Re: UIMA-AS client dependencies

2009-10-16 Thread Jörn Kottmann

Marshall Schor wrote:

I took a look at the dependencies for the uimaj-as-activemq project,
using the tools: mvn dependency:analyze and mvn dependency:tree and
here's what I found.

1) uimaj-examples is a testing dependency - I'll change the scope.
2) There are some dependencies coded in what appears to be a strange
way.  Here's an example:

dependency
groupIdorg.apache.activemq/groupId
artifactIdactivemq-optional/artifactId
version4.1.1/version
exclusions
exclusion
groupIdorg.apache.activemq/groupId
artifactIdactivemq-optional/artifactId
/exclusion
   /exclusions
/dependency

This says include
  org.apache.activemq:activemq-optional:jar:4.1.1:compile, but exclude
  org.apache.activemq:activemq-optional

I think what this was attempting to do was to exclude activemq-optional,
which was being brought in as a transitive dependency.  This doesn't
work, as evidenced by using mvn dependency:tree, so I'm removing it.

The xstream dependency turns out to be just a testcase dependency, so
I'm changing that scope to test.

I ran mvn dependency:tree -Dverbose and got a complete listing of the
dependencies, and after review the only one I think I can safely exclude
is the activemq-web-demo. 


I'll make a jira for this.

-Marshall

  

Thanks Marshall good job.

The ActiveMQ guys say that in a minimal configuration
you only need these jars:

   * activemq-core.jar
   * commons-logging.jar
   * geronimo-spec-jms.jar
   * geronimo-spec-jta.jar
   * geronimo-spec-j2ee-management.jar

Optional the spring.jar is needed for xml based configuration
and the persistence jar for persistence.

The required jars are combined in an activemq.jar
file. Do you think we can just take this activemq.jar file
and combine it with the uima jars for a client ?

If so we might want to say that in our documentation, because
it makes it easier to get started with UIMA-AS.

Jörn

http://activemq.apache.org/version-5-initial-configuration.html


UIMA-AS client dependencies

2009-10-15 Thread Jörn Kottmann

Hi everyone,

I have a small UIMA AS clients which is build with maven,
it depends on uimaj-core, uimaj-as-core and uimj-as-activemq.

The list of dependencies is very long and I wonder it
that is really necessary, since I have to run
this little tool on a server the classpath
in my start script gets a mile long.

Would it be possible to reduce the amount
of dependencies ?

e.g. uimaj-examples could be a good candidate to remove

Jörn


Re: UIMA-AS client dependencies

2009-10-15 Thread Marshall Schor


Jörn Kottmann wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I have a small UIMA AS clients which is build with maven,
 it depends on uimaj-core, uimaj-as-core and uimj-as-activemq.

 The list of dependencies is very long and I wonder it
 that is really necessary, since I have to run
 this little tool on a server the classpath
 in my start script gets a mile long.
You might be able to use the new bootstrap loader (see the
uimaj-bootstrap project) to reduce the class path.

 Would it be possible to reduce the amount
 of dependencies ?
Probably.  We've tried, but have gotten into trouble, for instance, when
we launched a uima-as client with only some of the active-mq jars, only
to find that under some error conditions (e.g., the broker failing), the
behavior became unstable.  So it would have to be carefully investigated.

 e.g. uimaj-examples could be a good candidate to remove
I tried removing it (in Eclipse, from the build path) and that seemed to
not cause any problems, so it's probably a good candidate to remove.

-Marshall


 Jörn




Re: UIMA-AS client dependencies

2009-10-15 Thread Jörn Kottmann

Marshall Schor wrote:

Jörn Kottmann wrote:
  

Hi everyone,

I have a small UIMA AS clients which is build with maven,
it depends on uimaj-core, uimaj-as-core and uimj-as-activemq.

The list of dependencies is very long and I wonder it
that is really necessary, since I have to run
this little tool on a server the classpath
in my start script gets a mile long.


You might be able to use the new bootstrap loader (see the
uimaj-bootstrap project) to reduce the class path.
  

Would it be possible to reduce the amount
of dependencies ?


Probably.  We've tried, but have gotten into trouble, for instance, when
we launched a uima-as client with only some of the active-mq jars, only
to find that under some error conditions (e.g., the broker failing), the
behavior became unstable.  So it would have to be carefully investigated.
  

e.g. uimaj-examples could be a good candidate to remove


I tried removing it (in Eclipse, from the build path) and that seemed to
not cause any problems, so it's probably a good candidate to remove.
  

There are optional dependencies which are made non-optional
through maven, because they are just normal dependencies.

