Re: [UC] Slavery Disclosure Bill
Wilma and list - I agree. I also think that adding yet another form as someone stated, and asking people to expose whether they have any known benefits to slavery is a small price to ask. Sadly, most companies are unware of whatever profits they may have recieved years ago, and do not understand those other, non-monetary ways that they may have profited. And it's those other ways that can hardly be accounted for in this day, and will certainly not be admitted to. Why should they - isn't it rational that a group in power will act in ways to maintain that power? Why would any business in their right mind do the research, or do the math, and own up to any kind of profit? The Bill is full of holes, but their hearts were in the right place, I say. And that's all I can say on the subject - I have a busy day today. M. M. Harvey Wilma de Soto [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Dubin, Elisabeth [EMAIL PROTECTED], .net [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], UnivCity 04/01/05 06:30 PM listserv UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Slavery Disclosure Bill Dear Elisabeth, Mike, Brian and hopefully Matt, I cannot disagree with you on the fact that there were more important issues pending, and perhaps the Bill was badly conceived, written etc. I cannot speak for Monique, but as for what bothered me was the outright dismissal of slavery and its continuing benefits for some (due to the passing on of assets, access to resources and opportunity, and allegedly superior socio-political status etc.) Also, its continuing legacy of discrimination and denial of access to resources (based the assumed inherent inferiority of people of African descent) that allowed for these political, legal and economic manifestations to be written into our very society and that have not entirely disappeared. That was my main concern. As for reparations, there can be none. It would be interesting to follow the money trail, though just to see. I am sure there are more companies than just for instance, J.P. Morgan. It doesn't even have to be directly linked to the dealing importation or trading of slaves either; rather the exclusion and unequal access to the same resources and quality of life based upon the fact that your ancestors were once slaves, and you inherit the baggage of assumed inferiority. Perhaps the Bill itself was lacking, but to dismiss the entire issue of the accumulation of wealth, the passing on of assets, access to resources, equal education was not entirely correct either in my opinion. However, Matt has the right to his opinion and I still respect him and his right to express it. Wilma On 4/1/05 3:25 PM, Dubin, Elisabeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course we are, I agree. But that bill is weird at best and damaging to innocent people at worst. What is that supposed to achieve? ELISABETH DUBIN Hillier ARCHITECTURE One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636- | F 215 636-9989 | hillier.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilma de Soto Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 2:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity listserv Subject: Re: [UC] Slavery Disclosure Bill I agree, Monique. The supreme irony is in the title of the article: Legacy. It's the legacy of slavery that we are all dealing with on both sides black and white. On 4/1/05 1:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is true that the man has a right to his opinion. Probably fruitless to challenge him on it. Everytime I hear that line about slavery ending 100's of years ago I cringe. M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Slavery Disclosure Bill
It is true that the man has a right to his opinion. Probably fruitless to challenge him on it. Everytime I hear that line about slavery ending 100's of years ago I cringe. M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] support local businesses: Mela-drama
Liz, After reading your post, I am compelled to say that I have always enjoyed your posts, have never found you to be insulting or hostile in any way. I have read many very concerned and caring posts from you wherein you were trying to assist other community members, and did have the pleasure of meeting you once while I was looking for a realtor to sell my home on Cedar Ave. At that time you seemed friendly and very professional, and had I not already signed on with another neighborhood realtor just the day before you arrived, I would have chosen you to assist with the sale. Keep those good natured posts coming - your's are one's I've never felt compelled to delete upon seeing them in my mail. I actually look forward to them - along with the strange and wily humor I find in many of Ross Bender's, and a few other's. Ignore the negativity - don't give it the time of day. And thanks for so openly discussing your status as a recovering addict. So am I. I also don't take lightly the joking implications from well-meaning friends that I am stoned or high or drunk. I smile it off, but deep inside it strikes a chord - a bad memory, that I'd rather not experience. Well understood. M. M. Harvey Elizabeth F. Campion To: univcity@list.purple.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] support local businesses: Mela-drama Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .purple.com 03/16/05 01:51 PM Please respond to Elizabeth F. Campion For the record, and to the list, let me say that I feel... lots of hostility coming toward me, from you, Melani, in this post and in most other matters. There is not hatchett to bury. Every once in a while, you (Melani) portray yourself as a victim of my hostility and let me know that you are prepared to turn the other cheek, and I usually reply that I am not comfortable with your need to define me as a victimizer. I also let you know that I am not seeking friends from the subset of humans who are devoid of a sense of humor. As a professional, you are more than competant. As a person, you affect me like chalk screeched across a blackboard. I consider us an oil and water mix. My post was tongue-in-cheek. But, the reply you consider not hostile calls me petty, unprofessional and volatile. This is hostility, and consistent with the face you present to me at most meetings. Few other people would call me petty; my career success could not happen in a vacuum of professionalism; and I prefer passionate to volatile. Your words and hostility are out there. At best, you try to diminish me through invisibility (as in this mornings post) or exclude me from insider information. At worst... well, the list does not need to know. There has been enough bad behavior on both sides, that it is hard to tell any more what is cause and what effect. But, rest assured, I am to busy to give you much thought, except when you stick your neck out, as in today's posts. As long as we are addressing hurtful posts, I'd like to take Ross to task regarding one point in a recent post. I was hurt by the image he projected, of me, when describing an Archemedes moment, but can let it pass, since I am hoping friends enjoyed a laugh (I'm hoping for some it was an uncomfortable laugh) but I need to object the description of me as stoned. I am a former addict. I even did coke with George W. My husband and kids know that I survived drug addiction. They also know that some of my friends did not, and
Re: [UC] mover recommendations
I used Mambo for a move recently. I would use them again hands down, no questions asked. They did everything like they said they would. Arrived precisely on time with three strapping lads just like their website says, and did everything exactly as they said they would - cased out the situation, began loading, quickly and expertly, and did not break or lose one piece. They unloaded just as efficiently, put everything exactly in the place I asked them to, and took a very reasonable amount of time to do it. When I tried to help move boxes, thinking it would make it go faster, they wouldn't let me exert myself too much. Instead, they picked up the pace - it was already faced-paced move - to an even faster move. We moved an entire house from Philly to Berks County in record time. Safe, fast, friendly, careful movers. Price was not bad, either. M. M. Harvey Naomi [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: kreidlea [EMAIL PROTECTED], UnivCity@list.purple.com UnivCity@list.purple.com, Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: .purple.comSubject: Re: [UC] mover recommendations 02/21/05 10:08 AM Please respond to Naomi I used Move it out of the City Paper. They were awful. I ended up carrying more boxes than the 3 movers they sent. I've also used David Krumpfitsh (sp?) who came highly recommended. They broke things, shrugged it off and then charged me more than they quoted. I've used Mambo 3 times and feel that they are by far the best in the city and worth every penny. I continue to recommend them to everyone I know. Some of my moves and my furniture were really challenging (the last move was 9 straight hours and involved a solid mahogany desk that needed to go on the 2nd floor past some delicate woodwork). They handled it all with grace, ease and a smile. Mambo is by far the best I've ever used. Hopefully this last move was it but, if I need to move again, you can bet I'll call Mambo. Naomi on 2/19/05 4:34 PM, kreidlea at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are doing a local move within University City and considering AA Atkinson Movers and Havertown Movers for both packing and moving. We already have great references for Mambo, but does anyone have experience with the others? Thanks. Ann and Patrick You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. White Dog Cafe 3420 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104 http://www.whitedog.com (215) 386-9224 x105 The Black Cat Gift Shop 3426 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104 http://www.blackcatshop.com You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] movers
I used Mambo for a move recently. I would use them again hands down, no questions asked. They did everything like they said they would. Arrived precisely on time with three strapping lads just like their website says, and did everything exactly as they said they would - cased out the situation, began loading quickly and expertly, and did not break or lose one piece. They unloaded just as efficiently, put everything exactly in the place I asked them to, and took a very reasonable amount of time to do it. When I tried to help move boxes, thinking it would make it go faster, they wouldn't let me exert myself too much. Instead, they picked up the pace - it was already faced-paced move - to an even faster move. We moved an entire house from Philly to Berks County in record time. Safe, fast, friendly, careful movers. Price was not bad, either. M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Salty dogs
Thanks for the info. I'll check out the website. I love winter and snow, but it sure makes it hard to walk my dog for anything other than the shortest excursions to do his necessary work. And when we do walk, he has to avoid any stretch that has the salt. On more than one occassion I had to pick him up and carry him the rest of the way home. M. M. Harvey, You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] RE: Cinemagic 3
...plus the place usually has a bad odor, is dirty, with sticky floors, wrong temperature, lousy food, and the theatre doors are usually not opened until 2 minutes before the show, for the earlier shows. Once inside, you got to beg somebody to come to the booth and take admissions. And the employees are often too busy playing with each other to do what they are there to do. I hate the place. After the last time - I decided to not got there at all. I now choose The Bridge, or unfortunately, I go all the way to the Leows in Cherry Hill. If it's an artsy film, the Ritz theatres got my vote. M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] How an on-campus crime becomes an off campus problem
Yep - you're right. Jefferson has a Rape Crisis Center. I was assaulted at 52nd and Arch Street, about 15 years back. A Good Samaritan drove me in his vehichle to Misericordia (the closest Hospital to the scene). After my stiches were put into my neck, I was examined no further there. The had police on the scene who immediately transported me to Jefferson, to the Rape Crisis Unit, where the exam, questioning, and counseling took place. M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] More Important Poll
I vote NO NO NO. It's a conversation among a select group that doesn't go anywhere and proves nothing. Around and around in circles. People talking just to hear themselves talk. Take it off line at this point. That's my two cents and my vote. M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] can you help?
This bounced back when I tried to direct-reply directly to William H. Magill, so I'll get it to you this way... M. M. Harvey, MPP, MPH - Forwarded by Monique M Harvey/Health/Phila on 12/21/04 01:17 PM - Monique M Harvey To: William H. Magill [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/21/04 01:17 PMcc: Subject: Re: [UC] can you help?(Document link: Monique M Harvey) Thanks for the reply. We bought the stove at Home Depot. The salesperson said the one we have needs to be hard wired and that we should get an electrician, thus Home Depot will not install. Since we already paid almost $800 for the stove, I don't want to incur any more cost than absolutely necessary to install this one. I ought to go downstairs and turn of the power to that side of the house, and try the darn thing myself. I am sure the cut out is the right size - it's a matter of getting over my fear of the wiring. Maybe it's a matter of disconnecting the old, and reconnecting the existing wiring to the new. By golly, I think I'll check it out. If all else fails, I'll get an electrician in to do it. M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] can you help?
Hi - I was wondering if anybody out there uses an electric cooktop stove, and if so, how did they install it and how much did it cost to install. I have to replace my old one - came with the new house - with a newer version of the same model. M. M. Harvey (215) 685-5690 fax - (215) 685-5398 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Turn Your Back on Bush - NOT for the ignorant
Which of us are poorly educated and ignorant? Or, are you trying to say that by this act we would appear that way? I hardly think that's the case at all. I am sure that every opportunity we get to remind this administration that there are definitely policies that we cannot abide, and feel strongly enough about to perform such an act, is worth the effort to do so. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
RE: [UC] Turn Your Back on Bush - for the ignorant
Now that's too funny... Watch what you say online... you don't want to be a nabbed up with the rest of the conspirators once his deal goes down... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kyle Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], .edu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [UC] Turn Your Back on Bush - for the .purple.com ignorant 12/16/04 11:43 AM Please respond to Kyle Cassidy How quaint, the poorly educated and ignorant in a public display of solidarity. craig will now regale us with his vision of the high-falutin protest g. gordon liddy would be staging along the parade route had john kerry won: You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Read it and weep!
Well congratulations on your newly found riches! I guess the next step is for you to contact them so they can be sure to get your winnings to you as expediently as possible. Of course, you are aware this means you need to immediately send your full name, address, social security number, date and place of birth, parents names; all your banking info that includes your bank name, account number, passwords, bank routing number, and checking account number. If you prefer to split up this cash between savings and checking, you need to submit your savings account number as well. By the way, don't think you are the only lucky bastard on the web. I personally am proud to claim I too, was selected to have (get this... makes your paltry four million pale by comparison) a full 23 million dollars deposited into the account of my own choosing, because they believe me to be the last living relative (last name Harvey, like my own) of a recently deceased super rich political somebody-or-other from West Africa, I believe, somewhere around Mali, I think it is. All I will need to do is let them know my correct banking info and send my social security number so they can be sure this gets into the right account. oh yes, and I have to be willing to give some of this to the sender for their troubles. I haven't gotten around to sending the info yet because I have been so busy here at work... M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] UC Village Blues
Thats really funny - I think I've heard it all now... Ha Ha Ha.. M. M. Harvey L a s e r B e a m ® [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] il.orgcc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [UC] UC Village Blues [EMAIL PROTECTED] .purple.com 11/30/04 09:58 AM Please respond to L a s e r B e a m ® [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was straddling the line for a while, but I believe I have come to the firm decision that Ross is definitely crazy. Comical as hell, but crazy for sure. I think ross is using his conspiracy theories to avoid having sex with us. :-D . laserbeam® [aka ray] __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] UC Village Blues
I was straddling the line for a while, but I believe I have come to the firm decision that Ross is definitely crazy. Comical as hell, but crazy for sure. M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] The Triumph of Moral Values -- Everyman's America
Jon Moore said: ...Probably the best single thing each of us needs to do, for the good of America, is to find someone who voted the other way, and really try to understand *why* they voted the way they did. The vast majority of Americans are reasonable, decent folks (on both sides of the political fence). Bush voters are not dumb any more than Kerry voters are indecent. We have got to get back in touch with each other, and then demand that the political parties recognize our common interests rather than playing up their extreme ideological platforms. By golly, I think that might very well be one of the most profound statements I have read on the list since the political discussions began, when I started hitting my delete key regularly. I wholeheartedly agree. I had not thought of things in quite this way. Bush has won the election, for better or for worse, and perhaps its about time we moved on to a more positive set of and conversations, one that can lead us into an understanding of what it is we all really want in a leader, and for our country, and then hold him to the fire for it. Democrats and Republicans alike. Liberal and Conservative alike. I bet we do have more in common than not, and have probably been victimized by the massive divide and conquer ritual that is the hallmark of a bipartisan system. This realization also comes in light of what Ross posted. He said: Polls also showed that, despite several years of evidence to the contrary, a majority of Americans believed the Bush claims about WMDs, connections between Saddam and Al Qaeda, nucular yellowcakes, and the rest. They knew all about Dubya's service in the Texas Air National Guard, Cheney and Scalia's duck-hunting trips, Halliburton's no-bid contracts and the rest...Americans aren't concerned with the truth. They want a STRONG LEADER. One who doesn't FLIP FLOP. One who will bring FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY to the Ay-rabs, even if we have to kill them all first. I am not so sure if the fact is they really believed it or just don't care, or perhaps his satire has maybe gone a bit off the deep end, but there could be a hint of truth in what I think he implies. It's that people aren't always motivated by the truth but by their own gut-level needs, fears, and an overall desire to be safe. We have these preconceived notions (that we are taught, or brainwashed with...) about what we think the other cares about, or wants. And maybe we're all wrong. Maybe in some deep place inside, all Americans just want to feel safe and protected - Democrats and Republicans alike. Maybe wehn we all lay down to sleep at night we want to know we have done the right thing - morally, I mean. Maybe feeling safe to Bush's voters means taking the fight to their asses. Maybe feeling safe to the anti-Bush, anti-war group of voters means stsying out the war in the first place, and getting out now, and cutting our losses. Maybe being safe AND morally right to a liberal minded voter means live and let live, and so if gays want to marry, well by Golly it's their right, and besides who-am-to-say-they-are-not-as-loved-as-any-other-of-God's creatures-so-let-me-not-persecute-them because I might piss God off. Picking on his children, and all... Maybe to the anti-gay marriage sect - safe means leaving marriage as it is, for whom has always enjoyed it, because always been that way, and what-if-we-piss-God-off? Certainly THAT would not feel so safe now would it? There may be as many religious Democrats as there Republicans, but for each, safe and moral seem to take on whole new meanings. And so, like Jon Moore says, let's ask ourselves what really motivated people to vote like they did - dig deeper than the political propaganda and rhetoric - find the common ground, and hold Bush's ass to the fire to provide it. And recognize, that we are definitely not going to agree on HOW he does it. Point: I will always believe that our voting history has shown that even for local politics here in Philly, we seem to prefer those with a hint of gangsterism, questionable ethics, and notariety. And we're damn good at knowing it and overlooking it, just like Ross said about Bush's voters. It would seem that people like to know that whomever they elect, in a tight squeeze, they got our backs. I voted for Kerry. But truthfully, I never felt that safe with my choice. I just felt even less safe being over there in waht some people refer to as the Garden of Eden doing what we are doing, and I questioned our reason for being there, and our continued stay. A choice between two evils... M. M. Harvey, MPP, MPH Administrator of Quality Management Office of the Health Commissioner 1101 Market Street, Suite 840 Philadelphia, PA 19107 (215) 685-5690 fax - (215) 685-5398 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see
Re: [UC] Re: Firewood
I am about to move into a new home that has a wood burning fireplace, and I am relatively inexperienced except for the Duraflame logs I have burned, and the occassional campfire. I was wondering: 1) What is the difference between seasoned logs and the others? What happens if you wind up with unseasoned logs? Do they burn? How do you season them? 2) How much wood is in a cord? How much does it cost? If you burn logs about 5 hours per day, how long would a cord last? M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
RE: [UC] Re: Firewood
