Re: Emoji for major planets at least?

[Pierpaolo Bernardi via Unicode]

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 1:19 AM, Aleksey Tulinov via Unicode
 wrote:
> Perhaps we all shall stop being ironical to each other, calm down, sit and
> discuss how to encode 3D animated emojies (animojies) in Unicode. Adopting
> something like COLLADA would be sweet. I guess COLLADA, being XML-based
> standard, already can be encoded by Unicode, so it shouldn't be a lot of
> hustle, just some paper work, right?

What???  No MPEG-4?

COLLADA is a step in the right direction, but it doesn't encode sounds!

Re: Emoji for major planets at least?

[Aleksey Tulinov via Unicode]

Perhaps we all shall stop being ironical to each other, calm down, sit and
discuss how to encode 3D animated emojies (animojies) in Unicode. Adopting
something like COLLADA would be sweet. I guess COLLADA, being XML-based
standard, already can be encoded by Unicode, so it shouldn't be a lot of
hustle, just some paper work, right?

2018-01-19 1:25 GMT+02:00 Asmus Freytag via Unicode :

> On 1/18/2018 1:59 PM, Walter Tross via Unicode wrote:
>
> Sorry guys if I step in uninvited, but I must say that I had hoped that
> the subject of this thread was ironical.
>
>
> Of course not, how could you think that?
>
> Do you guys want to have an emoji for every entry of some encyclopaedia?
> You need JPEG, PNG, etc., not Unicode.
>
>
> Clearly, the natural progression of modern communication is away from
> bothersome alphabetic recordings of spoken sound to the expressive power of
> picture-writing.
>
> You can't possibly dream of standing in the way of this evolution!
>
> A./
>
>
> Sorry
> Walter
>
> 2018-01-18 22:10 GMT+01:00 Philippe Verdy via Unicode  >:
>
>> Well I can think of a popular pseudo-planet, the "Death Star" or "Black
>> Star" (for the "Star Wars" series), which is easily recognized by its color
>> and shape (with the deep built crater, and optionally its destroyed half
>> part) which also looks like a real planet, the Saturnian moon Mimas with
>> its very wide crater (to avoid the copyright issue)...
>>
>> 2018-01-18 20:04 GMT+01:00 Anshuman Pandey via Unicode <
>> unicode@unicode.org>:
>>
>>> Proposals for planet emoji were submitted in April 2017:
>>>
>>> https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2017/17100-planet-emoji-seq.pdf
>>>
>>> http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2017/17100r-planet-emoji-seq.pdf
>>>
>>> I’m not sure what the result was.
>>>
>>> Anshu
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 18, 2018, at 12:46 PM, Asmus Freytag (c) via Unicode <
>>> unicode@unicode.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 1/18/2018 10:01 AM, John H. Jenkins wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, you can go with Venus = white planet, Mercury = grey planet,
>>> Uranus = greenish planet, Neptune = bluish planet, Jupiter = striped
>>> planet.
>>>
>>> As you say, though, without a context, none of them convey much and
>>> Venus, at least, would just be a circle.
>>>
>>> Plus there's the question of the context in which someone would want to
>>> send little pictures of the planets. This sounds like it would be adding
>>> emoji just because.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Earth" as in "a blue ball in space" is something that reached iconic
>>> status after the famous photo taken during the early Apollo missions. I
>>> could definitely see that used in a variety of possible contexts. And the
>>> recognition value is higher than for many recent emoji.
>>>
>>> Saturn, with its rings (even though it's no longer the only one known
>>> with rings) also is iconic and highly recognizable. I lack imagination as
>>> to when someone would want to use it in communication, but I have the same
>>> issue with quite a few recent emoji, some of which are far less iconic or
>>> recognizable. I think it does lend itself to describe a "non-earth" type
>>> planet, or even the generic idea of a planet (as opposed to a star/sun).
>>>
>>> Mars and Venus have tons of connotations, which could be expressed by
>>> using an emoji (as opposed to the astrological symbol for each), but only
>>> Mars is reasonably recognizable without lots of pre-established context.
>>> That red color.
>>>
>>> In a detailed enough rendering, Jupiter, as a shaded "ball" with stripes
>>> and red dot would more recognizable than any of the remaining planets (on
>>> par or better with many recent emoji), but I see even less scope for using
>>> it metaphorically or in extended contexts.
>>>
>>> If someone were to make a proposal, I would suggest to them to limit it
>>> to these four and to provide more of a suggestion as to how these might
>>> show up in use.
>>>
>>> A./
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 18, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Asmus Freytag via Unicode <
>>> unicode@unicode.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 1/18/2018 6:55 AM, Shriramana Sharma via Unicode wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello people.
>>>
>>> We have sun, earth and moon emoji (3 for the earth and more for the
>>> moon's phases). But we don't have emoji for the rest of the planets.
>>>
>>> We have astrological symbols for all the planets and a few
>>> non-existent imaginary "planets" as well.
>>>
>>> Given this, would it be impractical to encode proper emoji characters
>>> for the rest of the planets, at least the major ones whose physical
>>> characteristics are well known and identifiable?
>>>
>>> I mean for example identifying Sedna and Quaoar
>>> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EightTNOs.png) is probably not
>>> going to be practical for all those other than astronomy buffs but the
>>> physical shapes of the major planets are known to all high school
>>> students…
>>>
>>>
>>> Earth = blue planet (with clouds)
>>>
>>> Mars = red planet
>>>
>>> Saturn = planet with rings
>>>
>>> I don't think any of the other ones are identifiable in a 