Here is a list taken from uimaj-as-activemq, maybe we can handle
that a bit different, and I really doubt that we need them all.

   dependency
   groupIdcommons-beanutils/groupId
   artifactIdcommons-beanutils/artifactId
   version1.6.1/version
   /dependency
  
   dependency

   groupIdcommons-collections/groupId
   artifactIdcommons-collections/artifactId
   version2.1/version
   /dependency

   dependency
   groupIdcommons-dbcp/groupId
   artifactIdcommons-dbcp/artifactId
   version1.2/version
   /dependency

   dependency
   groupIdcommons-pool/groupId
   artifactIdcommons-pool/artifactId
   version1.2/version
   /dependency

   dependency
   groupIdorg.apache.geronimo.specs/groupId
   artifactIdgeronimo-j2ee-connector_1.5_spec/artifactId
   version1.0/version
   /dependency

   dependency
   groupIdorg.apache.geronimo.specs/groupId
   artifactIdgeronimo-j2ee-jacc_1.0_spec/artifactId
   version1.0/version
   /dependency

   dependency
   groupIdactivemq/groupId
   artifactIdjmdns/artifactId
   version1.0-RC2/version
   /dependency

   dependency
   groupIdlog4j/groupId
   artifactIdlog4j/artifactId
   version1.2.12/version
   /dependency

   dependency
   groupIdmx4j/groupId
   artifactIdmx4j-remote/artifactId
   version2.1.1/version
   /dependency

   dependency
   groupIdmx4j/groupId
   artifactIdmx4j-tools/artifactId
   version2.1.1/version
   /dependency


   dependency
   groupIdorg.apache.uima/groupId
   artifactIduimaj-as-core/artifactId
   version${uimaj-as-release-version}/version
   scopecompile/scope
   /dependency

   dependency
   groupIdorg.apache.uima/groupId
   artifactIduimaj-as-jms/artifactId
   version${uimaj-as-release-version}/version
   scopecompile/scope
   /dependency
  
   dependency

   groupIdcommons-httpclient/groupId
   artifactIdcommons-httpclient/artifactId
   version2.0.1/version
   /dependency

   dependency
   groupIdorg.mortbay.jetty/groupId
   artifactIdjetty/artifactId
   version6.0.1/version
   /dependency

   dependency
   groupIdorg.mortbay.jetty/groupId
   artifactIdjetty-util/artifactId
   version6.0.1/version
   /dependency

   dependency
   groupIdorg.mortbay.jetty/groupId
   artifactIdservlet-api-2.5/artifactId
   version6.0.1/version
   /dependency
  
   dependency

   groupIdxmlpull/groupId
   artifactIdxmlpull/artifactId
   version1.1.3.4d_b4_min/version
   /dependency
  
   dependency

   groupIdcom.thoughtworks.xstream/groupId
   artifactIdxstream/artifactId
   version1.2.2/version
   /dependency
  
   dependency

   groupIdorg.apache.derby/groupId
   artifactIdderby/artifactId
   version10.1.1.0/version
   /dependency
  
   dependency

   groupIdorg.apache.xbean/groupId
   artifactIdxbean-spring/artifactId
   version2.8/version
   /dependency

Jörn


Re: UIMA-AS client dependencies

2009-10-15 Thread Marshall Schor


Jörn Kottmann wrote:
 Marshall Schor wrote:
 Jörn Kottmann wrote:
  
 Hi everyone,

 I have a small UIMA AS clients which is build with maven,
 it depends on uimaj-core, uimaj-as-core and uimj-as-activemq.

 The list of dependencies is very long and I wonder it
 that is really necessary, since I have to run
 this little tool on a server the classpath
 in my start script gets a mile long.
 
 You might be able to use the new bootstrap loader (see the
 uimaj-bootstrap project) to reduce the class path.
  
 Would it be possible to reduce the amount
 of dependencies ?
 
 Probably.  We've tried, but have gotten into trouble, for instance, when
 we launched a uima-as client with only some of the active-mq jars, only
 to find that under some error conditions (e.g., the broker failing), the
 behavior became unstable.  So it would have to be carefully
 investigated.
  
 e.g. uimaj-examples could be a good candidate to remove
 
 I tried removing it (in Eclipse, from the build path) and that seemed to
 not cause any problems, so it's probably a good candidate to remove.
   
 There are optional dependencies which are made non-optional
 through maven, because they are just normal dependencies.

