Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Squeezelite with USB DAC plays max at 48k
If you haven't tried turning off mmap (see earlier post) then it is worth having a go. In the old days I think it had to be off for RPi4. Long ago I posted a link to a 3rd party blog that said that mmap support had been added to Raspbian ALSA back in 2013 but maybe it hasn't in current pCP. Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115518 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer 7 on Audiophonics EVO-SABRE Balanced DAC 2xES9038Q2M
I don't think I purchased the RPIs from Audiophonics. PcP 8 says RPI 4B Revision c03112 PCB Rev 1.2 Memory: 4096 pmendiuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114706 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Squeezelite with USB DAC plays max at 48k
hafnpin wrote: > > @all > > Thank you everyone for the help. I'm about to give up on this DAC and > maybe buy one with better resolution via USB. Any suggestions? I've seen > a lot of people using Toppings DACs I would first give the new Bullseye raspberry PI OS Lite a try https://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspios_lite_armhf/images/raspios_lite_armhf-2021-11-08/2021-10-30-raspios-bullseye-armhf-lite.zip If you use the raspberry pi Imager tool you can preconfigure wireless and ssh connection. It also has a more recent squeezelite version which can be easily updated. It also does not use PulseAudio, just update and full-upgrade then install squeezelite with apt Just leave all settings (apart from the output) at default. For a dac, one I really like is this one https://www.khadas.com/tone1 Generic Edition: 40-pin GPIO is absent. Only able to connect via USB-C to USB-A 2.0 Cablewhiteto desktop PCs, laptops, Raspberry Pis, and other 3rd party SBCs. But it also depends on your usage case and preferences. hope you have better luck ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115518 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Squeezelite with USB DAC plays max at 48k
hafnpin wrote: > Yeah it's a headless server, no desktop installed. I installed SL the > same way you described in my user account with "sudo install > squeezelite" if you run "ps aux | grep squeeze" you should see it > running as root. > > Trying "hw:CARD=PT100,DEV=0" gives me the same issue. Unable to use the > DAC at DEV0. I can only seem to use it at DEV1 which is limited to > 44.1k-48k. > Have you checked whether the card has additional controls - maybe accessible via alscactl ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115518 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Squeezelite with USB DAC plays max at 48k
@ronnie Yeah it's a headless server, no desktop installed. I installed SL the same way you described in my user account with "sudo install squeezelite" if you run "ps aux | grep squeeze" you should see it running as root. Trying "hw:CARD=PT100,DEV=0" gives me the same issue. Unable to use the DAC at DEV0. I can only seem to use it at DEV1 which is limited to 44.1k-48k. @Paul There is plenty of space. SL just can't seem to use the DAC at HW:1,0. @all Thank you everyone for the help. I'm about to give up on this DAC and maybe buy one with better resolution via USB. Any suggestions? I've seen a lot of people using Toppings DACs hafnpin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72096 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115518 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Squeezelite with USB DAC plays max at 48k
Paul Webster wrote: > Have you checked that this message is not important? > > Code: > > > [19:44:09.074788] alsa_open:530 unable to set hw params: No space left on device > > > > > Has the filesystem run out of free space? The preceding Errno -28 is the same error "out of space" Squeezelite 1.9.8-1317 is about 1 year old. You could update to newer version justin case there is some odd bug. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115518 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer 7 on Audiophonics EVO-SABRE Balanced DAC 2xES9038Q2M
pmendiuk wrote: > It's installed: > > > Code: > > tc@pCP:~$ tce-load -i /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/optional/evosabre-py38-deps.tcz > evosabre-py38-deps is already installed! > > > > I started with a fresh PcP 8 install and then installed the extensions > and python script. The RPI was rebooted several times since setting > up PcP and the extensions. Yes, if it says it's installed, then it's rebooted. OK, so 2 plans. Firstly, maybe something's up with the .tcz I sent you. Maybe it's loading but it's not right. So, I'll email you just the .tcz. If that doesn't work, I'll build a new pcp8 again, and just post an image of the SD for you to download. That will only work on the same generation of Pi though - what model are you using - I assume you're just using the supplied Pi4? I don't really understand why it's not working - as I said, I just did a new PCP 8.0.0 yesterday, installed the .tcz and the .py, and it just worked first time. psketch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56555 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114706 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Squeezelite with USB DAC plays max at 48k
