Mw. Mulindwa,
One thing that we seem to agree on here is that we want Obote like anyone 
else
who thinks it is not a "zoo" to get back to Uganda if they so with. The
disagreement is the on whether or not there should be a blanket amnesty. I 
say
no amnesty to Dr. Obote or anybody else who may have been responsible for 
any
killings in Uganda. No one is about to drag any of them to prison before a
hearing. They will have to earn their places there if they can not defend
themselves.

Fortunately Dr. Obote is so popular that Mukono (Never mind the massive
defection to the Mvnt there) has raised 25 cows for his welcome. Such a 
person
should not find it hard to get back and correct the wrong impression that 
has
been created about him.

Yes there some former Obote ministers in government and nothing has been 
done
about them, but lets also remind ourselves that there others like Rwakasisi 
who
are in Luzira. Dr. Obote could just turn out to be like those who are 
innocent
enough to be appointed ministers in Museveni's regime.


Quoting Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
And if Obote decides not to come back to Uganda? Then it is okay?  What
happened to critical thinking? So all ministers in that government who
are
in Uganda and some who are working in NRM all UNLA officers in Uganda
today
does not matter you just need Obote to tell you how he killed Ugandans
in
Luwero? No wonder NRM is starting to set terms of Obote's return because
they are now knowing how Ugandans love Obote.
And it is amazing that just last night I talked to a Ugandan at length
regarding this return, and she said these words and I quote "No Obote
can
come back for we have tried our best to kill all UPCs so no problem he
can
show up no one cares" end quote. Umm well Mukono only has so far raised
25
cows, what does that tell you about the man and about what Ugandans feel
about him?.
Uganda is a ZOO indeed and Museveni is a zoo keeper, guys stay there I
will
stay here.
Em
Toronto
 The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC

Mr. Mulindwa,
It is a pity it took you a lot of trouble to get the real cause of
Kabaka's
death. He was dead and trying to get an answer from him would not have
been
very easy.
In this case however, Dr. Obote is alive and can talk for himself,
fortunately
he is endowed with an abundant ability to convince even the doubting
ones
like
me. He can surely get back to Uganda and convince us that it was not him
but
President Museveni who was responsible for the killings in NOT ONLY
Luwero
but
other parts of the country as well.
Some of us would have been willing to listen to his side of the story
even
20
yrs ago. I'm sure, then just like now, he would get a judge and general
public
to listen to his side of the story. He just wasn't there to give it. Now
that
he is going back to Uganda, why do you want to deny as the opportunity
to
listen to his side of the story? It is not just now that we are
getting
interested in it. As to why the Movement is interested in it now, may be
the
answer can best be got from Mr. Opondo, the movement spokesperson.
Mr. Mulindwa, would rather, that Dr. Obote comes back and no questions
are
asked and therefore all off us remain guessing who was responsible for
all
the
deaths during his regime? Some of us would like to set a precedence that
will
see even President Museveni held responsible for any wrongs committed
while
he
was in power. We will have to moral authority to demand for that if we
cannot
demand for it from Dr. Obote now.
Nice day.
Quoting Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Ever since Obote left power, why haven't these questions been asked?
Did
> you
> really wait for his coming back to Uganda to ask these things? And
why
> has
> The Movement  taken 20 years witho

Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC

2005-04-10 Thread s22294822
Mw. Mulindwa, 
One thing that we seem to agree on here is that we want Obote like anyone else 
who thinks it is not a "zoo" to get back to Uganda if they so with. The 
disagreement is the on whether or not there should be a blanket amnesty. I say 
no amnesty to Dr. Obote or anybody else who may have been responsible for any 
killings in Uganda. No one is about to drag any of them to prison before a 
hearing. They will have to earn their places there if they can not defend 
themselves.

Fortunately Dr. Obote is so popular that Mukono (Never mind the massive 
defection to the Mvnt there) has raised 25 cows for his welcome. Such a person 
should not find it hard to get back and correct the wrong impression that has 
been created about him.

Yes there some former Obote ministers in government and nothing has been done 
about them, but lets also remind ourselves that there others like Rwakasisi who 
are in Luzira. Dr. Obote could just turn out to be like those who are innocent 
enough to be appointed ministers in Museveni's regime.



Quoting Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> And if Obote decides not to come back to Uganda? Then it is okay?  What
> 
> happened to critical thinking? So all ministers in that government who
> are 
> in Uganda and some who are working in NRM all UNLA officers in Uganda
> today 
> does not matter you just need Obote to tell you how he killed Ugandans
> in 
> Luwero? No wonder NRM is starting to set terms of Obote's return because
> 
> they are now knowing how Ugandans love Obote.
> 
> And it is amazing that just last night I talked to a Ugandan at length
> 
> regarding this return, and she said these words and I quote "No Obote
> can 
> come back for we have tried our best to kill all UPCs so no problem he
> can 
> show up no one cares" end quote. Umm well Mukono only has so far raised
> 25 
> cows, what does that tell you about the man and about what Ugandans feel
> 
> about him?.
> 
> Uganda is a ZOO indeed and Museveni is a zoo keeper, guys stay there I
> will 
> stay here.
> 
> Em
> Toronto
>  The Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 3:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC
> 
> 
> Mr. Mulindwa,
> It is a pity it took you a lot of trouble to get the real cause of
> Kabaka's
> death. He was dead and trying to get an answer from him would not have
> been
> very easy.
> 
> In this case however, Dr. Obote is alive and can talk for himself, 
> fortunately
> he is endowed with an abundant ability to convince even the doubting
> ones 
> like
> me. He can surely get back to Uganda and convince us that it was not him
> but
> President Museveni who was responsible for the killings in NOT ONLY
> Luwero 
> but
> other parts of the country as well.
> 
> Some of us would have been willing to listen to his side of the story
> even 
> 20
> yrs ago. I'm sure, then just like now, he would get a judge and general
> 
> public
> to listen to his side of the story. He just wasn't there to give it. Now
> 
> that
> he is going back to Uganda, why do you want to deny as the opportunity
> to
> listen to his side of the story? It is not just now that we are
> getting
> interested in it. As to why the Movement is interested in it now, may be
> the
> answer can best be got from Mr. Opondo, the movement spokesperson.
> 
> Mr. Mulindwa, would rather, that Dr. Obote comes back and no questions
> are
> asked and therefore all off us remain guessing who was responsible for
> all 
> the
> deaths during his regime? Some of us would like to set a precedence that
> 
> will
> see even President Museveni held responsible for any wrongs committed
> while 
> he
> was in power. We will have to moral authority to demand for that if we
> 
> cannot
> demand for it from Dr. Obote now.
> 
> Nice day.
> 
> Quoting Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > Ever since Obote left power, why haven't these questions been asked?
> Did
> > you
> > really wait for his coming back to Uganda to ask these things? And
> why
> > has
> > The Movement  taken 20 years without looking into this issue? I saw
> The
> > Paul
> > Muwanga circus what did it help Uganda as a society? May be The
> Movement
> > is
> > the one to have every thing to hide?
> >
> > But you see we were told that Obote killed the people in Luwero and
> we
> >
> > accepted it, as we were told that Muteesa was poisoned by a Muganda
> girl
> > who
> > was sent to London by Obote, until when I read Mutesa's postmortem
> > report
> > and knew the man died of alcohol poisoning because he was a plain
> > drunkard.
> > And no Ugandan ever decided to ask in UK for a report on his death
> > because
> > it is some thing we must just believe.
> >
> > Uganda is truly a ZOO indeed
> >
> > Em
> > Toronto
> >
> 

Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC

2005-04-10 Thread Edward Mulindwa
And if Obote decides not to come back to Uganda? Then it is okay?  What 
happened to critical thinking? So all ministers in that government who are 
in Uganda and some who are working in NRM all UNLA officers in Uganda today 
does not matter you just need Obote to tell you how he killed Ugandans in 
Luwero? No wonder NRM is starting to set terms of Obote's return because 
they are now knowing how Ugandans love Obote.

