RE: ugnet_: Re: Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs bury differences\ Mukooza

2004-03-19 Thread ssenya nyange
Mukooza,
  I dont understand the name Zakoomu? What I know is that its a 
translation into "Ludikya"
i.e Mu- koo- za  becomes Za- koo- mu. Re- he- ma becomes Ma- he- re.  You 
must be good in that ludikya. I'm I right?

Ssenyange

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From: Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
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Subject: ugnet_: Re:  Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs bury differences\ Mukooza
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 21:04:38 -0800 (PST)

Ssenyange:

I sure do agree with you that changing our names is not easy.  However, I'm 
in that process and time will tell, I will change my name.  And I mean a 
legal change of my name!  This Arab name (Rehema) will be dropped in favor 
of a Kiganda-like name (Zakoomu?).  For Islam was about changing the soul 
to return back to Allah and not the name.  Prophet Jesus preached that 
"your body is your temple" and not your name.  The name shall not take me 
to heaven, but rather my actions and faith in Allah.

My new name will be Zakoomu Mukooza.  Why do you think I silence the name 
Rehema, and sign my postings as "Zakoomu R."??  I purposely silence Rehema 
(into "R.") and let my Zakoomu name ruin, and fill these discussion groups. 
 To hell with these Arabic or Western names that have nothing to do with 
my identity and my ancestors!

My kids will never ever have an Arabic or Western name!  That is an insult 
to our ancestors and future offsprings!  We need to get out of this 
colonial, inferior, slave mentality, were Africans think that they are 
incomplete without these foreign names!

For all members on these forums, from today onwards address me as Zakoomu 
or Mukooza.  Don't you ever insult me with this (Rehema) name!  I'm to 
change my email address name to "Zakoomu Mukooza" on [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
I've always been in this process anyway, this aint new to a great mind like 
mine.

Ssenyange, what did you name your daughter??  Did you continue with the 
colonial name "Harriet"??  You should never insult your daughter with that 
colonial name ever again, not even your children to come.

What is the use of Baptism of a toddler/infant??  Prophet Jesus was 
baptised as an adult with full knowledge of what he was doing.  Are you 
people really "Christians-(followers of the Christ)"??  This toddler/infant 
baptism is not in line with following the Christ's adult baptism.  Check 
into that, for that's erronous teaching right there!

In future, I'm to build the Zakoomu Empire with the logo name of "Zakoomu". 
 Just like the Trump empire!   Don't be surprised in future to see my 
businesses in Uganda with their logo name "Zakoomu".  Heh, that's how we 
are goin' it, playa!

I hate the excessive usage of words like enterprizes, business, LTD, .. and 
sons, etc on Ugandan businesses.  My empire will be in pure native Luganda 
or Luganda-like phrases.  Names like; Nyumba ya Zakoomu, Ddukka lya 
Zakoomu, Wooteri ya Zakoomu, Mizigo gya Zakoomu, Kolerero lya Zakoomu, 
Nnimiro ya Zakoomu, Katale ka Zakoomu, Oluguudo Zakoomu, etc!   This is how 
far I will take it!  You watch, I got my money and life in my body, why not 
take my dreams to the next level?

Zakoomu M.

ssenya nyange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ms Mukooza,
You askes Noc'ladumas:
---
>(where is your native name? -- I'm sick and tired of Africans with 
colonial
>names! -- Names like Noc'ladumas? Georges? which have nothing to do with
>Christianity for they existed before the birth of Jesus. -- Jesus never
>taught his subjects to change their native names to Jewish names! -- Did
>he?. For Prophet Jesus taught that "your body is your temple" and not 
your
>name!): Please add a native name to your colonial name!
-

I agree with you on the so called "christian" names.
However, you're one sided because you did not mention Arabic names ( call 
it
Islamic) like your, Rehema. Its disgusting to hear Africans calling them
selves Reagan, Clinton, Wilson, Henry, Allan, Roberts, Harriet. Its also
disgusting to hear African naming themselves Rehema, Saleh,Azziz, etc. All
these are european and Arabic names which have their meanings that we
Africans do know. The only exception is where the naming was from a famous
religious person like the desciples of Jesus, those men of Mohammed who 
took
over his work when he died ( desciples?) etc. I know many Kenyans who are
naming Africa names of Martyrs like Kizito, Gonzaga, etc. I salute them.

