Re: [Ugnet] Lawyers, lawyers everywhere. It is the rule of law, or is it?

2011-07-28 Thread Mitayo Potosi
*I am in Toronto but we still can exchange ideas.

Mitayo Potosi*

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Mitayo Potosi mitayopoto...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Mr Sseppuuya,*Re: Lawyers, lawyers everywhere. It is the rule of law,
 or is it?*

 *It is sad that East Africa, following the colonial masters,  has all
 those incompetent lawyers in charge of our destiny.
 In our time there used to be streaming in schools. The best students,
 generally went into Science subjects and the second rate into Arts.

 Look at the likes of Peter Kabatsi, Sam Kuteesa, Elly Karuhanga, VP
 Ssekandi, Nuwa Amanya-Mushega, the late Omwony Ojok, Justice Ralph Ochan and
 all of those lawyers. None of them studied Maths/Numeracy beyond Senior Two.


 **Can you imagine it is these that negotiate contracts about the Oil
 fields? Yes fellows who got zero in Maths in S.2 at Budo are now in
 charge.

 Monsanto takes over the seed stock of East Africa after negotiating with
 guys who went to law school because they had some good grade in Religious
 studies or Shakespearean Literature or something of the sort.

 I once had a communication with the Dean of the Law Faculty at Makerere. He
 wrote to me that Science or Maths have nothing to do with Law. That
 Scientists here go to law school to avoid unemployment !!!*
 *
 In the West Law School is some kind of Graduate School (called
 post-graduate in Uganda).
 Here, after Engineering School  many go to Law School. After an
 undergraduate in Molecular and or Cell Biology one goes to Law school. It is
 such calibre of scholars that eventually found pharmaceutical and chemical
 industries, become the heads of Industry, or join** Government to write
 the Law** to protect citizens**, or work on patents**.

 Some of our lawyers have never had a class in basic science. Senior two
 Biology is just not good enough.

 The fraud here in the West is that the leaders in society are mostly clergy
 and lawyers.

 In China before 1945  Chairman Mao was a librarian. But the others -- Prime
 Minister Chu-en-Lai, General Lin Piao etc...  were all engineers.  Their
 Cabinets are mostly scientists and engineers.  How do the lawyers -  Obama
 and gang, compare with the Chinese in infrastructure building? Take the
 three Gorges Dam, Super highways, Bullet trains etc.
 America's Amtrak is a sick joke.

 What are your views on this issue?

 My other beef is that Three-year degrees ought to be phased out in Uganda.
 Let us have only four-year degrees.

 Mitayo Potosi.
 ==*
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 Full disclosure: For my undergraduate studies, I wanted to pursue law,
 having determined as a child that I would be a lawyer. I discounted the
 rather simplistic yet simple opinion that I had overheard my mother telling
 her sister, when I was 8 or 9 years old, that “lawyers are the people who
 say a thief did not steal”. When the time came I did apply, but Makerere Law
 School did not take me as I did not score the requisite marks at A-Level.

 I was therefore left to admire from the sidelines as many schoolmates made
 it into Law School. Many are now sound lawyers, magistrates and judges. It
 was during university time also that the broader rule of law was restored
 when the NRA swept to power, banishing state-inspired terror,
 re-establishing courts of law, and the revamping of the Uganda Law Society.
 The superstructure was rebuilt. But what is happening within the
 superstructure?

 One of the small benefits of travelling is the opportunity to see how
 things work elsewhere, or how they do not work in your country. A sojourn
 across the Malaba border point will instantly reveal that Kenya actually
 respects road reserves. They do not build in them the way Ugandans do. There
 is a by-law of preserving road reserves, and one suspects that Kenya’s road
 reserves by-law is the same as Uganda’s. This is only one of the many
 contraventions of law/statute/guideline that Ugandans happily live with. A
 few others:

 * Traffic laws: One-way streets, traffic lights, shoulders, speed limits,
 overtaking, helmets, seatbelts, talking on phone, drink-driving, tinted
 windows, motorcycle passenger limits
 *Construction: Many by-laws governing building are ignored
 * Copyright: TV stations and film halls translate wantonly; publications
 and music stations pirate
 *Registration of births/deaths: Births should be in 3 months, deaths in 1
 month
 *Littering *Firearms *First-come, first-served (not law, but good
 behaviour)
 *Noise: Discos and churches
 *Prevention of Cruelty to Animals: Overloading of 

Re: [Ugnet] Lawyers, lawyers everywhere. It is the rule of law, or is it?

