Re: [UC] local history (an idea from ancient Greece)
In a message dated 12/7/2004 12:02:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and the power to define history, as needed, is what I'm wondering about. how it's assumed and sustained. and why. DHS now considers laser beams a potential toolwhich terrorists can use to lash out against the designs of our society. Could one of the localcorporate co-optedtree huggers,direct you to the nearest Hemlock tree? A healthy prosperous New Year calls for a lessening of postsby those who wish to disturb the orderliness of the community.Your promise of compliance could never be taken seriously. Doesn't Buscemi die occasionally? Looking forward to a wonderful New Year, for most of us! Craig
Re: [UC] local history (an idea from ancient Greece)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking forward to a wonderful New Year, for most of us! AND A HAPPY HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU, TOO!! http://tinyurl.com/4sqz5 . laserbeam® [aka ray] anybody else go to the mummers day parade? You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] UCHS and Civic Center demolitions
Bill Sanderson wrote: Precisely. There are shades of grey to every issue. I don't expect UCHS to go to the wall for every possible encroachment on a historic structure in west Philly. Clearly you know a lot more about that body than I do, but I would expect such a group to pick their battles. The way I read what the University has said about its process in looking at whether the buildings could be preserved, I don't think I'd pick this battle. Others might--I'm not knocking jayfar's efforts, but this issue isn't one that I can get too excited about. OTOH, I'm in favor of a historic district, too. shucks, I know as much as the next person about what uchs is doing/not doing. as far as I can tell, uchs is a local organization which has been publicly battling on our collective behalf to establish an historic district in ucity, on the grounds of 'history' and 'preservation' and 'non-encroachment.' and I am trying, as a citizen of ucity, to understand uchs's definitions of 'history' and 'preservation' and 'encroachment' -- definitions which will affect my life and your life in ucity, definitions which will need to be publicly understood as new examples of 'history' and 'preservation' and 'encroachment' arise in ucity. and so I ask, publicly: given that uchs has thus far defined 'history' and 'preservation' and 'non-encroachment' in its efforts to establish an historic district, what is the uchs's stance on the imminent destruction of convention hall and the commercial museum? you may recall that I began this discussion by wondering if there was selectivity at work, in how some histories may be legitimized while others may not. unfortunately, it is not enlightening for me to know whether you are personally excited about any of this or not, or whether you personally favor historic districts or not, or whether you would personally pick this battle or not. I'm asking about something rather more public. . laserbeam® [aka ray] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Re: Scammer or Casing Alert
From: Mayer, Ann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 22:58:07 -0500 These guys sound smarter than the guy who stopped me one morning Telling me a story about how he had just lost a $25 bill and Desperately needed a loan to get a taxi to take him to the Airport. There's another one that I've seen three or four times in as many years. It was pretty convincing the first time, but now that I've seen it a few times I'm impervious. I've run into this in different parts of the city, with people heading in different directions. Say you're walking west on Walnut. A guy approaches me walking east, and asks me directions to 69th street station. So, you tell him to turn around and walk about 25 blocks west. He deflates, he's already been walking for 15 blocks because some cop gave him bad directions. So, now he's walking alongside you, talking to you. Maybe the cop gave me bad directions on purpose. The cop got all freaked out when he found out I had AIDS, didn't want me near him and stuff. Oh, that's awful, you say. He tells you what a good person you are, many people don't understand about AIDS, but you aren't one of those. He takes your hand, and there's a touching moment (literally) because he really appreciates the simple human contact. Then he explains that he's on his way to an AIDS hostel or retreat or something in Swarthmore, and that once he gets to 69th Street station he's got 50 cents for the train - someone said it was the R3?. After that, it's a pretty standard con, money for the train to 69th, money for the R3 to Swarthmore, money for food, etc. He may throw in that he needs to be there by some deadline, that he isn't going to make if he needs to walk to 69th and then panhandle for the fare. I've gotten this in center city when I was walking east (City Hall to Temple), and in west philly walking west (69th street station to Swarthmmore). Same story, possibly the same guy, it was more than a year later. As I said, I've gotten it three or four times. Probably comes from walking a lot. One guy added a particularly pathetic twist. He appeared to be a deaf mute, with a small pad of paper and a pencil. Same story, though. --- Chip You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] UCHS and Civic Center demolitions