The religious leaders in Uganda\ Africa are so white
washed such that they insist that converts pick up a foreing name ( e.g
above) no matter what they mean. 4 years ago I read a news story that the
Imam of Makerere University was very critical of Mu7's brother, 
Akandwanaho,
calling him self Salim Saleh, that he's disguising himself as a Moslem.
Since when was Sal

Re: ugnet_: Re: Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs bury differences

2004-03-17 Thread okello
e killings of Luweero and people from other places. 
> 
>Zakoomu R. 
> 
>"Vovi Uganda e.V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: 
>One very important factor in this phenomenon, is the prime factor and mover behind the appology being discussed right now. At the centre of all these is a Foregin Born-Again Christian Sect prompted by and working together with Janet Museveni to lift up dictator Museveni's shattered political ego from Uganda's Political Takataka / dustbin. Much as I believe in Salvation through Jesus Christ with whom I have a special relationship, 
>I have not lost the awareness of born again christian sect who team up with evil and very satanic tyrants and governments in Latin America and Africa to create more obedient-sheep like citizens who should never question authorities, not join social movements, never oppose a government, that a / the government is divine etc. The born again cards kept Moi of Kenya going longer than he could have if he had to confront Ndinigi M. zeki of catholic Church and the Anglican Church of Kenya both of whom are known to have crossed roads with Moi on many occassion. But not once in the history of Kenya can anyone point out a single born again christian sect that sided with the victims of injustices and oppression. This is where the all issue of Luwero lies. 
>We need a through independent investigation in Luwero not an infected government session of apologies coming from traumatised victims of war from northern and eastern Uganda enticed by material gifts and gains, or opiumised by selected rehersed biblical verses. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>- Original Message - 
>From: Rehema Mukooza 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 7:54 AM 
>Subject: [Ugandacom] Re: Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs bury differences 
> 
> 
>Mulindwa: 
> 
>Hah!  Nnaye wabula musajja gwe omanyiira!  Sowing the Mustard Seed is a book dedicated towards the overthrow of democracy off the African subcontinent!  How can you claim that I'm following that book of evil from page to page??!  Mulindwa, man you owe to be careful with your words!  Don't you piss me off! 
> 
>Why were Luweero people welcoming an apology over nothing??  This is bizarre!  Are you trying to convience me that this welcoming of an apology from Acholi to Luweero people is another page of the Mustard Seed??  Mulindwa, instead of being careless with your words, why don't you throw light on my question and try to convience me and others of the Luweero war situation and what happened.  Be a responsible critical thinker! 
> 
>How far has Museveni's mustard seed grown??  How long can the mustard tree last after his life??  You need to be more serious than this, Mulindwa. 
> 
>Zakoomu R. 
> 
>Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: 
>Zakoomu seems to follow Mustard seed page to page 
> 
>Em 
> 
> 
>  The Mulindwas Communication Group 
>"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" 
> Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
>"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" 
> 
>- Original Message - 
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 3:34 AM 
>Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re: Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs bury differences 
> 
> 
>In a message dated 3/13/2004 8:40:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
>Members: 
> 
>Why did Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs refuse to bury (apologize) their differences with Luweero people??  How come they have "buried" differences among themselves??  Could this be tribalism at the hightest degree??  I'm beginning to think that Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs are discriminating against Luweero people!!  Why is that?? 
> 
>Zakoomu R 
> 
>Rehema: 
> 
>I think you are taking on too many points that are beyond your grasp yet. 
>1. You do not know what you are talking about. 
> a) Acholi do not have any differences with Luwero people. you and some of your false propagandist are the ones attempting to create a difference between Acholi and so called Luwero people. 
> b) Uganda government is not a protege of Acholi people. 
> c) There has been no pronouncement from Acholi leaders negative towards any other tribes. 
>2. You could be an agent provocateur on a mission to destroy understanding among different people. 
> 
>So you need to scale back you rigmarole on Ugandanet. 
> 
>Oracha 
> 
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Re: [Ugandacom] RE: ugnet_: Re: Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs bury differences