Thanks for the explanation about the firewood. The website was useful for estimating costs as well, even though they are located in California. I can't wait to get in front of my new family room fire! I go to settlement on the 19th, and will be moved in by the 28th. You can believe, I will have a fire in there soon after that M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Bush Victory
I don't believe in the like it or leave it philosophy when it comes to America. The right to stay and fight the good fight and try to right the wrongs is what makes this place cool. And knowing there's always hope that we will live to see our personal and political goals, values, ideals and beliefs realized, is what makes it the best place in the world to be, in my opinion. I'd never go as far as to suggest anybody leave just because they say they are unhappy with something. But hey, when they openly suggest it themselves, like when they threaten to pack up and leave because they don't like the outcome of an election, I always think one or both of two short, ole' fashioned statements: Suit yourself and Good riddance. ...and I am a Black, gay, American, who voted for Kerry, and don't mind saying so. That's my two cents. Now I got to get back to work, before I look up and find myself without a job... M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
RE: [UC] U City Urban Myths
YOUR beautiful woodwork? YOUR beautiful fireplace bricks? No, Kyle, at the time those crackheads painted it, it was most likely THEIR beautiful wood work and fireplace. And you have every right to go ahead and strip the paint off both bricks and woodwork to reflect YOUR good taste. Urban myths? Haven't heard any directly pertaining to that area (where I also live) but am looking forward to see what others come up with. I think I did hear something about people tearing up good woodwrok to use in the fire, but I don't remember whether it was pertaining to Cedar Park area. M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] HELP! - fax machine
Does anybody out there know where I can send a fax - I know there is an on- Campus place, a Kinko's kind of store on 40th and Walnut, but I live at 49th and Warrington. Does anyone know of a fax center closer to me than the one on 40th Street? Mine acts crazy, and I really will need to send a fax at about 7 - 7:30 this evening, and I do not want to have to catch the bus to the Campus. M. M. Harvey, MPP, MPH Administrator of Quality Management Office of the Health Commissioner 1101 Market Street, Suite 840 Philadelphia, PA 19107 (215) 685-5690 fax - (215) 685-5398 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Zoning Variance for Tattoo Parlor
About 6 weeks ago, my partner and I went to South Street to get ourselves a tattoo. We took our 16 year old son along, thinking he might be able to get the design he'd been begging for for about a year. Well, he went home disappointed. Seems the presence of a parent and proper I.D. means absolutely nothing unless you are at least 18 years of age, with proper identification. That's a good thing. I was also happy to see that each of the three places we visited was running a pretty neat operation. Licensed, clean, and using all the proper hygienic precautions - disposable needles, clean equipment, work stations properly disinfected, all the right forms to fill out and sign - the works. When I asked at each location why so much seemed to have changed since the parlors of the 60's and 70's, each reply was the same. Apparently, the Department of Public Health (DPH) forces these operations to run a tight ship. Inspections are frequent, and the least little infraction can get then fined or shut down. It may also have something to do with the high prevalence of hepatitis B and C, which we know are communicable bood-borne pathogens... Actually, I don't see why the presence of a parlor should be a problem. I mean, you could look at it this way - compare a new parlor to one of the old bars or deli's we got in the neighborhood. Bars tend to have plenty of intoxicated, sometimes noisy, sometimes obnoxious folks hanging around. They are smelly (you can ususally smell the cigarettes and beer 50 ft away..) and are way less tightly controlled by the DPH than parlors. Parlors aren't smelly (sparklin clean...) And at least parlors require you to be visibly sober before you can get a tattoo. And most people come in by appointment, so there is no noisy, intoxicated crowd hanging around. And a hot-to-trot group of teens can't send in a 21 year old to buy a tattoo for them - but they can send that 21 year old in to purchase a six pack or two. In a vote between which I'd prefer in a neighborhood like ours, I'd take the parlor hands down over another bar. (Smile) My 2 cents... M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Interested in Pastured/Humanely raised meats and poultry?
Let me get this straight. These animals are raised naturally, without hormones and chemicals, with good feed, not tortured all their lives or anything like that. So these are humanely raised, right? Then what - one day you slaughter them and ship them off to market and eat them? Oh... Are they humanely slaughtered? Just wondering... M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Interested in Pastured/Humanely raised meats and poultry?
Yeah, sounds ok to me too, since I will eat almost anything that can be kilt, skinned, dragged in, and cooked. I was just thinking that it seems strange to care enough not to let them suffer, then not care at all about slaughtering and eating them anyway. Seems a person would go one way or the other. But mayby not, I guess. I cringe at the thought of animals being tortured just like anybody else, but it doesn't bother me so much that I won't eat them afterwards, and boy, will I eat them!... So I don't make any issue of how humanely they were raised unless I intend to push for not eating them. I don't need to make myself feel better about killing and eating them by saying: well at least they were raised right. M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Re: Dry-Cleaners
White Seal has a good, clean, laundromat, as laundromats go. But I thought their cleaning services were a bit costly. I like the lady at the corner of Farragut and Baltimore Ave (Between 46th and 47th). She does an excellent job, her prices are low, and when I approached her with 24 pairs of pants that needed cleaning and hemming, she gave me an excellent value deal for the 24 pairs. All were hemmed and cleaned nicely. She cleaned my wife's wedding dress beautifully. M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
RE: [UC] I will answer Sharrief's question once and for all...
What's wrong will selling your house (hopefully at a huge profit) and living in a nice mansion on the water, or off it, anywhere, for that matter? I must have lost the thread of conversation, for I fail to see why this is something to be ashamed of... M. M. Harvey, just trying to keep up here You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] not comprehending: Taxes in perspective ...
...I give up. That's it - I can't take anymore. M. M. Harvey, MPP, MPH You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Free Mill Creek!!!
...hey - I know what we could do - 1.) warm months - fill the bowl almost all the way up with dirt, except for the last two feet. Plant flowers, grass, whatever. A beautiful bowl garden for the summer and spring months. 2.) icy months - fill it the rest of the way with water (covering the garden) and let it freeze over solid. WaLa!!! There you have it - a nice ice skating rink! In the spring it thaws, the water evaporates, and its ready to plant again. Ok, silly it seems, but at least there's no Loch Clark monster... M. M. Harvey, MPP, MPH Administrator of Quality Management Office of the Health Commissioner 1101 Market Street, Suite 840 Philadelphia, PA 19107 (215) 685-5690 fax - (215) 685-5398 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] WaLA?