Re: Emoji for major planets at least?

[Asmus Freytag via Unicode]

  
  
On 1/18/2018 1:59 PM, Walter Tross via
  Unicode wrote:


  Sorry guys if I step in uninvited, but I must say
that I had hoped that the subject of this thread was ironical. 


Of course not, how could you think that?


  Do you guys want to have an emoji for every entry
of some encyclopaedia? You need JPEG, PNG, etc., not Unicode.


Clearly, the natural progression of modern communication is away
from bothersome alphabetic recordings of spoken sound to the
expressive power of picture-writing.

You can't possibly dream of standing in the way of this evolution!

A./



  
Sorry

Walter
  
  
2018-01-18 22:10 GMT+01:00 Philippe
  Verdy via Unicode :
  
Well I can think of a popular pseudo-planet,
  the "Death Star" or "Black Star" (for the "Star Wars"
  series), which is easily recognized by its color and shape
  (with the deep built crater, and optionally its destroyed
  half part) which also looks like a real planet, the
  Saturnian moon Mimas with its very wide crater (to avoid
  the copyright issue)...

  

  2018-01-18 20:04 GMT+01:00
Anshuman Pandey via Unicode :

  
Proposals for planet emoji were submitted
  in April 2017:


https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2017/17100-planet-emoji-seq.pdf


http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2017/17100r-planet-emoji-seq.pdf


I’m not sure what the result was.


Anshu

  



  On Jan 18, 2018, at 12:46 PM, Asmus
  Freytag (c) via Unicode 
  wrote:
  


  
On
  1/18/2018 10:01 AM, John H. Jenkins
  wrote:

 Well, you can
  go with Venus = white planet, Mercury
  = grey planet, Uranus = greenish
  planet, Neptune = bluish planet,
  Jupiter = striped planet.
  
  
  As you say, though, without a
context, none of them convey much
and Venus, at least, would just be a
circle. 
  
  
  Plus there's the question of the
context in which someone would want
to send little pictures of the
planets. This sounds like it would
be adding emoji just because.


"Earth" as in "a blue ball in space" is
something that reached iconic status
after the famous photo taken during the
early Apollo missions. I could
definitely see that used in a variety of
possible contexts. And the recognition
value is higher than for many recent
emoji.

Saturn, with its rings (even though it's
no longer the only one known with rings)
also is iconic and highly recognizable.
I lack imagination as to when someone
would want to use it in communication,
but I have the same issue with quite a
few recent emoji, some of which are far
less iconic or recognizable. I think it
does lend itself to describe a
   

Re: Emoji for major planets at least?

