Re: [UC] More humane methods required in shootouts
Roomba Unveils Military Robot http://www.theonion.com/content/amvo/roomba_maker_unveils_military?utm_source=cnn00 At 09:57 PM 10/30/2007, missthin wrote: Well, I-Robot, you know the company that makes those cute, but mostly (imho) worthless Roombas? They're making a new spiffy thing called the Packbot which uses a joystick and is armed with tasers. http://zerosix.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/skynet-alert-roomba-gets-a-taser/http://zerosix.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/skynet-alert-roomba-gets-a-taser/ Is it humane? I don't think so, but neither are bullets no matter who's firing the gun. Wendy On 10/30/07, Joe Clarke mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't there a glue trap or some other humane alternative to respond to people with guns? Sheeesh. Joe (stickin' to my guns) Clarke Mariellen Smith wrote: Yeah it's probably the cops fault. I wish the police would stop stirring up all of this gun violence. What /were /they doing patrolling the streets, anyway? I smell a conspiracy. -Mariellen At 11:32 AM 10/30/2007, Mike VanHelder wrote: Since only a psychic can answer whether or not the police were a precipitating factor, Al, I can only assume that it's your intention to launch sly insinuations and attack the public's trust in our police forces under the guise of speaking for the community. Your opposition to the NID I can understand, though I think it's selfish and disingenuous, but what beef do you have with the cops, and why can't you just come out and attack them openly instead of peck-peck-pecking at them like an underhanded vulture? - Mike V. On 10/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question still remains... why were all the cops there anyway, who deployed them, and was their very presence a precipitating factor? Enquiring minds want to know Al Krigman See what's new at AOL.com http://www.aol.com?NCID=AOLCMP0030001170http://www.aol.com?NCID=AOLCMP0030001170 and Make AOL Your Homepage http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP0030001169http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP0030001169. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.htmlhttp://www.purple.com/list.html. Mariellen Smith Assistant to the Director / Rights Administrator University of Pennsylvania Press 3905 Spruce Street Philadelphia, PA 19104-4112 215-898-6263 fax 215-898-0404 Join our mailing list! http://www.upenn.edu/pennpress/mailinglist.html
Re: [UC] DP: no police misconduct in local gunfight
Yeah it's probably the cops fault. I wish the police would stop stirring up all of this gun violence. What were they doing patrolling the streets, anyway? I smell a conspiracy. -Mariellen At 11:32 AM 10/30/2007, Mike VanHelder wrote: Since only a psychic can answer whether or not the police were a precipitating factor, Al, I can only assume that it's your intention to launch sly insinuations and attack the public's trust in our police forces under the guise of speaking for the community. Your opposition to the NID I can understand, though I think it's selfish and disingenuous, but what beef do you have with the cops, and why can't you just come out and attack them openly instead of peck-peck-pecking at them like an underhanded vulture? - Mike V. On 10/30/07, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question still remains... why were all the cops there anyway, who deployed them, and was their very presence a precipitating factor? Enquiring minds want to know Al Krigman -- See what's new at http://www.aol.com?NCID=AOLCMP0030001170AOL.com and http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP0030001169Make AOL Your Homepage.
Re: [UC] Belgian Blocks on Chester Ave
You are so right. Those blocks are the worst. They are awful to drive on, difficult to bike on, and even sort of annoying to walk on. I don't care if they are 'historic looking' or 'charming' or whatever. They are barely functional. There is a reason that they stopped paving streets with them oh so many years ago. It's time to rip them out, pave it over, and move into the 21st Century. I hate SEPTA as much as the next person, and as a resident of Chester Ave., I am inconvenienced and annoyed by this project. However, if it will get rid of those hateful blocks, I will have something positive to cling to when this project turns into a fiasco of poor planning and low expectations, just like everything else that SEPTA touches. -Mariellen At 08:07 AM 9/28/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Ms Jones: As a resident and business owner in West Philadelphia, I urge you to ignore the wailing of the people who value a few stretches of Belgian blocks -- many in a condition that the Historical Commission classifies as of low integrity anyway -- over the needs of the people of West Philadelphia. The blocks are hazards to safety when driving, as well as causes of damage to the springs and shock absorbers of automobiles that pass over them. More than this, as you know, SEPTA is in dire financial straits and owes it to the people who depend on public transit to upgrade its infrastructure in a manner that will minimize long-term maintenance costs. Preserving a stretch or two of Belgian blocks that is hardly a tourist attraction or a destination for middle-school field trips, notwithstanding Historical Commission designation as something (nobody ever heard of) called a Historic Pavement Thematic District, is too high a price to pay for the people who use the roads and -- especially -- the West Philadelphia trolleys. Alan Krigman KRF Management 211 S 45th St, Phila PA 19104 215-349-6500, fax 215-349-6502 on-line bulletin board: http://www.iconworldwide.com/krf/newswww.iconworldwide.com/krf/news website: http://www.iconworldwide.com/krfwww.iconworldwide.com/krf -- See what's new at http://www.aol.com?NCID=AOLCMP0030001170AOL.com and http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP0030001169Make AOL Your Homepage.