And it is amazing that just last night I talked to a Ugandan at length 
regarding this return, and she said these words and I quote "No Obote can 
come back for we have tried our best to kill all UPCs so no problem he can 
show up no one cares" end quote. Umm well Mukono only has so far raised 25 
cows, what does that tell you about the man and about what Ugandans feel 
about him?.

Uganda is a ZOO indeed and Museveni is a zoo keeper, guys stay there I will 
stay here.

Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
   Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC

Mr. Mulindwa,
It is a pity it took you a lot of trouble to get the real cause of Kabaka's
death. He was dead and trying to get an answer from him would not have been
very easy.
In this case however, Dr. Obote is alive and can talk for himself, 
fortunately
he is endowed with an abundant ability to convince even the doubting ones 
like
me. He can surely get back to Uganda and convince us that it was not him but
President Museveni who was responsible for the killings in NOT ONLY Luwero 
but
other parts of the country as well.

Some of us would have been willing to listen to his side of the story even 
20
yrs ago. I'm sure, then just like now, he would get a judge and general 
public
to listen to his side of the story. He just wasn't there to give it. Now 
that
he is going back to Uganda, why do you want to deny as the opportunity to
listen to his side of the story? It is not just now that we are getting
interested in it. As to why the Movement is interested in it now, may be the
answer can best be got from Mr. Opondo, the movement spokesperson.

Mr. Mulindwa, would rather, that Dr. Obote comes back and no questions are
asked and therefore all off us remain guessing who was responsible for all 
the
deaths during his regime? Some of us would like to set a precedence that 
will
see even President Museveni held responsible for any wrongs committed while 
he
was in power. We will have to moral authority to demand for that if we 
cannot
demand for it from Dr. Obote now.

Nice day.
Quoting Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Ever since Obote left power, why haven't these questions been asked? Did
you
really wait for his coming back to Uganda to ask these things? And why
has
The Movement  taken 20 years without looking into this issue? I saw The
Paul
Muwanga circus what did it help Uganda as a society? May be The Movement
is
the one to have every thing to hide?
But you see we were told that Obote killed the people in Luwero and we
accepted it, as we were told that Muteesa was poisoned by a Muganda girl
who
was sent to London by Obote, until when I read Mutesa's postmortem
report
and knew the man died of alcohol poisoning because he was a plain
drunkard.
And no Ugandan ever decided to ask in UK for a report on his death
because
it is some thing we must just believe.
Uganda is truly a ZOO indeed
Em
Toronto
 The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC

Mr. Onegi,
Since the facts are there, and Dr. Obote is that intelligent and with
the
ability to convince, why can't he just get back to Uganda and convince
the
courts of law and Ugandans at large, that it was President Museveni and
not
him
who was responsible for all the deaths. Why is he denying Ugandans these
facts?
Anyway for your information Mr. Onegi, I'm one of those who do not know
who
the
killer is, contrary to your assertion below. I stand to benefit, like so
many
other Ugandans from the facts as will be given by Dr. Obote when he gets
back
to Uganda.
And by the way, no amount of Intimidation by way of telling me that I
belong
to
the bush is going to change fact that I do not know who the killer is. I
will,
like many others, continue asking.  For it is a fact that people were
killed
in
Luwero and somebody is responsible. It is that person or persons that
some
of
us want to know.  The kind of intimidation you are trying to employ here
used
to come in handy in silencing people in 1980s but I don't think it is
effective
today.
Nice day.
Quoting "[EMAIL PRO

[Ugnet] Gen. Muntu tells why he quit Movt

2005-04-10 Thread Matek Opoko














Gen. Muntu tells why he quit Movt 

By Isaac Mufumba 


JINJA — Forum for Democratic Change leader Mugisha Muntu has said that he quit the Movement after President Museveni failed to implement a key recommendation of the Kyankwanzi meeting of March 2003 on presidential term limits.
Mr Muntu told a rally in Jinja on Friday that the Movement's National Executive Committee (NEC) meeting in Kyankwanzi from March 31-April 2, 2003, recommended that the President appoints a committee to examine the proposal to have presidential term limits removed from the Constitution and report to the National Conference of the Movement but the committee was never named.
"That was the point of departure. That is when I realised that we couldn't have any more internal debates about democracy," Muntu, the FDC co-ordinator for organisation and mobilisation, said.
Muntu together with FDC officials Harry Kasigwa, Ogenga Latigo and Salaamu Musumba addressed three rallies in Jinja and Kamuli districts on Friday afternoon.
At all the rallies, Muntu said that the President's decision to ignore the Kyankwanzi recommendation made him realise that the Movement no longer had room for dissent.
However, Mr Ofwono Opondo, the Movement Secretariat's director of information, said that the Kyankwanzi resolution was subject to ratification by the National Conference. 
He said that Mr Museveni, the Movement chairman, in fact named, among others, Dr Khiddu Makubuya, Dr Crispus Kiyonga, and Prof. Semakula Kiwanuka to the committee. But at the same time he said he would have to consult other people during the National Conference meeting before unveiling the entire membership of the committee.
The National Conference, the Movement's top organ, met on April 3-5 at the International Conference Centre in Kampala to look at the NEC resolutions and recommendations.
That meeting, Opondo said, rejected the idea of the committee to look into the term limits issue. Instead, the National Conference passed a second resolution to form the NRM organisation and seek the lifting of presidential term limits.
Muntu said he was further surprised when districts such as Kampala and Ntungamo, which had opposed the term limits proposal at the Kyankwanzi meeting, suddenly changed their stand at the Conference Centre.Muntu accused Museveni of being deceptive, saying that he is using other people to help him renege on his 2001 campaign promise to serve only one more term.
The Movement proposal to amend the Constitution to allow a President rule for as long as he or she is electable has fuelled talk that this is a ploy to have Museveni run for another term - the third term - when his current and last one expires next year.
Muntu, a retired major general former army commander, wondered why the President is scared of declaring his stand on the third term yet in 1980, at a time when his security could not be guaranteed, he was bold enough to declare that he would wage war if that year's elections were rigged.At the same rallies, FDC vice chairwoman in charge of eastern Uganda, Ms Musumba, said that the party is looking for a candidate from the Busoga sub-region to lead it in the 2006 presidential elections.
"I have been assigned to look around Busoga for a suitable candidate to lead [FDC] in the 2006 presidential elections. Give me a name. The next President should be from here," she said.
A candidate from the region, she said, would be able to help the party swing about 1 million votes in its favour. At well more than 2 million, Basoga are the third most populous ethnic group in Uganda.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___
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[Ugnet] Raiders Kill 8 in Night Attacks

2005-04-10 Thread Matek Opoko

 
Mugaja Affa Alabba!!..wacha washaili wana wona kee!!
 