I get a bit of a twinge of nostalgia about Convention Hall. The Beatles played there in 1964 on their first American tour. One would think that would be a point to keep the building. The Stones also played there one one of their first American tours. I am not certain, but I venture that many other famous people either played there or spoke there. I also loved the descent down the escalator into the Philadelphia Flower Show accompanied by the fragrance of hyacinths on a cold, sometimes snowy early Spring evening. Entering the show at The Convention Center just does not have the same effect. Another place that had lots of great acts was The Arena at 46th Market which was consumed in a fire I believe. Considering the present dearth of musicians and musical acts that have changed the medium forever, and the musical heritage of Philadelphia and its contributions to culture (pop and otherwise), I have often wondered why these places are razed so often. It's a sense of tradition an artist feels of playing on the same stage as one of the earlier greats or using the same dressing area. There were great places in West Phila. that contributed to the City's musical heritage and perhaps worth keeping. Just another point of view. Wilma de Soto On 1/2/05 10:02 AM, L a s e r B e a m ® [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Sanderson wrote: Precisely. There are shades of grey to every issue. I don't expect UCHS to go to the wall for every possible encroachment on a historic structure in west Philly. Clearly you know a lot more about that body than I do, but I would expect such a group to pick their battles. The way I read what the University has said about its process in looking at whether the buildings could be preserved, I don't think I'd pick this battle. Others might--I'm not knocking jayfar's efforts, but this issue isn't one that I can get too excited about. OTOH, I'm in favor of a historic district, too. shucks, I know as much as the next person about what uchs is doing/not doing. as far as I can tell, uchs is a local organization which has been publicly battling on our collective behalf to establish an historic district in ucity, on the grounds of 'history' and 'preservation' and 'non-encroachment.' and I am trying, as a citizen of ucity, to understand uchs's definitions of 'history' and 'preservation' and 'encroachment' -- definitions which will affect my life and your life in ucity, definitions which will need to be publicly understood as new examples of 'history' and 'preservation' and 'encroachment' arise in ucity. and so I ask, publicly: given that uchs has thus far defined 'history' and 'preservation' and 'non-encroachment' in its efforts to establish an historic district, what is the uchs's stance on the imminent destruction of convention hall and the commercial museum? you may recall that I began this discussion by wondering if there was selectivity at work, in how some histories may be legitimized while others may not. unfortunately, it is not enlightening for me to know whether you are personally excited about any of this or not, or whether you personally favor historic districts or not, or whether you would personally pick this battle or not. I'm asking about something rather more public. . laserbeam® [aka ray] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] UCHS and Civic Center demolitions
In a message dated 1/2/2005 10:14:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what is the uchs's stance on the imminent destruction of convention hall and the commercial museum? you may recall that I began this discussion by wondering if there was selectivity at work, in how some histories may be legitimized while others may not. Reasonable options for not addressing your question in 12/04 or 01/05:1) The subject properties are outside of the UCHS' operational area 2) The UCHS' primary focus is on the preservation of residential real estate 3) The UCHS understands the subject properties are outside of its sphere of influence Because of the transient nature of the community, its residents and community organizations have failed toengage in timely strategic (five, ten, 25 and 50 year) planning. The City, throughout the years,has failed todevelop and implement a comprehensive strategic plan for UC/WP. The UCSC (only 19 acres) was a Model City (Fed) Program developed by an NPO. What strategic off campus real estate development program UPenn had in the 80's was an oral tradition, advanced through straws to minimize speculators' opportunistic interference. The power of the state is absolute. The power of the state shall not be challenged. The power of the state may be vested in proxies who hire ex-agents of the state. How many ex-agents of the state have been hired by the UCHS? Has the FPCcut down all the Hemlock trees in UCD due to disease and anticipated reforestation? Craig MelidosianRealSolutions NetworkP O Box 33355Phila PA 19142-0555215-724-8148 24hr voice/fax215-724-3212 voiceBreakthrough RelationshipsEnhancing Value in Community GovernmentCopyright ©1998-2004