Have you checked that this message is not important? Code: [19:44:09.074788] alsa_open:530 unable to set hw params: No space left on device Has the filesystem run out of free space? Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115518 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Squeezelite with USB DAC plays max at 48k
@ HAFNPIN I played with Ubuntu for raspberry pi earlier in the year, are you running headless? It does not have a great deal of support. I thought PulseAudio is a default install in Ubuntu and in Raspberry Pi OS since Dec 2020 I also never install Squeezelite (or LMS, for that matter) directly as root. I use ronnie as user and preface the commandline with sudo. I'm not sure, but I think there is a subtle difference (?) :confused: I also tend to leave SB_EXTRA_ARGS= mostly blank, for stuff like -C or sometimes to change the mmap -a :::1 or :::0 I would try hw:CARD=PT100,DEV=0 atb ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115518 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Squeezelite with USB DAC plays max at 48k
@bpa This device isn't used by anything else. I verified that by running "sudo lsof /dev/snd/*" before starting squeezelite and nothing shows. Running that command after starting squeezelite I see squeezelite using audio. I tried using sysdefault and get a log message that says "output_init_common:394 unable to open output device: sysdefault". I'm running squeezelite as root and even added root to the audio group to no avail. I switched away from Raspbian to Ubuntu server since Pulseaudio isn't installed in Ubuntu server by default. The version is: Code: Linux ubuntu 5.13.0-1011-raspi #13-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Fri Nov 19 18:41:59 UTC 2021 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux @ronnie I put "-a 180" back into my SB_EXTRA_ARGS. I'm running Squeezelite v1.9.8-1317. Installed it with "apt install squeezelite" hafnpin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72096 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115518 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer 7 on Audiophonics EVO-SABRE Balanced DAC 2xES9038Q2M
It's installed: Code: tc@pCP:~$ tce-load -i /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/optional/evosabre-py38-deps.tcz evosabre-py38-deps is already installed! I started with a fresh PcP 8 install and then installed the extensions and python script. pmendiuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114706 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Squeezelite with USB DAC plays max at 48k
@hafnpin I found this for your dac > Digital Inputs: > > 1 digital coax (S/PDIF); 24/192k > 1 digital optical (Toslink); 24/192k > 1 digital USB (DAC input); 24/96k; no drivers required so usb is limited anyway I also found this https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/alsa-snd_pcm_hw_params-failure-invalid-argument-805660/#post3958054 which would suggest you leave Code: SB_EXTRA_ARGS="-a 180" at a default setting, ie blank, or at least at -a 80 (I would try blank first) As bpa has remarked, which Raspberry pi OS and Squeezelite version are you using ? ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115518 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Squeezelite with USB DAC plays max at 48k
hafnpin wrote: > So I'm still stuck but maybe the error "ALSA snd_pcm_hw_hw_params:386 > SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_HW_PARAMS failed (-28)" will resonate with someone here? plughw - uses software to provide greater capabilities. The raw capabiltiies of your DAC as seen by ALSA is show by alsa-capabilities with a "hw:" notation. Is this audio device already in use by an application such as a browser ? sysdefault is the DAC you want to use. Ideally you should move sysdefault away from your dac. I'm not sure about permissions/groups etc in raspbian - has the user which is running squeezelite got permission to access the alsa device. Is there an audoi group the user shpoudl be a member of ? What version of raspbian ? IIRC Newer version has Pulseaudio installed by default ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115518 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] picoreplayer 3.11 +waveshare 3.5 TFT + jivelite + Raspberry Pi 2B+
@ chicks, thank you very much for your quick response I think it is not applicable. I am not programming, I just want to use jivelite. @ ralphy I'm going to have a look at that module. It's looks like a calibration problem. maybe the whole touchscreen system is broken, these aliexpress ones are like that. thanks vwpolo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71731 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107366 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Squeezelite with USB DAC plays max at 48k