Raiders Kill 8 in Night Attacks












 

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The East African Standard (Nairobi)
April 10, 2005 Posted to the web April 10, 2005 
Osinde Obare And Samuel MburuNairobi 
A police reservist was among four people shot dead by raiders on Thursday at Kaptir village on the West Pokot-Turkana border.
The raiders, numbering about 100, were armed with sophisticated weapons. They are believed to be from the Pokot community. According to eyewitnesses, the raiders struck at around 2pm and surrounded the houses before opening fire.











 
Three herdsmen were killed on the spot as terrified villagers ran for cover in the nearby bushes. The raiders overpowered a group of Kenya Police reservists who tried to pursue them, killing one of them and stealing his firearm.
The attackers stole more than 400 goats, which they drove towards Mosor area in Sigor division.
Police backed by GSU officers from Loyapat and Turkwel however pursued the raiders and after a two-hour gun battle managed to recover about 350 animals.
Turkana District Commissioner Njenga Miiri yesterday said he was liaising with his West Pokot counterpart, Mr Stephen Ikur, to recover the rest of the animals.
Miiri said security personnel from the two districts were still pursuing the raiders, who he said were holed up in the bushy Mosor area.
"We are likely to recover the rest of the animals," said the DC in a telephone interview.
More than 10 people have been killed along the volatile border over the past few days.
Reports indicated the attack was meant to avenge a similar raid by the Turkana two weeks ago in which three people were killed.
Meanwhile, four people were killed yesterday in a dawn attack in two locations occupied by the Njemps community in Baringo District.
Heavily armed bandits struck at about 5.30am in Kiserian location where the community's members have sought refuge after two weeks of fighting.
The villagers, according to a witness, were killed at around 7.30am following prolonged gunfire directed at the houses in the village.
Two others, the witness said, were injured in Ng'ambo location, about eight kilometres from Kiserian, where fearful villagers had fled after the initial shooting. Those who were killed included Dominic Lemangi, Ngilip Lekuroito, Langaran Lekateiya and an Administration Police officer, Joseph Lelesepei. Ngiriro Lekosek and Lekijep Lekimongi suffered chest and leg injuries. They were taken to Kabarnet District Hospital where they are undergoing treatment.
The raiders stole hundreds of animals, including 100 cows and 650 goats.
Rift Valley Provincial Police Officer Joseph Kitonyi could not confirm the deaths, saying his men were still on the ground.
"We have sent security personnel to the ground and will only confirm after we receive information on the incident," he said.
Tension was high and families were fleeing both Kiserain and Ng'ambo following the attack.
The raiders are said to have fled with the animals towards Karau Hill in Tangublei division of East Baringo. The number of dead in the fighting has reached eight since the first attack on March 21, when members of the Njemps and Pokot communities retreated from common grazing grounds in Rungus.











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[Ugnet] U.S. Should Change Policy On Military Help to Uganda

2005-04-10 Thread Matek Opoko

U.S. Should Change Policy On Military Help to Uganda












 

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OPINIONApril 7, 2005 Posted to the web April 7, 2005 
Jesse BernsteinKampala 
AS an American citizen, when I read press reports that the US government had donated $800,000 worth of trucks to the UPDF, I was dismayed.
While the US Ambassador, Jimmy Kolker, emphasised this gift did not signal a shift in policy but was rather part of an overall strategy to promote peace negotiations while also supporting the UPDF, I tried to understand how such a multifaceted policy existed in real terms.












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In northern Uganda, the UPDF is accused of committing abuses against civilians.
During my two-week trip to the region last year, many civilians expressed frustration regarding the behaviour of the UPDF. One community leader in Pader alleged that the soldiers raped young girls and that, as most of these incidents took place at night, it was hard to identify the perpetrator, yet for any redress to take place, the victims needed to enter the barracks to identify the perpetrator.
Which young woman would risk this?
A recent report by the District Disaster Management Committee in Gulu, lists rape, forced labour, torture and elopement with civilian women as some of the abuses committed by the UPDF. Most of these crimes go unpunished.
Why then should the US government condone such behaviour by assisting an institution with such a dubious reputation. Of course, abuses committed by the LRA are atrocious and the conflicts must be brought to an end as soon as possible. Historically, however, the military solution has shown no promise of ending the conflict. It only increases the suffering of civilians.
At a time when Washington is increasingly becoming known for its hawkish policies and over reliance on military options to pursue foreign policy objectives, and considering the dismal failures of the UPDF in the north, pressure for peace should be emphasised.
The LRA actions must be brought to an end, and while its defeat may include a military component, protection of civilians is paramount. Military support should be linked to curtailing abuses from all parties. Assistance from donor governments should be linked with training of soldiers on human rights. Donor governments and civil society groups should support processes that hold those who commit abuses accountable.
This can be done by increasing amount of paralegals in areas of displacement. Mere talk of accountability and impunity-related problems at conferences is not enough. The recent US-sponsored civil-military conference is a good start and such should be encouraged if the relationship between the army and civil society is to improve.











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[Ugnet] New Terms for Obote Return

2005-04-10 Thread Matek Opoko

New Terms for Obote Return












 

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April 8, 2005 Posted to the web April 8, 2005 
Barbara AmongNairobi 
The Uganda government has imposed tough conditions on exiled former president Milton Obote, before he could be allowed to return home.
Dr Nsaba Butulo, Minister of Information in the office of the president said yesterday that though Mr Obote was free to return any time, he has to first write to President Yoweri Museveni, informing him of his intention to return. The letter must be copied to the Minister for Foreign Affairs, Dr Butulo added.
Last week, the opposition Uganda Peoples Congress (UPC) headquarters announced that their exiled leader, Milton Obote who ruled Uganda twice, between 1966 and 1971, then 1980 to 1985 was set to return to Uganda on May 27, 2005 and participate in the 2006 elections.
He is now exiled in Lusaka, Zambia where he ran to after his government was overthrown by his army commanders, General Tito Okello Lutwa and Bazillio Okello in 1985. Lutwa, who died in 1996, later became the president before Museveni overran Kampala in 1986. The minister told a well-attended press conference at Nakasero, Kampala that the people of Luwero triangle who suffered under the second regime of Obote, 1980 to 1985, must be consulted also. "Victims of Obote II regime will have to be consulted and these are represented by the Luwero War Veteran Association," said the minister. In his five-year guerilla warfare against the regime of Obote, Mr Museveni used the Luwero area as his base.
Many people were killed during the war and estimates say that over 100,000 people were killed. President Museveni blames the deaths on Mr Obote who killed innocent civilians suspecting them to be his fighters.
Dr Nsaba Buturo said that the government of Zambia has also to communicate to the Ugandan government and Uganda will respond to that communication raising all the pertinent issues they have against Obote.
"It is not a matter of him packing his bag and coming back because according to the 1995 constitution all prosecution is in the hands of the Director of Public Prosecution.
"The Amnesty law does not cover Obote but only those currently fighting government," said the minister. Adding that Mr Obote's role in the massacre of Luwero people will have to be handled before his issue of return could be resolved.