2011-07-26 Thread Mitayo Potosi
Dear Mr Sseppuuya,*Re: Lawyers, lawyers everywhere. It is the rule of law,
or is it?*

*It is sad that East Africa, following the colonial masters,  has all those
incompetent lawyers in charge of our destiny.
In our time there used to be streaming in schools. The best students,
generally went into Science subjects and the second rate into Arts.

Look at the likes of Peter Kabatsi, Sam Kuteesa, Elly Karuhanga, VP
Ssekandi, Nuwa Amanya-Mushega, the late Omwony Ojok, Justice Ralph Ochan and
all of those lawyers. None of them studied Maths/Numeracy beyond Senior Two.


**Can you imagine it is these that negotiate contracts about the Oil fields?
Yes fellows who got zero in Maths in S.2 at Budo are now in charge.

Monsanto takes over the seed stock of East Africa after negotiating with
guys who went to law school because they had some good grade in Religious
studies or Shakespearean Literature or something of the sort.

I once had a communication with the Dean of the Law Faculty at Makerere. He
wrote to me that Science or Maths have nothing to do with Law. That
Scientists here go to law school to avoid unemployment !!!*
*
In the West Law School is some kind of Graduate School (called post-graduate
in Uganda).
Here, after Engineering School  many go to Law School. After an
undergraduate in Molecular and or Cell Biology one goes to Law school. It is
such calibre of scholars that eventually found pharmaceutical and chemical
industries, become the heads of Industry, or join** Government to write the
Law** to protect citizens**, or work on patents**.

Some of our lawyers have never had a class in basic science. Senior two
Biology is just not good enough.

The fraud here in the West is that the leaders in society are mostly clergy
and lawyers.

In China before 1945  Chairman Mao was a librarian. But the others -- Prime
Minister Chu-en-Lai, General Lin Piao etc...  were all engineers.  Their
Cabinets are mostly scientists and engineers.  How do the lawyers -  Obama
and gang, compare with the Chinese in infrastructure building? Take the
three Gorges Dam, Super highways, Bullet trains etc.
America's Amtrak is a sick joke.

What are your views on this issue?

My other beef is that Three-year degrees ought to be phased out in Uganda.
Let us have only four-year degrees.

Mitayo Potosi.
==*
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Full disclosure: For my undergraduate studies, I wanted to pursue law,
having determined as a child that I would be a lawyer. I discounted the
rather simplistic yet simple opinion that I had overheard my mother telling
her sister, when I was 8 or 9 years old, that “lawyers are the people who
say a thief did not steal”. When the time came I did apply, but Makerere Law
School did not take me as I did not score the requisite marks at A-Level.

I was therefore left to admire from the sidelines as many schoolmates made
it into Law School. Many are now sound lawyers, magistrates and judges. It
was during university time also that the broader rule of law was restored
when the NRA swept to power, banishing state-inspired terror,
re-establishing courts of law, and the revamping of the Uganda Law Society.
The superstructure was rebuilt. But what is happening within the
superstructure?

One of the small benefits of travelling is the opportunity to see how things
work elsewhere, or how they do not work in your country. A sojourn across
the Malaba border point will instantly reveal that Kenya actually respects
road reserves. They do not build in them the way Ugandans do. There is a
by-law of preserving road reserves, and one suspects that Kenya’s road
reserves by-law is the same as Uganda’s. This is only one of the many
contraventions of law/statute/guideline that Ugandans happily live with. A
few others:

* Traffic laws: One-way streets, traffic lights, shoulders, speed limits,
overtaking, helmets, seatbelts, talking on phone, drink-driving, tinted
windows, motorcycle passenger limits
*Construction: Many by-laws governing building are ignored
* Copyright: TV stations and film halls translate wantonly; publications and
music stations pirate
*Registration of births/deaths: Births should be in 3 months, deaths in 1
month
*Littering *Firearms *First-come, first-served (not law, but good behaviour)

*Noise: Discos and churches
*Prevention of Cruelty to Animals: Overloading of cows on trucks, chicken on
bicycles and buses
*Registration of places of worship; marrying in a registered place
*Rabies Act: Police have power to seize, detain or destroy stray animals
*Smoking in public places
*Enguli Act: