Re: [UC] the video knows

2007-11-16 Thread Glenn

Anyone on the list have any intuitions about where pressure to change or
clarify the rules would best be applied?


Andrew,

I completely agree with you!  PHC does not make transcripts only a synopsis. 
And I am still waiting for Mr. Farnham to call back to schedule a time for 
me and a reporter to listen to those tapes.


This policy is outrageous.  I have been coming to the conclusion that the 
courts need to be involved as government turns more of the power over to the 
corporate consortium.  I'm thinking a phone call to ACLU is the place. 
Babbette Josephs is on the Board and I would be happy to connect you 
off-line to her office.  She just placed a letter in the UC Review about the 
efforts to deal with information at the state level.


At the full commission Nov 9, Farnham interrupted the proceedings to 
announce that the public could have discovered the changes to the Penn plan 
by coming to his office and asking.  Some folks chuckled and Sklaroff said, 
how would the public know.  I made two trips on Tuesday to get what they 
call transcripts and finally got my hands on the pathetic synopsis for Oct. 
23.  Except for those tapes which seem to be unavailable without a fight, 
they intend that synopsis to be the public record!  I hope the tape hasn't 
been shredded!


This is about freedom of information and there is no way this could be 
legal.  And something is seriously wrong if the public, you, can't do this 
job that should be done by the commission staff.  My gosh, what if a 
historic designation had been imposed here to kick poor and lower middle 
class people out of the neighborhood?


Thanks for standing up,
Glenn

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As I noted in passing just after the Architectural Review Committee 
meeting, I
was prevented from making either a video or audio recording of the 
proceedings.
The chairman of the committee had someone check with his legal department 
in
issuing the denial, and I wasn't prepared to push it at that point.  My 
sense

was that they may never have faced such a request before, but for public
proceedings like that, it seems like a constitutionally indefensible 
policy.

Anyone on the list have any intuitions about where pressure to change or
clarify the rules would best be applied?  You can take it off-list, and 
I'll

summarize if you prefer.

Andrew

Quoting UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Anthony West wrote:
 the architect from Atkin Olshin Schade had a slide of exactly what the 
 new

 skyline would look like, from Baltimore Ave. You can contact Lussenhop
 and ask if you can see it.



let's see ALL the slides, while we're at it! they could be
posted on a (free) publicly-accessible website somewhere (or
are they already?)

meanwhile, if anyone wants to get a rough idea of the
height/scale of what's involved, they can take a walk over
to the 3900 block of walnut street, where the radian is
being built. it's currently 12 stories tall now (counting
the mezzanine as 2 stories) and it butts right up against a
3-story victorian twin (which sits up about 1/2 a story
above street-level). so, if you stand on the NE corner of
40th and walnut and look east, you'll get some idea of what
an 11-story hotel and a 3 story mansion look like, side by
side, and how high up in the sky 11 stories is as you walk away.

I don't see how anyone looking at that will then say that's
appropriate for 40th and pine, but go see for yourself.




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Re: [UC] the video knows

2007-11-15 Thread anm

As I noted in passing just after the Architectural Review Committee meeting, I
was prevented from making either a video or audio recording of the proceedings.
 The chairman of the committee had someone check with his legal department in
issuing the denial, and I wasn't prepared to push it at that point.  My sense
was that they may never have faced such a request before, but for public
proceedings like that, it seems like a constitutionally indefensible policy. 
Anyone on the list have any intuitions about where pressure to change or
clarify the rules would best be applied?  You can take it off-list, and I'll
summarize if you prefer.

Andrew

Quoting UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Anthony West wrote:
  the architect from Atkin Olshin Schade had a slide of exactly what the new
  skyline would look like, from Baltimore Ave. You can contact Lussenhop
  and ask if you can see it.



 let's see ALL the slides, while we're at it! they could be
 posted on a (free) publicly-accessible website somewhere (or
 are they already?)

 meanwhile, if anyone wants to get a rough idea of the
 height/scale of what's involved, they can take a walk over
 to the 3900 block of walnut street, where the radian is
 being built. it's currently 12 stories tall now (counting
 the mezzanine as 2 stories) and it butts right up against a
 3-story victorian twin (which sits up about 1/2 a story
 above street-level). so, if you stand on the NE corner of
 40th and walnut and look east, you'll get some idea of what
 an 11-story hotel and a 3 story mansion look like, side by
 side, and how high up in the sky 11 stories is as you walk away.

 I don't see how anyone looking at that will then say that's
 appropriate for 40th and pine, but go see for yourself.




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