Is it Wa La, or voila! Whatever M. M. Harvey, You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] bibical stance (was gay marriage)
Wow. Thanks for that enlightenment. I always knew there was something fishy about pointing to bibical text as proof God hates queers, but I've never seen it presented that way. That was great. Since there seem to be so many people who seek to use it as tool to hate, exclude, and inhibit, why not use the same tool to let them see the whole irrationality of their argument. The book can lend itself to many interprestaions, thereby supporting either side of almost any debate. ... supports it AND totally doesn't support the issues ...agrees AND disagrees ...says yes AND no (and maybe) ...go AND stop ...do AND don't. Since it can be so easily manipulated, and can interpreted a 1,000 different ways, that in itself should be proof enough that no rational society would use it as reference in deciding it's social and political mores. Especially in courts of law, and especially this issue of whether or not we can deny the right to marriage to consenting adults. Perhaps it would be best to try to understand the book in some other historical context; perhaps as a reflection of basic human nature; to aid our search for where we fit in the universe. And perhaps as a source of comfort, strength, and faith to those who seek it. And it can be all those things without being used to outcast and slander, inhibit the rights of, or otherwise hate any group of people. Leave it out of the courtrooms where we debate and rule on civil rights, social, and political issues. We gays are not immoral, unethical, deviant; product of bad choices; nor are we to be construed in any other negative sense. We are simply a variation in our species. Quite an interesting one, I'd say - but then I am biased. The whole Bible say's you're evil rhetoric imposed upon gays is both unbalanced and tiresome. And purely irrational on a number of levels. Thank's again, Fred. I got to go back to work. M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] gay marriage
Samuel - your point is a good one. And I add that perhaps in taking this a step at a time we may eventually as a society move closer toward affecting these kinds of social contracts regardless of the nature of the relationship between individuals. But there is one major point feel you have overlooked, and I think the debate spins on this axis, at least in part. The issue of gay marrage is not only about whether two people have the right to enter into a contract that involves property, medical benefits, inheritance rights, etc, but is one that centers in no small way on being legitimatized - on individual levels, as couples, as a group. It means being a step closer to full acceptance and positive recognition in a society that in the past has not done either to the degree we merit. Your position did not include this as a crucial basis to the debate, in fact, it seems to have overlooked this or trivialized it in light of some other, albeit important, issues. M. M. Harvey Samuel Nicolary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brian Siano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: cc: University City List [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [UC] gay marriage .purple.com 02/20/04 11:08 AM Please respond to Samuel Nicolary On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Brian Siano wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry, Dan, but scripture is not clear on this subject. Just as the Bible has been manipulated to justify slavery, colonization of less developed peoples, and opression of women, scripture is still being manipulated to oppress gays and lesbians. Interesting arguments, in general. But why bother? There's no such thing as God. The Bible is not the basis for our legal system. There is _no reason whatsoever_ to even _bother_ with debating fine points of the Bible on this matter. For me - it comes down to this: either throw out the entire domestic partner benefit system on all levels altogether or make it available to any two individuals who wish to enter into a partnership for whatever reason - it doesn't have to do with whether or not the two people stare dreamily into each other's eyes, whether or not they have sex or whether or not they plan to either adopt or procreate on their own - it is simply a social contract. The details of the benefits of the partnership could be worked out so that the advantages would only be if a certain financial criteria were met and the disadvantages of termination would be steep - i.e. You could add this partner to your health plan if they didn't have health benefits available to them elsewhere. The cost of a divorce would be expensive without cause. The dependent benefits of the union of these two individuals would remain as is. This is not a gay issue - gays just fall under its scope. Wouldn't it be nice if two close oppositely sexed friends who chose to build a life and raise artificially inseminated, adopted or foster children or no children at all together could do so and receive the same benefits as a married heterosexual couple with or without kids? They can now if they cheat but not all sex combinations can cheat unfortunately. The warranted scenarios are endless and involve each possible combination of sexes. The existing state of this system is the result of heterosexual marriage with children in the picture - I don't think that is very arguable and is probably why a lot of people don't see the issue clearly. The philosophy that is behind what exists now just needs to be applied in a more modern sociological sense - that is what challenges a large portion of our society - especially those who have fundamentalist values with regard to sexuality. I think sexuality has nothing to do with it anymore - it is about support and co-dependence. It does the issue a disservice when it is centered on
[UC] biblical stance
Just wanted to add that I was spellingbiblical incorectly in the past messages. I am hereby correcting the spelling in the subject line. M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] gay marriage
...We can instantiate any amount of laws on the subject but that isn't going to make society and its various organizations accept it - that is not the role of government anyway, right? It is true that enacting a law cannot make people be more accepting of the issue, and that government cannot take a role of making people accept one another. But it has been shown to be true over and over that having a law in place does lend legitimacy to an issue, and helps to prevent unpunished action against individuals by those who do not accept. Civil rights laws didn't make those whites who hated blacks accept blacks in society - but those laws did help us to be recognized as a valid segment of society, and to that end did legitimatize our outcries. And they did serve to legitimatize our right to be here, treated as equal members of society, none the less. And we can use them to punish those who challenge us on that level, whether they like it or not. It is a big statement when a society votes to say we don't care whether you ever like gay couples or not, but we recognize them as equal members of this society, and will afford them the same rights in marriage, discrimination, whatever, as straight couples. And it is a first step to having people behave in a more positive way towards us (whether they ever like it or not). So I am happy to see the battle fought as a gay issue, regardless of the larger context to which it may point, and other issues it may entail now, or at some later date in social evolution. But that is my biased opinion - I am gay. M. M. Harvey, MPP, MPH Administrator of Quality Management Office of the Health Commissioner 1101 Market Street, Suite 840 Philadelphia, PA 19107 (215) 685-5690 fax - (215) 685-5398 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] gay marriage
My sedimants, exactly, Sam. How can anyone determine we are voting for Bush because we are discussing the gay marriage issue??? I hate to say it, but I don't see one bastard worth voting for in this upcoming election that would make my day. Not one. But you I can tell you now, and you can bet, it won't be Bush M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Political B.S
