Re: [UC] Bob Brady Supported by Bored Carpenters - Political Ads OK?

[Craigsolve]

 
In a message dated 5/2/2007 2:29:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

If we are permitting Political "advertisements" this week, I'll counter  with 
... Tom Knox, who should be working on saving his soul, not the city. His  
"success" in business, stands squarely on the bent backs of those, so  
destitute, that they would pay any interest, no matter how usurious, for "Pay  
Day" 
loans or buy overpriced, under serving insurance policies, just  to have some 
insurance.  He has also used his money in ways that  seemed an awful lot like 
bribes.



When I read the first post by Sali, who I usually enjoy reading  and with 
some regularity agree, I thought someone must have stolen his log  on 
privileges 
to post such total BS and stoop to such a lame advertisement for a  totally 
undistinguished professional politician, who has spent most of his adult  life 
on the public dole along with a good portion of his family.
 
When I saw Liz, my friend and peer's anti- Knox attack ad on the list,  I 
wasn't sure if this was the ugly head of socialism popping through the putrid  
flotsam of our local Democrat Party or the outlandish affect of the Moon  
entering transformative Scorpio at 6:41 am EDT, revealing intense emotional  
dramas 
on the way to tomorrow's Full Moon.
 
If we are going after scum-bag payday lenders, where was the outcry over  
Rendell's failure to say it wont happen in Pennsylvania? Where is the  
anti-Sharif Street outcry for this former liberal activist's legal work as  a 
promoter 
of the Pay Day Loan industry along with his law firm Wolf Block  
<_www.wolfblock.com_ (http://www.wolfblock.com) >?
 
And, if Liz really believes Knox's success is exclusively due to raping the  
poor, perhaps she is eating from the hand of Bob Brady. Oh, Knox's wife is a  
real estate developer raping the main line wealthy, who as we all know are  
terribly stupid.
 
If you guys really want to do political ads ... expect to take a  poking.
 
Notice the newly married (best wishes for your  happiness) Republican leader 
of the WolfePAC is keeping a low profile?  Probably more to do with practicing 
Sun Tzu's Art of War than the fact the  guy he's running for mayor is an 
unused leftover from our recent  funeral home body parts scandal?
 
While this is an amusing election for a political junky, it  is nonetheless a 
powerful statement to the pathetic lack of leadership in  Philly. Imagine the 
circus that would be occurring, if Vince of Darkness  Fumo wasn't being 
shaded by agents of the DOJ.
 
Is it any wonder voices like that below are heard from campus as local  
university grads vote with their feet and leave Philly, election cycle after  
election cycle:
 
let's just give up
 

posted 04/03/07 @ 5:28 PM  EST
 
Philadelphia sucks. When I  graduate, I'm taking my Ivy League degree and 
trust fund somewhere that doesn't  look like a third world country. We should 
all 
just give up on Philly, and build  a giant 200 foot tall concrete wall around 
the city. 
_http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/home/index.cfm?event=displayArticleComments&ustory_id=923ab7f8-bda1-47ee-8913-98d949430547_
 
(http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/home/index.cfm?event=displayArticleComments&ustory_id=923ab7f8
-bda1-47ee-8913-98d949430547) 
 
Like most of you, I love this city. We can and must  do better.
 
Ciao,
 
Craig 




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Re: [UC] Bob Brady Supported by Bored Carpenters - Political Ads OK?

[UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is it any wonder voices like that below are heard from
campus as local university grads vote with their feet and
leave Philly, election cycle after election cycle:

*let's just give up*   posted 04/03/07 @ 5:28 PM EST

Philadelphia sucks. When I graduate, I'm taking my Ivy
League degree and trust fund somewhere that doesn't look
like a third world country. We should all just give up on
Philly, and build a giant 200 foot tall concrete wall
around the city. http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/




and is it any wonder that penn, having the problems, also 
has the solutions?


http://www.upenn.edu/pennnews/current/features/042607-1.html



Looking for answers By Judy Hill

Already this year, more than 100 people have been killed
on the streets of Philadelphia, outpacing last year’s
grim toll and bringing the city national attention as a
hotbed of urban violence. Eighty percent of these murders
were carried out with handguns, and many of the shooters,
as well as the victims, have criminal records.