2004-03-16 Thread NOC´LADUMAS GEORGES

On the contrary!
>From: "Vovi Uganda e.V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [Ugandacom] RE: ugnet_: Re: Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs bury differences 
>Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 15:44:12 +0100 
> 
>Don't you know how to locate them 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: NOC´LADUMAS GEORGES 
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 2:10 PM 
>   Subject: Re: [Ugandacom] RE: ugnet_: Re: Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs bury differences 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Not good enough! This is very serious matter that can not be left to insinuations. 
> 
> 
> 
>   Is that what the religious leaders from Acoli Lango and Teso say? They are there.They can shed light on this and help insinuations and speculations. What have the Religious Leaders themselves come out with on this issue? Why speculate / insinuate as if the Religious Leaders do not exist? They are there. 
> 
>   DID THEY OR DID THEY NOT MEET? Who summoned the meeting, what was the agenda and what was their pronouncements? 
> 
>   What is the name of that SECT you keep referring to? 
> 
>   Did the Religious leaders directly or otherwise come to a understanding that THEY should apologize or did they agree that Acoli should do it? 
> 
>   I think the confusion here is based on the Religious Leaders silence. 
> 
>   Where did you get your information about that SECT? Did they corrupt all the Religious Leaders fraternity or only those from Teso and Lango? Since you know a lot about this sect, you probably also know about their methods and who their target was? 
> 
>   Were those from Acoli pressurized under black mail? 
> 
>   rgds noc'l 
> 
>   >From: "Vovi Uganda e.V." 
>   >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   >To: , ,, 
>   >Subject: Re: [Ugandacom] RE: ugnet_: Re: Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs bury differences 
>   >Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:44:39 +0100 
>   > 
>   >It might help a lot if you take the trouble to re-read my posting on this subject; It was and still is a certain born again sect! 
>   >   - Original Message ----- 
>   >   From: NOC´LADUMAS GEORGES 
>   >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   >   Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:36 AM 
>   >   Subject: [Ugandacom] RE: ugnet_: Re: Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs bury differences 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   Mates Oraca and Zakoomu(Rehema Mukooza), 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >Firstly I salute your extra energy despite parallel / divergent vantage points which focal point (even cyber wise) is way out of prevalent endurances of our commonality. 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   What is wrong with you guys, do you not see that even at the proceeding points, you are talking of different things while looking at the same status quo? 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   Oracha is talking about Acoli while Zakoomu (Mukooza) is talking about Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs or what ever. WHICH IS WHICH? 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   I suppose you do yourselves more justice if you first resolve that difference. Perhaps there in lies also the central issue. 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   For example, how come or when did the " ACHOLI, LANGO AND TESO" mysteriously vanished from the Religious leaders declaration only to transpire as "ACOLI TO APOLOGISE"? That is a very central question. 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   Some contrivers must have connived to alter the final deliberation. 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   Were the ARLPI pre conditioned by the religious leaders from Lango and Teso in some sinister black mail that criteria for continued coordination was for Acoli to apologize? 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   Me think some thing is very wrong with the oneness / togetherness of the so-called Religious leaders. Their fucking unity is nothing but cyber unity. If it were that Acoli, Lango and Atesot should apologize (which it self, was already bad enough and completely liberated from intelligence), where did this "Acoli to apologize" come from? 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   I smell an abominable fucking rat in the religious leaders!! 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   It is not the art and the science parts of Musseveni's politics at work but the religious leaders are biased. 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   I want to know when and why did ACOLI, LANGI AND ATESOT become A

Re: [Ugandacom] RE: ugnet_: Re: Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs bury differences

2004-03-15 Thread NOC´LADUMAS GEORGES


Not good enough! This is very serious matter that can not be left to insinuations.