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The minister said that the UN would also be involved in the coming back of Mr Obote. The former Ugandan leader has on several occasions turned down government invitations to return to Uganda. Mr Godfrey Binaisa, whom Obote replaced in 1980, is currently in Uganda enjoying benefits of ex-presidents.
Of recent he has come out openly to endorse president Museveni to run for another term after the expiry of his current term in 2006.
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[Ugnet] Uganda: Army Rescues 100 LRA Captives As Hostilities Intensify

2005-04-10 Thread Matek Opoko

Fellow Citizens:
As you read  the reporting below by the so called UN Intergrated Region Information Network News, bare in  mind that  there is NO INDEPENDENT CONFIRMATION  by say the BCC or Independent news Agencies of the claims stated below by NRM sycophant  Tabaro..
Matek.
Uganda: Army Rescues 100 LRA Captives As Hostilities Intensify












 

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April 8, 2005 Posted to the web April 8, 2005 
Kampala 
The Ugandan army rescued more than 100 people kidnapped by the rebel Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) during the month of March, and also killed 50 insurgents, an army spokesman told IRIN on Thursday.
"We rescued 110, mainly children, but also adults who had been abducted by the rebels from the [northern Ugandan] areas of Gulu, Apac, Adjumani, Kitgum and Pader," Lt Kiconco Tabaro, an army spokesman based in northern Uganda, said.
"We also managed to kill 50 rebels, and two of our soldiers were injured, while a number of ammunition and arms were recovered," he said. "The arms included 39 rifles, one rocket propeller gun, anti-personnel mines and other ammunitions."
Tabaro said several civilians were killed during the month, but the army had not determined the exact number.
He further stated that the LRA had mutilated several women, hacking off their breasts, lips and ears.
A shortage of food in the bush, Tabaro said, had prompted rebels to attack civilians in search of supplies - although they had also been motivated by publicity.
Northern Uganda has been the backdrop to a protracted war between the government and the LRA, a notoriously brutal group that claims to be fighting to replace the government of President Yoweri Museveni with one based on the Bible's Ten Commandments.
The region recently experienced a two-month lull in hostilities when negotiations between the government and the rebels began in late 2004. However, talks stalled at the beginning of March, and the LRA resumed its attacks on civilians.
A UN official, who requested anonymity, spoke to IRIN in Gulu on Thursday and described the peace process as "a wait-and-see situation".
However, Ugandan media recently reported that the chief mediator in the peace talks, Betty Bigombe, made contact with LRA leader Joseph Kony on Tuesday, over the possibility of resuming negotiations.
The 19-year-old war between the government and the LRA has all but devastated northern Uganda, killing tens of thousands and displacing 1.5 million people.











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Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC

2005-04-10 Thread s22294822
Mr. Mulindwa, 
It is a pity it took you a lot of trouble to get the real cause of Kabaka's 
death. He was dead and trying to get an answer from him would not have been 
very easy.

In this case however, Dr. Obote is alive and can talk for himself, fortunately 
he is endowed with an abundant ability to convince even the doubting ones like 
me. He can surely get back to Uganda and convince us that it was not him but 
President Museveni who was responsible for the killings in NOT ONLY Luwero but 
other parts of the country as well.

Some of us would have been willing to listen to his side of the story even 20 
yrs ago. I’m sure, then just like now, he would get a judge and general public 
to listen to his side of the story. He just wasn’t there to give it. Now that 
he is going back to Uganda, why do you want to deny as the opportunity to 
listen to his side of the story? It is not just now that we are getting 
interested in it. As to why the Movement is interested in it now, may be the 
answer can best be got from Mr. Opondo, the movement spokesperson.

Mr. Mulindwa, would rather, that Dr. Obote comes back and no questions are 
asked and therefore all off us remain guessing who was responsible for all the 
deaths during his regime? Some of us would like to set a precedence that will 
see even President Museveni held responsible for any wrongs committed while he 
was in power. We will have to moral authority to demand for that if we cannot 
demand for it from Dr. Obote now.

Nice day.

Quoting Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Ever since Obote left power, why haven't these questions been asked? Did
> you 
> really wait for his coming back to Uganda to ask these things? And why
> has 
> The Movement  taken 20 years without looking into this issue? I saw The
> Paul 
> Muwanga circus what did it help Uganda as a society? May be The Movement
> is 
> the one to have every thing to hide?
> 
> But you see we were told that Obote killed the people in Luwero and we
> 
> accepted it, as we were told that Muteesa was poisoned by a Muganda girl
> who 
> was sent to London by Obote, until when I read Mutesa's postmortem
> report 
> and knew the man died of alcohol poisoning because he was a plain
> drunkard. 
> And no Ugandan ever decided to ask in UK for a report on his death
> because 
> it is some thing we must just believe.
> 
> Uganda is truly a ZOO indeed
> 
> Em
> Toronto
> 
>  The Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 2:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC
> 
> 
> Mr. Onegi,
> Since the facts are there, and Dr. Obote is that intelligent and with
> the
> ability to convince, why can't he just get back to Uganda and convince
> the
> courts of law and Ugandans at large, that it was President Museveni and
> not 
> him
> who was responsible for all the deaths. Why is he denying Ugandans these
> 
> facts?
> Anyway for your information Mr. Onegi, I'm one of those who do not know
> who 
> the
> killer is, contrary to your assertion below. I stand to benefit, like so
> 
> many
> other Ugandans from the facts as will be given by Dr. Obote when he gets
> 
> back
> to Uganda.
> 
> And by the way, no amount of Intimidation by way of telling me that I
> belong 
> to
> the bush is going to change fact that I do not know who the killer is. I
> 
> will,
> like many others, continue asking.  For it is a fact that people were
> killed 
> in
> Luwero and somebody is responsible. It is that person or persons that
> some 
> of
> us want to know.  The kind of intimidation you are trying to employ here
> 
> used
> to come in handy in silencing people in 1980s but I don't think it is 
> effective
> today.
> 
> Nice day.
> 
> 
> Quoting "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> >
> > Even you know who the killer is but will not admit it. Museveni is
> the
> > one responsible for all those death in Luwero. Propaganda to the
> > contrary simply defeats itself because it was Museveni who started
> an
> > unpopular war and trying to connect it to Buganda popular wishes and
> > mistaken hatred for Obote( hatred that Obote is very smart
> intelligent
> > and convincing speaker) NRA would commit atrocities at night and in
> the
> > morning turn up to commiserate with the hapless citizens.
> > That is briefly what has been going on.
> > Now that Obote's plan to come back back has become certain, Museveni
> and
> > his supporters are exteremely worried of losing and semblance of
> > legality in office. They feel like the houseboy who took over the
> > master's bed room would feel on hearing of the master's return. That
> is
> > your problem. I guess you already want to go back to the bush, isn't
> > that so? That is where your type of people feel comfortable in.
> >
> 

Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC

2005-04-10 Thread Matek Opoko
Citizens:
 the facts are simply:
 
a) Who created the war in Luwero?..
Answer Museveni
b) who  believess in war mongering tactics and has thus destroyed Northern and Eastern Uganda?
Answer: Yoweri Museveni
c) who  beieves in invading neigbouring countries  in a futile effort to fight 'rebels"
Answer: Yoweri Museveni 
D) Who must , therefore, be held Responsible  for all the calamities present in future which might befold the people of the Great Lakes Region?
Answer: Yoweri Museveni"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Even you know who the killer is but will not admit it. Museveni is the one responsible for all those death in Luwero. Propaganda to the contrary simply defeats itself because it was Museveni who started an unpopular war and trying to connect it to Buganda popular wishes and mistaken hatred for Obote( hatred that Obote is very smart intelligent and convincing speaker) NRA would commit atrocities at night and in the morning turn up to commiserate with the hapless citizens.That is briefly what has been going on.Now that Obote's plan to come back back has become certain, Museveni and his supporters are exteremely worried of losing and semblance of legality in office. They feel like the houseboy who took over the master's bed room would feel on hearing of the master's return. That is your problem. I guess you already want to go back to the bush, isn't that so? That is w
 here
 your type of people feel comfortable in. Onegi-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Since, according to UPC, Obote and his government are not responsible for the atrocities in Luwero and other parts of the country during his regime, why doesn't he come back and prove this before a court of law. His coming back may be an opportunity for him to tell all Ugandans, other than just the UPC members who already seem to know, who exactly was responsible for the deaths in Luwero and elsewhere in the country.Quoting Matek Opoko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:> > Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC> > THE Uganda People’s Congress (UPC) has said information state minister> Nsaba Buturo, who was a Luweero district commissioner, knows the people> who massacred residents, reports Hillary Kiirya. > > Speaking on phone, UPC’s defacto leader, Hajji Badru Wegulo, yesterday> said, “I do not th
 ink
 Buturo believes in what he is saying other than> protecting the buttered side of the bread. He knows the people who threw> the grenades and butchered people in Luweero and not Dr. Milton Obote as> he said. Obote is not a killer. > > “That was a very unfortunate statement though we expected it from the> government. We know they have sinister plans for the party president.> They thought his return was a simple thing but after knowing the> public’s opinion, they got scared and used this as the only way of> stopping him from coming back,” Wegulo said. > > He was reacting to Buturo’s warning on Luweero massacres in which he> said exiled former president Obote should answer for the atrocities. > > Wegulo said they were studying the situation before they come out openly> on Obote’s return. > “This is a man whose father and mother were murdered by the government.> S
 o when
 the government says such things about him, we have to be very> careful,” Wegulo said.> > Published on: Saturday, 9th April, 2005> > > > -> Do you Yahoo!?> Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! \\\"Always be a first rate version of yourself instead of a second rate version of someone else.\"Njoki Paul University of Pretoria ___Ugandanet mailing listUgandanet@kym.nethttp://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet% UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/___Ugandanet mailing listUgandanet@kym.nethttp://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet% UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
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Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC

2005-04-10 Thread Edward Mulindwa
Ever since Obote left power, why haven't these questions been asked? Did you 
really wait for his coming back to Uganda to ask these things? And why has 
The Movement  taken 20 years without looking into this issue? I saw The Paul 
Muwanga circus what did it help Uganda as a society? May be The Movement is 
the one to have every thing to hide?

But you see we were told that Obote killed the people in Luwero and we 
accepted it, as we were told that Muteesa was poisoned by a Muganda girl who 
was sent to London by Obote, until when I read Mutesa's postmortem report 
and knew the man died of alcohol poisoning because he was a plain drunkard. 
And no Ugandan ever decided to ask in UK for a report on his death because 
it is some thing we must just believe.

Uganda is truly a ZOO indeed
Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
   Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC

Mr. Onegi,
Since the facts are there, and Dr. Obote is that intelligent and with the
ability to convince, why can't he just get back to Uganda and convince the
courts of law and Ugandans at large, that it was President Museveni and not 
him
who was responsible for all the deaths. Why is he denying Ugandans these 
facts?
Anyway for your information Mr. Onegi, I'm one of those who do not know who 
the
killer is, contrary to your assertion below. I stand to benefit, like so 
many
other Ugandans from the facts as will be given by Dr. Obote when he gets 
back
to Uganda.

And by the way, no amount of Intimidation by way of telling me that I belong 
to
the bush is going to change fact that I do not know who the killer is. I 
will,
like many others, continue asking.  For it is a fact that people were killed 
in
Luwero and somebody is responsible. It is that person or persons that some 
of
us want to know.  The kind of intimidation you are trying to employ here 
used
to come in handy in silencing people in 1980s but I don't think it is 
effective
today.

Nice day.
Quoting "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Even you know who the killer is but will not admit it. Museveni is the
one responsible for all those death in Luwero. Propaganda to the
contrary simply defeats itself because it was Museveni who started an
unpopular war and trying to connect it to Buganda popular wishes and
mistaken hatred for Obote( hatred that Obote is very smart intelligent
and convincing speaker) NRA would commit atrocities at night and in the
morning turn up to commiserate with the hapless citizens.
That is briefly what has been going on.
Now that Obote's plan to come back back has become certain, Museveni and
his supporters are exteremely worried of losing and semblance of
legality in office. They feel like the houseboy who took over the
master's bed room would feel on hearing of the master's return. That is
your problem. I guess you already want to go back to the bush, isn't
that so? That is where your type of people feel comfortable in.
Onegi
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since, according to UPC,  Obote and his government are not responsible
for the
atrocities in Luwero and other parts of the country during his regime,
why
doesn't he come back and prove this before a court of law. His coming
back may
be an opportunity for him to tell all Ugandans, other than just the UPC
members
who already seem to know, who exactly was responsible for the deaths in
Luwero
and elsewhere in the country.
Quoting Matek Opoko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC
>
> THE Uganda People's Congress (UPC) has said information state
minister
> Nsaba Buturo, who was a Luweero district commissioner, knows the
people
> who massacred residents, reports Hillary Kiirya.
>
> Speaking on phone, UPC's defacto leader, Hajji Badru Wegulo,
yesterday
> said, "I do not think Buturo believes in what he is saying other
than
> protecting the buttered side of the bread. He knows the people who
threw
> the grenades and butchered people in Luweero and not Dr. Milton Obote
as
> he said. Obote is not a killer.
>
> "That was a very unfortunate statement though we expected it from
the
> government. We know they have sinister plans for the party
president.
> They thought his return was a simple thing but after knowing the
> public's opinion, they got scared and used this as the only way of
> stopping him from coming back," Wegulo said.
>
> He was reacting to Buturo's warning on Luweero massacres in which he
> said exiled former president Obote should answer for the atrocities.
>
> Wegulo said they were studying the situation before they come out
openly
> on Obote's return.
> "This is a man whose father and mother were murdered by the
government.
> So when the government says such things about him, we have to be
very
> careful," Wegulo said

Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC

2005-04-10 Thread s22294822
Mr. Onegi,
Since the facts are there, and Dr. Obote is that intelligent and with the 
ability to convince, why can't he just get back to Uganda and convince the 
courts of law and Ugandans at large, that it was President Museveni and not him 
who was responsible for all the deaths. Why is he denying Ugandans these facts? 
Anyway for your information Mr. Onegi, I'm one of those who do not know who the 
killer is, contrary to your assertion below. I stand to benefit, like so many 
other Ugandans from the facts as will be given by Dr. Obote when he gets back 
to Uganda. 

And by the way, no amount of Intimidation by way of telling me that I belong to 
the bush is going to change fact that I do not know who the killer is. I will, 
like many others, continue asking.  For it is a fact that people were killed in 
Luwero and somebody is responsible. It is that person or persons that some of 
us want to know.  The kind of intimidation you are trying to employ here used 
to come in handy in silencing people in 1980s but I don't think it is effective 
today.

Nice day.