 Here is a list taken from uimaj-as-activemq, maybe we can handle
 that a bit different, and I really doubt that we need them all.
OK.  I'll take a close look...
-Marshall

dependency
groupIdcommons-beanutils/groupId
artifactIdcommons-beanutils/artifactId
version1.6.1/version
/dependency
  dependency
groupIdcommons-collections/groupId
artifactIdcommons-collections/artifactId
version2.1/version
/dependency

dependency
groupIdcommons-dbcp/groupId
artifactIdcommons-dbcp/artifactId
version1.2/version
/dependency

dependency
groupIdcommons-pool/groupId
artifactIdcommons-pool/artifactId
version1.2/version
/dependency

dependency
groupIdorg.apache.geronimo.specs/groupId
artifactIdgeronimo-j2ee-connector_1.5_spec/artifactId
version1.0/version
/dependency

dependency
groupIdorg.apache.geronimo.specs/groupId
artifactIdgeronimo-j2ee-jacc_1.0_spec/artifactId
version1.0/version
/dependency

dependency
groupIdactivemq/groupId
artifactIdjmdns/artifactId
version1.0-RC2/version
/dependency

dependency
groupIdlog4j/groupId
artifactIdlog4j/artifactId
version1.2.12/version
/dependency

dependency
groupIdmx4j/groupId
artifactIdmx4j-remote/artifactId
version2.1.1/version
/dependency

dependency
groupIdmx4j/groupId
artifactIdmx4j-tools/artifactId
version2.1.1/version
/dependency


dependency
groupIdorg.apache.uima/groupId
artifactIduimaj-as-core/artifactId
version${uimaj-as-release-version}/version
scopecompile/scope
/dependency

dependency
groupIdorg.apache.uima/groupId
artifactIduimaj-as-jms/artifactId
version${uimaj-as-release-version}/version
scopecompile/scope
/dependency
  dependency
groupIdcommons-httpclient/groupId
artifactIdcommons-httpclient/artifactId
version2.0.1/version
/dependency

dependency
groupIdorg.mortbay.jetty/groupId
artifactIdjetty/artifactId
version6.0.1/version
/dependency

dependency
groupIdorg.mortbay.jetty/groupId
artifactIdjetty-util/artifactId
version6.0.1/version
/dependency

dependency
groupIdorg.mortbay.jetty/groupId
artifactIdservlet-api-2.5/artifactId
version6.0.1/version
/dependency
  dependency
groupIdxmlpull/groupId
artifactIdxmlpull/artifactId
version1.1.3.4d_b4_min/version
/dependency
  dependency
groupIdcom.thoughtworks.xstream/groupId
artifactIdxstream/artifactId
version1.2.2/version
/dependency
  dependency
groupIdorg.apache.derby/groupId
artifactIdderby/artifactId
version10.1.1.0/version
/dependency
  dependency
groupIdorg.apache.xbean/groupId
artifactIdxbean-spring/artifactId
version2.8/version
/dependency

 Jörn




Re: UIMA-AS client dependencies

2009-10-15 Thread Marshall Schor
I took a look at the dependencies for the uimaj-as-activemq project,
using the tools: mvn dependency:analyze and mvn dependency:tree and
here's what I found.

1) uimaj-examples is a testing dependency - I'll change the scope.
2) There are some dependencies coded in what appears to be a strange
way.  Here's an example:

dependency
groupIdorg.apache.activemq/groupId
artifactIdactivemq-optional/artifactId
version4.1.1/version
exclusions
exclusion
groupIdorg.apache.activemq/groupId
artifactIdactivemq-optional/artifactId
/exclusion
   /exclusions
/dependency

This says include
  org.apache.activemq:activemq-optional:jar:4.1.1:compile, but exclude
  org.apache.activemq:activemq-optional

I think what this was attempting to do was to exclude activemq-optional,
which was being brought in as a transitive dependency.  This doesn't
work, as evidenced by using mvn dependency:tree, so I'm removing it.

The xstream dependency turns out to be just a testcase dependency, so
I'm changing that scope to test.

I ran mvn dependency:tree -Dverbose and got a complete listing of the
dependencies, and after review the only one I think I can safely exclude
is the activemq-web-demo. 

I'll make a jira for this.

-Marshall





Jörn Kottmann wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I have a small UIMA AS clients which is build with maven,
 it depends on uimaj-core, uimaj-as-core and uimj-as-activemq.

 The list of dependencies is very long and I wonder it
 that is really necessary, since I have to run
 this little tool on a server the classpath
 in my start script gets a mile long.

 Would it be possible to reduce the amount
 of dependencies ?

 e.g. uimaj-examples could be a good candidate to remove

 Jörn