As the city's mayoral race heats up, all five candidates
are proposing measures to curb the gun violence, from
Michael Nutter's "stop, question and frisk" approach to
Chaka Fattah's "carrot and a stick" tactic. We turned to
some of Penn's own violence and urban environment experts
to find out why this epidemic is happening and what can
be done to stop it.

Susan Sorenson Professor of social policy

The problem: "Beware of the politician--or professor, or
community advocate--who claims to have the answer for
Philadelphia. If there were one or two causes of
violence, we likely would have figured that out a long
time ago, but it's not that simple. Many smart people
have tried, with little success, to identify what drives
fluctuations in violence."

The solution: "In addition to short-term fixes focusing
on law enforcement intervention, Philadelphia needs to
create more opportunities for meaningful work,
dramatically improve the public schools and focus on
adults who are making handguns available to adolescents
and others who are prohibited from having them. To build
healthy and safe neighborhoods, Philadelphia leaders need
to be able to bring communities together--they need to be
able to articulate a positive vision of life in the city
that can unite Philadelphia."

Lawrence Sherman Director, Jerry Lee Center of
Criminology and professor of criminology and sociology

The problem: "No one knows why homicide rates rise and
fall in short time frames. But homicide has been rising
steadily for 5 years in Philadelphia, with ever more guns
seized by police every year."

The solution: "What we are doing about it at Penn
Criminology is to hire new faculty who have been helping
to forecast which convicted offenders on probation will
kill or be killed. We are also using these analyses to
help the probation department set priorities among its
52,000 offenders, and to test a new prevention program
stressing better psychological services and
rehabilitation for those probationers most at-risk. We
will know in another year or so how the test turns out.
Meanwhile I have proposed to the city and the U.S.
Congress that they increase funding for probation
officers, so the caseload of 185 offenders per probation
officer can be substantially reduced."

Amy Hillier Assistant professor, city and regional
planning

The solution: "Environment is part of the answer–-not the
whole answer, but part of the answer. Young people in
Philadelphia are growing up in neighborhoods saturated
with messages that say they don't matter. Every day, they
are exposed to inadequate schools, run-down housing,
trash-strewn lots, alcohol billboards and poor quality
food. They look around them and perceive that society
doesn't care about them or expect much from them.

We need to offer these young people real alternatives to
life on the street. We need to give them access to the
best schools and to jobs that will allow them to earn
enough money to support a family some day. And we need to
saturate them with messages that their lives are
precious. Would we expect anything less for our own
children or our Penn students?"

Charles Baras Assistant professor of epidemiology and
lead epidemiologist in Penn's Firearm and Injury Center

The problem: "It's always difficult to pinpoint specific
factors that carry the lion's share of the blame for gun
violence in Philadelphia, but a few generally seem to
rise to the top. Illegal drugs likely relate to violence
brought about by trafficking and, to some degree, actual
usage of illegal drugs. Trafficking of "Philly heroin," a
very potent brand of heroin that is also an unfortunate
source of pride for some in the city, has seen a recent
resurgence and may be part of the trend in gun violence.
Alcohol is also possibly related and some think that
"stop-and-go" outlets where alcohol is purchased but
consumed illegally off premises are also likely
important."

The solution: "A great many efforts are now underway

Re: [UC] Bob Brady Supported by Bored Carpenters - Political Ads OK?

[Wilma de Soto]

Business is Business.  That¹s how businesses make money.

Tom Knox is not the first person nor the last person to bleed Inner-City
People of Color.

Supermarkets, (most notably ACME Markets amongst others), Banks, Stores,
Libraries, Restaurants, Schools, etc.

