[Ugnet] Church leaders should keep off political talk

[Mitayo Potosi]

*Re:**   **Church leaders should keep off political talk*

*Comrade Kintu Nyago,

In the heyday of colonial expansion who was not a fascist?.
Already WASPs had wiped out the natives of North America, Australia, Cape
Province in South Africa, New Zealand, etc..  etc...

Hitler's sin was to try to establish colonies in Europe. That's all.
Otherwise who was  more fascist than the arch-racist Winston Churchill who
swore never to shrink the British Empire?

So, It is not enough to blame Hitler for the Holocaust without condemning
Eugenics.

And who were the fathers of eugenics?  Was it not Sir Francis Bacon, Marie
Stopes, H G Wells, Woodrow Wilson, Theodore Roosevelt, Bernad Shaw, John
Maynard Keynes, Linus Pauling etc...

Hitler copied the sterilisation of "defectives" pioneered in the USA.  And
he took off from there with his holocaust.

But also it must be noted that it is the English who invented the Holocast
camps in South Africa at the turn of the 20th century after they had
defeated the Boers.  And Boers have never forgiven the English for this.

*  *As to our Catholic
Church I remember the late Arch-Bishop (Munsennyere) Joseph Kiwanuka
addressing us at St Mary's College Kisubi in early 1966.  He indeed was a
man of God; but looking back one sees that he was an extreme right winger.

In no un-certain terms he implored us to always be wary of "Communist
China".

But remember also that white priests then at Rubaga had refused to kiss his
ring. (They could not bring themselves to kiss the arch-Bishop's ring on the
fingers of a nigger/kaffir ).

Other whites were having banquets in Kololo amusing themselves with a dog
paraded as Obote.

All the same I consider Arch-Bishop (Munsennyere) Joseph Kiwanuka and Bishop
Miseiri Kawuma to have been the best Church leaders we have ever had.

Father Clement Kiggundu was my Head Teacher there in Masaka.  He was not a
fair man, take it from me. I grew up under his feet.

Calidinali Nsubuga was the worst. He was infecting nuns and other peoples'
wives with AIDS. And British imperialism used him to bring weapons into the
country to kill Ugandans.  Him and Jonan Luwum were arms traffickers.

And Arch-Bishop Dunstan Nsubuga at Namirembe was a disgusting tribalist;
giving Baganda a bad name.

It is very interesting history !!

Mitayo potosi.
===*
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*By Kintu Nyago*

Whenever I attend Sunday mass at Rubaga, I find Archbishop Cyprian Lwanga’s
religious summons most inspiring. Unfortunately, his political lectures at
the pulpit tend to be partisan and divisive. I wonder why this man of God
does not stick to what he knows best — religious summons.

For instance in his controversial Easter Sunday political message, he asked
Buganda to seek independence from Uganda. He said Buganda could do this
through an arrangement similar to the 1929 Lateran Treaties and Concordat
worked out between Italy’s fascist, atheist war criminal Benito Mussolini
and the Catholic Church’s aristocracy. This created the 109 acre Vatican
city state. For this the Vatican legitimised Mussolini’s autocratic hold on
power and proclaimed that he ruled by ‘divine providence’.

However, Dr. Lwanga conveniently, forgot to inform his congregation that the
arrangement between Mussolini and the Vatican compromised the latter, to the
extent that then reigning Popes Pius XI and XII kept quiet amid the gross
human rights abuses deliberately conducted by fascist states, ranging from
Franco’s Spain to Hitler’s Germany. Abuses that included the holocaust and
Operation Baborrossa.

In a secular democracy like Uganda, religious leaders should not use their
pulpits to propagate political messages. Religions follow a dogmatic creed
which stifles free debate. Furthermore, historically, the politicisation of
religion has resulted into political intolerance and tragic consequences.
This was so with the medieval crusaders. Indeed the intolerant creed of
Mackay (Makayi) and Lourdel (Mapera) bred Buganda’s 19th Century religious
wars. This consolidated Uganda’s tragic culture of religious sectarianism,
which President Museveni and the NRM have done so much to eradicate. As is
reflected through the NRM administration’s deliberate attempt to accommodate
the political representation of Catholics, Muslims and Anglicans.

The intrusion of religion into politics in Uganda as in the main society
offered murky results.

The Anglican and Catholic missionaries were the torch bearers of colonial
rule and its so called patronising civilising mission. And their so-called
missionary work offered the ideological justification of Pax Britannica in
Uganda.

