Re: [Unattended] Can't find domain

[Ryan Nowakowski]

On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 10:34:23AM -0500, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote:
> The Linux boot disk will use DNS for name resolution (of course).

We *can* get the Linux boot disk to use WINS for name resolution if we
have too for some reason.

- Ryan


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Re: [Unattended] Can't find domain

[Patrick J. LoPresti]

"Patrick J. LoPresti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Well, it turns out that the MSCLIENT stack *can* do DNS resolution;
> you just have to load the "dnr.exe" tool first.  And possibly
> configure it.

I finally got around to experimenting with this, only to find that
dnr.exe is only useful for "ping".  It does not enable DNS resolution
for "net use", so this is a dead end.

The Linux boot disk will use DNS for name resolution (of course).

 - Pat


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Re: [Unattended] Can't find domain

[Jose Diaz]

Justin,
Please try adding and entry like this to LMHOSTS:
192.168.200.1   DCNAME #PRE  #DOM:DOMAINNAME

You must use short (NETBIOS) names for both your Domain Contoller and 
Domain Names. Hope this Helps.

Best Regards,
Jose A. Diaz
Justin Beckley wrote:



I was having problems installing a couple of boxes from a different 
subnet, because they couldn't resolve the server name.  I added the 
name and IP address of the server to the lmhosts file on the cd and 
that fixed the problem, until Windows tries to join up to the 
domain.  During the installation, a message pops up that says the 
Domain controller couldn't be reached, and I tell it to continue and 
join later.  Well once Windows finishes installing, nothing happens, 
because the server still cannot be reached, so it just sits there.  
I tried adding the server to the Windows hosts 
(/Windows/system32/drivers/etc) file, but that didn't help either.  
Any other suggestions on how to resolve the issue?

Justin Beckley

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Re: [Unattended] Can't find domain

[Scott McNay]

Hi Justin,

Thursday, January 29, 2004, 7:40:57 AM, you wrote:

JB> I can ping the server if I fill out the whole IP name, ie. 
JB> myDC.ece.utk.edu will ping successfully, but myDC would fail. The "net
JB> use" command is old enough that myDC.ece.utk.edu will not work with it,
JB> but if you use the "Map Network Drive" feature, you can use the whole IP
JB> name. I think that if I can add the proper entries to the lmhosts file,
JB> it should work with just the name.  Maybe I am wrong about this? Anyone
JB> got any suggestions?

Sounds like perhaps you're using a standard internet name server
instead of the domain name server.

--Scott.

JB> Scott McNay wrote:

>>JB> I was having problems installing a couple of boxes from a different
>>JB> subnet, because they couldn't resolve the server name.  I added the name
>>JB> and IP address of the server to the lmhosts file on the cd and that
>>JB> fixed the problem, until Windows tries to join up to the domain.  During
>>JB> the installation, a message pops up that says the Domain controller
>>JB> couldn't be reached, and I tell it to continue and join later.  Well
>>JB> once Windows finishes installing, nothing happens, because the server
>>JB> still cannot be reached, so it just sits there.  I tried adding the
>>JB> server to the Windows hosts (/Windows/system32/drivers/etc) file, but
>>JB> that didn't help either.  Any other suggestions on how to resolve the issue?




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RE: [Unattended] Can't find domain

[Brad Erdman]

Hi,

Do you have WINS setup in your environment?  That is MS preferred way to
browse across subnets.

Brad

> -Original Message-
> From: Justin Beckley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Unattended] Can't find domain
> 
> I was having problems installing a couple of boxes from a different
> subnet, because they couldn't resolve the server name.  I added the name
> and IP address of the server to the lmhosts file on the cd and that
> fixed the problem, until Windows tries to join up to the domain.  During
> the installation, a message pops up that says the Domain controller
> couldn't be reached, and I tell it to continue and join later.  Well
> once Windows finishes installing, nothing happens, because the server
> still cannot be reached, so it just sits there.  I tried adding the
> server to the Windows hosts (/Windows/system32/drivers/etc) file, but
> that didn't help either.  Any other suggestions on how to resolve the
> issue?
> 
> Justin Beckley
> 
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Re: [Unattended] Can't find domain

[Patrick J. LoPresti]

Well, it turns out that the MSCLIENT stack *can* do DNS resolution;
you just have to load the "dnr.exe" tool first.  And possibly
configure it.

