Re: Most complete (free) Chinese font?
Am 01.08.2010 um 13:03 schrieb Leonardo Boiko: And it’s the only font I know with U+2E19 PALM BRANCH ⸙ It is not. Andron has it. Regards, A. St.
Re: Most complete (free) Chinese font?
On 2 Aug 2010, at 08:52, Andreas Stötzner wrote: Am 01.08.2010 um 13:03 schrieb Leonardo Boiko: And it’s the only font I know with U+2E19 PALM BRANCH ⸙ It is not. Andron has it. As does Everson Mono. Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/
Re: Most complete (free) Chinese font?
Emphasis on “the only font _I know_”. I didn’t know Andron nor Everson Mono. Besides, while quality, both seem to be non-free, which is something I’m not interested in as a Debian user (nothing against it, it just isn’t my thing). On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 05:48, Michael Everson ever...@evertype.com wrote: On 2 Aug 2010, at 08:52, Andreas Stötzner wrote: Am 01.08.2010 um 13:03 schrieb Leonardo Boiko: And it’s the only font I know with U+2E19 PALM BRANCH ⸙ It is not. Andron has it. As does Everson Mono. Michael Everson * thttp://www.evertype.com/ -- Leonardo Boiko http://namakajiri.net
Re: Most complete (free) Chinese font?
On 2 Aug 2010, at 11:57, Leonardo Boiko wrote: Emphasis on “the only font _I know_”. I didn’t know Andron nor Everson Mono. Besides, while quality, both seem to be non-free, which is something I’m not interested in as a Debian user (nothing against it, it just isn’t my thing). Huh. Well, Leonardo, when I am independently wealthy, I'll be happy to give everything I do away for free. In the meantime, I find the the extremely occasional shareware fee I get to be a welcome affirmation that Everson Mono is appreciated. There is nothing shameful, or a shame, about non-free fonts. Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/
Re: Most complete (free) Chinese font?
When did I say there was something shameful about non-freeness? I only said, and I quote, that it’s not my thing. Since I run a free operating sytem, it can automatically download and manage free content, so it’s more convenient for _me_ to keep using free content. I manage about a thousand computers in a public university in Brazil, with little funding and plenty of bureaucracy. Dealing with custom licensing terms and ad-hoc downloading and manual installation is simply too inconvenient. It’s much simpler, for me, to stick to an automated system that guarantees freedom. As an author, you’re entitled to license your work to your heart’s content. Don’t take this as an accusation. As a sysadmin, I’m also entitled to not care about non-free stuff. I don’t think it’s shameful, I simply don’t use it. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 08:11, Michael Everson ever...@evertype.com wrote: On 2 Aug 2010, at 11:57, Leonardo Boiko wrote: Emphasis on “the only font _I know_”. I didn’t know Andron nor Everson Mono. Besides, while quality, both seem to be non-free, which is something I’m not interested in as a Debian user (nothing against it, it just isn’t my thing). Huh. Well, Leonardo, when I am independently wealthy, I'll be happy to give everything I do away for free. In the meantime, I find the the extremely occasional shareware fee I get to be a welcome affirmation that Everson Mono is appreciated. There is nothing shameful, or a shame, about non-free fonts. Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/ -- Leonardo Boiko http://namakajiri.net
Free font with medievalist characters (was Re: Most complete (free) Chinese font?)
Le dimanche 01 août 2010 à 08:03 -0300, Leonardo Boiko a écrit : Oh, it _is_ totally blocky, and will look terrible if scaled to anything other than its natural 16-pixel size. My point is, this is how it’s supposed to be, cause it’s a bitmapped, monospace terminal font. Like Terminus or xorg’s “fixed”; you use it for computer code, not books. And it’s the only font I know with U+2E19 PALM BRANCH ⸙ ;) Junicode (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junicode ) contains it, and its free (GPL licensed). This character comes from MUFI, so it's not surprising that Junicode has it. Andron (mensioned before) and Palenomas MUFI also should have it, and thei're free of charge (but not free for Debian). They should not pose administrative problems for you... Frédéric
Re: Most complete (free) Chinese font?