Th

[Ugnet] Abolish Army: Harold Acemah

[Mitayo Potosi]

We do not need a national army
 By Harold E. Acemah  (email the author )

Posted Tuesday, April 13 2010 at 00:00

On April 11, 1979, the Tanzanian Peoples Defence Forces entered Kampala and
liberated Ugandans from the military dictatorship of Gen. Idi Amin. That
year, most Ugandans believed, and with the benefit of hindsight, wrongly,
that ‘gun rule’ was finally over. We believed that Uganda had hit rock
bottom and we all hoped against hope that things could only get better. Now,
31 years down the road, if there is one thing Ugandans have learnt it is
that, we have learnt nothing, at best very little, from our tragic
post-colonial era.

Uganda’s history since independence in 1962 is written in blood, shed
unnecessarily by both civilian and military regimes. It is a tragedy of
monumental proportions, considering that our national problems are political
in nature and, as such, our problems cannot be resolved by military means.

For instance, the alleged rigging of the 1980 general elections, which was
the rationale for the 1981 - 1985 bush war and the root cause of Amin’s rise
to power, through a military coup d’état in 1971, were political factors.
Political problems must be resolved by political means. Sadly for Uganda,
election rigging no longer makes headline news but has, in fact, become
routine despite the bloody civil war which was fought under the pretext that
the 1980 general elections were rigged by the UPC. To the best of my
knowledge, no empirical evidence has so far been submitted to a Ugandan
court of law to substantiate the allegations made in 1980/81 by the
aggrieved principal party.

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us

 The notion of an unarmed country is not utopian. Costa Rica in South
America, a continent which has had a turbulent history like Africa,
abolished its national army. Costa Rica went through a painful period when
governments were changed through coups and counter- coups for many decades.
However, in 1948, Costa Rica decided to abolish its regular army. The
decision to demobilise the national army was spearheaded by the President of
the time, Jose Figueras who declared:
“The Regular Army of Costa Rica, worthy successor of the Army of National
Liberation, is handing over the keys of these barracks to the schools so
that they can be converted into a cultural centre.”

The founding junta of the Second Republic declared the national army
officially dissolved, because “we consider the existence of a good police
force sufficient for the security of our nation”. In Costa Rica, 1st
December is celebrated every year with pride as Army Abolition Day. All
African countries, including Uganda, should strive to follow the progressive
and visionary example of Costa Rica and declare their own “Army Abolition
Day.” Such a bold step would release, for economic and social development,
the colossal resources we squander on expensive military hardware.
In most African countries today, expenditure on the military and related
outfits consumes the bulk of national resources. Consequently, the most
important sectors, such as education, health and agriculture are neglected
and deprived of the resources necessary to achieve meaningful economic and
social development. Hunger and malnutrition are a direct result of the
failure to invest adequate resources in agriculture. Furthermore, the
importance and urgency to allocate sufficient resources for the education
sector cannot be over- emphasised. After all, knowledge is power, and
countries such as Singapore, Malaysia and South Korea which were more or
less at the same level of development with some African countries such as
Ghana, Nigeria and Uganda in the early 1960s have made a great leap forward
primarily because of the high priority they accorded to education.

In my opinion, the desire and time to abolish national armies in Africa has
come. It is the patriotic duty and challenge of all peace-loving Africans
and genuine friends of Africa to ensure that Africa is demilitarised by
2025. Costa Rican President Oscar Arias Sanchez stated in 1988: “Our young
people have the right to new heroes, to commanders who silence weapons and
practise dialogue.

“In these 50 years, in which military barracks have been converted into
schools, our symbol has been the teacher who extols intelligence, not the
soldier who oppresses his people.” We can surely do likewise.
In many African countries today, the primary role of the army is not to
defend the sovereignty and territorial integrity of our countries from
external aggression. As David C. Korten has argued in his book, Getting to
the 21st Century (1990), conventional warfare between nations has become all
but obsolete. In too many countries, the army is the primary enforcer of
injustice. Global de-militarisation should be a high priority on the agenda
for the 1990s.

What African countries desp

[Ugnet] Church leaders should keep off political talk

[Mitayo Potosi]

*Re:**   **Church leaders should keep off political talk*

*Comrade Kintu Nyago,

In the heyday of colonial expansion who was not a fascist?.
Already WASPs had wiped out the natives of North America, Australia, Cape
Province in South Africa, New Zealand, etc..  etc...

Hitler's sin was to try to establish colonies in Europe. That's all.
Otherwise who was  more fascist than the arch-racist Winston Churchill who
swore never to shrink the British Empire?