I have put a copy of dnr.exe in
.  To try it:

  1) Add it to your boot disk
  2) Edit \net\tcputils.ini to add a section like this:

   [DNR]
   drivername=DNR$
   bindings=TCPIP_XIF

  3) Invoke it from autoexec.bat (just after "tinyrfc.exe")

Then maybe (big maybe) you will be able to map shares by DNS name.  Or
maybe you will have to add some DNS servers by hand...  I honestly do
not know.  But it is worth a shot :-).

 - Pat

Justin Beckley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I can ping the server if I fill out the whole IP name,
> ie. myDC.ece.utk.edu will ping successfully, but myDC would fail.  The
> "net use" command is old enough that myDC.ece.utk.edu will not work
> with it, but if you use the "Map Network Drive" feature, you can use
> the whole IP name. I think that if I can add the proper entries to the
> lmhosts file, it should work with just the name.  Maybe I am wrong
> about this? Anyone got any suggestions?
> 
> Justin Beckley


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Re: [Unattended] Can't find domain

[Justin Beckley]

I can ping the server if I fill out the whole IP name, ie. 
myDC.ece.utk.edu will ping successfully, but myDC would fail.  The "net 
use" command is old enough that myDC.ece.utk.edu will not work with it, 
but if you use the "Map Network Drive" feature, you can use the whole IP 
name. I think that if I can add the proper entries to the lmhosts file, 
it should work with just the name.  Maybe I am wrong about this? Anyone 
got any suggestions?

Justin Beckley

Scott McNay wrote:

Hi Justin,

Wednesday, January 28, 2004, 1:56:06 PM, you wrote:

JB> I was having problems installing a couple of boxes from a different
JB> subnet, because they couldn't resolve the server name.  I added the name
JB> and IP address of the server to the lmhosts file on the cd and that
JB> fixed the problem, until Windows tries to join up to the domain.  During
JB> the installation, a message pops up that says the Domain controller
JB> couldn't be reached, and I tell it to continue and join later.  Well
JB> once Windows finishes installing, nothing happens, because the server
JB> still cannot be reached, so it just sits there.  I tried adding the
JB> server to the Windows hosts (/Windows/system32/drivers/etc) file, but
JB> that didn't help either.  Any other suggestions on how to resolve the issue?
You checked to be sure that you can ping, etc., the server?

--Scott.

 



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RE: [Unattended] Can't find domain

[Brad Erdman]

OK, here are some basic suggestions that you have probably already looked
at:

1. In your unattended.txt, do you specify the DNS servers?
2. Are these DNS servers able to resolve the domain (e.g. try resolving
domain.com)?
3. After the machine is installed, are the values in the DNS servers box
correct?
4. Can you join the machine to the domain after the install terminates
early?

