Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] ssh/sharing via window manager?

2010-08-15 Thread Mnyb

snarlydwarf;569448 Wrote: 
> man sftp-server on, say Ubuntu...
> 
> sftp is invoked by sshd, but is not part of sshd or the ssh protocol
> itself, but is tunneled by ssh.
> 
> you need sftp-server, which neither touch nor controller support (as i
> recall they don't use openssh at all, but dropbear -- which doesn't
> include sftp-server).

Thanks , I've read about dropbear somewhere I' was curius it's seems to
replace many standard linux things, but does it faster with less cpu.
But with some things stripped out or simplified.

Seems like a good thing for embedded small cpu and memory starved
things like the Touch .

My router also has dropbear


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] ssh/sharing via window manager?

2010-08-15 Thread snarlydwarf

Mnyb;569446 Wrote: 
> I also believed that, I can do that with own server. But when i do the
> exact same thing with either controller radio or Touch it does not work
> from ubuntu ?
> 
> I'm always getting "ssh program unexpectedly exited"

man sftp-server on, say Ubuntu...

sftp is invoked by sshd, but is not part of sshd or the ssh protocol
itself, but is tunneled by ssh.

you need sftp-server, which neither touch nor controller support (as i
recall they don't use openssh at all, but dropbear -- which doesn't
include sftp-server).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] ssh/sharing via window manager?

2010-08-15 Thread Mnyb

Mark Miksis;569415 Wrote: 
> What do you mean?  I always thought that sftp was just a UI abstraction
> on the client side.  If the server supports ssh, then an sftp client
> can connect to it.

I also believed that, I can do that with own server. But when i do the
exact same thing with either controller radio or Touch it does not work
from ubuntu ?

I'm always getting "ssh program unexpectedly exited"


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] ssh/sharing via window manager?

2010-08-15 Thread Mark Miksis

Mnyb;569252 Wrote: 
> Thats said I don think Touch or Radio or controller supports sftp at all
> .
> 
> Edit: meaning no graphical file browsing only comand line shell, if you
> want to copy files from the Touch to you pc you have to use the scp
> command.

What do you mean?  I always thought that sftp was just a UI abstraction
on the client side.  If the server supports ssh, then an sftp client can
connect to it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] ssh/sharing via window manager?

2010-08-15 Thread Phil168

Yes samba works perfectly: after hunting around for instructions (and
the ones I found giving trouble), I just tried replacing ssh:// by
smb:// and it works fine:

open a folder, type control-l to see the location, then enter

smb://[SB's ip number]

and it works fine: I see the USB drive (plugged into the touch) in the
folder window. [Presumably this only works on more recent versions of
ubuntu---it must also be well-known?]


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] ssh/sharing via window manager?

2010-08-15 Thread Mnyb

Phil168;569264 Wrote: 
> Thanks. Yes the main aim was to ease access the USB drive plugged in the
> touch---the lack of sftp support seems to be the problem. I will
> investigate samba, but for now I just remembered the "scp -r" option to
> recursivley copy whole directories much more easily using scp.

But then it's suposed to work with samba , you can turn on sharing
somewhere in the menu, I don't have any USB drive myself and i'm not
running the server on my touch, so I have not turned on sharing.

But other users have sucessfully used samba.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] ssh/sharing via window manager?

2010-08-15 Thread Phil168

Thanks. Yes the main aim was to ease access the USB drive plugged in the
touch---the lack of sftp support seems to be the problem. I will
investigate samba, but for now I just remembered the "scp -r" option to
recursivley copy whole directories much more easily using scp.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] ssh/sharing via window manager?

2010-08-15 Thread Mnyb

That would be sftp://r...@x.x.x.x/

And usually do this by choosing

Places > connect to server in ubuntu

type ssh user etc etc as required.

Thats said I don think Touch or Radio or controller supports sftp at
all .

samba could be used for the shared drive (usually your USB
drive/stick).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Squeezebox server can't see music folder

2010-08-15 Thread fkjensen

Yeah, it was the permission thing.
However, now I got the "no music library configured" problem, but I'll
start a new thread for that.


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[SlimDevices: Unix] ssh/sharing via window manager?

2010-08-15 Thread Phil168

Does any one know how to access the touch via the nautilus window
manager on ubuntu?

I can ssh to my squeezebox touch via the command line using the
command:

ssh r...@[sb's ip number]

and typing in the password, but it would be much more convenient to
have access via nautilus (the window manager). My understanding is that
this is done by opening any folder (I'm using ubuntu) and typing 

ssh://r...@[sb's ip number] 

into the location bar (which appears with ctr-l). But then I get: could
not display sftp://r...@[ip number] 
and "ssh has unexpectedly quit". (If instead I try ssh://[SB's ip
number]  then I am requested to enter username and pasword, but it
still doesn't work.)

When I enable sharing on the touch (as opposed to enable SSH) I am told
the user name is Squeezebox, rather than root, with the same initial
password 1234. If I try the same with this password, I am repeatedly
asked for the password, and then get access denied. Is this the correct
initial password?  

Is there an alternative way to do this (e.g with samba?)


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