[Walter Tross via Unicode]

Sorry guys if I step in uninvited, but I must say that I had hoped that the
subject of this thread was ironical. Do you guys want to have an emoji for
every entry of some encyclopaedia? You need JPEG, PNG, etc., not Unicode.
Sorry
Walter

2018-01-18 22:10 GMT+01:00 Philippe Verdy via Unicode :

> Well I can think of a popular pseudo-planet, the "Death Star" or "Black
> Star" (for the "Star Wars" series), which is easily recognized by its color
> and shape (with the deep built crater, and optionally its destroyed half
> part) which also looks like a real planet, the Saturnian moon Mimas with
> its very wide crater (to avoid the copyright issue)...
>
> 2018-01-18 20:04 GMT+01:00 Anshuman Pandey via Unicode <
> unicode@unicode.org>:
>
>> Proposals for planet emoji were submitted in April 2017:
>>
>> https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2017/17100-planet-emoji-seq.pdf
>>
>> http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2017/17100r-planet-emoji-seq.pdf
>>
>> I’m not sure what the result was.
>>
>> Anshu
>>
>>
>> On Jan 18, 2018, at 12:46 PM, Asmus Freytag (c) via Unicode <
>> unicode@unicode.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 1/18/2018 10:01 AM, John H. Jenkins wrote:
>>
>> Well, you can go with Venus = white planet, Mercury = grey planet, Uranus
>> = greenish planet, Neptune = bluish planet, Jupiter = striped planet.
>>
>> As you say, though, without a context, none of them convey much and
>> Venus, at least, would just be a circle.
>>
>> Plus there's the question of the context in which someone would want to
>> send little pictures of the planets. This sounds like it would be adding
>> emoji just because.
>>
>>
>> "Earth" as in "a blue ball in space" is something that reached iconic
>> status after the famous photo taken during the early Apollo missions. I
>> could definitely see that used in a variety of possible contexts. And the
>> recognition value is higher than for many recent emoji.
>>
>> Saturn, with its rings (even though it's no longer the only one known
>> with rings) also is iconic and highly recognizable. I lack imagination as
>> to when someone would want to use it in communication, but I have the same
>> issue with quite a few recent emoji, some of which are far less iconic or
>> recognizable. I think it does lend itself to describe a "non-earth" type
>> planet, or even the generic idea of a planet (as opposed to a star/sun).
>>
>> Mars and Venus have tons of connotations, which could be expressed by
>> using an emoji (as opposed to the astrological symbol for each), but only
>> Mars is reasonably recognizable without lots of pre-established context.
>> That red color.
>>
>> In a detailed enough rendering, Jupiter, as a shaded "ball" with stripes
>> and red dot would more recognizable than any of the remaining planets (on
>> par or better with many recent emoji), but I see even less scope for using
>> it metaphorically or in extended contexts.
>>
>> If someone were to make a proposal, I would suggest to them to limit it
>> to these four and to provide more of a suggestion as to how these might
>> show up in use.
>>
>> A./
>>
>>
>> On Jan 18, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Asmus Freytag via Unicode <
>> unicode@unicode.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 1/18/2018 6:55 AM, Shriramana Sharma via Unicode wrote:
>>
>> Hello people.
>>
>> We have sun, earth and moon emoji (3 for the earth and more for the
>> moon's phases). But we don't have emoji for the rest of the planets.
>>
>> We have astrological symbols for all the planets and a few
>> non-existent imaginary "planets" as well.
>>
>> Given this, would it be impractical to encode proper emoji characters
>> for the rest of the planets, at least the major ones whose physical
>> characteristics are well known and identifiable?
>>
>> I mean for example identifying Sedna and Quaoar
>> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EightTNOs.png) is probably not
>> going to be practical for all those other than astronomy buffs but the
>> physical shapes of the major planets are known to all high school
>> students…
>>
>>
>> Earth = blue planet (with clouds)
>>
>> Mars = red planet
>>
>> Saturn = planet with rings
>>
>> I don't think any of the other ones are identifiable in a context-free
>> setting, unless you draw a "big planet with red dot" for Jupiter.
>>
>> Earth would have to be depicted in a way that doesn't focus on
>> "hemispheres", or you miss the idea of it as "planet".
>>
>>
>> A./
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Emoji for major planets at least?

[Philippe Verdy via Unicode]

Well I can think of a popular pseudo-planet, the "Death Star" or "Black
Star" (for the "Star Wars" series), which is easily recognized by its color
and shape (with the deep built crater, and optionally its destroyed half
part) which also looks like a real planet, the Saturnian moon Mimas with
its very wide crater (to avoid the copyright issue)...