Re: [UC] Re: Scammer or Casing Alert
On 02 Jan, 2005, at 10:25, Charles H. Buchholtz wrote: He may throw in that he needs to be there by some deadline, that he isn't going to make if he needs to walk to 69th and then panhandle for the fare. That's why I always carry tokens. When you tell the guy that you don't have any money, but can give him a token that he can use on SEPTA to get to 69th street, he suddenly looses interest in further conversation and never takes the token. T.T.F.N. William H. Magill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Historical venues
On 02 Jan, 2005, at 10:59, Wilma de Soto wrote: The Beatles played there in 1964 on their first American tour. One would think that would be a point to keep the building. The Stones also played there one one of their first American tours. I am not certain, but I venture that many other famous people either played there or spoke there. But you will note that once those acts became famous, they never returned to Convention Hall, it was just too small. By that measure, one of the most important historical locations in the city is the old Second Fret on Sansom Street. Not only did it host Phil Ochs, but also Bob Dylan, Joanie Mitchel, and so many, many others. And don't forget the Gilded Cage which was there first. And of course there was the Trauma which opened with The Righteous Brothers. And lets not forget the long departed Showboat where so many Jazz greats performed. I also loved the descent down the escalator into the Philadelphia Flower Show accompanied by the fragrance of hyacinths on a cold, sometimes snowy early Spring evening. Entering the show at The Convention Center just does not have the same effect. The escalator had nothing to do with either the Municipal Auditorium or Civic Center Museum. It was in the adjacent annex building which is now a major hole in the ground with a bunch of toy cars in it. But you are correct, the present mechanism for entering the Flower Show is not nearly as impressive. Another place that had lots of great acts was The Arena at 46th Market which was consumed in a fire I believe. The Arena, as a venue, died when WFIL (now WPVI) moved its studios to City Line Avenue, and no longer hosted American Bandstand there. I think the only thing which survived for long after the move was an assortment of boxing matches. Of course, some of the more important venues now gone were the Old Music Fund Hall at 8th and Locust, now apartments; a plethora of real theater theaters, now all long gone, but which hosted every name star that the theater had to offer. I think the last one standing was at 21st and Market. And let's not forget the now abandoned Academy of Music, home of that famous Philadelphia Sound, yet to be re-created in the new Kimmel Center. And who could forget the importance of the first IMAX theater at 6th and Vine -- now channel 12's studios. And I'm not even moving beyond the bounds of Penn's Green Country Town to move north or South on Broad Street. T.T.F.N. William H. Magill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Historical venues
You're right about Pennsylvania Hall being the place for the great descent into The Flower Show. The Arena had more than just boxing matches and roller derby after WFIL moved from there. I do remember seeing the Isley Brothers there in the 70's. Other musical acts played there as well, but yes it's big heyday was when American Bandstand was there. Still, isn't there something to be said about saving these places where so many greats played? Also, I feel the Philadelphia Inferiority Syndrome has contributed to the de-valuing and lack of marketing these historical musical treasures, don't you think? I still wince when I think that The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is in Cleveland, Ohio (near where I went to college and a city that promotes anything that moves), instead of Philadelphia. What's wrong with this picture? On 1/2/05 11:59 AM, William H. Magill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 02 Jan, 2005, at 10:59, Wilma de Soto wrote: The Beatles played there in 1964 on their first American tour. One would think that would be a point to keep the building. The Stones also played there one one of their first American tours. I am not certain, but I venture that many other famous people either played there or spoke there. But you will note that once