 
Quoting "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> Even you know who the killer is but will not admit it. Museveni is the
> one responsible for all those death in Luwero. Propaganda to the
> contrary simply defeats itself because it was Museveni who started an
> unpopular war and trying to connect it to Buganda popular wishes and
> mistaken hatred for Obote( hatred that Obote is very smart intelligent
> and convincing speaker) NRA would commit atrocities at night and in the
> morning turn up to commiserate with the hapless citizens.
> That is briefly what has been going on.
> Now that Obote's plan to come back back has become certain, Museveni and
> his supporters are exteremely worried of losing and semblance of
> legality in office. They feel like the houseboy who took over the
> master's bed room would feel on hearing of the master's return. That is
> your problem. I guess you already want to go back to the bush, isn't
> that so? That is where your type of people feel comfortable in. 
> 
> Onegi
> 
> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Since, according to UPC,  Obote and his government are not responsible
> for the 
> atrocities in Luwero and other parts of the country during his regime,
> why 
> doesn't he come back and prove this before a court of law. His coming
> back may 
> be an opportunity for him to tell all Ugandans, other than just the UPC
> members 
> who already seem to know, who exactly was responsible for the deaths in
> Luwero 
> and elsewhere in the country.
> 
> Quoting Matek Opoko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > 
> > Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC
> > 
> > THE Uganda People’s Congress (UPC) has said information state
> minister
> > Nsaba Buturo, who was a Luweero district commissioner, knows the
> people
> > who massacred residents, reports Hillary Kiirya. 
> > 
> > Speaking on phone, UPC’s defacto leader, Hajji Badru Wegulo,
> yesterday
> > said, “I do not think Buturo believes in what he is saying other
> than
> > protecting the buttered side of the bread. He knows the people who
> threw
> > the grenades and butchered people in Luweero and not Dr. Milton Obote
> as
> > he said. Obote is not a killer. 
> > 
> > “That was a very unfortunate statement though we expected it from
> the
> > government. We know they have sinister plans for the party
> president.
> > They thought his return was a simple thing but after knowing the
> > public’s opinion, they got scared and used this as the only way of
> > stopping him from coming back,” Wegulo said. 
> > 
> > He was reacting to Buturo’s warning on Luweero massacres in which he
> > said exiled former president Obote should answer for the atrocities.
> 
> > 
> > Wegulo said they were studying the situation before they come out
> openly
> > on Obote’s return. 
> > “This is a man whose father and mother were murdered by the
> government.
> > So when the government says such things about him, we have to be
> very
> > careful,” Wegulo said.
> > 
> > Published on: Saturday, 9th April, 2005
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC

2005-04-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Even you know who the killer is but will not admit it. Museveni is the one 
responsible for all those death in Luwero. Propaganda to the contrary simply 
defeats itself because it was Museveni who started an unpopular war and trying 
to connect it to Buganda popular wishes and mistaken hatred for Obote( hatred 
that Obote is very smart intelligent and convincing speaker) NRA would commit 
atrocities at night and in the morning turn up to commiserate with the hapless 
citizens.
That is briefly what has been going on.
Now that Obote's plan to come back back has become certain, Museveni and his 
supporters are exteremely worried of losing and semblance of legality in 
office. They feel like the houseboy who took over the master's bed room would 
feel on hearing of the master's return. That is your problem. I guess you 
already want to go back to the bush, isn't that so? That is where your type of 
people feel comfortable in. 

Onegi

-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since, according to UPC,  Obote and his government are not responsible for the 
atrocities in Luwero and other parts of the country during his regime, why 
doesn't he come back and prove this before a court of law. His coming back may 
be an opportunity for him to tell all Ugandans, other than just the UPC members 
who already seem to know, who exactly was responsible for the deaths in Luwero 
and elsewhere in the country.

Quoting Matek Opoko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC
> 
> THE Uganda People’s Congress (UPC) has said information state minister
> Nsaba Buturo, who was a Luweero district commissioner, knows the people
> who massacred residents, reports Hillary Kiirya. 
> 
> Speaking on phone, UPC’s defacto leader, Hajji Badru Wegulo, yesterday
> said, “I do not think Buturo believes in what he is saying other than
> protecting the buttered side of the bread. He knows the people who threw
> the grenades and butchered people in Luweero and not Dr. Milton Obote as
> he said. Obote is not a killer. 
> 
> “That was a very unfortunate statement though we expected it from the
> government. We know they have sinister plans for the party president.
> They thought his return was a simple thing but after knowing the
> public’s opinion, they got scared and used this as the only way of
> stopping him from coming back,” Wegulo said. 
> 
> He was reacting to Buturo’s warning on Luweero massacres in which he
> said exiled former president Obote should answer for the atrocities. 
> 
> Wegulo said they were studying the situation before they come out openly
> on Obote’s return. 
> “This is a man whose father and mother were murdered by the government.
> So when the government says such things about him, we have to be very
> careful,” Wegulo said.
> 
> Published on: Saturday, 9th April, 2005
> 
> 
>   
> -
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Re: [Ugnet] just a hiccup !

2005-04-10 Thread Matek Opoko
 Jonah: 
NO Comment!
Just observe as things unfold
 
Matek.
jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Matek,just a hiccup, huh ?..UPC plot to expel OboteBY ALFRED WASIKEJUST a week after the Zambia-based Uganda People’s Congress leader, Milton Obote shook up his party dissolving its top organ, the Presidential Policy Commission, a group of those sacked are plotting to oust him soon.Investigations by Sunday Vision have found that a group of angry UPC leaders are secretly meeting in a Kampala suburb and are drawing up strategies to throw out Obote in a delegates’ conference or even earlier.They claim that Obote is worse than Museveni and does not take advice.According to a source, the rebel faction, which has so far held three meetingssays the party chief overreacts whenever challenged.Efforts to get a comment from the new de facto leader in Uganda Haji Badru Wegulo, the chairperson of the new UP
 C
 Constitutional Steering Committee, were fruitless, as he switched off his mobile phone.“It is a big of group of people who are very unhappy with the way they were sacked. They are secretly convincing delegates to join them in throwing out Obote during the delegates’ conference that will take place in a few months. It is a big group from the former PPC, National Organisation Committee, MPs and other organs,” the sources said.Sunday Vision has learnt that among the plotters are former PPC chairperson, James Rwanyarare, Henry Mayega, Patrick Mwondha, Omara Atubo, Ben Wacha, Cecilia Ogwal, Afunadula, Patrick Kirunda, Yona Kanyomozi, Patrick Rubaihayo and Okullu Epak.The plotters have also drawn up a memorandum of their grievances, which was e-mailed to Obote yesterday morning. It read, “We are outlining our issues with his leadership of the party. We are protesting the manner in which he sacked us and appointed Movement spi
 es into
 the party. We are also angry that after toiling in the countryside looking for signatures, even in hostile territory like Buganda, we never even looked at the registration certificate.”The group is unhappy with Obote’s choice of Kampala lawyer Peter Walubiri as the party’s secretary general. They feel party faithfuls have been sidelined.Sources said the plotters are against the idea of Obote returning home before the 2006 elections, because most Ugandans are still angry with him over the excesses of the UPC in the 1960s and 1980s.They argue that his return would jeopardise the chances of UPC and the opposition coalition in the 2006 polls.Sources dismissed rumours that the plotters were fronting Rwanyarare to replace Obote.“They want to give the leadership to a younger person like Mayiga, or someone as young, especially to sell the party in Buganda,” the sources said.EndsPublished on: Sunday, 10th Apr
 il,
 2005==>Re: [Ugnet] UPC bickering over certificate !>Matek Opoko>Sun, 03 Apr 2005 07:29:56 -0700>>Nnyambo>Jonah Kasangwawo!>Tofayo!>>THESE ARE JUST HICCUPS. Believe me UPC leadership remains solid focus >and determine to >once again bring Uhuru to the people of Uganda after 20 >years of NRM oppression in our country. >Have a good sunday.>Matek>From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: ugandanet@kym.net>To: ugandanet@kym.net>Subject: [Ugnet] UPC bickering over certificate !>Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 12:40:45 +>>Matek,>>what's going on ? Is UPC heading for a Ssemogerere-Ssebaggala-type squabble >?>>.>>From Sunday Monitor>>Inside story of UPC shake-up>By Frank Nyakairu>KAMPALA — Uganda Peoples Congress Presiden
 t Milton
 Obote dismissed Dr James >Rwanyarare as UPC leader in Uganda for allegedly saying he would defy the >exiled party chief.>>Rwanyarare was removed as chairman of the Presidential Policy Commission >(PPC), the organ that has been running the party, and made chairman of a >five-member advisory team.>>>Dr James Rwanyarare and Congress President Milton Obote>>He denies that he wanted to shunt the exiled Obote aside and pave the way >for himself to become UPC president.>Obote, exiled in Lusaka since 1985, replaced the PPC with the >Constitutional Steering Committee led by national party chairman Badru >Wegulo.>>Rwanyarare is said to have called a PPC meeting on March 21, which also >involved members of the youth wing. He reportedly told the meeting "that he >and Cecilia Ogwal were going to get the party registration certificate and >run the aff
 airs of
 the party and be able to defy Obote", said Mr Peter >Walubiri, a member of the PPC who, however, did not attend the meeting.>When Obote was told of the meeting, he instructed Walubiri to quickly >"collect the certificate and keep" it away from Rwanyarare.>>"That's a fabrication," said Rwanyarare. I held that meeting to resolve the >problems of the factions and I didn't at all talk about registration. >Someone who got the certificate arbitrarily is trying to justify his evil >acts.">>Indeed, factionalism, intrigue and backstabbing amongst top party leaders >are eating up UP