2018-01-18 20:04 GMT+01:00 Anshuman Pandey via Unicode 
:

> Proposals for planet emoji were submitted in April 2017:
>
> https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2017/17100-planet-emoji-seq.pdf
>
> http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2017/17100r-planet-emoji-seq.pdf
>
> I’m not sure what the result was.
>
> Anshu
>
>
> On Jan 18, 2018, at 12:46 PM, Asmus Freytag (c) via Unicode <
> unicode@unicode.org> wrote:
>
> On 1/18/2018 10:01 AM, John H. Jenkins wrote:
>
> Well, you can go with Venus = white planet, Mercury = grey planet, Uranus
> = greenish planet, Neptune = bluish planet, Jupiter = striped planet.
>
> As you say, though, without a context, none of them convey much and Venus,
> at least, would just be a circle.
>
> Plus there's the question of the context in which someone would want to
> send little pictures of the planets. This sounds like it would be adding
> emoji just because.
>
>
> "Earth" as in "a blue ball in space" is something that reached iconic
> status after the famous photo taken during the early Apollo missions. I
> could definitely see that used in a variety of possible contexts. And the
> recognition value is higher than for many recent emoji.
>
> Saturn, with its rings (even though it's no longer the only one known with
> rings) also is iconic and highly recognizable. I lack imagination as to
> when someone would want to use it in communication, but I have the same
> issue with quite a few recent emoji, some of which are far less iconic or
> recognizable. I think it does lend itself to describe a "non-earth" type
> planet, or even the generic idea of a planet (as opposed to a star/sun).
>
> Mars and Venus have tons of connotations, which could be expressed by
> using an emoji (as opposed to the astrological symbol for each), but only
> Mars is reasonably recognizable without lots of pre-established context.
> That red color.
>
> In a detailed enough rendering, Jupiter, as a shaded "ball" with stripes
> and red dot would more recognizable than any of the remaining planets (on
> par or better with many recent emoji), but I see even less scope for using
> it metaphorically or in extended contexts.
>
> If someone were to make a proposal, I would suggest to them to limit it to
> these four and to provide more of a suggestion as to how these might show
> up in use.
>
> A./
>
>
> On Jan 18, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Asmus Freytag via Unicode <
> unicode@unicode.org> wrote:
>
> On 1/18/2018 6:55 AM, Shriramana Sharma via Unicode wrote:
>
> Hello people.
>
> We have sun, earth and moon emoji (3 for the earth and more for the
> moon's phases). But we don't have emoji for the rest of the planets.
>
> We have astrological symbols for all the planets and a few
> non-existent imaginary "planets" as well.
>
> Given this, would it be impractical to encode proper emoji characters
> for the rest of the planets, at least the major ones whose physical
> characteristics are well known and identifiable?
>
> I mean for example identifying Sedna and Quaoar
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EightTNOs.png) is probably not
> going to be practical for all those other than astronomy buffs but the
> physical shapes of the major planets are known to all high school
> students…
>
>
> Earth = blue planet (with clouds)
>
> Mars = red planet
>
> Saturn = planet with rings
>
> I don't think any of the other ones are identifiable in a context-free
> setting, unless you draw a "big planet with red dot" for Jupiter.
>
> Earth would have to be depicted in a way that doesn't focus on
> "hemispheres", or you miss the idea of it as "planet".
>
>
> A./
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Emoji for major planets at least?

[Anshuman Pandey via Unicode]

Proposals for planet emoji were submitted in April 2017:

https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2017/17100-planet-emoji-seq.pdf

http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2017/17100r-planet-emoji-seq.pdf

I’m not sure what the result was.

Anshu


> On Jan 18, 2018, at 12:46 PM, Asmus Freytag (c) via Unicode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 1/18/2018 10:01 AM, John H. Jenkins wrote:
>> Well, you can go with Venus = white planet, Mercury = grey planet, Uranus = 
>> greenish planet, Neptune = bluish planet, Jupiter = striped planet.
>> 
>> As you say, though, without a context, none of them convey much and Venus, 
>> at least, would just be a circle. 
>> 
>> Plus there's the question of the context in which someone would want to send 
>> little pictures of the planets. This sounds like it would be adding emoji 
>> just because.
> 
> "Earth" as in "a blue ball in space" is something that reached iconic status 
> after the famous photo taken during the early Apollo missions. I could 
> definitely see that used in a variety of possible contexts. And the 
> recognition value is higher than for many recent emoji.
> 
> Saturn, with its rings (even though it's no longer the only one known with 
> rings) also is iconic and highly recognizable. I lack imagination as to when 
> someone would want to use it in communication, but I have the same issue with 
> quite a few recent emoji, some of which are far less iconic or recognizable. 
> I think it does lend itself to describe a "non-earth" type planet, or even 
> the generic idea of a planet (as opposed to a star/sun).
> 
> Mars and Venus have tons of connotations, which could be expressed by using 
> an emoji (as opposed to the astrological symbol for each), but only Mars is 
> reasonably recognizable without lots of pre-established context. That red 
> color.
> 
> In a detailed enough rendering, Jupiter, as a shaded "ball" with stripes and 
> red dot would more recognizable than any of the remaining planets (on par or 
> better with many recent emoji), but I see even less scope for using it 
> metaphorically or in extended contexts.
> 
> If someone were to make a proposal, I would suggest to them to limit it to 
> these four and to provide more of a suggestion as to how these might show up 
> in use.
> 
> A./
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Asmus Freytag via Unicode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 On 1/18/2018 6:55 AM, Shriramana Sharma via Unicode wrote:
 Hello people.
 