[UC] what is going on with Chester Ave
Does anyone know what is going on with Septa on Chester Ave? There are signs saying it will be shut down for some indeterminate amount of time on Sept. 30. -Mariellen You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Tony, Purple, Villanova - was - the defectors to UCNeighbors
I wish somebody would be wry and amusing.:-( -Mariellen At 05:18 PM 9/18/2007, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote: Mariellen Smith wrote: Gosh, this has been super interesting. Maybe we could make a listserv for people to discuss the listserv itself. It would be a great place to debate the merits of the listserv, discuss listserv philosophy, explore the fascinating nuances of e-manners, and gossip about other listservs. If my inbox is any indicator, I'm sure this would be a busy and successful list. I know you're trying to be wry and amusing here or whatever, and I appreciate that, but, if we think about it, isn't 'discussing' what's published -- whether in print or online -- pretty much what's always been done? normally? publicly? just because we may happen to be the ones actually creating the content, having the conversation, doesn't mean we can't also discuss creating content or talk about having conversations. also, quoting another listserv or talking about what's posted on another website isn't gossip or bad manners, any more than quoting a newspaper or a teevee show, nor does it take any special philosophy or etiquette. for example, when glenn writes about kyle's list, about list gangs and penn-branded lists, and how kyle 'pre-banned' glenn from taking part in kyle's list, I can point out (with urls) how melani lamond and ross bender were posting to kyle's list before kyle ever announced it here on uclist on july 28. so in addition to 'pre-banning' there was 'pre-enlisting'. here's how that went [and anyone is free to publicly comment on it]: http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/01.html Richard Cardona Fri Jul 27 *** Richard Cardona Director for Information Technology Annenberg School for Communication University of Pennsylvania (215) 898-9614 http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/02.html Kyle Cassidy Fri Jul 27 Testing... http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/04.html Ross Bender Fri Jul 27 OK, let's see what happens. http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/05.html Kyle Cassidy Fri Jul 27 excellent. welcome aboard. we'll see how this goes for a few days. once more people get on, i'll experiment with forced moderation. the cool thing about this software is that i can pre-ban glenn! http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/06.html Melani Lamond Fri Jul 27 I'm in the Poconos, hoping to be sending the first email to Kyle's new listserv - but there may be no one on the list yet to receive it. Thanks, Kyle, and I look forward to a productive, friendly, helpful list. We may be able to DOUBLE the number of members the UC List has had, and multiply the number of people willing to actually speak up by a huge number, and really have a great communication system for our neighborhood. http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/07.html Melani Lamond Fri Jul 27 kcassidy at asc.upenn.edu writes: the cool thing about this software is that i can pre-ban glenn! This will be heaven. But, I hope he doesn't know where you live. http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/08.html Kyle Cassidy Fri Jul 27 there are three of us on it now. there are only 300 people on the uc list. i don't think 600 would be difficult to get. http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/09.html Ross Bender Fri Jul 27 Actually, 370 as of today. Impossible to tell how many of those subscriber addresses are still active. http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/10.html Kyle Cassidy Fri Jul 27 it's such a nearly non-existent slice of this neighborhood. 370 people. at least all the cranks are isolated. - - - - - - - the problem with that last remark (besides its rudeness) is that there is no such thing as being 'isolated' in the public square. uclist and kyle's list are both publicly accessible, and participation in both is subject to public scrutiny and public commentary. .. UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN [aka laserbeam®] [aka ray] SERIAL LIAR. CALL FOR RATES. It is very clear on this listserve who these people are. Ray has admitted being connected to this forger. -- Tony West Ray's falsehoods are more sophisticated, more believable -- Tony West
Re: [UC] Tony, Purple, Villanova - was - the defectors to UCNeighbors
THANK YOU! At 03:05 PM 9/19/2007, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote: Mariellen Smith wrote: I wish /somebody/ would be wry and amusing.:-( A thief in Paris planned to steal some paintings from the Louvre Museum. After careful planning, he got past security, stole the paintings, and made it safely to his van. However, he was captured only two blocks away when his van ran out of gas. When asked how he could mastermind such a crime and then make such an obvious error, he replied, Monsieur, that is the reason I stole the paintings. I had no Monet to buy Degas to make the Van Gogh. .. UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN [aka laserbeam®] [aka ray] SERIAL LIAR. CALL FOR RATES. It is very clear on this listserve who these people are. Ray has admitted being connected to this forger. -- Tony West Ray's falsehoods are more sophisticated, more believable -- Tony West __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Re: Crown Chicken