That doesn¹t mean Knox is necessarily the worst person to be elected Mayor
of Philadelphia.

I am sure Bob Brady has done worse with regard to people of color.  It was
stated last week in the Philadelphia Inquirer that when Brady visited the
Northeast, he was asked if he would get the N---s off Frankford Ave.

I give him credit to let those comments be printed in his Mayoral Profile.

Still, I do not like his ads A.K.A.  ³Tony Soprano².

At least ³it¹s not over Œtil it¹s over.² and many times has THAT happened in
Philadelphia?


On 5/2/07 3:21 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In a message dated 5/2/2007 2:29:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>  
>> If we are permitting Political "advertisements" this week, I'll counter  with
>> ... Tom Knox, who should be working on saving his soul, not the city. His
>> "success" in business, stands squarely on the bent backs of those, so
>> destitute, that they would pay any interest, no matter how usurious, for "Pay
>> Day" loans or buy overpriced, under serving insurance policies, just  to have
>> some insurance.  He has also used his money in ways that  seemed an awful lot
>> like bribes.
> When I read the first post by Sali, who I usually enjoy reading and with some
> regularity agree, I thought someone must have stolen his log on privileges to
> post such total BS and stoop to such a lame advertisement for a totally
> undistinguished professional politician, who has spent most of his adult life
> on the public dole along with a good portion of his family.
>  
> When I saw Liz, my friend and peer's anti- Knox attack ad on the list, I
> wasn't sure if this was the ugly head of socialism popping through the putrid
> flotsam of our local Democrat Party or the outlandish affect of the Moon
> entering transformative Scorpio at 6:41 am EDT, revealing intense emotional
> dramas on the way to tomorrow's Full Moon.
>  
> If we are going after scum-bag payday lenders, where was the outcry over
> Rendell's failure to say it wont happen in Pennsylvania? Where is the
> anti-Sharif Street outcry for this former liberal activist's legal work as a
> promoter of the Pay Day Loan industry along with his law firm Wolf Block
> http://www.wolfblock.com> >?
>  
> And, if Liz really believes Knox's success is exclusively due to raping the
> poor, perhaps she is eating from the hand of Bob Brady. Oh, Knox's wife is a
> real estate developer raping the main line wealthy, who as we all know are
> terribly stupid.
>  
> If you guys really want to do political ads ... expect to take a poking.
>  
> Notice the newly married (best wishes for your happiness) Republican leader of
> the WolfePAC is keeping a low profile? Probably more to do with practicing Sun
> Tzu's Art of War than the fact the guy he's running for mayor is an unused
> leftover from our recent funeral home body parts scandal?
>  
> While this is an amusing election for a political junky, it is nonetheless a
> powerful statement to the pathetic lack of leadership in Philly. Imagine the
> circus that would be occurring, if Vince of Darkness Fumo wasn't being shaded
> by agents of the DOJ.
>  
> Is it any wonder voices like that below are heard from campus as local
> university grads vote with their feet and leave Philly, election cycle after
> election cycle:
>  
> let's just give up
>  
> posted 04/03/07 @ 5:28 PM EST
>  
> Philadelphia sucks. When I graduate, I'm taking my Ivy League degree and trust
> fund somewhere that doesn't look like a third world country. We should all
> just give up on Philly, and build a giant 200 foot tall concrete wall around
> the city. 
> http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/home/index.cfm?event=displayArticleComments&;
> ustory_id=923ab7f8-bda1-47ee-8913-98d949430547
>  &ustory_id=923ab7f8-bda1-47ee-8913-98d949430547>
>  
> Like most of you, I love this city. We can and must do better.
>  
> Ciao,
>  
> Craig 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> See what's free at AOL.com  .
> 

Re: [UC] Bob Brady Supported by Bored Carpenters - Political Ads OK?