So, It is not enough to blame Hitler for the Holocaust without condemning
Eugenics.

And who were the fathers of eugenics?  Was it not Sir Francis Bacon, Marie
Stopes, H G Wells, Woodrow Wilson, Theodore Roosevelt, Bernad Shaw, John
Maynard Keynes, Linus Pauling etc...

Hitler copied the sterilisation of "defectives" pioneered in the USA.  And
he took off from there with his holocaust.

But also it must be noted that it is the English who invented the Holocast
camps in South Africa at the turn of the 20th century after they had
defeated the Boers.  And Boers have never forgiven the English for this.

*  *As to our Catholic
Church I remember the late Arch-Bishop (Munsennyere) Joseph Kiwanuka
addressing us at St Mary's College Kisubi in early 1966.  He indeed was a
man of God; but looking back one sees that he was an extreme right winger.

In no un-certain terms he implored us to always be wary of "Communist
China".

But remember also that white priests then at Rubaga had refused to kiss his
ring. (They could not bring themselves to kiss the arch-Bishop's ring on the
fingers of a nigger/kaffir ).

Other whites were having banquets in Kololo amusing themselves with a dog
paraded as Obote.

All the same I consider Arch-Bishop (Munsennyere) Joseph Kiwanuka and Bishop
Miseiri Kawuma to have been the best Church leaders we have ever had.

Father Clement Kiggundu was my Head Teacher there in Masaka.  He was not a
fair man, take it from me. I grew up under his feet.

Calidinali Nsubuga was the worst. He was infecting nuns and other peoples'
wives with AIDS. And British imperialism used him to bring weapons into the
country to kill Ugandans.  Him and Jonan Luwum were arms traffickers.

And Arch-Bishop Dunstan Nsubuga at Namirembe was a disgusting tribalist;
giving Baganda a bad name.

It is very interesting history !!

Mitayo potosi.
===*
Church leaders should keep off political talk  Monday, 12th April,
2010  [image:
E-mail article]  E-mail
article
  [image: Print article]  Print
article 

*By Kintu Nyago*

Whenever I attend Sunday mass at Rubaga, I find Archbishop Cyprian Lwanga’s
religious summons most inspiring. Unfortunately, his political lectures at
the pulpit tend to be partisan and divisive. I wonder why this man of God
does not stick to what he knows best — religious summons.

For instance in his controversial Easter Sunday political message, he asked
Buganda to seek independence from Uganda. He said Buganda could do this
through an arrangement similar to the 1929 Lateran Treaties and Concordat
worked out between Italy’s fascist, atheist war criminal Benito Mussolini
and the Catholic Church’s aristocracy. This created the 109 acre Vatican
city state. For this the Vatican legitimised Mussolini’s autocratic hold on
power and proclaimed that he ruled by ‘divine providence’.

However, Dr. Lwanga conveniently, forgot to inform his congregation that the
arrangement between Mussolini and the Vatican compromised the latter, to the
extent that then reigning Popes Pius XI and XII kept quiet amid the gross
human rights abuses deliberately conducted by fascist states, ranging from
Franco’s Spain to Hitler’s Germany. Abuses that included the holocaust and
Operation Baborrossa.

In a secular democracy like Uganda, religious leaders should not use their
pulpits to propagate political messages. Religions follow a dogmatic creed
which stifles free debate. Furthermore, historically, the politicisation of
religion has resulted into political intolerance and tragic consequences.
This was so with the medieval crusaders. Indeed the intolerant creed of
Mackay (Makayi) and Lourdel (Mapera) bred Buganda’s 19th Century religious
wars. This consolidated Uganda’s tragic culture of religious sectarianism,
which President Museveni and the NRM have done so much to eradicate. As is
reflected through the NRM administration’s deliberate attempt to accommodate
the political representation of Catholics, Muslims and Anglicans.

The intrusion of religion into politics in Uganda as in the main society
offered murky results.

The Anglican and Catholic missionaries were the torch bearers of colonial
rule and its so called patronising civilising mission. And their so-called
missionary work offered the ideological justification of Pax Britannica in
Uganda.