After reviewing the output bpa requested I changed /etc/default/squeezelite to: Code: # Defaults for squeezelite initscript # sourced by /etc/init.d/squeezelite # installed at /etc/default/squeezelite by the maintainer scripts # The name for the squeezelite player: SL_NAME="$(hostname -s)" # ALSA output device: SL_SOUNDCARD="plughw:CARD=PT100,DEV=0" # Squeezebox server (Logitech Media Server): # Uncomment the next line if you want to point squeezelite at the IP address of # your squeezebox server. This is usually unnecessary as the server is # automatically discovered. #SB_SERVER_IP="192.168.x.y" # Additional options to pass to squeezelite: # Please do not include -z to make squeezelite daemonise itself. SB_EXTRA_ARGS="-d all=debug -f /home/ubuntu/logfile.txt" So that squeezelite would use plughw:CARD=PT100,DEV=0 since that showed more capabilities than plughw:CARD=PT100,DEV=1. No sound works when using plughw:CARD=PT100,DEV=0 though and nothing appears on the DAC screen. Looking at the debug file I see: Code: [19:44:08.696429] stream_init:448 init stream [19:44:08.696601] stream_init:449 streambuf size: 2097152 [19:44:08.707691] output_init_alsa:940 init output [19:44:08.707789] output_init_alsa:979 requested alsa_buffer: 40 alsa_period: 4 format: any mmap: 1 [19:44:08.707846] output_init_common:353 outputbuf size: 3528000 [19:44:08.708034] output_init_common:377 idle timeout: 0 [19:44:08.712535] output_init_common:425 supported rates: 768000 705600 384000 352800 192000 176400 96000 88200 48000 44100 32000 24000 22500 16000 12000 11025 8000 [19:44:09.061822] output_init_alsa:1006 memory locked [19:44:09.061944] output_init_alsa:1012 glibc detected using mallopt [19:44:09.062636] output_init_alsa:1032 set output sched fifo rt: 45 [19:44:09.062647] output_thread:687 open output device: plughw:CARD=PT100,DEV=0 [19:44:09.062680] decode_init:153 init decode [19:44:09.063853] alsa_open:351 opening device at: 44100 [19:44:09.063910] register_dsd:908 using dsd to decode dsf,dff [19:44:09.063974] register_ff:797 using ffmpeg to decode alc [19:44:09.064002] register_ff:781 using ffmpeg to decode wma,wmap [19:44:09.064028] register_faad:663 using faad to decode aac [19:44:09.064054] register_vorbis:380 using vorbis to decode ogg [19:44:09.064079] register_flac:332 using flac to decode ogf,flc [19:44:09.064106] register_pcm:483 using pcm to decode aif,pcm [19:44:09.064139] register_mad:423 using mad to decode mp3 [19:44:09.064164] decode_init:194 include codecs: exclude codecs: [19:44:09.065199] discover_server:794 sending discovery [19:44:09.065636] alsa_open:422 opened device plughw:CARD=PT100,DEV=0 using format: S32_LE sample rate: 44100 mmap: 1 [19:44:09.065963] alsa_open:513 buffer: 40 period: 4 -> buffer size: 1764 period size: 441 [19:44:09.066153] discover_server:805 got response from: 192.168.x.y:3483 [19:44:09.074723] ALSA snd_pcm_hw_hw_params:386 SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_HW_PARAMS failed (-28) [19:44:09.074788] alsa_open:530 unable to set hw params: No space left on device So I'm still stuck but maybe the error "ALSA snd_pcm_hw_hw_params:386 SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_HW_PARAMS failed (-28)" will resonate with someone here? hafnpin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72096 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115518 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
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When I put ALSA volume control = Card 1 Or even Card 0 I have BT sound output but Squeezelite don't want to turn on even with a reboot. I don't understand what is wrong in my parameters. reptilo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71648 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114834 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Squeezelite with USB DAC plays max at 48k
Here is the output of alsa-capabilities Code: ubuntu@ubuntu:~/mpd-configure$ ./alsa-capabilities 1) Analog alsa audio output interface `hw:0,0' - device name = Headphones - interface name= bcm2835 Headphones - usb audio class = (n/a) - character device = /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p - encoding formats = U8, S16_LE - monitor file = /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/sub0/hw_params - stream file = (n/a) 2) USB Audio Class Digital alsa audio output interface `hw:1,0' - device name = PT100 - interface name= USB Audio - usb audio class = (n/a) - character device = /dev/snd/pcmC1D0p - encoding formats = S16_LE, S24_3LE - monitor file = /proc/asound/card1/pcm0p/sub0/hw_params - stream file = /proc/asound/card1/stream0 3) USB Audio Class Digital alsa audio output interface `hw:1,1' - device name = PT100 - interface name= USB Audio - usb audio class = (n/a) - character device = /dev/snd/pcmC1D1p - encoding formats = S16_LE - monitor file = /proc/asound/card1/pcm1p/sub0/hw_params - stream file = /proc/asound/card1/stream1 hafnpin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72096 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115518 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Squeezelite with USB DAC plays max at 48k
what is the output of alsa-capabilities for the devices which use for squeezlite output ? What data rates are shown ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115518 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] Squeezelite with USB DAC plays max at 48k
Hello.
I need help troubleshooting squeezelite on a Raspberry Pi 4 with an
Emotiva PT-100 USB DAC. It plays music up to 48k without resampling but
anything over, like 96k, gets down-sampled to 48k. Below is a breakdown
of what I've done to troubleshoot so far. I just can't seem to get it to
work right.
-
- Tried using picoreplayer and selecting the USB DAC. Plays music
but resamples over 48k
-
- Tried using Raspbian. Plays music but resamples over 48k.
-
- Tried using Ubuntu server. Plays music but resamples over 48k.
- Pulseaudio is not installed.
- Stopping squeezelite and running
Code:
for rate in 44100 48000 88200 96000; do speaker-test --rate $rate
--period 1 --nloop 4; done
- The DAC shows correct bit rates. So that tells me the DAC
has no issue playing sound with those bit rates.