[Glenn]

Thanks for this link.  I wish the Penn intellectual community would be 
called on more often to shape Penn's institutional policies.   Like the U.S. 
in the world, Penn could be a powerful partner towards a bright future for a 
united and healthy Philadelphia.


Amy Hillier says "...They look around them and perceive that society

doesn't care about them or expect much from them.


And Susan Sorenson says, ",,, To build

healthy and safe neighborhoods, Philadelphia leaders need
to be able to bring communities together--they need to be
able to articulate a positive vision of life in the city
that can unite Philadelphia."


How would these researchers advise the university about their UCD policy? 
When you look at all these suggestions, they articulate the diametric 
opposite of Penn's own policies.  There is nothing about upscale lights, 
upscale micro-brews, or miracles in University City in these messages.


UCD deliberately uses and creates divisiveness in its effort to separate our 
neighborhood from the city of Philadelphia.  As common folks are pushed out 
of the neighborhood and denied a voice, and as great public parks like Clark 
park are converted to "fee required parks" to get the whores and gangs out 
of the way of hords of subarbanites, I understand exactly what Amy Hillier 
is suggesting.  How would the UCD executive staff or Penn students like to 
be called and treated like worthless prostitutes and gang members?


Physical example: The department of recreation swimming pool on the 
worthless side of Woodland Ave was paved over and turned into a sprayground. 
Meanwhile on the side of Woodland Ave where the good people live, Clark park 
is about to be paved with gold as UCD leverages its power to use up 
Philadelphia taxpayer recreation funds  Those animals from the worthless 
side of Woodland Ave probably do have a sense that the good folks don't care 
about them.


But Penn chooses the same path with the universities heralded "community 
engagement"  The trustees consistently avoid the potential benefit that the 
Universities intellectual community could offer and instead use a corporate, 
neo-colonial model of occupation employing "spin" and civic association 
warlords.  There are a lot of the real experts at Penn who could actually 
engage the community and know how to do this appropriately.  The trustees 
ignore them and we're stuck with UCD.


Penn, please listen to your own experts.

Glenn



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From: "UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "University City List" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [UC] Bob Brady Supported by Bored Carpenters - Political Ads 
OK?




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is it any wonder voices like that below are heard from
campus as local university grads vote with their feet and
leave Philly, election cycle after election cycle:

*let's just give up*   posted 04/03/07 @ 5:28 PM EST

Philadelphia sucks. When I graduate, I'm taking my Ivy
League degree and trust fund somewhere that doesn't look
like a third world country. We should all just give up on
Philly, and build a giant 200 foot tall concrete wall
around the city. http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/




and is it any wonder that penn, having the problems, also has the 
solutions?


http://www.upenn.edu/pennnews/current/features/042607-1.html



Looking for answers By Judy Hill

Already this year, more than 100 people have been killed
on the streets of Philadelphia, outpacing last year’s
grim toll and bringing the city national attention as a
hotbed of urban violence. Eighty percent of these murders
were carried out with handguns, and many of the shooters,
as well as the victims, have criminal records.

As the city's mayoral race heats up, all five candidates
are proposing measures to curb the gun violence, from
Michael Nutter's "stop, question and frisk" approach to
Chaka Fattah's "carrot and a stick" tactic. We turned to
some of Penn's own violence and urban environment experts
to find out why this epidemic is happening and what can
be done to stop it.

Susan Sorenson Professor of social policy

The problem: "Beware of the politician--or professor, or
community advocate--who claims to have the answer for
Philadelphia. If there were one or two causes of
violence, we likely would have figured that out a long
time ago, but it's not that simple. Many smart people
have tried, with little success, to identify what drives
fluctuations in violence."

The solution: "In addition to short-term fixes focusing
on law enforcement intervention, Philadelphia needs to
create more opportunities for meaningful work,
dramatically improve the public schools and focus on
adults who are making handguns available to adolescents
and others who are prohibited from having them. To build
healthy and safe neighborhood