Fred, as of now, I have ceased to assume the posting from William Zardus (devil's advacat) was a joke, as I have received no response from him to confirm whether it was or wasn't. If it was a joke - it was in poor taste. And I agree with you. As I was saying, as a married, stone butch with kids, I felt miffed by that statement implying you can teach kids to be gay. In fact, the only thing my lesbianism has taught mine is to be more accepting of individuals who love differently - at the very least, to be tolerant (which is a word I generally can't stand applied to social, political, gender differences - but it applies here...) of the differences. Or maybe perhaps it has taught them the art of forgiveness, what with all the practice they got forgiving, and watching me forgive those poor ignorant ones who attempt to hurt me with their words and deeds. As far as behind closed doors, it is my wish that all gay, lesbian, trannies, and everybody else on life's continuum of sexual and gender identities, could be wide open and out there with it, like me - but that is unfortunately not so - because of individuals who make foolish statements that criticize, yes - like the one's you made, and real a**holes who back those statements up with actions that hurt. Of course, that's just my .02 on the issue. I don't expect everyone to agree, but I do expect people to be more considerate of the kinds of jokes they post. M. M. Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] .purple.comcc: Subject: Re: [UC] Political B.S 02/12/04 05:10 PM Please respond to Bronswolfe Bill. You wrote: If gay marriage becomes legal that will make it easier for them to adopt kids and teach them to be queer too. (Not that there is anything wrong with that) I am positive that that you cannot teach someone to be gay. Either God makes you gay, or straight, or somewhere in between. One can no sooner teach someone whose orientation is heterosexual to 'switch teams than one can teach someone attracted to the same gender as themselves to go straight All those ex-gay testemonies are a bunch of BS. Why can't they stay in the closet and do this stuff behind closed doors instead of doing it in public parks and other public places ? There is a small minority of the gay population who do this. Accept my appologies for their behavior. But for myself and my partner, and our numerous friends who were created gay, don't generalize about our sexuality and we won't generalize about yours! Finally, after spending thirty-two and a half years with the same man, I've earned every benefit that the govenment gives a heterosexual married couple, but because we can't be married, our civil rights as a couple and a household are minimal! I am positive we are being screwed! Fred Wolfe WRZ PS - Positive feedback only please. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Equality of taxation
FX Winkler references the following: Parents are systematically more likely to think of the future of our planet and our society, because their children and the prospect of further generations of descendants give them a long-term stake in that future. Childless people, in the knowledge that they are a Darwinian blind alley, take a far more nihilistic, me-first attitude to the problems of the world. The childlessness epidemic of the last twenty years has meant that this selfishness has become unacceptably prevalent. Cappy says: Show me a scientifically conducted survey that indicates that childless people are less likely to care about the future of the planet. Until you can do this, I call bullshit on this argument. And, agreeing with Cappy, I say: That is so much bull... I mean what - is he implying that people with kids care, and those without them don't? Got to be kidding. Might be the other way around at least sometimes. I have heard people say they care too much about kids to bring them in this world. Likewise, those who keep having them year after year, back to back, with no resources or support to raise them well. There's no sense in generalizing one way or the other. I mean, where does a person get off implying such unreasonable nonsense? M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Bashing Redux
I am usually too busyor uninterested to respond to the insights I see on most posts. But this one - I just had to jump in on. Yes, William Zardus... there are at least some people who are very, very happy when killers are caught thirty years after the fact, or forty years, or even fifty, and I would presume they are definitely in their right mind. It's the families, friends, and other loved ones of the victims who would like to put the fear, grief, and pain behind them and are now able to attempt some closure to the whole situation. And as to the straight/gay thing and the hate crimes - I won't even humor you by addressing your ignorant response on that subject. M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Re: history (was gentrification)
I think everyone will agree - the original conversation was about the gentrification of the UC area, but somewhere along the line, we started with the history of the area, and now it's a history/nostalgia thing... We forgot to change the subject line. Yes - history is a more appropriate subject line, or even memory lane or nostalgia. Right, folks? M. M. Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: .purple.comSubject: [UC] (no subject) 01/20/04 07:05 PM Please respond to BAShowell I constantly see the word GENTRIFICATION being used as titles in all of this information about the History of University citybut am confused because the word gentrification has a different, usually negative, meaning to most folks. Will someone please clarify this word, or what you are talking about,and end my confusion. Thanks. Beth a. Showell You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] anybody out there
I am trying to find out if my messages are going through. I keep asking for a response to something and not getting it so I don't know if anybody is getting my messages or I am just being ignored. Please reply if you get this. I have been asking about when Hack airs, and on what channel. Nobody responds, yet the conversation is going on about Hack all around me. Is anybody out there??? M. M. Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] never mind
Okay, so it looks like I got the message out after all. Please ignore the last message, I am indeed connected and it looks like people are receiving my messages. Okay okay, I gotcha M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Re: dogs and civil rights (formerly Hack Dogs)
Thanks, Wilma. Very well put, and my sediments, exactly. M. M. Harvey Wilma de Soto [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: William Zardus [EMAIL PROTECTED], et UnivCity listserv [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [UC] Hack Dogs .purple.com 01/11/04 11:19 AM Please respond to Wilma de Soto Dear Mr. Zardus, To my knowledge, there is no law prohibiting black men from walking on a street where there are white women. However, there IS a leash law in the City of Philadelphia. When one makes such analogies one should try to compare similar circumstances. It strikes me as curious that whenever people are trying to make a feeble argument, a comparison to race or the ongoing civil rights struggle by people of color (i.e. To be able to live and walk anywhere without incurring irrational fears by others) is ultimately invoked as a source of justification. In my humble opinion, that is a misuse of a very real issue governing the lives of many people, and a sign that people do not take it seriously enough or respect the fact that these concerns are valid. Contrary to what may be your belief, people of color are able to understand and converse on various facets of an argument without one having to gratuitously throw in allusions to race or the civil rights struggle as a basis of comparison, that have no bearing on the argument at hand. Sincerely, Wilma de Soto On 1/11/04 3:22 AM, William Zardus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot of white women are afraid of black men that they see approaching. Does that mean that black men should stay off the street or would it be better for people with irrational fears to seek counseling for their phobias ? Try carrying an extra pair of underwear with you so you will always have a clean pair to wear WRZ Original Message Follows From: S. Sharrieff Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: S. Sharrieff Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [UC] Hack Dogs Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 16:35:54 -0500 Ok one for the road... Last night I was coming home at about 8ish and there was a man walking his dog in front of my house. The dog runs down the street in the opposite direction of the owner. I asked owner if his dog was on a leash, he replied does it look like he is on a leash?, I said well it's dark and I thought he was on a cord until he ran so far away from you, I mentioned that many people were frightened of dogs off leash. He said Oh..he is very well trained. The End. S. _ Learn how to choose, serve, and enjoy wine at Wine @ MSN. http://wine.msn.com/ You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Scientific Survey
I'd paint the larger, less sunny one a shade of creamy, light blue - there's about a million of them, so choose the one that looks best with the white trim and oak floors. The other, well let's see - I'd do a shade that looks like magenta mixed with peach, to compliment the sunny nature of the room. Or, if you're not so adventurous, pale yellow looks good in a sunny room. My two cents - M. M. Harvey You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] cencus - dog owner?