Th

Re: [Ugnet] Re: Ugandanet Digest, Vol 210, Issue 4

[Mitayo Potosi]

> *Thank you compatriot Egesa for highlighting this aspect of Olara Otunnu;
> i.e. that he is out of touch for he has been out of the country for too
> long.
>
> Cognisant of that aspect you also have to acknowledge that living/hustling
> when one is out of ones country and succeeding is another school of hard
> knocks.
>
> You immediately can see that, say,  DP's Mao's  problem is having no clue
> of the dog eat dog forces in the wider world.
>
> Robert Musaazi-Namiti's articles in "The Uganda Record", about we Africans
> slavishly bowing to the fascistic racist white supremacists whose goal is
> only plunder  stems partly from our lack of exposure of the wider world.
>
> My take is that of all opposition leaders Dr Kizza-Besigye has the firmest
> touch with wananchi. While his eyes have been opened by the struggle to
> survive in a foreign land (i.e. South Africa) Otunnu beats him on this
> score.
>
> Besigye's camp again is saddled by those who see m7 as a formerly good man
> gone bad.
>
> My take is that since 1968 Museveni has been the same thug.
>
> He has never changed. It is just that it took many close to fifteen years,
> including Dr Muniini-Mulera here in Toronto, to see the true Museveni.
> There are even some oppositionists who see nothing wrong with Museveni but
> are just envious of him.
>
> So we are in a catch-22.
>
> All the world's vultures, Boers, WASPs, Serbs, Corporate vampires, the
> world's out-laws etc are descending on to Uganda to loot the Oil, gold,
> etc
>
> The peasant-like Norbert Mao, or Ssebana-Kizito would just be rolled over.
>
> Otunnu is not going to just let himself be run over by such scum.
>
> You cant take that away from him!!.
>
> Mitayo Potosi.
> === *
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:11 AM, EGESA RONALD LEONARD 
> wrote:
>
>> Otunnu is simply out of touch with the common Ugandan.
>>
>> My brother who is praising Olara Otunnu, am sorry to say that much as
>> Otunnu served in Uganda's government, his knowledge of Uganda is
>> slightly better than that of a newly born.
>>
>> Otunnu is simply out of touch and at least from my discourse with
>> corporate friends, I realise that he has even failed to win over this
>> section of society that would automatically fall in his target basing on
>> his cv.
>>
>> Otunnu is not a politician, he could serve better as a PRO of some
>> apolitical organisation. Ofcourse, the Baganda who continue to demonise
>> UPC are the self-seeking politicians hiding in Mengo.  Any sane Muganda
>> who remembers the questions Miria Obote asked in 2005 following the
>> death of Apollo Milton Obote;  She asked what they would do if they were
>> Obote and they were confronted by a Kabaka who was even a SOLDIER?? and
>> no one has ever answered him.
>>
>> Eversince Binaisa came back to Uganda, he has never hidden the fact that
>> as Attorney General, he advised Obote to attack Mengo and he(Binaisa)
>> went ahead to draft the pigeonhole constitution overnight. With all
>> these events, I would therefore find it foolhardy for any Muganda to
>> accuse UPC of wrongdoing. Mind you, Obote was the Chief Executive of the
>> country then and he could not risk the slightest error of judgement.
>>
>> What Obote did is what any CEO does and that is exactly what Museveni has
>> continued to do. Museveni as CEO and CIC(Commander in chief) could not
>> wait to get clearance from Mengo in order to visit Kasubi! People seem
>> not to understand what it means to be President, that is why the
>> Government of George Bush wielded so much power that it disregarded the
>> UN security council advice and attacked Iraq!
>>
>> Olara Otunnu has personal hatred for the person of Museveni and this
>> stems from the way Museveni outsmarted the Okellos(of which Olara Otunnu
>> was chief negotiator) in the Nairobi Talks of 1985. When they Okellos
>> and of course Olara Otunnu came back to Kampala, they announced that
>> they 'had de-fanged the snake in Museveni' and they had finally struck
>> a DEAL. The shrewd politician in Museveni came to the fore because as he
>> engaged them in talks in Nairobi, Saleh and the troops were plotting the
>> final assault in Kampala.
>>
>> This is the history of the mistrust Olara Otunnu has for Museveni, it is
>> understandable, but Olara needs to understand that Politics is not for
>> the morally upright, that is why himself while serving as UN ambassador,
>> did not hesitate to take on Foreign Affairs Ministerial post in an
>> illegitimate and accidental Government of the Okellos!
>>
>> My friend Olara Otunnu must also wake up and understand the demographics
>> of Uganda today. Many of the voters in 2011 are Museveni kids and
>> awakening the ghosts of Luweero will not help. Many of us who are
>> orphans and in this generation of the class of 80's have lost Parents
>> to HIV/AIDS, accidents, cholera, Ebola and others more than to WAR!
>> This message is not resonating well with minds of this class.
>>
>> If Otunnu was brilliant,