That's a shame. You can't stop Crown Fried Chicken. Lots of people seem to love it. My boyfriend says it's because the bullet proof glass seals in the flavor. -Mariellen At 08:09 AM 9/13/2007, Mark Krull wrote: http://mkrull.blogspot.com/2007/08/coming-to-arts-district-near-you.html - Mark http://www.mkrull.blogspot.com You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Tony, Purple, Villanova - was - the defectors to UCNeighbors
Gosh, this has been super interesting. Maybe we could make a listserv for people to discuss the listserv itself. It would be a great place to debate the merits of the listserv, discuss listserv philosophy, explore the fascinating nuances of e-manners, and gossip about other listservs. If my inbox is any indicator, I'm sure this would be a busy and successful list. -Mariellen At 11:51 PM 9/11/2007, Anthony West wrote: Get it about the filtering, etc., Frank. Still, many posters report they don't use listserves that way. They want to be able to scan a field of social incoming without constantly having to filter out objectionable public behavior. For them, internet public spaces that are responsive to consensual manners may be preferable to public spaces that resist them. Of course Dahlak is a public house by ancient English usage, Frank. Maybe not for you -- but clearly it is for many other members of the public. In fact, I'll bet you a trillion electrons there are thousands of residents of University City who consider hanging out at places like Dahlak public behavior and consider whanging away at places like UC-list private behavior. Takes all kinds, eh? -- Tony West Frank wrote: DeSales and Dahlak are public spaces?? The owners of Dahlak can refuse admission to practically anyone, I think, as long as they are not discriminating. DeSales is probably given even more leeway. I'm not sure about Locust Walk. Is it a city street or is it privately-owned? I've posted before about the difference between an obnoxious drunk in a bar and an obnoxious member of an e-mail list. I think it's obvious but, since you brought it up again, you don't seem to get it, so I'll say it again. Individuals on an unmoderated list can decide for themselves to filter out whomever they like with a couple of mouse clicks. The decision isn't made for them by someone else. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Re: New, improved, Crime UPDATE
Ed is awesome. At 03:47 PM 9/6/2007, Elizabeth F Campion wrote: The Burglars struck again, last night, and ... a quick thinking neighbor and very fast Police work led to the CAPTURE of two men. Last night at about 04:00, my neighbor Ed was startled from sleep by the repeated ringing of his doorbell. He looked out his window to see a man cross the street to his porch. Soon thereafter, Ed heard someone using tools on his front door. He dialed 911 and headed downstairs. As he yelled, The Police are on the way, the door was forced open. Fortunately a chain latch, kept it from flying all the way open. Ed got a good look at the two men attempting the Break-in. And he watched where they headed when they left his house. He saw their tools, and the bag they were carried in. These were guys, probably in their thirties. They behaved as if this was NOT their first robbery. One had acted as a lookout while the other rang the bell. They were dressed in dark clothing. They had tools and skills. The police caught one of the burglars almost immediately. The other was caught near 46th and Osage. Ed was able to identify both burglars, so they were held over. Ed is retired and is prepared to spend time in court helping it insure these creeps do time. When the 2nd thief was caught he still had the canvas bag, but he had managed to dump his tools somewhere. Today is trash day, so they may be gone (picked up with the trash)... ... but, if you live between 46th and Springfield and 46th and Osage, Please look in or near your front yards, alleys, hedges and trash cans. If you find a collection of tools that might be useful to criminals (Screw Drivers, small Pry bars, glass or bolt Cutters, etc) please report it to the Police. I'd love to see these guys, who cost Ed some sleep and new locks, go down for ALL the crimes they committed. They may be the same team that ripped off Elisabeth/ Maybe they can be forced into a plea that would lead to recovery of some of the missing items. I hope the Police are checking auto registrations and home addresses and using search warrants to recover things that may have been stolen from others and not yet off loaded to dealers or fences. It felt good to hear about the successful cooperation of neighbor Ed and the police. Best! Liz Mariellen Smith Assistant to the Director / Rights Administrator University of Pennsylvania Press 3905 Spruce Street Philadelphia, PA 19104-4112 215-898-6263 fax 215-898-0404 Join our mailing list! http://www.upenn.edu/pennpress/mailinglist.html