On 2 Aug 2010, at 13:10, Leonardo Boiko wrote: When did I say there was something shameful about non-freeness? I only said, and I quote, that it’s not my thing. I find the term non-free to smack of élitism and a view that commerce is undesirable. And I'm not even very good at being a merchant. It’s much simpler, for me, to stick to an automated system that guarantees freedom. Indeed? Let us weep for those benighted folks who shackled themselves to the world of pecuniary transaction by choosing to render a shareware fee for Everson Mono Heh. Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/
RE: Most complete (free) Chinese font?
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Re: Most complete (free) Chinese font?
Hello Michael, I hope you still remember that I am one of the (apparently very few) people who paid for Everson Mono. That was more than ten years ago. On 2010/08/03 1:02, Michael Everson wrote: On 2 Aug 2010, at 13:10, Leonardo Boiko wrote: When did I say there was something shameful about non-freeness? I only said, and I quote, that it’s not my thing. I find the term non-free to smack of élitism and a view that commerce is undesirable. And I'm not even very good at being a merchant. Instead of criticising a term, would you mind proposing a different term? It’s much simpler, for me, to stick to an automated system that guarantees freedom. Indeed? Let us weep for those benighted folks who shackled themselves to the world of pecuniary transaction by choosing to render a shareware fee for Everson Mono Nobody has to weep for me. I actually haven't used Everson Mono much, I'm not even sure whether I ever used it, but at the time I found the idea that somebody was working on a font that covered Unicode really worthy of support. Regards,Martin. -- #-# Martin J. Dürst, Professor, Aoyama Gakuin University #-# http://www.sw.it.aoyama.ac.jp mailto:due...@it.aoyama.ac.jp
Re: Most complete (free) Chinese font?
Oh, it _is_ totally blocky, and will look terrible if scaled to anything other than its natural 16-pixel size. My point is, this is how it’s supposed to be, cause it’s a bitmapped, monospace terminal font. Like Terminus or xorg’s “fixed”; you use it for computer code, not books. And it’s the only font I know with U+2E19 PALM BRANCH ⸙ ;) I hope the other fonts mentioned were useful. From a quick search in my debian system I found, other than WQY, only the Arphic family of fonts, with AR PL Ukai (kǎitǐ) and AR PL UMing (míngtǐ) being their Unicode representatives. I’m kind of surprised at how few free Chinese fonts there seems to be; probably you’ll have to scavenge the native web for more, as I had to do for Japanese. On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 04:05, jander...@talentex.co.uk jander...@talentex.co.uk wrote: I didn't mean it unkindly, though :-) It's just that it looks rather blocky. Also I think the developers themselves declare it to be ugly, but complete, if I remember correctly. /jan Leonardo Boiko wrote: Unifont is not ugly for its intended purpose: a bitmapped, fixed-width 16-pixel font. It’s great for terminals or Emacs IMHO, as long as your monitor resolution isn’t too high… I don’t know Chinese so I can’t vouch for coverage, but Wen Quan Yi seems to be the most popular open-source Chinese font (the hànzì in Unifont are actually based on it, IIRC). The website is http://wenq.org/enindex.cgi , but it’s pre-packaged for all major distros. -- Leonardo Boiko http://namakajiri.net
Most complete (free) Chinese font?
Does anybody know what the most complete, Chinese font is called? This is for Linux, but I think I can use just about any format. I know about the one called Unifont, which is possibly as ugly as one can make it :-) so I was hoping to find something a little bit nicer. The problem I have is that there are so many holes in most of the fonts, and it seems to be quite hard to judge which font is more complete. Are there any tools around that could show this - perhaps something that could tell how many glyphs are defined in a given interval?
Re: Most complete (free) Chinese font?
The Han Nom fonts cover everything through Extension B and look OK. They're TrueType. On Jul 30, 2010, at 1:41 PM, jander...@talentex.co.uk wrote: Does anybody know what the most complete, Chinese font is called? This is for Linux, but I think I can use just about any format. I know about the one called Unifont, which is possibly as ugly as one can make it :-) so I was hoping to find something a little bit nicer. The problem I have is that there are so many holes in most of the fonts, and it seems to be quite hard to judge which font is more complete. Are there any tools around that could show this - perhaps something that could tell how many glyphs are defined in a given interval? = 井作恆 John H. Jenkins jenk...@apple.com