 We have sun, earth and moon emoji (3 for the earth and more for the
 moon's phases). But we don't have emoji for the rest of the planets.
 
 We have astrological symbols for all the planets and a few
 non-existent imaginary "planets" as well.
 
 Given this, would it be impractical to encode proper emoji characters
 for the rest of the planets, at least the major ones whose physical
 characteristics are well known and identifiable?
 
 I mean for example identifying Sedna and Quaoar
 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EightTNOs.png) is probably not
 going to be practical for all those other than astronomy buffs but the
 physical shapes of the major planets are known to all high school
 students…
 
>>> Earth = blue planet (with clouds)
>>> 
>>> Mars = red planet
>>> 
>>> Saturn = planet with rings
>>> 
>>> I don't think any of the other ones are identifiable in a context-free 
>>> setting, unless you draw a "big planet with red dot" for Jupiter.
>>> 
>>> Earth would have to be depicted in a way that doesn't focus on 
>>> "hemispheres", or you miss the idea of it as "planet".
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A./
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

Re: 0027, 02BC, 2019, or a new character?

[Asmus Freytag via Unicode]

  
  
Top level IDN domain names can not
  contain 02BC, nor 0027 or 2019. 
  
  (RFC 6912 gives the rationale and RZ-LGR the implementation, see MSR-3)
  
  A./
  
  On 1/18/2018 3:00 AM, Andre Schappo via Unicode wrote:


  
  
  

  On 18 Jan 2018, at 08:21, Andre Schappo via
Unicode  wrote:
  
  

  
  

  On 16 Jan 2018, at 08:00, Richard
Wordingham via Unicode 
wrote:
  
  
On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 20:16:21 -0800
  James Kass via Unicode 
  wrote:
  
  It will probably
be the ASCII apostrophe.  The stated intent
favors
the apostrophe over diacritics or special
characters to ensure that
the language can be input to computers with
standard keyboards.
  
  
  Typing U+0027 into a word processor takes
  planning.  Of the three, it
  should obviously be the modifier letter U+02BC,
  but I think what gets
  stored will be U+0027 or the single quotation mark
  U+2019.
  
  However, we shouldn't overlook the diacritic mark
  U+0315 COMBINING COMMA
  ABOVE RIGHT.
  
  Richard.

  

  
  
  

  

  

  

  

  I have just tested twitter hashtags
  and as one would expect, U+02BC does
  not break hashtags. See twitter.com/andreschappo/status/953903964722024448

  

  

  

  

  

  

  


  
  ...and, just in case twitter.com/andreschappo/status/953944089896083456

  
  
  André Schappo
  
  



  

Re: Emoji for major planets at least?

[Asmus Freytag (c) via Unicode]

On 1/18/2018 10:01 AM, John H. Jenkins wrote:
Well, you can go with Venus = white planet, Mercury = grey planet, 
Uranus = greenish planet, Neptune = bluish planet, Jupiter = striped 
planet.


As you say, though, without a context, none of them convey much and 
Venus, at least, would just be a circle.


Plus there's the question of the context in which someone would want 
to send little pictures of the planets. This sounds like it would be 
adding emoji just because.


"Earth" as in "a blue ball in space" is something that reached iconic 
status after the famous photo taken during the early Apollo missions. I 
could definitely see that used in a variety of possible contexts. And 
the recognition value is higher than for many recent emoji.


Saturn, with its rings (even though it's no longer the only one known 
with rings) also is iconic and highly recognizable. I lack imagination 
as to when someone would want to use it in communication, but I have the 
same issue with quite a few recent emoji, some of which are far less 
iconic or recognizable. I think it does lend itself to describe a 
"non-earth" type planet, or even the generic idea of a planet (as 
opposed to a star/sun).