Is that what the religious leaders from Acoli Lango and Teso say? They are there.They can shed light on this and help insinuations and speculations. What have the Religious Leaders themselves come out with on this issue? Why speculate / insinuate as if the Religious Leaders do not exist? They are there. 
DID THEY OR DID THEY NOT MEET? Who summoned the meeting, what was the agenda and what was their pronouncements?
What is the name of that SECT you keep referring to?
Did the Religious leaders directly or otherwise come to a understanding that THEY should apologize or did they agree that Acoli should do it?
I think the confusion here is based on the Religious Leaders silence.
Where did you get your information about that SECT? Did they corrupt all the Religious Leaders fraternity or only those from Teso and Lango? Since you know a lot about this sect, you probably also know about their methods and who their target was?
Were those from Acoli pressurized under black mail?
rgds noc'l
>From: "Vovi Uganda e.V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [Ugandacom] RE: ugnet_: Re: Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs bury differences 
>Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:44:39 +0100 
> 
>It might help a lot if you take the trouble to re-read my posting on this subject; It was and still is a certain born again sect! 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: NOC´LADUMAS GEORGES 
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:36 AM 
>   Subject: [Ugandacom] RE: ugnet_: Re: Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs bury differences 
> 
> 
>   Mates Oraca and Zakoomu(Rehema Mukooza), 
> 
> 
> 
>Firstly I salute your extra energy despite parallel / divergent vantage points which focal point (even cyber wise) is way out of prevalent endurances of our commonality. 
> 
> 
> 
>   What is wrong with you guys, do you not see that even at the proceeding points, you are talking of different things while looking at the same status quo? 
> 
> 
> 
>   Oracha is talking about Acoli while Zakoomu (Mukooza) is talking about Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs or what ever. WHICH IS WHICH? 
> 
> 
> 
>   I suppose you do yourselves more justice if you first resolve that difference. Perhaps there in lies also the central issue. 
> 
> 
> 
>   For example, how come or when did the " ACHOLI, LANGO AND TESO" mysteriously vanished from the Religious leaders declaration only to transpire as "ACOLI TO APOLOGISE"? That is a very central question. 
> 
> 
> 
>   Some contrivers must have connived to alter the final deliberation. 
> 
> 
> 
>   Were the ARLPI pre conditioned by the religious leaders from Lango and Teso in some sinister black mail that criteria for continued coordination was for Acoli to apologize? 
> 
> 
> 
>   Me think some thing is very wrong with the oneness / togetherness of the so-called Religious leaders. Their fucking unity is nothing but cyber unity. If it were that Acoli, Lango and Atesot should apologize (which it self, was already bad enough and completely liberated from intelligence), where did this "Acoli to apologize" come from? 
> 
> 
> 
>   I smell an abominable fucking rat in the religious leaders!! 
> 
> 
> 
>   It is not the art and the science parts of Musseveni's politics at work but the religious leaders are biased. 
> 
> 
> 
>   I want to know when and why did ACOLI, LANGI AND ATESOT become ACOLI? 
> 
>   Could some Samaritan help out so we can advance better? 
> 
>   Rgds 
>   Noc'l gaumoy 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   >From: Rehema Mukooza 
>   >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   >Subject: ugnet_: Re:  Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs bury differences 
>   >Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 00:55:22 -0800 (PST) 
>   > 
>   >Vovi: 
>   > 
>   >This is what I'm talking about.  We need an independent investigation in the Luweero massacres.  We shall all be suprised to see all of these men involved; Mu7, Obote, Okello involved in the killings of Luweero and people from other places. 
>   > 
>   >Zakoomu R. 
>   > 
>   >"Vovi Uganda e.V." wrote: 
>   >One very important factor in this phenomenon, is the prime factor and mover behind the appology being discussed right now. At the centre of all these is a Foregin Born-Again Christian Sect prompted by and working together with Janet Museveni to lift up dictator Museveni's shattered political ego from Uganda's Political Takataka / 

