Anyone on the list have any intuitions about where pressure to change or
clarify the rules would best be applied?

Andrew,

I completely agree with you! PHC does not make transcripts only a synopsis. And I am still waiting for Mr. Farnham to call back to schedule a time for me and a reporter to listen to those tapes.

This policy is outrageous. I have been coming to the conclusion that the courts need to be involved as government turns more of the power over to the corporate consortium. I'm thinking a phone call to ACLU is the place. Babbette Josephs is on the Board and I would be happy to connect you off-line to her office. She just placed a letter in the UC Review about the efforts to deal with information at the state level.

At the full commission Nov 9, Farnham interrupted the proceedings to announce that the public could have discovered the changes to the Penn plan by coming to his office and asking. Some folks chuckled and Sklaroff said, "how would the public know." I made two trips on Tuesday to get what they call transcripts and finally got my hands on the pathetic synopsis for Oct. 23. Except for those tapes which seem to be unavailable without a fight, they intend that synopsis to be the public record! I hope the tape hasn't been shredded!

This is about freedom of information and there is no way this could be legal. And something is seriously wrong if the public, you, can't do this job that should be done by the commission staff. My gosh, what if a historic designation had been imposed here to kick poor and lower middle class people out of the neighborhood?

Thanks for standing up,
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "University City List" <UnivCity@list.purple.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [UC] the video knows



As I noted in passing just after the Architectural Review Committee meeting, I was prevented from making either a video or audio recording of the proceedings. The chairman of the committee had someone check with his legal department in issuing the denial, and I wasn't prepared to push it at that point. My sense
was that they may never have faced such a request before, but for public
proceedings like that, it seems like a constitutionally indefensible policy.
Anyone on the list have any intuitions about where pressure to change or
clarify the rules would best be applied? You can take it off-list, and I'll
summarize if you prefer.

Andrew

Quoting UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Anthony West wrote:
> the architect from Atkin Olshin Schade had a slide of exactly what the > new
> skyline would look like, from Baltimore Ave. You can contact Lussenhop
> and ask if you can see it.



let's see ALL the slides, while we're at it! they could be
posted on a (free) publicly-accessible website somewhere (or
are they already?)

meanwhile, if anyone wants to get a rough idea of the
height/scale of what's involved, they can take a walk over
to the 3900 block of walnut street, where the radian is
being built. it's currently 12 stories tall now (counting
the mezzanine as 2 stories) and it butts right up against a
3-story victorian twin (which sits up about 1/2 a story
above street-level). so, if you stand on the NE corner of
40th and walnut and look east, you'll get some idea of what
an 11-story hotel and a 3 story mansion look like, side by
side, and how high up in the sky 11 stories is as you walk away.

I don't see how anyone looking at that will then say that's
appropriate for 40th and pine, but go see for yourself.




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