Re: [UC] How developers work (Was: Re: What you mean 'public', community man?)

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Anthony West wrote:
I have to say, from the little I've seen so far, that while community 
concern and angst and suspicion are perfectly normal, healthy and 
legitimate -- Lussenhop isn't doing anything abnormal or substandard as 
he goes about the process of seeking his project.



is it normal and standard procedure for a developer to 
attempt to de-list an historic mansion without the public 
knowing about it from either the developer or the local 
historical society until the news is revealed 4 months later 
in the local newspaper?


is it normal and standard procedure for developers of 
11-story hilton hotels to contact individual neighbors by 
email and invite them for coffee as 'your friendly 
neighborhood developer' to discuss his proposal?


is it normal and standard procedure for developers to claim 
by email to have met with the local historical society while 
members of the society claim to have had no knowledge about 
his project until they read about it months later in the paper?


is it normal and standard procedure for a neighborhood 
association's zoning committee to know about the developer's 
plans in the summer and to then keep silent about it until a 
28-minute slide show in november, given to random members 
who happen to show up for an annual elections meeting where 
the proposal is not on the agenda and the meeting itself is 
declared by that association's president as 'not public'?


is it normal and standard procedure for penn praxis to 
announce that a developer is to present a proposal on a 
friday at 8 am, and then for the developer to inexplicably 
not show up?


is it normal and standard procedure for a developer to have 
only a few minutes to present his proposal at an 8 am meeting?


is it normal and standard procedure for developers to 
testify to architecture committees and historic commissions 
that open public forums have taken place, when they haven't?


is it normal and standard procedure for developers to tell 
local newspapers that neighbors have been listened to, when 
they haven't?


is it normal and standard procedure for a historic 
commission to consider a revised proposal for an 11-story 
hotel which hasn't been reviewed by its architecture committee?


what other parts of the city are former employees of a 
university working as a developer with campus apartments 
inc, proposing 11-story hilton hotels in residential 
neighborhoods?




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Re: [UC] How developers work (Was: Re: What you mean 'public', community man?)

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In a message dated 11/21/2007 10:56:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, :

Anthony  West wrote:
Lussenhop isn't doing anything abnormal or substandard as  
> he goes about the process of seeking his project.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] responded

(is it normal .  )^n

Many developers do things like this as their normal modus  operandi because 
they know they'll be strongly opposed by the affected  parties, and it's the 
only way they can ram their projects through.
 
But, to paraphrase JFK (thinking of him because tomorrow's the anniversary  
of his assassination)...
In University City, we owe ourselves a better  community than that
 
 
Always at  your service & ready for a dialog,
Al Krigman (I voted for him, by the  way)



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Re: [UC] How developers work (Was: Re: What you mean 'public', community man?)

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Al Krigman wrote
Many developers do things like this as their normal modus  operandi because 
they know they'll be strongly opposed by the affected  parties, and it's the 
only way they can ram their projects through.



I see.  as *their* normal modus operandi.




But, to paraphrase JFK (thinking of him because tomorrow's the anniversary  
of his assassination)...

In University City, we owe ourselves a better  community than that



and as laurence peter (the "peter principle" guy) famously 
said, "bureaucracy defends the status quo long past the time 
when the quo has lost its status."





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