[Ugnet] just a hiccup !

2005-04-10 Thread jonah kasangwawo
Matek,
just a hiccup, huh ?
..
UPC plot to expel Obote
BY ALFRED WASIKE
JUST a week after the Zambia-based Uganda People’s Congress leader, Milton 
Obote shook up his party dissolving its top organ, the Presidential Policy 
Commission, a group of those sacked are plotting to oust him soon.
Investigations by Sunday Vision have found that a group of angry UPC leaders 
are secretly meeting in a Kampala suburb and are drawing up strategies to 
throw out Obote in a delegates’ conference or even earlier.
They claim that Obote is worse than Museveni and does not take advice.
According to a source, the rebel faction, which has so far held three 
meetings
says the party chief overreacts whenever challenged.
Efforts to get a comment from the new de facto leader in Uganda Haji Badru 
Wegulo, the chairperson of the new UPC Constitutional Steering Committee, 
were fruitless, as he switched off his mobile phone.
“It is a big of group of people who are very unhappy with the way they were 
sacked. They are secretly convincing delegates to join them in throwing out 
Obote during the delegates’ conference that will take place in a few months. 
It is a big group from the former PPC, National Organisation Committee, MPs 
and other organs,” the sources said.
Sunday Vision has learnt that among the plotters are former PPC chairperson, 
James Rwanyarare, Henry Mayega, Patrick Mwondha, Omara Atubo, Ben Wacha, 
Cecilia Ogwal, Afunadula, Patrick Kirunda, Yona Kanyomozi, Patrick Rubaihayo 
and Okullu Epak.
The plotters have also drawn up a memorandum of their grievances, which was 
e-mailed to Obote yesterday morning. It read, “We are outlining our issues 
with his leadership of the party. We are protesting the manner in which he 
sacked us and appointed Movement spies into the party. We are also angry 
that after toiling in the countryside looking for signatures, even in 
hostile territory like Buganda, we never even looked at the registration 
certificate.”
The group is unhappy with Obote’s choice of Kampala lawyer Peter Walubiri as 
the party’s secretary general. They feel party faithfuls have been 
sidelined.
Sources said the plotters are against the idea of Obote returning home 
before the 2006 elections, because most Ugandans are still angry with him 
over the excesses of the UPC in the 1960s and 1980s.
They argue that his return would jeopardise the chances of UPC and the 
opposition coalition in the 2006 polls.
Sources dismissed rumours that the plotters were fronting Rwanyarare to 
replace Obote.
“They want to give the leadership to a younger person like Mayiga, or 
someone as young, especially to sell the party in Buganda,” the sources 
said.
Ends

Published on: Sunday, 10th April, 2005
==
Re: [Ugnet] UPC bickering over certificate !
Matek Opoko
Sun, 03 Apr 2005 07:29:56 -0700
Nnyambo
Jonah Kasangwawo!
Tofayo!
THESE  ARE JUST HICCUPS.   Believe me  UPC leadership remains solid  focus 
and determine to >once again bring Uhuru to  the people of Uganda  after 20 
years of NRM oppression in our country.  >Have a good sunday.
Matek

From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ugandanet@kym.net
To: ugandanet@kym.net
Subject: [Ugnet] UPC bickering over certificate !
Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 12:40:45 +
Matek,
what's going on ? Is UPC heading for a Ssemogerere-Ssebaggala-type squabble 
?

.
From Sunday Monitor
Inside story of UPC shake-up
By Frank Nyakairu
KAMPALA — Uganda Peoples Congress President Milton Obote dismissed Dr James 
Rwanyarare as UPC leader in Uganda for allegedly saying he would defy the 
exiled party chief.

Rwanyarare was removed as chairman of the Presidential Policy Commission 
(PPC), the organ that has been running the party, and made chairman of a 
five-member advisory team.

Dr James Rwanyarare and Congress President Milton Obote
He denies that he wanted to shunt the exiled Obote aside and pave the way 
for himself to become UPC president.
Obote, exiled in Lusaka since 1985, replaced the PPC with the 
Constitutional Steering Committee led by national party chairman Badru 
Wegulo.

Rwanyarare is said to have called a PPC meeting on March 21, which also 
involved members of the youth wing. He reportedly told the meeting "that he 
and Cecilia Ogwal were going to get the party registration certificate and 
run the affairs of the party and be able to defy Obote", said Mr Peter 
Walubiri, a member of the PPC who, however, did not attend the meeting.
When Obote was told of the meeting, he instructed Walubiri to quickly 
"collect the certificate and keep" it away from Rwanyarare.

"That's a fabrication," said Rwanyarare. I held that meeting to resolve the 
problems of the factions and I didn't at all talk about registration. 
Someone who got the certificate arbitrarily is trying to justify his evil 
acts."