I am a dog owner. I rarely take my dog to Clark park because he is so goofy acting that even on a leash he reacts badly to other dogs who may run up to him, and so its more trouble than it's worth to let him hang out there, except to walk him through and keep going. My vote: I'd like to see a fenced in dgg area built. That way people can let their dogs off the leash (if they tend to be playful friendly dogs) and other friendly unleashed dogs and owners in the fenced in area can play at their own risk. It would be nice if dogs could be able to run and jump and play in a fenced in area. M. M. Harvey, [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Ellingsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: UC [EMAIL PROTECTED] rth.org cc: Sent by: Subject: [UC] cencus - dog owner? [EMAIL PROTECTED] .purple.com 11/03/03 01:06 PM Please respond to John Ellingsworth Informal poll; you can email me off-list if you prefer. How many members of this list are dog owners and would like to see a fenced in dog area built? How many members of this list are dog owners and would NOT like to see a fenced in dog area built? How many members of this list are NOT dog owners and would like to see a fenced in dog area built? How many members of this list are NOT dog owners and would NOT like to see a fenced in dog area built? Thanks, John Ellingsworth http://ellingsworth.org/john/ AIM: jellings28 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] ALERT: Car Breakin - 4800 block of Beaumont
I live in the 4900 block of Cedar Avenue, and there is a car across the street from me which goes off every time a heavy vehicle rolls by. If a city truck goes by, it sounds off. If a large SUV goes by, it sounds. If anything at all happens, it sounds. It does this until at least 2 or 3 am, when the streets have relatively no traffic. I'll bet that's the one you're hearing. I started checking each time I heard an alarm, due to posts about break-ins, and that's how I discovered this baby that cries wolf. Oh well, what can you do... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Margie Politzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Joe Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED], University .net City [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [UC] ALERT: Car Breakin - 4800 block of .purple.com Beaumont 10/30/03 08:37 AM Please respond to Margie Politzer Speaking of Tuesday night, I live on 4600 block of Hazel, and was woken up REPEATEDLY by car alarms going off in a distance. Lots of break-ins that night? Margie From: Joe Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Joe Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:59:38 -0500 To: University City [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [UC] ALERT: Car Breakin - 4800 block of Beaumont Our car was broken into Tuesday night. Someone took a screw driver to the trunk of the car and broke the lock. There was nothing in the trunk of great value, but the damage and repair costs will be significant. I am posting this in order to alert everyone who lives in the area. We have reported this to UCD and will notify the police. Joe Clarke The first casualty of war is truth. And when the elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Dipping and stripping
Thanks a bunch, everyone. That was the most informative answer to date, and I think it gives me a better understanding of the kind of work that is involved. Actually, the house has been for sale for a couple of months, but I continue to do some things in there because I feel it increases the value. Each potential buyer gets to see a better house than the one before, moving me closer to the one who will pay my asking price. And hell, if I wait long enough and find no one buys, I will take it off the market (regretably) but I will have a beautiful home - much more attractive than the one I started with. So either way, labor intensive or not - it is worth it in the long run. Thanks for all the replies I got both online and off. M. M. Harvey, MPP, MPH Administrator of Quality Management Office of the Health Commissioner 1101 Market Street, Suite 840 Philadelphia, PA 19107 (215) 685-5690 fax - (215) 685-5398 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Re: hanging decorum
I agree, Brian. It's always good to KNOW exactly who you're dealing with. Besides, nothing like a PUBLIC hanging, especially when it's a SUICIDE... (Imagine all the noise I'm gonna hear from this post... whew!!) Brian Siano [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [UC] [ADMIN] decorum (and more noise) .purple.com 09/30/03 06:30 PM Please respond to Brian Siano On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:52:41 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do people feel about establishing a rule, no ethnic, racial, religious, gender or sexual orientation slurs, even if the intent is irony or parody? And/or, maybe something in the direction of, if I wrote this as a letter to the Inquirer, the DP, or The University City Review, would my language be acceptable for publication? I'm against it. I'd prefer to know which people are assholes and which aren't, and telling them to keep it under wraps makes it more difficult. If people want to risk embarassing themselves with silly postings, I say, let them hang themselves. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Hack filming in our neighborhood
I think the benefits to the neighborhood economy are negligible. Like you said, it seems they always cater their foods in, and I doubt seriously whether they have rented apartments to stay in our humble neighborhood. Shopping (clothes, etc) is probably not in our neighborhood either. It hasn't bothered me as far as parking and driving, so far, because I live at 49th and Cedar, and I haven't seen them over here yet. But twice, during the period when the trolley was being diverted because of work in the tunnel, it created a traffic mess leading up to and around 42nd and Baltimore where the trolley need to turn. No, I don't think I mind them here. However, I am not impressed by actors and there prescence doesn't exactly thrill me either. As far as whether the neighborhood groups were ever asked, I do not know, but certainly, no one ever asked ME whether it was okay to film here. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
RE: [UC] Movie Shoot in Clark Park
I agree. Perhaps we all might be better off to spend our energy, money, stress, and time attempting to hold all landlords to a high level of responsibility, rather than trying to control how many rooms/individuals you can charge rent for in your own home. I do understand the point of zoning laws, however. According to how buildings are zoned, safety standards are set, tax rates are set, property values are raised and lowered, and neighbors are given the option to play a role in what their community property values are, by choosing to agree with or fight the zoning board decisions or not. But if a responsible landlord renting rooms in a private home can and does maintain a level of care and responsibility for the property and for his neighbors that will incur no adverse effects on his home or his community, so be it. No taxes raised, no values going down, and nobody's business who lives in his safe, clean, quiet, well maintained home. There are several in the Cedar Park/University City area which are standup homes - well maintained, and some of the neighbors don't even know there are 4 or 5 rooms rented in there. Landlord Responsibility - not policing for family members is what keeps it right You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
RE: [UC] Property Tax Increase- 2004