those acts became famous, they never returned to Convention Hall, it was just too small. By that measure, one of the most important historical locations in the city is the old Second Fret on Sansom Street. Not only did it host Phil Ochs, but also Bob Dylan, Joanie Mitchel, and so many, many others. And don't forget the Gilded Cage which was there first. And of course there was the Trauma which opened with The Righteous Brothers. And lets not forget the long departed Showboat where so many Jazz greats performed. I also loved the descent down the escalator into the Philadelphia Flower Show accompanied by the fragrance of hyacinths on a cold, sometimes snowy early Spring evening. Entering the show at The Convention Center just does not have the same effect. The escalator had nothing to do with either the Municipal Auditorium or Civic Center Museum. It was in the adjacent annex building which is now a major hole in the ground with a bunch of toy cars in it. But you are correct, the present mechanism for entering the Flower Show is not nearly as impressive. Another place that had lots of great acts was The Arena at 46th Market which was consumed in a fire I believe. The Arena, as a venue, died when WFIL (now WPVI) moved its studios to City Line Avenue, and no longer hosted American Bandstand there. I think the only thing which survived for long after the move was an assortment of boxing matches. Of course, some of the more important venues now gone were the Old Music Fund Hall at 8th and Locust, now apartments; a plethora of real theater theaters, now all long gone, but which hosted every name star that the theater had to offer. I think the last one standing was at 21st and Market. And let's not forget the now abandoned Academy of Music, home of that famous Philadelphia Sound, yet to be re-created in the new Kimmel Center. And who could forget the importance of the first IMAX theater at 6th and Vine -- now channel 12's studios. And I'm not even moving beyond the bounds of Penn's Green Country Town to move north or South on Broad Street. T.T.F.N. William H. Magill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] NOT ABOUT HD: TV/Antenna reception in Cedar Park
I get pretty bad TV reception (no cable, I've had it before-too expensive and often too boring). I'm wondering if anyone in the area has had any luck with roof antennae? Thanks in advance. Joe C. The Principle of the Common Good. The common good is understood as the social conditions that allow people to reach their full human potential and to realize their human dignity (Summary, p. 25).
Re: [UC] Historical venues
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, William H. Magill wrote: On 02 Jan, 2005, at 10:59, Wilma de Soto wrote: The Beatles played there in 1964 on their first American tour. One would think that would be a point to keep the building. The Stones also played there one one of their first American tours. I am not certain, but I venture that many other famous people either played there or spoke there. But you will note that once those acts became famous, they never returned to Convention Hall, it was just too small. Different sized venues are appropriate for different purposes or different acts. BTW, the figure I saw for Convention Hall was somewhere on the order of 13,000+ seats; it's possible they may have removed some seating over the years in minor alterations though. By that measure, one of the most important historical locations in the city is the old Second Fret on Sansom Street. Not only did it host Phil Question: Is the 2nd fret the building at 1904 Sansom with the colored terra cotta front that was a soul food luncheonette until the PPA bought up that row of buildings. I've only been here 24 years, so I don't know first hand, but the Daily News did a piece in the March 15, 2004 edition where they wrote that this was the case. On the other hand, the same DN article, by Jonathan Takiff, gave the street address as 1902 Sansom, which is a rear extension of the Sophy Curson shop. And let's not forget the now abandoned Academy of Music, home of that famous Philadelphia Sound, yet to be re-created in the new Kimmel Center. Actually the Academy is far from abandoned; the Kimmel controls the Academy of Music and is staging Broadway musicals there. http://kimmelcenter.org/broadway/ In fact for that reason, the Kimmel fought against a Tax Increment Financing package for Clear Channel's proposal to renovate the Boyd Theatre. They feared that with CC's stated intention to also program Broadway shows at the Boyd, the Academy would lose out. Kimmel President Janice Price was visibly distraught in testifying against Tax Increment Financing for the Boyd at a City Council hearing in November 2003. Of course since Kimmel Chairman Dan Whelan also sits on the Philadelphia School Reform Commission, which has to sign off on any proposed TIF, the TIF was DOA anyway, as the SRC failed to act on it. Cheers, Jayfar -- PhilaDeco.com http://PhilaDeco.com AIM: PhilaDeco Committee to Save Convention Hall fax bank http://www.hallwatch.org/faxbank/conventionhall/ You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] NAHD: Portable heaters