- Here are my options for playback
Code:
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ squeezelite -l
Output devices:
null - Discard all samples (playback) or generate
zero samples (capture)
sysdefault - Default Audio Device
default
hw:CARD=Headphones,DEV=0 - bcm2835 Headphones, bcm2835 Headphones -
Direct hardware device without any conversions
plughw:CARD=Headphones,DEV=0 - bcm2835 Headphones, bcm2835 Headphones -
Hardware device with all software conversions
sysdefault:CARD=Headphones - bcm2835 Headphones, bcm2835 Headphones -
Default Audio Device
dmix:CARD=Headphones,DEV=0 - bcm2835 Headphones, bcm2835 Headphones -
Direct sample mixing device
hw:CARD=PT100,DEV=0- Emotiva PT-100, USB Audio - Direct
hardware device without any conversions
hw:CARD=PT100,DEV=1- Emotiva PT-100, USB Audio #1 - Direct
hardware device without any conversions
plughw:CARD=PT100,DEV=0- Emotiva PT-100, USB Audio - Hardware
device with all software conversions
plughw:CARD=PT100,DEV=1- Emotiva PT-100, USB Audio #1 - Hardware
device with all software conversions
sysdefault:CARD=PT100 - Emotiva PT-100, USB Audio - Default Audio
Device
front:CARD=PT100,DEV=0 - Emotiva PT-100, USB Audio - Front output /
input
surround21:CARD=PT100,DEV=0- Emotiva PT-100, USB Audio - 2.1 Surround
output to Front and Subwoofer speakers
surround40:CARD=PT100,DEV=0- Emotiva PT-100, USB Audio - 4.0 Surround
output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=PT100,DEV=0- Emotiva PT-100, USB Audio - 4.1 Surround
output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=PT100,DEV=0- Emotiva PT-100, USB Audio - 5.0 Surround
output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=PT100,DEV=0- Emotiva PT-100, USB Audio - 5.1 Surround
output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=PT100,DEV=0- Emotiva PT-100, USB Audio - 7.1 Surround
output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
iec958:CARD=PT100,DEV=0- Emotiva PT-100, USB Audio - IEC958
(S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
iec958:CARD=PT100,DEV=1- Emotiva PT-100, USB Audio #1 - IEC958
(S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
dmix:CARD=PT100,DEV=0 - Emotiva PT-100, USB Audio - Direct sample
mixing device
dmix:CARD=PT100,DEV=1 - Emotiva PT-100, USB Audio #1 - Direct
sample mixing device
dsnoop:CARD=PT100,DEV=0- Emotiva PT-100, USB Audio - Direct sample
snooping device
- Here is my /etc/default/squeezelite configuration file
Code:
# Defaults for squeezelite initscript
# sourced by /etc/init.d/squeezelite
# installed at /etc/default/squeezelite by the maintainer scripts
# The name for the squeezelite player:
SL_NAME="$(hostname -s)"
# ALSA output device:
SL_SOUNDCARD="hw:CARD=PT100,DEV=1"
# Squeezebox server (Logitech Media Server):
# Uncomment the next line if you want to point squeezelite at the IP
address of
# your squeezebox server. This is usually unnecessary as the server is
# automatically discovered.
#SB_SERVER_IP="192.168.x.y"
# Additional options to pass to squeezelite:
# Please do not include -z to make squeezelite daemonise itself.
SB_EXTRA_ARGS="-a 180"
- Here is my /etc/asound.conf configuration file. I was
looking into this possibly being an issue with DMIX but this didn't
help.
Code:
pcm.default_device {
type hw
card "PT100"
device 0
}
pcm.!default {
type plug
slave {
pcm "default_device"
}
}
ctl.!default {
type hw
card "PT100"
}
- I tried changing two properties in
/usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf
Code:
defaults.ctl.card 0
defaults.pcm.card 0
to
Code:
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Tx - the only thing that had changed was a new drive in the server which meant the remote image backup share name in my net mounts was invalid. The music share didn't change. The new drive went in with no LMS activity ongoing. Before I'd spotted that share name issue I then added "vers=2.0" to the music library mount option and it mounted! (I tried Net Mount button before but it wouldn't even try as nothing had changed). Then I corrected the share name for the remote image backup and that mounted Ok, so then I removed the vers=2.0 from the music library mount and everything mounts again, so the dialect error in dmsg could have been a red herring. H. It seems like net mount detects 'something' has changed and then it breaks all the mounts for some reason. I forget what the retry mechanism is on L*nux SMB, with Windows it just retries, like a soft vs hard mount. mr-b's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10044 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114828 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