Well, my post WAS to complain, and I still feel like ripping hair. My pocket does not care about the REASON and LOGIC of the increase. I hate it none the less. I am one of those folks who is constantly looking for a better paying job, and not finding it, because of the economy, or perhaps because I seem to be at a ceiling these days. But my bills (gas, electric, taxes, mortgage payment) are continuing to go up. I have already taken a 12,000 per year salary cut to be able to work a 4-day week instead of 5, because of my health. Now I dread the day when I have to sell my house and go back to a cheap, small apartment. I feel like i am going backwards - this hike just really adds to the depression. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] rebuilding dentels
If you find out anything, let me know. I have the same problem. I need a skilled carpenter who can replace the rotton wood while maintaining the integrity of the Victorian style. fax - (215) 685-5398 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jeff Abrahamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: University City List Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: purple.com Subject: [UC] rebuilding dentels 06/02/03 07:08 PM Please respond to Jeff Abrahamson Does anyone have a reference for someone who can rebuild the dentils and other detail on Victorian houses? I have a bay with some rotten dentils and another with some rotten metal work. Not a lot of work, but special enough. The guy I've used in the past isn't available right now. Thanks. -- Jeff Jeff Abrahamson http://www.purple.com/jeff/ GPG fingerprint: 1A1A BA95 D082 A558 A276 63C6 16BF 8C4C 0D1D AE4B You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Proposed Use-4508-4538 Chestnut
A homeless shelter, especially one that is well planned and well run, would be a much needed facility. How often have we complained about those individuals on the streets who refuse to go into shelters because of their perception that it is actually better on the sidewalk than in the shelter because of stealing, overcrowdedness, unbearable rules, filth, etc. And yes, it does add a measure of diversity to the community that some people would rather not see. I, personally, would welcome any facility that provides a much needed service, and feel especially saddened by those who can only see as far as their own (obviously) comfortable lives, where most or all their social service needs are met. However, I must add, that it is not snooty to be concerned about property values. That in itself is a reasonable concern for all us property owners. I do agree with you, David. To place the concern of property values over the larger needs of the community can be construed as ignoring social justice, and the Not-in-my-backyard attitude does reek of snooty-ness... [EMAIL PROTECTED] .edu (DavidTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Toccafondi)cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Subject: Re: [UC] Proposed [EMAIL PROTECTED]Use-4508-4538 Chestnut purple.com 03/28/03 04:06 PM Please respond to davidtoc I don't think I'm comfortable having someone as a neighbor who would oppose a homeless shelter. You mention that our neighborhood has been on an upswing. I would argue that a facility of this sort continues that progress--or were you thinking about property values instead of social justice? The way I see it, the addition of a shelter to our neighborhood would have a double benefit. Not only would it provide much-needed services, but it might also serve to chase the snooty people away. Hell, I'm calling Jannie's office right now! Thanks for the tip. dave -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pobox.upenn.edu/~davidtoc Dear Neighbors: The property once occupied by Mercy-DouglasHuman Services(not part of the Hospital group) at the above location is up for Sheriff's sale on Tuesday, April 1st. Cost $1,208,937.95 The property is directly across the street from West Philadelphia Catholic High School. It has come to the attention of the neighbors that one of the bidders on this property is connected to a city agency to turn this 200 bed property into a Central In-Take Facility for the Homeless for the City of Philadelphia. (The City would be closing down current facilities on Juniper Street and North Philadelphia). Our neighborhood has undergone many changes over the past 20 years. We are currently on a great upswing. This proposed use would turn away any new prospective homeowners and businesses. I would appreciate your help in contacting today Councilwoman Jannie L. Blackwell-408 City Hall, City Hall, Philadelphia, PA 19107. Her phone number is 215-686-3418 Fax is 215-686-1933. Thank you. Betsy Magill You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] housing for older years
Yes, I often think about growing older (and disabled - I have liver disease) in this beautiful neighborhood. I have a big old monster near the corner of 49th and Cedar, and I imagine it will be just too much to upkeep. I am in my 40's now, not nearly ready to retire even, and yet still I wonder... I wonder will the neighborhood still be the same. Will all those wonderful places you mentioned even still be there? I have made plans to accomodate a couple of grad students, or visiting professors (rent a couple rooms, you know?) to assure I will be able to keep up the mortgage and the bills and the upkeep. That way, who knows, maybe I can age in place as they say, and still be able to keep my head above water. It's a good idea for anyone in a huge house, but I guess its also just a matter of whether a person wouldn't mind sharing space. I have often passed that 48th and Springfield house and wondered who lives there and whether it was a private home. I have also pictured me in it a number of times... Who knows, the lucky owners may decide to do something like what you said in the future, and someone like me would be on the waiting list to move on in. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] HOMEOWNERS INS NIGHTMARE
I use JMAR Insurance. They are reasonable. I pay about $800 per year for the basic homeowner's package. They raised their rates from last year - my bill was only $690, if I am remembering correctly. It's a small company, and I've never had to file a claim for anything. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] voodoo or cockfights?
I never make official statements from the department of public health. We have a media person whose job it is to do that - his name is Jeff Moran. I think you saw the signature on my email and assumed my statement to be official. That's signature is on all my emails - I am emailing from my desk at work - purely coincidental that it is the health department. For instance, I think one of us on this list serv is a Professor of Veterinary medicine whose signature contains the University department where he works, however, I never assume his responses on this list serve are an official statement from the University I am on the list serve because I live in this community, and I happen to receive and send my emails from my job, because my computer at home is down. Its just a coincidence that I work here in the Health Commissioner's office, and had I not sent this email from work, no one would have know where i work. My job, and my conjectures about why there is a decapitated rooster in Clark Park are totally unrelated. By the way - did anyone think about calling the proper folks over in the Streets clean-up department to get rid of it? Monique M. Harvey, MPP, MPH Administrator of Quality Management Department of Public Health Office of the Health Commissioner 1101 Market Street, 8th Floor Philadelphia, PA 19107 (215) 685-5690 fax - (215) 685-5398 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