Brad

> -Original Message-
> From: Justin Beckley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 3:00 PM
> To: Michelangelo Bottura; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Unattended] Can't find domain
> 
> I need to join an XP machine to a Windows 2000 (AD) domain.  I have
> edited the lmhosts file, and that will resolve the issue once Windows
> has been fully installed.  While XP is installing it tries to join our
> domain, but it won't be able to, because the lmhosts file is straight
> from the i386 directory.  I tried editing that file by extracting its
> contents then rearchiving them, but when I looked at the machine again,
> the lmhosts file was just an archive, I suppose because I don't know how
> to rearchive the way Windows wants it.  I am not really sure if my idea
> of editting the i386\lmhosts file is a good idea, but I'll post my
> results once it has installed.  If anyone knows how to edit those files,
> or has any other suggestions feel free to let me know.
> 
> Justin Beckley
> 
> Michelangelo Bottura wrote:
> 
> > I suppose you tried
> > c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\lmhosts
> >
> > You need to join to a NT4 or Windows2000 (AD) domain?
> >
> > For the latter you need a particular syntax in lmhosts file (which i
> > may be able to provide searching on my past records), while in AD you
> > should have dns server providing full name for the domain controller
> > (ie: non need to modify anything).
> > That said, i never tried to do an unattended installl trhu a subnet so
> > i'd be interested on the outcome - let me know
> >
> > Regards
> > Michelangelo Bottura - sysadm
> > Psychology Dept.
> > University of Bologna
> > ITALY
> >
> > Justin Beckley wrote:
> >
> >> I was having problems installing a couple of boxes from a different
> >> subnet, because they couldn't resolve the server name.  I added the
> >> name and IP address of the server to the lmhosts file on the cd and
> >> that fixed the problem, until Windows tries to join up to the
> >> domain.  During the installation, a message pops up that says the
> >> Domain controller couldn't be reached, and I tell it to continue and
> >> join later.  Well once Windows finishes installing, nothing happens,
> >> because the server still cannot be reached, so it just sits there.  I
> >> tried adding the server to the Windows hosts
> >> (/Windows/system32/drivers/etc) file, but that didn't help either.
> >> Any other suggestions on how to resolve the issue?
> >>
> >> Justin Beckley
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Unattended] Can't find domain

[Justin Beckley]

I need to join an XP machine to a Windows 2000 (AD) domain.  I have 
edited the lmhosts file, and that will resolve the issue once Windows 
has been fully installed.  While XP is installing it tries to join our 
domain, but it won't be able to, because the lmhosts file is straight 
from the i386 directory.  I tried editing that file by extracting its 
contents then rearchiving them, but when I looked at the machine again, 
the lmhosts file was just an archive, I suppose because I don't know how 
to rearchive the way Windows wants it.  I am not really sure if my idea 
of editting the i386\lmhosts file is a good idea, but I'll post my 
results once it has installed.  If anyone knows how to edit those files, 
or has any other suggestions feel free to let me know.

Justin Beckley

Michelangelo Bottura wrote:

I suppose you tried
c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\lmhosts
You need to join to a NT4 or Windows2000 (AD) domain?

For the latter you need a particular syntax in lmhosts file (which i 
may be able to provide searching on my past records), while in AD you 
should have dns server providing full name for the domain controller 
(ie: non need to modify anything).
That said, i never tried to do an unattended installl trhu a subnet so 
i'd be interested on the outcome - let me know

Regards
Michelangelo Bottura - sysadm
Psychology Dept.
University of Bologna
ITALY
Justin Beckley wrote:

I was having problems installing a couple of boxes from a different 
subnet, because they couldn't resolve the server name.  I added the 
name and IP address of the server to the lmhosts file on the cd and 
that fixed the problem, until Windows tries to join up to the 
domain.  During the installation, a message pops up that says the 
Domain controller couldn't be reached, and I tell it to continue and 
join later.  Well once Windows finishes installing, nothing happens, 
because the server still cannot be reached, so it just sits there.  I 
tried adding the server to the Windows hosts 
(/Windows/system32/drivers/etc) file, but that didn't help either.  
Any other suggestions on how to resolve the issue?

Justin Beckley

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Re: [Unattended] Can't find domain

[Homer Simpson]

This is a relatively common issue when transversing subnets.  MS has a fix
which I've tried, and it works.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;180094

Cheers,
Curtis
AKA "Homer" ;-)

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Subject: [Unattended] Can't find domain


> I was having problems installing a couple of boxes from a different
> subnet, because they couldn't resolve the server name.  I added the name
> and IP address of the server to the lmhosts file on the cd and that
> fixed the problem, until Windows tries to join up to the domain.  During
> the installation, a message pops up that says the Domain controller
> couldn't be reached, and I tell it to continue and join later.  Well
> once Windows finishes installing, nothing happens, because the server
> still cannot be reached, so it just sits there.  I tried adding the
> server to the Windows hosts (/Windows/system32/drivers/etc) file, but
> that didn't help either.  Any other suggestions on how to resolve the
issue?
>
> Justin Beckley
>
>
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