We are looking into some supplementary area heaters, and I just wondered if anyone has had any luck with them or some experience with one type or brand over another? I get the impression that they have approved in energy efficiency, output and safety. I would appreciate any help. Thanks, Joe C. Freedom is what you do with what's been done to you. Jean Paul Sartre
Re: [UC] UCHS and Civic Center demolitions
So why are you asking me? I have no connection to those organizations. I could look up the definitions in the current historic district legislation as easily as you could, I suppose. I applaud your posting your desire for enlightenment, but if you are really seeking it, putting notes up on a bulletin board and hoping some kind soul will respond probably isn't the most direct path. - Original Message - From: L a s e r B e a m ® [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [UC] UCHS and Civic Center demolitions Bill Sanderson wrote: Precisely. There are shades of grey to every issue. I don't expect UCHS to go to the wall for every possible encroachment on a historic structure in west Philly. Clearly you know a lot more about that body than I do, but I would expect such a group to pick their battles. The way I read what the University has said about its process in looking at whether the buildings could be preserved, I don't think I'd pick this battle. Others might--I'm not knocking jayfar's efforts, but this issue isn't one that I can get too excited about. OTOH, I'm in favor of a historic district, too. shucks, I know as much as the next person about what uchs is doing/not doing. as far as I can tell, uchs is a local organization which has been publicly battling on our collective behalf to establish an historic district in ucity, on the grounds of 'history' and 'preservation' and 'non-encroachment.' and I am trying, as a citizen of ucity, to understand uchs's definitions of 'history' and 'preservation' and 'encroachment' -- definitions which will affect my life and your life in ucity, definitions which will need to be publicly understood as new examples of 'history' and 'preservation' and 'encroachment' arise in ucity. and so I ask, publicly: given that uchs has thus far defined 'history' and 'preservation' and 'non-encroachment' in its efforts to establish an historic district, what is the uchs's stance on the imminent destruction of convention hall and the commercial museum? you may recall that I began this discussion by wondering if there was selectivity at work, in how some histories may be legitimized while others may not. unfortunately, it is not enlightening for me to know whether you are personally excited about any of this or not, or whether you personally favor historic districts or not, or whether you would personally pick this battle or not. I'm asking about something rather more public. . laserbeam® [aka ray] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Re: Scammer or Casing Alert
One common characteristic I've seen in reasonably good cons is that the amount of money involved is small enough that it won't be greatly missed by the mark, and not enough to raise a lot of concern about all the details of the story. I was a bit surprised by my neighbors story 'cause the amount was $50--which I'd view as pretty significant--but I guess my mindset hasn't kept up with inflation. - Original Message - From: Charles H. Buchholtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mayer, Ann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [UC] Re: Scammer or Casing Alert From: Mayer, Ann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 22:58:07 -0500 These guys sound smarter than the guy who stopped me one morning Telling me a story about how he had just lost a $25 bill and Desperately needed a loan to get a taxi to take him to the Airport. There's another one that I've seen three or four times in as many years. It was pretty convincing the first time, but now that I've seen it a few times I'm impervious. I've run into this in different parts of the city, with people heading in different directions. Say you're walking west on Walnut. A guy approaches me walking east, and asks me directions to 69th street station. So, you tell him to turn around and walk about 25 blocks west. He deflates, he's already been walking for 15 blocks because some cop gave him bad directions. So, now he's walking alongside you, talking to you. Maybe the cop gave me bad directions on purpose. The cop got all freaked out when he found out I had AIDS, didn't want me near him and stuff. Oh, that's awful, you say. He tells you what a good person you are, many people don't understand about AIDS, but you aren't one of those. He takes your hand, and there's a touching moment (literally) because he