Re: Shamrock (was Re: MISTER YUCK)
Mr Whistler parried: Mr. Everson said: Actually, in my Gaelic fonts on the Mac OS I substituted the shamrock for that position. At some stage I will be requesting a shamrock And will ye be askin' for the top to be green, and the bottom to be orange, now? http://www.gardencentre.ie/shamrock.htm Well, no. The colours should go from left to right. :-) P.S. perhaps a glyph variant of LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O, as in: *Oh* the Shamrock, The green, immortal Shamrock! Chosen leaf Of Bard and Chief, Old Erin's native Shamrock! May the gods forgive you. No, Ken, I would encode the symbol which on xix of Íslensk ordabók 1992 means grasafrædi 'botany'. -- Michael Everson *** Everson Typography *** http://www.evertype.com
Re: MISTER YUCK
On Monday, January 28, 2002, at 01:52 PM, Stefan Persson wrote: --- Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: At 18:43 +0100 2002-01-28, Stefan Persson wrote: No, but Apple's Unicode mapping tables indicate the Private Use code point they use for it. OK. Shouldn't it be added (for compatibility reasons)? Or maybe it can't (due to copyright reasons)? Has anyone written any proposal(s) for this character? Apple's corporate logo is a legally protected symbol. Apple strongly opposes its formal encoding in Unicode (and really doesn't want people other than Apple using it in text, despite the fact that it's in all our fonts). Anyone who *does* use it in text is free to use U+F8FF, as we do, to map it to Unicode. == John H. Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.mac.com/jenkins/
RE: MISTER YUCK
Actually, Rick, Mr Yuk was invented by the Poison Control Center of the Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, in 1971. It is the visual inverse of the Smiley Face, and was intented to warn pre-reading children that the container's contents something bad for them. See: http://www.chp.edu/mryuk/05a_mryuk.php BTW, the famous yellow smiley face was invented about 1951 or 1952 by my next door neighbor, Kurt Plowitz, a UN artist, and was originally used in a UNICEF fund raising campaign, called A Smile for UNICEF. I still have a children's jigsaw puzzle from the original campaign. Being the UN, of course, they didn't bother to copyright it. It resurfaced in the mid-60's in the US when an Indiana radio station started an add campaign based on it, and has been ubitquitous ever since. Clive -Original Message- From: Rick McGowan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MISTER YUCK Mr YuK is a logo put out by the National Capital Poison Center. It comes on stickers like this: http://www.poison.org/mrYuk.htm Rick
Re: MISTER YUCK
At 18:43 +0100 2002-01-28, Stefan Persson wrote: Concerning logos: Apple's MacRoman encoding contains the logo for Apple assigned to a code point. Is there any official Unicode code point assigned for this logo? A logo is always a logo, but here it is also a compatibility issue... No, but Apple's Unicode mapping tables indicate the Private Use code point they use for it. -- Michael Everson *** Everson Typography *** http://www.evertype.com
Re: MISTER YUCK
--- Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: And the skull and crossbones does? If it's a logo, it represents some organization, right? But doesn't MISTER YUCK *mean* something, i.e., isn't it a symbol? Don't eat, this tastes bad, this is poisonous, etc. Concerning logos: Apple's MacRoman encoding contains the logo for Apple assigned to a code point. Is there any official Unicode code point assigned for this logo? A logo is always a logo, but here it is also a compatibility issue... Stefan _ Hitta snörapporter... från 500 olika skidorter i Europa på http://se.snow.yahoo.com
Re: MISTER YUCK
At 19:52 +0100 2002-01-28, Stefan Persson wrote: --- Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: At 18:43 +0100 2002-01-28, Stefan Persson wrote: No, but Apple's Unicode mapping tables indicate the Private Use code point they use for it. OK. Shouldn't it be added (for compatibility reasons)? Or maybe it can't (due to copyright reasons)? Has anyone written any proposal(s) for this character? Apple has not requested it, because corporate symbols are inappropriate for encoding and they know it. Actually, in my Gaelic fonts on the Mac OS I substituted the shamrock for that position. At some stage I will be requesting a shamrock, as this is used in a number of dictionaries as a symbol denoting horticulture. -- Michael Everson *** Everson Typography *** http://www.evertype.com
Shamrock (was Re: MISTER YUCK)
Mr. Everson said: Actually, in my Gaelic fonts on the Mac OS I substituted the shamrock for that position. At some stage I will be requesting a shamrock, as this is used in a number of dictionaries as a symbol denoting horticulture. And will ye be askin' for the top to be green, and the bottom to be orange, now? http://www.gardencentre.ie/shamrock.htm --Ken P.S. perhaps a glyph variant of LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O, as in: *Oh* the Shamrock, The green, immortal Shamrock! Chosen leaf Of Bard and Chief, Old Erin's native Shamrock!
Re: MISTER YUCK
Mr YuK is a logo put out by the National Capital Poison Center. It comes on stickers like this: http://www.poison.org/mrYuk.htm Rick
Re: MISTER YUCK
--- Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: At 18:43 +0100 2002-01-28, Stefan Persson wrote: No, but Apple's Unicode mapping tables indicate the Private Use code point they use for it. OK. Shouldn't it be added (for compatibility reasons)? Or maybe it can't (due to copyright reasons)? Has anyone written any proposal(s) for this character? Stefan _ Hitta snörapporter... från 500 olika skidorter i Europa på http://se.snow.yahoo.com
OT: Re: MISTER YUCK
At 10:55 1/28/2002, Rick McGowan wrote: Mr YuK is a logo put out by the National Capital Poison Center. Maybe I was just a perverse kid, but if I'd seen this logo on a bottle I would have taken it as a challenge: like being offered kimchee with a warning that I wouldn't like it. John Hudson Tiro Typeworks www.tiro.com Vancouver, BC [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... es ist ein unwiederbringliches Bild der Vergangenheit, das mit jeder Gegenwart zu verschwinden droht, die sich nicht in ihm gemeint erkannte. ... every image of the past that is not recognized by the present as one of its own concerns threatens to disappear irretrievably. Walter Benjamin