Mars and Venus have tons of connotations, which could be expressed by 
using an emoji (as opposed to the astrological symbol for each), but 
only Mars is reasonably recognizable without lots of pre-established 
context. That red color.


In a detailed enough rendering, Jupiter, as a shaded "ball" with stripes 
and red dot would more recognizable than any of the remaining planets 
(on par or better with many recent emoji), but I see even less scope for 
using it metaphorically or in extended contexts.


If someone were to make a proposal, I would suggest to them to limit it 
to these four and to provide more of a suggestion as to how these might 
show up in use.


A./


On Jan 18, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Asmus Freytag via Unicode 
mailto:unicode@unicode.org>> wrote:


On 1/18/2018 6:55 AM, Shriramana Sharma via Unicode wrote:

Hello people.

We have sun, earth and moon emoji (3 for the earth and more for the
moon's phases). But we don't have emoji for the rest of the planets.

We have astrological symbols for all the planets and a few
non-existent imaginary "planets" as well.

Given this, would it be impractical to encode proper emoji characters
for the rest of the planets, at least the major ones whose physical
characteristics are well known and identifiable?

I mean for example identifying Sedna and Quaoar
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EightTNOs.png) is probably not
going to be practical for all those other than astronomy buffs but the
physical shapes of the major planets are known to all high school
students…


Earth = blue planet (with clouds)

Mars = red planet

Saturn = planet with rings

I don't think any of the other ones are identifiable in a 
context-free setting, unless you draw a "big planet with red dot" for 
Jupiter.


Earth would have to be depicted in a way that doesn't focus on 
"hemispheres", or you miss the idea of it as "planet".



A./

Re: Emoji for major planets at least?

[John H. Jenkins via Unicode]

Well, you can go with Venus = white planet, Mercury = grey planet, Uranus = 
greenish planet, Neptune = bluish planet, Jupiter = striped planet.

As you say, though, without a context, none of them convey much and Venus, at 
least, would just be a circle. 

Plus there's the question of the context in which someone would want to send 
little pictures of the planets. This sounds like it would be adding emoji just 
because.

> On Jan 18, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Asmus Freytag via Unicode  
> wrote:
> 
> On 1/18/2018 6:55 AM, Shriramana Sharma via Unicode wrote:
>> Hello people.
>> 
>> We have sun, earth and moon emoji (3 for the earth and more for the
>> moon's phases). But we don't have emoji for the rest of the planets.
>> 
>> We have astrological symbols for all the planets and a few
>> non-existent imaginary "planets" as well.
>> 
>> Given this, would it be impractical to encode proper emoji characters
>> for the rest of the planets, at least the major ones whose physical
>> characteristics are well known and identifiable?
>> 
>> I mean for example identifying Sedna and Quaoar
>> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EightTNOs.png 
>> ) is probably not
>> going to be practical for all those other than astronomy buffs but the
>> physical shapes of the major planets are known to all high school
>> students…
>> 
> Earth = blue planet (with clouds)
> 
> Mars = red planet
> 
> Saturn = planet with rings
> 
> I don't think any of the other ones are identifiable in a context-free 
> setting, unless you draw a "big planet with red dot" for Jupiter.
> 
> Earth would have to be depicted in a way that doesn't focus on "hemispheres", 
> or you miss the idea of it as "planet".
> 
> 
> 
> A./
> 
> 
> 

Re: Emoji for major planets at least?

[Asmus Freytag via Unicode]

  
  
On 1/18/2018 6:55 AM, Shriramana Sharma
  via Unicode wrote:


  Hello people.

We have sun, earth and moon emoji (3 for the earth and more for the
moon's phases). But we don't have emoji for the rest of the planets.

We have astrological symbols for all the planets and a few
non-existent imaginary "planets" as well.

Given this, would it be impractical to encode proper emoji characters
for the rest of the planets, at least the major ones whose physical
characteristics are well known and identifiable?

I mean for example identifying Sedna and Quaoar
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EightTNOs.png) is probably not
going to be practical for all those other than astronomy buffs but the
physical shapes of the major planets are known to all high school
students…



Earth = blue planet (with clouds)
  
Mars = red planet
Saturn = planet with rings
I don't think any of the other ones are
identifiable in a context-free setting, unless you draw a "big
planet with red dot" for Jupiter.
Earth would have to be depicted in a way
that doesn't focus on "hemispheres", or you miss the idea of it
as "planet".

  
A./
  

  
  

Re: 0027, 02BC, 2019, or a new character?

[Andre Schappo via Unicode]

On 18 Jan 2018, at 08:21, Andre Schappo via Unicode 
mailto:unicode@unicode.org>> wrote:



On 16 Jan 2018, at 08:00, Richard Wordingham via Unicode 
mailto:unicode@unicode.org>> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 20:16:21 -0800
James Kass via Unicode mailto:unicode@unicode.org>> wrote:

It will probably be the ASCII apostrophe.  The stated intent favors
the apostrophe over diacritics or special characters to ensure that
the language can be input to computers with standard keyboards.

Typing U+0027 into a word processor takes planning.  Of the three, it
should obviously be the modifier letter U+02BC, but I think what gets
stored will be U+0027 or the single quotation mark U+2019.

However, we shouldn't overlook the diacritic mark U+0315 COMBINING COMMA
ABOVE RIGHT.

Richard.

I have just tested twitter hashtags and as one would expect, U+02BC does not 
break hashtags. See 
twitter.com/andreschappo/status/953903964722024448


I have done a bit more investigation and as a result have written a short blog 
article ➜ 
schappo.blogspot.co.uk/2018/01/computer-science-internationalization_18.html


André Schappo

Emoji for major planets at least?

[Shriramana Sharma via Unicode]

Hello people.

We have sun, earth and moon emoji (3 for the earth and more for the
moon's phases). But we don't have emoji for the rest of the planets.

We have astrological symbols for all the planets and a few
non-existent imaginary "planets" as well.

Given this, would it be impractical to encode proper emoji characters
for the rest of the planets, at least the major ones whose physical
characteristics are well known and identifiable?

I mean for example identifying Sedna and Quaoar
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EightTNOs.png) is probably not
going to be practical for all those other than astronomy buffs but the
physical shapes of the major planets are known to all high school
students…

-- 
Shriramana Sharma ஶ்ரீரமணஶர்மா श्रीरमणशर्मा 𑀰𑁆𑀭𑀻𑀭𑀫𑀡𑀰𑀭𑁆𑀫𑀸

Re: 0027, 02BC, 2019, or a new character?

[Andre Schappo via Unicode]

On 18 Jan 2018, at 08:21, Andre Schappo via Unicode 
mailto:unicode@unicode.org>> wrote:



On 16 Jan 2018, at 08:00, Richard Wordingham via Unicode 
mailto:unicode@unicode.org>> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 20:16:21 -0800
James Kass via Unicode mailto:unicode@unicode.org>> wrote:

It will probably be the ASCII apostrophe.  The stated intent favors
the apostrophe over diacritics or special characters to ensure that
the language can be input to computers with standard keyboards.

Typing U+0027 into a word processor takes planning.  Of the three, it
should obviously be the modifier letter U+02BC, but I think what gets
stored will be U+0027 or the single quotation mark U+2019.

However, we shouldn't overlook the diacritic mark U+0315 COMBINING COMMA
ABOVE RIGHT.

Richard.

I have just tested twitter hashtags and as one would expect, U+02BC does not 
break hashtags. See 
twitter.com/andreschappo/status/953903964722024448


...and, just in case 
twitter.com/andreschappo/status/953944089896083456


André Schappo

Re: 0027, 02BC, 2019, or a new character?

[Andre Schappo via Unicode]

On 16 Jan 2018, at 08:00, Richard Wordingham via Unicode 
mailto:unicode@unicode.org>> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 20:16:21 -0800
James Kass via Unicode mailto:unicode@unicode.org>> wrote:

It will probably be the ASCII apostrophe.  The stated intent favors
the apostrophe over diacritics or special characters to ensure that
the language can be input to computers with standard keyboards.

Typing U+0027 into a word processor takes planning.  Of the three, it
should obviously be the modifier letter U+02BC, but I think what gets
stored will be U+0027 or the single quotation mark U+2019.

However, we shouldn't overlook the diacritic mark U+0315 COMBINING COMMA
ABOVE RIGHT.

Richard.

I have just tested twitter hashtags and as one would expect, U+02BC does not 
break hashtags. See 
twitter.com/andreschappo/status/953903964722024448

André Schappo