RE: ugnet_: Re: Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs bury differences

2004-03-15 Thread NOC´LADUMAS GEORGES
be more serious than this, Mulindwa. 
> 
>Zakoomu R. 
> 
>Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: 
>Zakoomu seems to follow Mustard seed page to page 
> 
>Em 
> 
> 
>  The Mulindwas Communication Group 
>"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" 
> Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
>"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" 
> 
>- Original Message - 
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 3:34 AM 
>Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re: Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs bury differences 
> 
> 
>In a message dated 3/13/2004 8:40:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
>Members: 
> 
>Why did Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs refuse to bury (apologize) their differences with Luweero people??  How come they have "buried" differences among themselves??  Could this be tribalism at the hightest degree??  I'm beginning to think that Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs are discriminating against Luweero people!!  Why is that?? 
> 
>Zakoomu R 
> 
>Rehema: 
> 
>I think you are taking on too many points that are beyond your grasp yet. 
>1. You do not know what you are talking about. 
> a) Acholi do not have any differences with Luwero people. you and some of your false propagandist are the ones attempting to create a difference between Acholi and so called Luwero people. 
> b) Uganda government is not a protege of Acholi people. 
> c) There has been no pronouncement from Acholi leaders negative towards any other tribes. 
>2. You could be an agent provocateur on a mission to destroy understanding among different people. 
> 
>So you need to scale back you rigmarole on Ugandanet. 
> 
>Oracha 
> 
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Re: ugnet_: Re: Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs bury differences

2004-03-14 Thread Edward Mulindwa



Zakoomu seems to follow Mustard seed page to page
 
Em
 
 
 The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is 
in 
anarchy"    
Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans 
l'anarchie"

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 3:34 
AM
  Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re: Acholi, Lango, 
  Teso MPs bury differences
  
  
  In a message dated 3/13/2004 8:40:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
Members:
 
Why did Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs refuse to bury 
(apologize) their differences with Luweero people??  How come 
they have "buried" differences among themselves??  Could this be 
tribalism at the hightest degree??  I'm beginning to think that Acholi, 
Lango, Teso MPs are discriminating against Luweero people!!  Why is 
that??
 
Zakoomu R
  Rehema:
   
  I think you are taking on too many points that are beyond your grasp yet. 
  
  1. You do not know what you are talking about.
      a) Acholi do not have any differences with Luwero 
  people. you and some of your false propagandist are the ones attempting to 
  create a difference between Acholi and so called Luwero people.
      b) Uganda government is not a protege of Acholi 
  people.
      c) There has been no pronouncement from Acholi leaders 
  negative towards any other tribes.
  2. You could be an agent provocateur on a mission to destroy 
  understanding among different people.
   
  So you need to scale back you rigmarole on Ugandanet.
   
  Oracha


Re: ugnet_: Re: Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs bury differences

2004-03-14 Thread Joracha1



In a message dated 3/13/2004 8:40:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Members:
 
Why did Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs refuse to bury (apologize) their differences with Luweero people??  How come they have "buried" differences among themselves??  Could this be tribalism at the hightest degree??  I'm beginning to think that Acholi, Lango, Teso MPs are discriminating against Luweero people!!  Why is that??
 
Zakoomu R
Rehema:
 
I think you are taking on too many points that are beyond your grasp yet. 
1. You do not know what you are talking about.
    a) Acholi do not have any differences with Luwero people. you and some of your false propagandist are the ones attempting to create a difference between Acholi and so called Luwero people.
    b) Uganda government is not a protege of Acholi people.
    c) There has been no pronouncement from Acholi leaders negative towards any other tribes.
2. You could be an agent provocateur on a mission to destroy understanding among different people.
 
So you need to scale back you rigmarole on Ugandanet.
 
Oracha