Re: The role of country codes/Not snazzy

2003-05-30 Thread Curtis Clark
Marion Gunn crossposted:
Scríobh John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Jon Hanna scripsit:
...
It's funny, just earlier today, I castigated a member of a list I manage 
for posting a contribution to another list without the author's 
permission, an act which some of us regard as seriously 
*un*professional. I guess netiquette is another one of those cultural 
things.

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Re: The role of country codes/Not snazzy

2003-05-30 Thread John Cowan
Marion Gunn scripsit:

> These silly threads seem to indicate too many people on these two lists are
> underemployed or interested in developing smokescreens for other activities.

Insolence *and* paranoia.  I see.

> When a reference to using embryonic ISO 639-3 to 'legitimize' SIL's flawed
> Ethnologue is let pass with no comment, 

Of course it's flawed.  The whole idea of an unflawed list of languages
is a pipe-dream, because "language" is not a well-defined concept.

> John Cowan's pet 4-letter word (on ietf-l),

Distinguo.  I mentioned the word (as opposed to using it), I ellipsized
the vowel (which was part of the point), and I clearly marked my remark
as humor.

> one has to ask why more serious professionals do
> not sign off those lists.

Feel free to do so at any time; I doubt you will be missed, and I have
publicly promised not to pursue you beyond them.

> en-IE is most commonly used to indicate a locale with a different
> currency, etc., to either en-US or en-UK/GB.

So it is, but the topic on ietf-languages is languages and their varieites
and tags therefor, not labels for locales (IMHO a much more flawed concept).

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RE: The role of country codes/Not snazzy

2003-05-30 Thread Marco Cimarosti
Brian Doyle wrote:
> on 5/29/03 9:15 AM, Marion Gunn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > When a reference to using embryonic ISO 639-3 to 
> > 'legitimize' SIL's flawed
> > Ethnologue is let pass with no comment
> 
> Why is Ethnologue flawed?

And how is this more on-topic on a mailing list called "Unicode List" than
discussing a banner offered by the _Unicode_ Consortium to flag web pages
encoded in _Unicode_?

_ Marco



RE: The role of country codes/Not snazzy

2003-05-30 Thread Marion Gunn
These silly threads seem to indicate too many people on these two lists are
underemployed or interested in developing smokescreens for other activities.

When a reference to using embryonic ISO 639-3 to 'legitimize' SIL's flawed
Ethnologue is let pass with no comment, but followed only by a feeding
frenzy over a logo (on [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and more of Jon Hanna's
mishearings of some English spoken in Ireland, plus John Cowan's pet
4-letter word (on ietf-l), one has to ask why more serious professionals do
not sign off those lists.

No disrespect to Sarasvati, who likes real debates on his unicode lists, or
to the person(s) who convene the ietf list(s), but (in the hope of reaching
people on those lists still interested in cultural diversity), may I say
that en-IE is most commonly used to indicate a locale with a different
currency, etc., to either en-US or en-UK/GB.
mg

Scríobh John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Jon Hanna scripsit:
>...
>> I still maintain that however, especially those examples of each
>> of those dialects that are furthest from "received" en), I can't think of a
>> single spelling difference between en-IE and en-GB,
>
>The vowel in "f*ck".  :-)
>...
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