Indeed, factionalism, intrigue and backstabbing amongst top party leaders 
are eating up UPC at its Uganda House headquarters on Kampala Road.
The major contending cen

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Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC

2005-04-10 Thread Matek Opoko

My friend:
 
After twenty years of  NRM rule,  the NRM  has not even dreamed of  charging Dr. Obote  before a dully constituted    court of law in Uganda   for the so called atrocities committed  in Luwero by Obote. ..Not even in Abstentia... What does this tell you..simple the NRM has no case ! Only now the NRM begins to make noise!..Just because Milton has hinted that he may return back to his motherland! Surely the NRM is now sweating in the boots , so to say.  Mambo Bando! Bwana 
Matek
 
 
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Since, according to UPC, Obote and his government are not responsible for the atrocities in Luwero and other parts of the country during his regime, why doesn't he come back and prove this before a court of law. His coming back may be an opportunity for him to tell all Ugandans, other than just the UPC members who already seem to know, who exactly was responsible for the deaths in Luwero and elsewhere in the country.Quoting Matek Opoko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:> > Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC> > THE Uganda People’s Congress (UPC) has said information state minister> Nsaba Buturo, who was a Luweero district commissioner, knows the people> who massacred residents, reports Hillary Kiirya. > > Speaking on phone, UPC’s defacto leader, Hajji Badru Wegulo, yesterday> said, “I do no
 t think
 Buturo believes in what he is saying other than> protecting the buttered side of the bread. He knows the people who threw> the grenades and butchered people in Luweero and not Dr. Milton Obote as> he said. Obote is not a killer. > > “That was a very unfortunate statement though we expected it from the> government. We know they have sinister plans for the party president.> They thought his return was a simple thing but after knowing the> public’s opinion, they got scared and used this as the only way of> stopping him from coming back,” Wegulo said. > > He was reacting to Buturo’s warning on Luweero massacres in which he> said exiled former president Obote should answer for the atrocities. > > Wegulo said they were studying the situation before they come out openly> on Obote’s return. > “This is a man whose father and mother were murdered by the government.> S
 o when
 the government says such things about him, we have to be very> careful,” Wegulo said.> > Published on: Saturday, 9th April, 2005> > > > -> Do you Yahoo!?> Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! \\\"Always be a first rate version of yourself instead of a second rate version of someone else.\"Njoki Paul University of Pretoria ___Ugandanet mailing listUgandanet@kym.nethttp://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet% UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___
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Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC

2005-04-10 Thread s22294822
Since, according to UPC,  Obote and his government are not responsible for the 
atrocities in Luwero and other parts of the country during his regime, why 
doesn't he come back and prove this before a court of law. His coming back may 
be an opportunity for him to tell all Ugandans, other than just the UPC members 
who already seem to know, who exactly was responsible for the deaths in Luwero 
and elsewhere in the country.

Quoting Matek Opoko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC
> 
> THE Uganda People’s Congress (UPC) has said information state minister
> Nsaba Buturo, who was a Luweero district commissioner, knows the people
> who massacred residents, reports Hillary Kiirya. 
> 
> Speaking on phone, UPC’s defacto leader, Hajji Badru Wegulo, yesterday
> said, “I do not think Buturo believes in what he is saying other than
> protecting the buttered side of the bread. He knows the people who threw
> the grenades and butchered people in Luweero and not Dr. Milton Obote as
> he said. Obote is not a killer. 
> 
> “That was a very unfortunate statement though we expected it from the
> government. We know they have sinister plans for the party president.
> They thought his return was a simple thing but after knowing the
> public’s opinion, they got scared and used this as the only way of
> stopping him from coming back,” Wegulo said. 
> 
> He was reacting to Buturo’s warning on Luweero massacres in which he
> said exiled former president Obote should answer for the atrocities. 
> 
> Wegulo said they were studying the situation before they come out openly
> on Obote’s return. 
> “This is a man whose father and mother were murdered by the government.
> So when the government says such things about him, we have to be very
> careful,” Wegulo said.
> 
> Published on: Saturday, 9th April, 2005
> 
> 
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[Ugnet] University Gradautes - & African Town/Cities

2005-04-10 Thread d b
What should be done- Re:Urban Planning and design


-   Which town, city or municipality in Uganda is planned, designed 
environmentally, residentially, the infrastructure both communication and 
amenities – NONE!!

-   See what has happened with the former Commercial Bank Building – isn’t 
it terrible!! I challenge KCC to produce a SITE MAP of UCB building location, 
APPROVED original architectural design UCB building, AND the reasons why the 
building was built the way it was originally constructed. 

-   After a thorough investigation into urban planning issues in this 
country, I am more than convinced – the government, local governments, 
municipalities and town councils including Kampala City Council have no ability 
what so ever; to plan, design, model and organise this country’s; towns and 
cities.

-   Which town, city council or municipality in Uganda has for example a 
map making or road engineering design department in this country – NONE!! 

-   I challenge Kampala City Council (KCC) to produce Economic, 
Topographical and Thematic maps of Kampala; this challenge goes to Entebbe and 
Jinja Municipality too.

-   I challenge KCC, Jinja and Entebbe municipality to produce detailed 
local council road designs maps as per topographical studies, environmental 
studies, weathering and erosion principals. 

-   I challenge KCC , Jinja and Entebbe municipalities to produce micro 
climatic data and maps of all buildings that have been built in Kampala in the 
past recent 10 years and even those newly approved plans.

-   You are free to visit us at www.idrconslting.com for instant 
consultancy for urban planning and design in your region.

-   How do you plan without maps and how do you built roads without maps 
and engineering design or civil works studies?!!

-   In Uganda you ask in bewilderment who built a house on a hill side – 
poor people and their educated counterparts quickly without reflection answer a 
one MUGAGA(rich fellow)!

-   Mark you, there are no planned roads, water, sewerage or 
telecommunication facilities in place so the mugaga digs a huge sceptic tank by 
the side of his mansion on the hill, leading to contamination of water tables 
below: where the poor slum dwellers live 

-   My findings shows, Uganda’s media too, disturbingly and shockingly, 
both written and visual has boxed itself into a corner for being self 
subversive and telling excessive lies to gain political credence, in order to 
make money! 

-They therefore fear to write and or talk about urban issues afflicting 
even these media houses maybe more, than people who have nothing, for fear of 
closure and imprisonment!

-   Then there is a problem of hierarchal structures in administration 
combined with NRM tribal structures. 

-   The man or woman above can’t be advised or antagonised lest a lower 
officer looses his or her job- a stalemate warranted. Tribal sentiments are 
also rampant when an officer in the hierarchy is a western, trust me no one 
will ever mention any mistake in the organisation for fear of implications! 

-   Billions of Uganda Tax Payers Money, is wasted year in year out on 
foreign trips by City, Town, and local council workers in tickets and 
allowances, to educate them about urban planning issues. 

-   It’s a waste of time since there is no visible transfer of such 
experiences on ground or anywhere in this country’s town or city. 

-   Moreover it is nonsensical if not out right stupid to assume, a person 
uneducated specifically in urban planning will visit a city or municipality and 
draw any lessons thereof instead of fancying nothingness. They learn lessons 
about what?

-   On the outset, I will propose that any future Mayor/s, Town clerk/s, 
Town and City Planners, Engineers all must have shown and documented experience 
in planning besides academic documentation in urban planning.

-The above officials must be sworn and contracted government workers 
and not elected officials affiliated to any political organs per their 
professional duties, and only committed to their contractual work.

-KCC and/ or any other entity offering the same duties, will never 
develop any town, city as they are ravaged with; corruption, hedonism, 
incompetence, ignorance and lack of will to resolve this country’s urban issues.

-   For example the problems, Jinja , Kampala and other towns and 
municipalities are facing are primary; political, organisation and innovation. 

-   These problems have been acerbated by government officials and 
antagonistic political organs sometimes based on sheer malice and ignorance. 
These politicians at times have got no clue about urban planning, design and 
appended socio-economic and environmental issues. 

-   Many of these officials have commercial interests in areas where they 
serve and for that reason have got no; ability, disposition, propensity,