really appreciates the simple human contact. Then he explains that he's on his way to an AIDS hostel or retreat or something in Swarthmore, and that once he gets to 69th Street station he's got 50 cents for the train - someone said it was the R3?. After that, it's a pretty standard con, money for the train to 69th, money for the R3 to Swarthmore, money for food, etc. He may throw in that he needs to be there by some deadline, that he isn't going to make if he needs to walk to 69th and then panhandle for the fare. I've gotten this in center city when I was walking east (City Hall to Temple), and in west philly walking west (69th street station to Swarthmmore). Same story, possibly the same guy, it was more than a year later. As I said, I've gotten it three or four times. Probably comes from walking a lot. One guy added a particularly pathetic twist. He appeared to be a deaf mute, with a small pad of paper and a pencil. Same story, though. --- Chip You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Re: Scams In General - Welcome to my crisis
Love, Love, LOVE La Lupe! Unfortunately for those of us who want to stick to our diets, they deliver to the school where I work. Chilaquiles, anyone? On 1/2/05 1:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tokens in certain parts of the city that is a scam, too. If memory serves I recall being at Taller Puertorrique~no when somebody came in asking for a token to get home. Someone started digging and a staff member was very firm, No, no tokens here. When the hustler left we were informed that the tokens were sold at a discount to anyone with cash to support the hustler's habit of choice. Last night I was sitting outside at La Lupe's -yes! al fresco on New Year's Day! bliss!- that's at 9th and Federal. This one fella marched up and down from Lupe's to Geno's asking the same folks over and over for a dollar. Then he was joined by a female companion who sounded like a hard-sell pro: do you have a dollar for the bus? no?? Despite the fact that she had no luck with it, he also tacked on the same spiel. It was irritating but the pierna adobada and warm weather was worth it. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Historical venues
From: Wilma de Soto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 12:24:51 -0500 Still, isn't there something to be said about saving these places where so many greats played? Also, I feel the Philadelphia Inferiority Syndrome has contributed to the de-valuing and lack of marketing these historical musical treasures, don't you think? Since you asked, I don't think it's possible to market these buildings as historical treasures. Show of hands, here: how many of you have ever had visitors from out of town and said, I want to show you Convention Hall and the Commercial Museum; so many important events took place there. I have to say that a lot of this discussion sounds to me like people showing you their wedding album or vacation photos. Here's the place where I graduated from High School, and here's the place where I saw the Rolling Stones. It's interesting to people with a personal connection, or to historians, but not a big deal to anyone else. I don't think it's possible to market successfully. So, maybe this discussion is like an old married couple, one of whom says, Why don't we throw out all those old photographs? We never look at them anymore and we need the space. and the other spouse says, We can't throw them out! These are our history! Both points are valid, but saying, Maybe other people would like to come see our old vacation photos, we just need better marketing is a bit of a stretch. --- Chip You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] UCHS and Civic Center demolitions
In a message dated 1/2/2005 10:14:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and so I ask, publicly: given that uchs has thus far defined 'history' and 'preservation' and 'non-encroachment' in its efforts to establish an historic district, "Who controls the past, controls the future, and who controls the present controls the past." George Orwell, 1984. But, you knew that, didn't you? Al Krigman(Left of Ivan Groznyj)
Re: [UC] Re: Scammer or Casing Alert
Title: RE: [UC] Re: Scammer or Casing Alert I met this guy at the Hess station at 34th Grays Ferry. He had already succeeded in hitting me up with a different scam - where he wasn't deaf at all - earlier that year. I recognized him right away and got very angry with him. He fled pronto. Joe C. - Original Message - From: Kyle Cassidy To: 'Charles H. Buchholtz ' ; 'Mayer, Ann ' Cc: 'UnivCity@list.purple.com ' Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: RE: [UC] Re: Scammer or Casing Alert One guy added a particularly pathetic twist. He appeared to be a deaf mute, with a small pad of paper and a pencil. Same story, though. i've met this guy three times, always at 40th and locust. he says he's very frightened and asked for directions to 69th street.
